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How about that OL depth, oof!

ij_reilly : 8/7/2019 10:40 am
When I reviewed the depth chart, I was struck by the OL depth. Questionable, at best. I understand that OL talent is a league-wide issue, but I sure hope we see some major upgrades to the OL depth prior to the season opener.

The current OL depth is far from inspiring.

Yes, the starting 5 has been massively upgraded, I understand (although I'm not thrilled about the C position). But someone is going to get injured and miss games. Who's going to step in and start?

I'm looking for the Gettleman to pick up a few OL castoffs from other teams, prior to the season opener.

Last year there was huge turnover immediately following the final cutdown. Players who seemed to have made the Giants were discarded while Gettleman pulled in a variety of castoffs.

I'm looking for similar activity this year, in regards to the OL.
I don't think the depth is as bad as you make it sound  
Jay on the Island : 8/7/2019 11:06 am : link
The Giants will have Chad Wheeler as their swing tackle. Wheeler has experience starting at both tackle spots and he added size this offseason. Pulley also has starting experience. After that it's a battle between Asafo-Adjei, Mihalik, Adams, O'Hagan, Brown, Gates, and Slade for the final two spots.

Just take a look around the league. Bobby Hart, John Jerry, and Ereck Flowers might be starting for their teams week one. That just shows the lack of offensive line talent around the NFL.
^^^^  
Heisenberg : 8/7/2019 11:11 am : link
Almost every team has an OL depth problem, unless you're an OL factory like the Pats.
You could say that about our sb champ teams too  
mattlawson : 8/7/2019 11:11 am : link
The fact is this line is better than any we’ve fielded in recent memory
They just recently got enough pieces to maybe have an average  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/7/2019 11:13 am : link
NFL starting offensive line.

Actually building depth you feel good about would take another offseason or two.
As long as the guards and tackles  
jeff57 : 8/7/2019 11:13 am : link
stay healthy, it won't be a problem.
Ereck Flowers, Bobby Hart, and John Jerry are still in the league.  
Klaatu : 8/7/2019 11:18 am : link
That's all you need to know about the state of offensive line play in today's NFL.

As for the Giants and OL depth, yeah, it's bad, but it's probably about average for the league, maybe a bit below. Just have to hope that the starters stay relatively healthy. I don't see them signing any more O-Linemen this year, because they'd probably be looking for someone who'd take the vet minimum, and how much of an upgrade would a player like that be? Not much, I'd imagine.

They've got a handful of young guys who seem to be worth developing. They may not all become starters, but if one or two can become reliable backups/spot-starters, the Giants will be ahead of the game.
On the bright side  
Joey in VA : 8/7/2019 11:21 am : link
Two guys who started a lot of games last year are now depth in Wheeler and Pulley. Guys like Nick Gates, Paul Adams, George Afsoaloaod-aldkfjasdfasod, and Evan Brown need to prove they can play in this league or it's the waiver wire for our remaining OL depth.
Glasss 1/2 empty  
DavidinBMNY : 8/7/2019 11:22 am : link
Our "depth" last year was much worse. We started at least 2 players to start the year who just aren't on our team and barely in the league.

There really is one gaping hole on the OL - Swing Tackle. And you have to consider the overall OL play in the league. We have Wheeler, at least the team knows what they have.

Right now if you want to complain about depth, with Tate's almost certain suspension complain about WR. Maybe someone will break out from the group but you can argue there is no one inspiring there based on any past NFL history. You can make the same comment in the LB direction to an extent.
It feels like Evan Brown has been around for a couple of seasons  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/7/2019 11:22 am : link
and nobody really knows if he can play or not. It's been 2 years, yes?
RE: It feels like Evan Brown has been around for a couple of seasons  
Klaatu : 8/7/2019 11:27 am : link
In comment 14521241 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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and nobody really knows if he can play or not. It's been 2 years, yes?


This is his second year. They've played him exclusively at Guard this offseason.
RE: ^^^^  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/7/2019 11:35 am : link
In comment 14521213 Heisenberg said:
Quote:
Almost every team has an OL depth problem, unless you're an OL factory like the Pats.

Cleveland has been a sort of oline factory, but with absolutely nothing to show for it.
I thought Brown  
Lines of Scrimmage : 8/7/2019 11:35 am : link
would be a candidate to start at Center. I was way off. I think him being listed at Guard means he will have to show he can be quality depth at Guard or face being cut.

The Giants seem to like their young depth but it would be good to see it translate to the field this pre-season.
A dearth of talent around the NFL  
JonC : 8/7/2019 11:40 am : link
Decent depth players wind up signing as starters elsewhere. The good news is they're confident in Pulley, and both Gates and Wheeler are apparently demonstrating growth.
Back-up Offensive Linemen:  
Pep22 : 8/7/2019 11:45 am : link



63 Chad Wheeler OT 6-7 312 - probably average for an NFL swing tackle

68 Brian Mihalik OT 6-9 315 - the kind of guy that needs an injury to make any roster

78 George Asafo-Adjei OT 6-5 315 - wait and see

79 Paul Adams OT 6-5 317 - experienced from 4 years starting at Mizzou, but wait and see

67 Evan Brown OG 6-2 302 - regarded as athletic and strong, started 4 years at SMU, mostly at OC

65 Nick Gates OG 6-5 307 - priority UDFA last year, probably could be a reserve OT in a pinch

62 Chad Slade OG 6-5 315 - no idea

66 Malcom Bunche OG 6-5 320 - no idea

77 Spencer Pulley OC 6-4 308 - journeyman interior OL (though I think he isn't good, I will admit that he looks a lot stronger this year

60 James O’Hagan OC 6-1 300 - I like the write-ups on this guy. I wonder if he has a chance to make the PS and elevate from there in time
Keep an eye on Nick Gates  
Jay on the Island : 8/7/2019 11:50 am : link
he was one of the more exciting UDFA pickups last year and he has been playing well in camp thus far. He was an OT in college but he is making the transition to guard. He missed all of last season with an injury but hopefully the Giants have something here even if it's just a solid backup inside.
Remember the depth must...  
Racer : 8/7/2019 12:06 pm : link
..be a combination of veterans who don't need a ton of reps to be game ready and young guys who are at some stage of development; some projects make the 53 because the guys ahead of them are more solid.

The more Sirius 'training camp tour's' I listen to, the more I think there will be opportunities after the cuts. Many teams seem to have developmental guys doing well in addition to veteran depth, if you can read between the lines and find facts in the depths of flowery camp-speak.
You Have to Walk  
Samiam : 8/7/2019 12:34 pm : link
Before you can run. The starting lineup is so much better than last years. Why complain?
Complaining about our OL depth is weird  
Deejboy : 8/8/2019 12:02 am : link
when you consider every team in the NFL has the same problem. The fact that Ereck Flowers might be starting should tell you about the OL quality in the league.
You could thank Jerry Reice  
NephilimGiants : 8/8/2019 5:54 am : link
OL should but built through drafts, not in one off season
The depth is bad  
ron mexico : 8/8/2019 7:55 am : link
It is also a pretty old group

Need to resume drafting OL next year.
This thread is comical  
5BowlsSoon : 8/8/2019 8:25 am : link
Why don’t you do an analysis of all teams bench players on the OL and come back and talk to us about OL depth ......

Giant fans should be better than this! SMH
If oline depth is our biggest issue  
SleepyOwl : 8/8/2019 10:08 am : link
We are in a much better place
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