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Pat Hanlon fires back at Francesa

Bold Ruler : Mod : 8/6/2019 8:30 pm
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Refresher: ďThe Giants now act like losers, they have no plan like losers, and the people running the team, in my estimation, are losers. I donít believe a word Gettleman says. Not a word. He lied to everyone about what he was doing. ... the Giants are an utter embarrassment."
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@MikeFrancesa
For the first time in my WFAN career I will not be doing a training camp program from Giants camp. Was invited but told there would be no access to GM. Dave Gettleman should have enough confidence and conviction to explain his decisions. If he is hiding, Iíll pass.
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If I had to guess  
ghost718 : 8/7/2019 10:07 am : link
Francesa knows the Giants are probably pissed,so he comes up with this Me vs The GM as an excuse not to show up.Also feeds the ego, similar to Me Vs Shockey and countless other examples.
Look - Francesa's an asshole and there's no denying it  
jcn56 : 8/7/2019 10:09 am : link
And this is his game - to stir shit up and get ratings.

He's a frikkin loon if his complaint is that the Giants weren't up front with him about their draft plans before the draft. There isn't a reasonable person in the world, Giants fan or not, that would expect them to be honest with Francesa about their intentions before the draft took place.

All that said - if you don't like your treatment, you either go there and get in his face about it, or you take an interview and duck any stupid questions and give him basic, bland answers. Doing this just kicks up the circus and makes them look weak.
RE: And for all DG  
Dr. D : 8/7/2019 10:10 am : link
In comment 14520740 Ned In Atlanta said:
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Said about BPA after the Saquon pick whatever you think about Jones no one on planet earth thought he was actually BPa at 6

Current college BPA does not apply when you're drafting future NFL franchise QB.

Yes, they passed on Darnold for Saquon, but you have to factor in that Saquon is viewed as a once in generation future gold jacket wearer, Eli still had 2 years on contract (and maybe they just weren't that in love with Darnold).

None of this means DG is clueless, has no plan, is a bad guy, etc.
Jcn  
UConn4523 : 8/7/2019 10:12 am : link
it falls in the area of ďnot everyone will be pleasedĒ. I see no point in stroking Mikes ego after he threw a temper tantrum and trashed the organization while calling DG a liar. You see that as a weakness, I see that as DG probably having a lot better things to do.

He wonít win if he goes on with Mike. We all know it. Heís better off moving on, IMO.
RE: Jcn  
jcn56 : 8/7/2019 10:16 am : link
In comment 14521152 UConn4523 said:
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it falls in the area of ďnot everyone will be pleasedĒ. I see no point in stroking Mikes ego after he threw a temper tantrum and trashed the organization while calling DG a liar. You see that as a weakness, I see that as DG probably having a lot better things to do.

He wonít win if he goes on with Mike. We all know it. Heís better off moving on, IMO.


The GM gets paid to do these interviews - he's got better things to do, but this is part of his job description, it's not like he's going out fishing.

And maybe he won't "win" - but by ducking it and sending Hanlon out to do his talking, he's opening the door to more negative press and reaction. He wants fearless adults if I recall correctly - is avoiding this interview the message he wants to send? Would a fearless adult be afraid to spend a few minutes on the radio with Francesa?

Personally, if he called me a liar I'd want a piece of him on the air, but that wouldn't help either.
Just something we wonít agree on  
UConn4523 : 8/7/2019 10:17 am : link
itís all good
WTF is wrong with a GM trying to balance  
Dr. D : 8/7/2019 10:18 am : link
winning now and at the same time drafting the future franchise QB to replace the 38 yr old QB who's on the last year of his contract?

I don't blame DG or Eli for not wanting to waste their time talking to that loudmouth asshole.

You guys are laying this personally at the feet of Gettleman...  
Chris684 : 8/7/2019 10:21 am : link
It seems to me the Giants as an organization have dis-invited Francesa from their training camp.

Maybe it's Hanlon's decision?

Maybe it come directly from Mara?

The Giants are a business at the end of the day. Francesa really caused a lot of headaches for them in April by seemingly go public with stuff that either wasn't true, or the Giants wouldn't have wanted public even if it was.
RE: The haughtiness...  
Bill L : 8/7/2019 10:22 am : link
In comment 14521128 bw in dc said:
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and phoniness of Jints Central.

One of the supposed reasons why Jones was drafted was because the great decision makers at Jints Central were confident he could manage and deal with the big, bad, mean NY press. Jones could follow in Eli's footsteps and be a real grown up.

But now these sages don't want to deal with the big, bad, mean NY press because one of them hurt their feelings by criticizing their delicate GM.

How absolutely perfect...


C'mon. If someone called you a fucking asshole, whether on a radio show or even in private conversation, you're not going to go out of your way to do the guy a favor. I don't believe that for a second.
I like Gettleman  
Harvest Blend : 8/7/2019 10:23 am : link
even more now. Francesa's always been a douche.
I just think there is way too much of this going on in society  
Stu11 : 8/7/2019 10:25 am : link
not just sports, where public figures are picking and choosing media based on who's nice to them. You think this is the first time a media figure has been tough on a person? Anyone read a Dick Young/ Jimmy Breslin column over decades? I though one of the best radio spots I ever heard was the night Steinbrenner's suspension ended and he went on WFAN at midnight with Suzyn Waldman. Now of course she's a fangirl, but he took calls for over an hour, and not just screened fanboy ones. True fans really giving it to him. He took it and didn't get defensive. You know what I really respected him for that. Like I said both parties are at fault here. Frances is a big fucking baby who thinks its 25 years ago and that anyone give a shit about him, but DG should be doing the show to explain what the plan is. Public figures make themselves more irrelevant when they avoid the heat.
RE: You guys are laying this personally at the feet of Gettleman...  
jcn56 : 8/7/2019 10:25 am : link
In comment 14521160 Chris684 said:
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It seems to me the Giants as an organization have dis-invited Francesa from their training camp.

Maybe it's Hanlon's decision?

Maybe it come directly from Mara?

The Giants are a business at the end of the day. Francesa really caused a lot of headaches for them in April by seemingly go public with stuff that either wasn't true, or the Giants wouldn't have wanted public even if it was.


Maybe - but if that's the case the cowboy straight shooter Gettleman you guys seem to think exists is weak enough to be sidelined by the Giants organization and unable to take a media interview.

I highly doubt that's the case. At least I hope it's not the case, because if it is the Giants are more dysfunctional than I thought.
RE: You guys are laying this personally at the feet of Gettleman...  
Bill L : 8/7/2019 10:26 am : link
In comment 14521160 Chris684 said:
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It seems to me the Giants as an organization have dis-invited Francesa from their training camp.

Maybe it's Hanlon's decision?

Maybe it come directly from Mara?

The Giants are a business at the end of the day. Francesa really caused a lot of headaches for them in April by seemingly go public with stuff that either wasn't true, or the Giants wouldn't have wanted public even if it was.


I didn't see them dis-inviting him. They said that he was welcome to come to camp and speak with anyone...Shurmer, players, etc...except Gettleman. It sounds like Mike dis-invited himself
RE: RE: The haughtiness...  
jcn56 : 8/7/2019 10:27 am : link
In comment 14521163 Bill L said:
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In comment 14521128 bw in dc said:


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and phoniness of Jints Central.

One of the supposed reasons why Jones was drafted was because the great decision makers at Jints Central were confident he could manage and deal with the big, bad, mean NY press. Jones could follow in Eli's footsteps and be a real grown up.

But now these sages don't want to deal with the big, bad, mean NY press because one of them hurt their feelings by criticizing their delicate GM.

How absolutely perfect...



C'mon. If someone called you a fucking asshole, whether on a radio show or even in private conversation, you're not going to go out of your way to do the guy a favor. I don't believe that for a second.


Taking an interview request isn't a "favor" for the GM of a professional football team.

I'm telling you - you guys are sounding more and more like James Dolan. Let that one sink in a bit.
RE: Hanlon said this in response Mike saying he wont be at camp:  
santacruzom : 8/7/2019 10:31 am : link
In comment 14520708 Dave in Hoboken said:
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I'm far from a Francesa fan, but seems kinda weak that the GM won't go on simply because a radio host disagrees with some of his decisions


Yeah, seems like something that Snyder would be excoriated for.
RE: Mike feels lied to because he  
santacruzom : 8/7/2019 10:34 am : link
In comment 14520739 UConn4523 said:
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wasnít told we were taking Jones.


THAT'S why he feels lied to? Holy shit. I never listen to him, so my assumption was that he was referring to the whole "We didn't sign OBJ to trade hin" thing.
Francesa calling someone a liar?  
Gene : 8/7/2019 10:35 am : link
Talk about somebody with a total lack of self awareness! oooof.

It's mind numbing that people still listen to that fraud.
Bad look for the Giants and thin-skinned DG  
Oscar : 8/7/2019 10:40 am : link
You have a big boy job in the biggest market in the country, face the heat.
Francesa does deserve better  
twostepgiants : 8/7/2019 10:41 am : link
He is the biggest and most famous sports voice in NY with a prime spot on their ďflagship partnerĒ radio station and has for the better part of 30 years.

The NY Giants have used and benefitted from this platform for management, coaches and players alike for the better part of 30 years.

he has given his fair share of criticism (and praise) but for the better part of 30 years no one would say that Mike Francesa has been an enemy of the Giants. He is not Frank Isola to the Knicks.

And I donít think giving an interview to Francesa is ďbowing down at the altarĒ or ďkissing the ringĒ etc.

Itís probabky whatís been happening for 30 years.
RE: RE: Mike feels lied to because he  
jcn56 : 8/7/2019 10:44 am : link
In comment 14521178 santacruzom said:
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In comment 14520739 UConn4523 said:


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wasnít told we were taking Jones.



THAT'S why he feels lied to? Holy shit. I never listen to him, so my assumption was that he was referring to the whole "We didn't sign OBJ to trade hin" thing.


I don't think he ever spelled it out but I'm pretty sure it was about the draft. And not so much selecting Jones, but the selection of a QB in general.

And obviously, Francesa is off his rocker. Not sure whether it's because he wants the ratings (which would make it pure genius, the guy makes a lot more money than I do), or if he's just nuts. But either way, he's got a platform and he's going to use it. And the Giants would be much better off trying to offset that than play right into his hands, which is what this is doing.
fact is our GM acts like a tough guy  
Shirk130 : 8/7/2019 10:55 am : link
and then hides from tough questions.
RE: So the Giants are freezing Francessa out  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/7/2019 10:57 am : link
In comment 14521090 Metnut said:
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because he said some mean things? Do we really want to take the first step toward running things like the Knicks?

Francessa is a blowhard but he has the biggest radio show in NY. DG can suck it up and do a 10 minute interview spot.


The only guy who isnít talking to him is DG. Heís not lost access to anyone else. Fuck this clown. The comments he made on Ballentine would have gotten a lot of guys tossed off the air.
Gettleman  
Les in TO : 8/7/2019 10:59 am : link
Is not going to grant special media access to someone who has treated him with such disrespect. Words have consequences
Francesa  
DCOrange : 8/7/2019 11:00 am : link
It is obvious Mike is not the king at WFAN anymore when all the other hosts take shots at him anytime they want to without fear of management. Boomer's co-host mocked Francesa when they were at Giant's camp. Sent his regards to DG and laughed at how much Mike would be missed. Mike can say it does not bother him but when almost everyone at your company with a voice mocks you and your management does nothing it has to get to him.
Francesca likely  
Les in TO : 8/7/2019 11:05 am : link
Is not as powerful as he was in the past. People have satellite radio, podcasts and audiobooks as substitutes for traditional radio. More people telecommute or ride their bikes into work. I rarely listen to traditional radio anymore.
RE: Francesa  
Gatorade Dunk : 8/7/2019 11:07 am : link
In comment 14521200 DCOrange said:
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It is obvious Mike is not the king at WFAN anymore when all the other hosts take shots at him anytime they want to without fear of management. Boomer's co-host mocked Francesa when they were at Giant's camp. Sent his regards to DG and laughed at how much Mike would be missed. Mike can say it does not bother him but when almost everyone at your company with a voice mocks you and your management does nothing it has to get to him.

Boo Effing Hoo. They all had to participate in his farewell tour and he didn't even stay retired for 6 months. Add to that, the only host on the station who does less preparation than Francesa is probably Benigno, who seems like he's hearing everything for the first time live on the air.

Let him go pimp his app to people who are dumb enough to plunk down $9 a month for it and clear the timeslot for a host who actually knows what he's talking about anymore.
So Reese let everyone and their mother know  
cjac : 8/7/2019 11:07 am : link
he wanted to take Leonard Floyd 3 years ago

He was crushed for letting everyone know about it and the Bears leap frogged us to take him.

Now we have a GM who puts up smoke screens and did not let anyone know what his intensions were, and some Ahole Media Diva is ripping him apart for that.

My feelings about this are.... fuck Mike F
RE: you can't lie about a future event  
Gatorade Dunk : 8/7/2019 11:09 am : link
In comment 14521061 GiantNatty said:
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you can only lie about facts. if someone says "are you going to trade Beckham," you respond "no," and then you trade him, it doesn't mean you lied - it means you changed your mind.

That's not entirely true. If, just using your example, you know you're going to trade Beckham and still say "no," then you're lying.

If you're planning a surprise party for someone and they ask you if you're going to throw them a party, are you lying when you say no? Or did you just change your mind when you yell "surprise!"?
RE: So Reese let everyone and their mother know  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/7/2019 11:14 am : link
In comment 14521206 cjac said:
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he wanted to take Leonard Floyd 3 years ago

He was crushed for letting everyone know about it and the Bears leap frogged us to take him.

Now we have a GM who puts up smoke screens and did not let anyone know what his intensions were, and some Ahole Media Diva is ripping him apart for that.

My feelings about this are.... fuck Mike F


Nobody's allowed to say he "puts up smokescreens" after the Barkley draft.
RE: bw  
bw in dc : 8/7/2019 11:16 am : link
In comment 14521134 UConn4523 said:
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that isnít whatís happening here.

I challenge anyone to listen to the audio of mike his first day on air after the draft and tell me thatís someone worth speaking to. Mike got bad info and now he hates Gettleman, thatís childish and not worth Gettelmans time.

Also, Eli isnít doing Mikes show either because heís tired of being asked about his last year, when will he be benched, etc. is he in the wrong too?


Let me counter this with this:

I am one of Eli's biggest critics. But let me tell you something about him that I admire. A few years ago, Bayless and Sharpe, for their FSI show, was on location at the SB. Bayless has been a relentless critic of Eli. He's called Eli's pass to Tyree the luckiest play in history, Eli's overrated, he's a turnover machine, etc.

The last place you would think Eli would show up is on Bayless' show. But low and behold, I had the show on in my office and Eli showed up. Granted, he was hawking a product, but he was there nonetheless. And my guess is Eli could have told the sponsor he didn't want to do the show.

Instead, he sat right across from Bayless, listened to Bayless' act, answered all of the questions, and thanked them both for the invite. It was a real class act.

So if Eli can deal with that, and he's far more important in NY sports history that DG, than DG should act like an adult and do Francessa's show...regardless of Mike's non-flattering rants...

I listened to Mike's rant on the radio live  
Rjanyg : 8/7/2019 11:21 am : link
He completely freaked out about how the Giants should have cut Manning if they were drafting a QB in the first round.

I really don't get this stance, like every team that invests a 1st round pick in a QB needs to start him right away. That is not a given and Mike acted like a know it all the whole rant.

Gettlemen actually told Mike they may take a QB. Not many thought it would be Jones especially at 6. I was pissed we passed on Josh Allen because he is the guy I wanted NYG to select at far back as last October. If anything I thought at pick 17 Jones would be ok, as long as they Got a front 7 pass rusher.

Bottom line, DG had a conviction on a QB, a year after everybody bitched and moaned about taking Barkley over Darnold. People are still bitching about that.

Barkley was the best player in the last 3 drafts. He is a Giant. Daniel Jones will succeed Eli Manning at some point.

Francesa needs to either accept this or shut the f up.
Mike would just talk over top of them like he does  
Jan in DC : 8/7/2019 11:23 am : link
everyone else anyways.
RE: I like Gettleman  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/7/2019 11:33 am : link
In comment 14521166 Harvest Blend said:
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even more now. Francesa's always been a douche.

He's pissing off all the right people. OBJ, Collins, Norman, Steve Smith, Carolina GM Olsen fanboy.
RE: fact is our GM acts like a tough guy  
Bill L : 8/7/2019 11:38 am : link
In comment 14521191 Shirk130 said:
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and then hides from tough questions.

Why is he obligated to specifically speak to Francesa? Is he required to accept any and every interview request? If I asked to interview him this afternoon, would he be obligated to accept, lest his manhood be questioned?

I've seen interviews with DG recently. Defenderdawg had one linked yesterday, in fact. He had a press conference at least once during this training camp. Eric had the transcript up. That doesn't sound like he was hiding to me. And, I don't recall any questions that he was afraid to answer.
RE: RE: bw  
Les in TO : 8/7/2019 11:38 am : link
In comment 14521228 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14521134 UConn4523 said:


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that isnít whatís happening here.

I challenge anyone to listen to the audio of mike his first day on air after the draft and tell me thatís someone worth speaking to. Mike got bad info and now he hates Gettleman, thatís childish and not worth Gettelmans time.

Also, Eli isnít doing Mikes show either because heís tired of being asked about his last year, when will he be benched, etc. is he in the wrong too?



Let me counter this with this:

I am one of Eli's biggest critics. But let me tell you something about him that I admire. A few years ago, Bayless and Sharpe, for their FSI show, was on location at the SB. Bayless has been a relentless critic of Eli. He's called Eli's pass to Tyree the luckiest play in history, Eli's overrated, he's a turnover machine, etc.

The last place you would think Eli would show up is on Bayless' show. But low and behold, I had the show on in my office and Eli showed up. Granted, he was hawking a product, but he was there nonetheless. And my guess is Eli could have told the sponsor he didn't want to do the show.

Instead, he sat right across from Bayless, listened to Bayless' act, answered all of the questions, and thanked them both for the invite. It was a real class act.

So if Eli can deal with that, and he's far more important in NY sports history that DG, than DG should act like an adult and do Francessa's show...regardless of Mike's non-flattering rants...
the difference is Eli likely had a contractual obligation to fulfill from his sponsor to go on that program. If DG doesnít have to go on the show, why should he give time and attention to someone who calls him a loser, an embarrassment and a liar?
RE: RE: So Reese let everyone and their mother know  
Bill L : 8/7/2019 11:42 am : link
In comment 14521221 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14521206 cjac said:


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he wanted to take Leonard Floyd 3 years ago

He was crushed for letting everyone know about it and the Bears leap frogged us to take him.

Now we have a GM who puts up smoke screens and did not let anyone know what his intensions were, and some Ahole Media Diva is ripping him apart for that.

My feelings about this are.... fuck Mike F



Nobody's allowed to say he "puts up smokescreens" after the Barkley draft.


Even you would have to admit, that there's more chances of people jumping in front of you at #6 than there is at #2. Aren't there?
RE: RE: bw  
Bill L : 8/7/2019 11:44 am : link
In comment 14521228 bw in dc said:
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...regardless of Mike's non-flattering rants...


I would say that your spite has made you over-prone to euphemism in this case.
RE: The haughtiness...  
jhibb : 8/7/2019 12:01 pm : link
In comment 14521128 bw in dc said:
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and phoniness of Jints Central.

One of the supposed reasons why Jones was drafted was because the great decision makers at Jints Central were confident he could manage and deal with the big, bad, mean NY press. Jones could follow in Eli's footsteps and be a real grown up.

But now these sages don't want to deal with the big, bad, mean NY press because one of them hurt their feelings by criticizing their delicate GM.

How absolutely perfect...


Part of the game of managing and dealing with the press is knowing when you should simply ignore one member of it who is acting unprofessionally. If I were a GM or other exec and had a player who was the subject of a rant by a media member - calling him a loser and saying that he didn't believe a word he said - I would definitely try not to have that player grant an interview to that media member.

I don't care if bwcentral would call that delicate or immature. I would simply call it being smart.
One has to ask, if someone said those things about me, would I talk to  
Ira : 8/7/2019 12:04 pm : link
him. Most of us would say no.
RE: RE: RE: bw  
jhibb : 8/7/2019 12:07 pm : link
In comment 14521262 Les in TO said:
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the difference is Eli likely had a contractual obligation to fulfill from his sponsor to go on that program. If DG doesnít have to go on the show, why should he give time and attention to someone who calls him a loser, an embarrassment and a liar?


Agreed. And there's also a big difference between saying someone is "lucky and overrated" and saying someone is "a loser, an embarrassment and a liar."
RE: RE: RE: bw  
bw in dc : 8/7/2019 12:13 pm : link
In comment 14521262 Les in TO said:
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In comment 14521228 bw in dc said:




Let me counter this with this:

I am one of Eli's biggest critics. But let me tell you something about him that I admire. A few years ago, Bayless and Sharpe, for their FSI show, was on location at the SB. Bayless has been a relentless critic of Eli. He's called Eli's pass to Tyree the luckiest play in history, Eli's overrated, he's a turnover machine, etc.

The last place you would think Eli would show up is on Bayless' show. But low and behold, I had the show on in my office and Eli showed up. Granted, he was hawking a product, but he was there nonetheless. And my guess is Eli could have told the sponsor he didn't want to do the show.

Instead, he sat right across from Bayless, listened to Bayless' act, answered all of the questions, and thanked them both for the invite. It was a real class act.

So if Eli can deal with that, and he's far more important in NY sports history that DG, than DG should act like an adult and do Francessa's show...regardless of Mike's non-flattering rants...


the difference is Eli likely had a contractual obligation to fulfill from his sponsor to go on that program. If DG doesnít have to go on the show, why should he give time and attention to someone who calls him a loser, an embarrassment and a liar?


I am going the other way. If Eli didn't want to do a specific show, he and Condon have enough clout to bargain the conditions of the sale. My guess is the sponsor gave Eli/Condon the shows they were targeting, and Eli had final say. No expert, but I think that's how those situations likely work...

Like it or not, Mike is an icon in NYC. I think DG appearing on the show would be a good way to confront Mike's claims and be the bigger guy (figuratively of course ;) ).

Look at Brady and WEEI. The host of the morning show called Brady's daughter a piss ant. When you attack family, that's a different level, right? Brady still showed up, and WEEI suspended the host. But Brady came out publicly and stated that the host shouldn't be fired over one mistake. And that he supported the guy coming back on the air. Not entirely apples to apples, but you get my drift...
RE: fact is our GM acts like a tough guy  
UConn4523 : 8/7/2019 12:14 pm : link
In comment 14521191 Shirk130 said:
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and then hides from tough questions.


He just answered the questions, you can see for yourself in the SI article posted in another active thread.

Since when does not bowing down to Francesa mean he doesnít answer questions? Francesa would be asking him the same questions heís already answered, only heíd make it personal. Not sure why some of you canít see the difference.

Itís fine if you think itís a bad look, canít argue how it makes you feel. But some of the info here isnít accurate.
Whatever  
HomerJones45 : 8/7/2019 12:18 pm : link
this is such a sideshow. Gettlemen got rid of all the vets and has his guys and his coach. If he wins, then he deserves the accolades, and if he doesn't he and his coach should be out on the street and his relationship with GM Jr won't save him.
Francessa's comments were rude and personnel. Even DG's worst  
Ira : 8/7/2019 12:25 pm : link
critics on this thread wouldn't give anyone the time of day who insulted him in that way, nor should they.
RE: I just think there is way too much of this going on in society  
regulator : 8/7/2019 12:39 pm : link
In comment 14521167 Stu11 said:
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not just sports, where public figures are picking and choosing media based on who's nice to them. You think this is the first time a media figure has been tough on a person? Anyone read a Dick Young/ Jimmy Breslin column over decades? I though one of the best radio spots I ever heard was the night Steinbrenner's suspension ended and he went on WFAN at midnight with Suzyn Waldman. Now of course she's a fangirl, but he took calls for over an hour, and not just screened fanboy ones. True fans really giving it to him. He took it and didn't get defensive. You know what I really respected him for that. Like I said both parties are at fault here. Frances is a big fucking baby who thinks its 25 years ago and that anyone give a shit about him, but DG should be doing the show to explain what the plan is. Public figures make themselves more irrelevant when they avoid the heat.


There's certainly less civility than ever in journalism, so I don't blame necessarily blame people (politicians or otherwise) for declining interviews with certain people from whom an attack is all but assured. Some of it is driven by our media consumption: journalists get a lot more mileage out of a widely-shared, incendiary tweet or soundbite than they do a thoughtful, reasoned discussion.
So, that becomes the primary objective of such an interview. It's why we are just as unlikely to see Donald Trump sit down for an interview with a Rachel Maddow as we are AOC to meet with someone like Tucker Carlson. The interview undoubtedly draws a lot of attention, and the subject walks into the inevitable buzzsaw unless a combative tone is struck from the jump, and so it goes.

Bottom line, Mike would be loaded for bear in an interview with Gettleman, and their styles don't really mix. It just wouldn't be a good look for the Giants.
RE: RE: So Reese let everyone and their mother know  
cjac : 8/7/2019 12:46 pm : link
In comment 14521221 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14521206 cjac said:


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he wanted to take Leonard Floyd 3 years ago

He was crushed for letting everyone know about it and the Bears leap frogged us to take him.

Now we have a GM who puts up smoke screens and did not let anyone know what his intensions were, and some Ahole Media Diva is ripping him apart for that.

My feelings about this are.... fuck Mike F



Nobody's allowed to say he "puts up smokescreens" after the Barkley draft.


But he (and everyone else) knew the Browns were going to take Mayfield, thats a completely different situation
Weak  
Thegratefulhead : 8/7/2019 12:58 pm : link
I hate MF, piece of garbage. I would expect someone as strong as DG to be able handle MF. I find this cowardly. I would prefer he go on with MF as a hostile interview and challenge MF for his bullshit. I personally want to be able address the people that criticize me.
RE: RE: So Reese let everyone and their mother know  
Dr. D : 8/7/2019 1:09 pm : link
In comment 14521221 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14521206 cjac said:


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he wanted to take Leonard Floyd 3 years ago

He was crushed for letting everyone know about it and the Bears leap frogged us to take him.

Now we have a GM who puts up smoke screens and did not let anyone know what his intensions were, and some Ahole Media Diva is ripping him apart for that.

My feelings about this are.... fuck Mike F



Nobody's allowed to say he "puts up smokescreens" after the Barkley draft.

You do understand that the Giants had the #2 pick in '18, right? Meaning that smokescreens weren't necessary (knowing that the only team picking in front of them was taking a QB)?
It may not have been "necessary", but it also isn't cause  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/7/2019 1:13 pm : link
for the entire league to know who they were picking. Why would having that knowledge out there ever be okay, is the point.
I don't think DG is the only GM  
Dr. D : 8/7/2019 1:16 pm : link
who didn't think it was necessary to smokescreen when they were picking #1 or 2 (when #1 is certain).

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