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Jints in Carolina : 8/7/2019 4:06 pm


BAL
Hanser Alberto (R) LF
Trey Mancini (R) RF
Anthony Santander (S) DH
Renato Nunez (R) 3B
Jonathan Villar (S) 2B
Pedro Severino (R) C
Stevie Wilkerson (S) CF
Chris Davis (L) 1B
Richie Martin (R) SS

John Means LHP
Five starters that were not supposed  
rnargi : 8/7/2019 4:08 pm : link
be contributing this much. How the hell are they doing it?
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Danny Kanell : 8/7/2019 4:11 pm : link
Oof. The injuries this season are the worst i've ever seen. Than lineup is unreal.
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Jints in Carolina : 8/7/2019 4:14 pm : link
In comment 14521599 Danny Kanell said:
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Oof. The injuries this season are the worst i've ever seen. Than lineup is unreal.


and I trust them.
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Danny Kanell : 8/7/2019 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14521604 Jints in Carolina said:
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Oof. The injuries this season are the worst i've ever seen. Than lineup is unreal.



and I trust them.


Me too, which is even crazier.
Gleybor  
Beer Man : 8/7/2019 4:17 pm : link
sent back to NY for further evaluation to see if he has a sports hernia.
RE: Gleybor  
Jints in Carolina : 8/7/2019 4:19 pm : link
In comment 14521609 Beer Man said:
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sent back to NY for further evaluation to see if he has a sports hernia.


I expect to hear the worst.
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 4:21 pm : link
That's the amazing thing... there are so many regulars missing, and yet the lineup doesn't look bad at all. There's STILL really no one you look at and say "automatic out"

Sure, Higgy and Valera aren't going to scare their pitchers much... but everyone is finding ways to contribute and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Higgy hit a HR tonight or see Valera come through with a big hit.

Mike Tauchman is must see TV right now.

Also nice to see Gio back in there. Lets hope he can avoid driving more baseballs directly into his legs.
RE: RE: Gleybor  
Beer Man : 8/7/2019 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14521612 Jints in Carolina said:
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sent back to NY for further evaluation to see if he has a sports hernia.



I expect to hear the worst.
Maybe not. They didn't find one when he was evaluated Monday. My son was in a similar situation his Senior year of football. They found no sports hernia, and he was good as new after 2-3 weeks of taking it easy.
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Beer Man : 8/7/2019 4:26 pm : link
In comment 14521613 arcarsenal said:
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That's the amazing thing... there are so many regulars missing, and yet the lineup doesn't look bad at all. There's STILL really no one you look at and say "automatic out"

Even more so when you consider how poor the starting pitching has been.
Rays've Lost  
GruningsOnTheHill : 8/7/2019 4:28 pm : link
Giles almost blew it for Toronto, but they held on for the win.
sounds like the Estrada crowd  
bigbluehoya : 8/7/2019 4:32 pm : link
will get their wish soon enough. No official roster move but Marakovits made a Thairo Estrada sighting in the clubhouse...

Gleyber probably going on IL.
Totally surprised Judge is  
section125 : 8/7/2019 4:34 pm : link
playing. He just looks tired at the plate.

Yes, I would not be surprised if Higgy hits two tonight. He has good power.

So they are playing one two men short? Tarpley was sent down and Gleyber is in NYC for check up. Anybody know who came up for Tarpley?
RE: sounds like the Estrada crowd  
section125 : 8/7/2019 4:34 pm : link
In comment 14521623 bigbluehoya said:
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will get their wish soon enough. No official roster move but Marakovits made a Thairo Estrada sighting in the clubhouse...

Gleyber probably going on IL.


Or he is the replacement for Tarpley!
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 4:46 pm : link
I'm assuming Gleyber to IL is inevitable. I would have been really surprised to see him avoid that.

Sucks, but at this point, what really matters is that we get our key guys healthy and right. We have a little time still.

I have a feeling we're not going to see Stanton again this year... I think we can overcome that, though.

Guys like Torres are much harder to replace and we need one of the 1B's back. It's tough without both... but Jersey Mike Ford will suffice for now.

Sanchez should be starting his rehab assignment today or thereabouts, so he's close. I know we make a lot of jokes about Romine > Gary, etc...but Ro has really done a great job since Gary hit the IL.

Since July 24... when Sanchez was placed on the IL, here's Romine's triple slash:

.370/.419/.926/1.345 in 27 AB's (8 starts)

Not so bad.
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 4:46 pm : link
I'm fairly certain Adams was recalled - that should be the corresponding move for Tarp
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Carson53 : 8/7/2019 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14521616 Beer Man said:
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sent back to NY for further evaluation to see if he has a sports hernia.



I expect to hear the worst.

Maybe not. They didn't find one when he was evaluated Monday. My son was in a similar situation his Senior year of football. They found no sports hernia, and he was good as new after 2-3 weeks of taking it easy.
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I don't know why they didn't give him a MRI the first time around with the tests?? It seems like logical, duh?
I am sure this time he will get one, but still...
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Carson53 : 8/7/2019 4:59 pm : link
In comment 14521635 arcarsenal said:
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I'm fairly certain Adams was recalled - that should be the corresponding move for Tarp
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Yep, that's what I read.
A few tidbits  
JPinstripes : 8/7/2019 5:00 pm : link
Adams is not a good pitcher, no idea why JP Feyereisen is not on the roster/shuttle ahead of him.

Estrada is a good ballplayer, the kid can flat out play.

No idea why Torres was hurried back into action immediately. As I've mentioned before with Didi and DJLM manning the middle infield the Yanks are fine. The issue now is taking DJLM off 1B, but it is what it is - Mike Ford step up time.

Tauchman is killing it, amazing.

Arc, I went to your twitter page, you are one good looking dude plus sporting that great hat... No worries my friend as I'm happily married to a Brazilian woman with legs above my shoulders...
RE: Totally surprised Judge is  
Deejboy : 8/7/2019 5:04 pm : link
In comment 14521624 section125 said:
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playing. He just looks tired at the plate.

He is playing through an injury cause the team needs him with so many walking wounded. They don't want to call up Frazier. Players don't get enough credit for that. Honestly I would always advise players to never play until they feel 100% cause the fans won't cut them any slack so why hurt themselves? But Judge is a different breed and will do anything to help the team even if he faces criticism despite him playing maybe at 75%.
RE: RE: Totally surprised Judge is  
JPinstripes : 8/7/2019 5:08 pm : link
In comment 14521650 Deejboy said:
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playing. He just looks tired at the plate.


He is playing through an injury cause the team needs him with so many walking wounded. They don't want to call up Frazier. Players don't get enough credit for that. Honestly I would always advise players to never play until they feel 100% cause the fans won't cut them any slack so why hurt themselves? But Judge is a different breed and will do anything to help the team even if he faces criticism despite him playing maybe at 75%.


Great point and 75% is probably being kind. Judge is definately playing through an injury.
MRI showed no sports hernia or strains for Gleyber.  
bceagle05 : 8/7/2019 5:10 pm : link
Makes it kind of a weird situation, but good news I guess.
Great news on the injury front for once this season.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/7/2019 5:13 pm : link
Never thought I'd actually get to type that sentence in 2019.
RE: RE: Totally surprised Judge is  
section125 : 8/7/2019 5:14 pm : link
In comment 14521650 Deejboy said:
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playing. He just looks tired at the plate.


He is playing through an injury cause the team needs him with so many walking wounded. They don't want to call up Frazier. Players don't get enough credit for that. Honestly I would always advise players to never play until they feel 100% cause the fans won't cut them any slack so why hurt themselves? But Judge is a different breed and will do anything to help the team even if he faces criticism despite him playing maybe at 75%.


Yep, Judge is one tough cookie (actually they all are). I do think that oblique is still a "thing." He just is not elevating the ball and he is missing pitches he should crush.
From the really big boob woman  
JPinstripes : 8/7/2019 5:18 pm : link
Meredith Marakovits
@M_Marakovits
Injury updates: CC Sabathia is expected to throw a bullpen this weekend. Giancarlo Stanton has started throwing and hit off a tee.... he’s still running on ultra-G treadmill. Dellin Betances threw today (flat ground ... all fastballs) #yankees
RE: From the really big boob woman  
Beer Man : 8/7/2019 5:31 pm : link
In comment 14521666 JPinstripes said:
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Meredith Marakovits
@M_Marakovits
Injury updates: CC Sabathia is expected to throw a bullpen this weekend. Giancarlo Stanton has started throwing and hit off a tee.... he’s still running on ultra-G treadmill. Dellin Betances threw today (flat ground ... all fastballs) #yankees
I also read today that Sevi may start throwing from a bullpen mound this weekend, but Betances is not sure when he can do the same.
RE: MRI showed no sports hernia or strains for Gleyber.  
Del Shofner : 8/7/2019 5:32 pm : link
In comment 14521654 bceagle05 said:
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Makes it kind of a weird situation, but good news I guess.


But is he still going on the IL, or no? Sounds like 10 days of rest wouldn't be a bad idea, and someone mentioned above that Estrada is up with the team.
RE: RE: MRI showed no sports hernia or strains for Gleyber.  
Beer Man : 8/7/2019 5:36 pm : link
In comment 14521678 Del Shofner said:
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Makes it kind of a weird situation, but good news I guess.



But is he still going on the IL, or no? Sounds like 10 days of rest wouldn't be a bad idea, and someone mentioned above that Estrada is up with the team.
Team needs him badly for the playoff run. I say shut him down now for two to three weeks, let it heal and not become a major issue.
Boone says Gleybor  
Beer Man : 8/7/2019 5:40 pm : link
is not going to the IL, is day-to-day, and will be travelling with the team to Toronto
RE: MRI showed no sports hernia or strains for Gleyber.  
section125 : 8/7/2019 5:41 pm : link
In comment 14521654 bceagle05 said:
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Makes it kind of a weird situation, but good news I guess.


Hey, maybe it is just a slight strain. Sit him on his ass for 10 days. Bring Estrada or Wade up and let that heal.

I know I'm an old geezer, but sometimes my side bothers me after golf - feels like a pull. Goes away in a day or so.
RE: Boone says Gleybor  
Beer Man : 8/7/2019 5:41 pm : link
In comment 14521682 Beer Man said:
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is not going to the IL, is day-to-day, and will be travelling with the team to Toronto
Sorry Estrada fans, he is being sent back to SWB.
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 6:56 pm : link
Wow, I was very pleasantly surprised by the Gleyber news - I was really expecting at least a 10 day IL trip. Good stuff. I hope they go really easy with him anyway and don't push this. Whatever's going on - if it can be made worse by rushing him, hopefully they'll give him a break for a couple days. If we have to play with a short bench, a couple games, so be it.

(Also.. thanks, JP - lol)
Hope they get  
section125 : 8/7/2019 7:07 pm : link
this done..
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 7:14 pm : link
Pax has been working his curveball in more lately - I think it's been a help and why he looked better against the Red Sox.

Hoping for more of the same here. He's going to mix the curve in with the cut and hopefully those secondaries get him some better results and he can continue being aggressive with his FB in the zone like we were seeing earlier in the season.
Urshela with a double.  
section125 : 8/7/2019 8:01 pm : link
Maybe someone else can get a hit.
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 8:02 pm : link
Okay here we go.

1st and 3rd. 1 down.
man, the Orioles are just not very good  
Del Shofner : 8/7/2019 8:03 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 8:05 pm : link
The O's may be playing some of the worst outfield defense I've ever seen... like.... ever.

I'm not a Boomer Esiason fan, but this morning he said they looked like Crash Test Dummies in the outfield and it made me laugh because he's right. They've got guys getting hit in the head by fly balls, getting leveled by the wall, missing pop ups, falling down... I really can't recall seeing an outfield play quite this poorly in a series in recent memory. Boy, are they bad...
Yeah, are the Yanks getting full credit for 1 game for these wins?  
Stan in LA : 8/7/2019 8:09 pm : link
Or is it only 3/4?
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 8:10 pm : link
And just like I said earlier... Higgy goes deep. :)
Higgie...?  
GruningsOnTheHill : 8/7/2019 8:10 pm : link
4-nil
Ok, I predicted two HRs  
section125 : 8/7/2019 8:11 pm : link
for Higgy. That is the first. 4-0 good guys.
unfortunately, Houston gets to play these guys next  
Del Shofner : 8/7/2019 8:13 pm : link
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RE: unfortunately, Houston gets to play these guys next  
section125 : 8/7/2019 8:14 pm : link
In comment 14521773 Del Shofner said:
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Eh, we are toughening the O's up. They'll take 2 of 3....
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Del Shofner : 8/7/2019 8:15 pm : link
In comment 14521766 arcarsenal said:
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The O's may be playing some of the worst outfield defense I've ever seen... like.... ever. ... I really can't recall seeing an outfield play quite this poorly in a series in recent memory. Boy, are they bad...


Paul Blair (8 Gold Gloves in CF for the O's) must be rolling in his grave.

Those Orioles teams were really good defensively.
Who ARE these guy??  
rnargi : 8/7/2019 8:17 pm : link
Holy cow!
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Bill2 : 8/7/2019 8:20 pm : link
This is a very well coached organization.

Not just at the MLB level. From AA up they all are very well prepared and play smart baseball and most of all, have very solid approaches at the plate
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rnargi : 8/7/2019 8:24 pm : link
In comment 14521780 Bill2 said:
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This is a very well coached organization.

Not just at the MLB level. From AA up they all are very well prepared and play smart baseball and most of all, have very solid approaches at the plate


Indeed. And that will be key in October
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Stu11 : 8/7/2019 8:26 pm : link
In comment 14521780 Bill2 said:
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This is a very well coached organization.

Not just at the MLB level. From AA up they all are very well prepared and play smart baseball and most of all, have very solid approaches at the plate

Someone mentioned it either during the game or on MLB network Or MLB Radio I forget- That our system isn't necessarily filled with superstars in the making, but what they are is very well coached and prepared to contribute right away when they get here.
I like that they also coach the kids  
section125 : 8/7/2019 8:29 pm : link
on media and life situations(iirc) from the time they join the organization. Protecting their "assets".
Gio  
JPinstripes : 8/7/2019 8:32 pm : link
wow.
Geez - Urshela just misses  
section125 : 8/7/2019 8:33 pm : link
a Castro FB - a little high, then crushes the next one...6-1
the Yanks must be playing with, say, 35 of the guys on the 40-man  
Del Shofner : 8/7/2019 8:33 pm : link
this season - never seen a "next man up" situation function so smoothly.
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 8:34 pm : link
Yep - for whoever has read Inside the Empire, you really learn about just how much attention to detail is paid by the Yankees org and how they work on developing these kids as human beings as well as ball players.

From the moment they enter the organization, they're coached up and given a lot of attention. The yanks really do a great job with their player development and it has a lot to do with why this next man up mentality just keeps working or us like this.

There is a LOT going on behind the scenes with this franchise. They put in tons and tons of work to maximize the chances of their kids succeeding.
Stu and Section  
Bill2 : 8/7/2019 8:36 pm : link
agreed
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 8:37 pm : link
And that HR #49 against the O's is an MLB record for most HR's hit against one opponent in a single season... ALL TIME.

What the 2019 Yankees are doing is just really incredible.
And  
Bill2 : 8/7/2019 8:41 pm : link
Arc and Del as well

When Gary, Judge came up and Severino started to flash - that was exciting. Great talents

this year is exciting because the organization is flashing big time.

Solid baserunners. Throw to the right bases. Are not overwhelmed by the moment. Vets treat them well.

Manager does not even talk about easing them in. Just get to the Park and produce
Oh boy Chris Davis pulling a Reggie-Billy Martin in the dugout!  
Stu11 : 8/7/2019 8:45 pm : link
Wonder who he was going after
If the Rays can split their season in Montréal  
Jay in Toronto : 8/7/2019 8:46 pm : link
Maybe the Yanks can do same in Camden Yard?
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 8:46 pm : link
The Orioles are just an absolute tire fire... now Chris Davis is trying to go after someone in the tunnel.

Just glad we're on the other side of this thing.

Pax looks great. Keep rolling. Would love to keep the pen usage to a minimum tonight before we head to Toronto.
Really  
Bill2 : 8/7/2019 8:46 pm : link
Himself
Wonder who Davis was going after  
micky : 8/7/2019 8:46 pm : link
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He was lunging at the Os manager  
DC Gmen Fan : 8/7/2019 8:47 pm : link
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Wow, Crash Davis looking to  
section125 : 8/7/2019 8:47 pm : link
get into it with somebody in the dugout. Temper flaring and bad baseball has a lot to do with it I'd venture a guess.
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 8:50 pm : link
Looks like Hyde yanked him and then when they went down into the tunnel things escalated.
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 8:52 pm : link
I actually feel bad for Brandon Hyde... he has nothing there. His team is terrible. And they're just being completely demolished and embarrassed almost nightly.

He's frustrated... I don't blame him. They've given him virtually nothing to succeed with.
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 8:59 pm : link
My goodness.... GIO.

Somebody stop the damn match!
Gio  
JPinstripes : 8/7/2019 8:59 pm : link
wow.
Happy for the boys  
bceagle05 : 8/7/2019 8:59 pm : link
but this is brutal to watch. Baltimore might be the worst team I've ever seen.
They should institute  
Jay in Toronto : 8/7/2019 9:02 pm : link
The cricket declare rule.

Let's not lose sight of the fine game Paxton has turned in.
Little League and HS have  
section125 : 8/7/2019 9:04 pm : link
mercy rules. Maybe they need it in MLB, too.

Do you think SWB could beat the O's?
most of you are too young to remember (or care) but  
Del Shofner : 8/7/2019 9:04 pm : link
from the mid-60s through the early '70s the Orioles were just kryptonite to the Yanks (who were not very good during that time anyway) - Frank Robinson, Brooks Robinson, Paul Blair, Jim Palmer, Dave McNally, Boog Powell. They always found a way to beat the Yanks. It was very frustrating. In hindsight, they were just fundamentally better in every aspect of the game. (They did win a couple of World Series during that time so it wasn't just us.)

So it's weird to me to see the O's so fundamentally bad. That's never been my impression of the team, but that's what they are now.
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 9:06 pm : link
Kenny Singleton is a treasure. He called Eshelman's fastball the "Ronald Reagan fastball" because he's only hitting mid 80's on the gun. I wish he would come up to Toronto and keep calling the games with Ruocco. They're great together.

And Maybin is on base for a 3rd time now because the O's still haven't figured out how to play defense.
RE: most of you are too young to remember (or care) but  
section125 : 8/7/2019 9:07 pm : link
In comment 14521824 Del Shofner said:
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from the mid-60s through the early '70s the Orioles were just kryptonite to the Yanks (who were not very good during that time anyway) - Frank Robinson, Brooks Robinson, Paul Blair, Jim Palmer, Dave McNally, Boog Powell. They always found a way to beat the Yanks. It was very frustrating. In hindsight, they were just fundamentally better in every aspect of the game. (They did win a couple of World Series during that time so it wasn't just us.)

So it's weird to me to see the O's so fundamentally bad. That's never been my impression of the team, but that's what they are now.


GD Earl Weaver and his .188 BA shortstop Mark Belanger!
agree Del  
Bill2 : 8/7/2019 9:08 pm : link
we played Kansas City or the St Louis Browns to those Baltimore teams.

Had a great double play combination, a great CF, four 20 game winners and if they had to turn it on, Frank Robinson was a fierce player. A warrior spirit to match Bob Gibson ( almost match)
RE: Little League and HS have  
Ron from Ninerland : 8/7/2019 9:08 pm : link
In comment 14521823 section125 said:
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mercy rules. Maybe they need it in MLB, too.

Do you think SWB could beat the O's?
Look at our lineup. SWB IS beating the O's
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Bill2 : 8/7/2019 9:10 pm : link
Boog Powell, Don Buford and later Ken Singleton and other truly professional players
RE: most of you are too young to remember (or care) but  
Eman11 : 8/7/2019 9:10 pm : link
In comment 14521824 Del Shofner said:
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from the mid-60s through the early '70s the Orioles were just kryptonite to the Yanks (who were not very good during that time anyway) - Frank Robinson, Brooks Robinson, Paul Blair, Jim Palmer, Dave McNally, Boog Powell. They always found a way to beat the Yanks. It was very frustrating. In hindsight, they were just fundamentally better in every aspect of the game. (They did win a couple of World Series during that time so it wasn't just us.)

So it's weird to me to see the O's so fundamentally bad. That's never been my impression of the team, but that's what they are now.


You're 100% right about those old O's teams being so sound. I hated them for always having the Yanks number or seeming to anyway, but I always admired and respected how they played.

Hard to believe the same franchise has done a 180 but with this team it starts at the top. Their owner is as bad as the team he puts on the field and maybe worse.
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section125 : 8/7/2019 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14521833 Ron from Ninerland said:
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mercy rules. Maybe they need it in MLB, too.

Do you think SWB could beat the O's?

Look at our lineup. SWB IS beating the O's


Yeah, the minute I posted that I thought, damn over 1/2 of SWB is here anyway.

That team is demoralized. Errors, pass balls, WPs, forgetting how many outs there are.
Mark belanger  
xman : 8/7/2019 9:13 pm : link
tough getting a ball through that left side
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 9:15 pm : link
Funny... 2 or 3 posters have been completely absent from Yankees threads since the start of this win streak.

Soon as we lose one, they'll be here!
RE: Little League and HS have  
Hsilwek92 : 8/7/2019 9:23 pm : link
In comment 14521823 section125 said:
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mercy rules. Maybe they need it in MLB, too.

Do you think SWB could beat the O's?


Fuck that noise. I want 20!
RE: most of you are too young to remember (or care) but  
dune69 : 8/7/2019 9:24 pm : link
In comment 14521824 Del Shofner said:
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from the mid-60s through the early '70s the Orioles were just kryptonite to the Yanks (who were not very good during that time anyway) - Frank Robinson, Brooks Robinson, Paul Blair, Jim Palmer, Dave McNally, Boog Powell. They always found a way to beat the Yanks. It was very frustrating. In hindsight, they were just fundamentally better in every aspect of the game. (They did win a couple of World Series during that time so it wasn't just us.)

Del, I remember those teams very well. They were very successful and frustrating to play. It amazes me that this Angelos owned team has been allowed to be such a cellar dweller. What's the sense of owning a team when you have no desire to make them competitive. Fans bitch about Dolan as an owner, and rightfully so, but Angelos has been equally as bad. Sorry state for the Orioles.

So it's weird to me to see the O's so fundamentally bad. That's never been my impression of the team, but that's what they are now.
Really good to see Paxton  
black aces : 8/7/2019 9:26 pm : link
pitch like this. He stuff is too good to pitch as poorly as he had. Hopefully he stays on a roll.
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Greg from LI : 8/7/2019 9:27 pm : link
In comment 14521842 arcarsenal said:
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Funny... 2 or 3 posters have been completely absent from Yankees threads since the start of this win streak.

Soon as we lose one, they'll be here!


My, who could you possibly mean? Lol smh
Too many homeruns  
adamg : 8/7/2019 9:29 pm : link
We're just not playing baseball out there...
For almost 40 years, "The Oriole Way" was the standard  
Greg from LI : 8/7/2019 9:31 pm : link
The Orioles were a model franchise for a long time, noted for the adherence to fundamentals, consistency, and professionalism that was taught at every level of their system. Paul Richards and Earl Weaver would be horrified by what the franchise they built has degenerated into.
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 9:34 pm : link
In comment 14521854 Greg from LI said:
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Funny... 2 or 3 posters have been completely absent from Yankees threads since the start of this win streak.

Soon as we lose one, they'll be here!



My, who could you possibly mean? Lol smh


Smh smh lol
uh-oh here comes  
section125 : 8/7/2019 9:34 pm : link
Chance Hughes...
Paxton gets a standing O from the remaining fans who are  
Del Shofner : 8/7/2019 9:35 pm : link
90% Yankee fans at this point.
Gio was incredible tonight  
nygmen84 : 8/7/2019 9:42 pm : link
It's amazing how someone always steps up.
Someone post the crying "it's not fair" picture  
GiantsUA : 8/7/2019 9:48 pm : link
Go Yankee's
RE: For almost 40 years, the 'Oriole Way' was the standard  
Del Shofner : 8/7/2019 9:48 pm : link
In comment 14521862 Greg from LI said:
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The Orioles were a model franchise for a long time, noted for the adherence to fundamentals, consistency, and professionalism that was taught at every level of their system. Paul Richards and Earl Weaver would be horrified by what the franchise they built has degenerated into.


Great post Greg - that is what I was trying to say. Here's a link to more info about it. Much as I hate any division rival in any sport, the current Orioles are sad to see.

the Oriole Way - ( New Window )
Maybin - good Lord  
Del Shofner : 8/7/2019 9:50 pm : link
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I love when Gardner gets hot  
adamg : 8/7/2019 9:53 pm : link
it leads to runs
I remember when Cameron Maybin was drafted.  
Hsilwek92 : 8/7/2019 9:53 pm : link
I actually watched it online at work.

Fuck I’m old.
Crazy.  
section125 : 8/7/2019 9:55 pm : link
Yanks have 42 HRs at Camden but only 9 HRs at home against the Os... sick #s
RE: Crazy.  
adamg : 8/7/2019 9:56 pm : link
In comment 14521884 section125 said:
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Yanks have 42 HRs at Camden but only 9 HRs at home against the Os... sick #s


Pitching in the AL East must suck.
this is ridiculous  
Del Shofner : 8/7/2019 9:57 pm : link
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Arc is a prophet!!  
Greg from LI : 8/7/2019 9:57 pm : link
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LMAO  
adamg : 8/7/2019 9:57 pm : link
Higgy gets his second. Props to 125 and arc. Lol.
Ding-ding-ding  
section125 : 8/7/2019 9:57 pm : link
Higgy gets his 2nd HR as predicted!
Down here, I get the Orioles feed  
Greg from LI : 8/7/2019 9:58 pm : link
And good Lord, Gary Thorne sounds so beaten down. I honestly feel terrible for him.
Savages..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/7/2019 9:59 pm : link
in the fucking box!
RE: Down here, I get the Orioles feed  
Jints in Carolina : 8/7/2019 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14521891 Greg from LI said:
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And good Lord, Gary Thorne sounds so beaten down. I honestly feel terrible for him.


I actually enjoy the O's broadcast.
What an embarrassment  
Hsilwek92 : 8/7/2019 10:01 pm : link
God I love it because, well, fuck the Angelos’, but still, what an embarrassment.
Yanks have tied a record for most homers in a 3 game series  
Greg from LI : 8/7/2019 10:02 pm : link
16
RE: Yanks have tied a record for most homers in a 3 game series  
adamg : 8/7/2019 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14521896 Greg from LI said:
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16


That's just bad baseball. Can't win that way.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 10:04 pm : link
Gleyber is back in the dugout with the team. Just got back to the park. Got showered with some bro love.

Really enjoy the chemistry these guys have. It's a very tight-knit group.
O's  
Percy : 8/7/2019 10:05 pm : link
All this hasn't gone very well for them, has it? One would rather not see this unfortunate team thrashed so utterly and completely. There's a lot of baseball yet to be played this season.
This is pathetic  
Stu11 : 8/7/2019 10:07 pm : link
I agree Greg. The O's were always a class orginization growing up. Of course they were a division rival so there wasn't any love there but there was always respect. Even in the late 80's when we sucked and I was in school there and I would go to the old memorial stadium for a ton of games there and they'd abuse me I respected what their orginization stood for. Now they're a joke. Barely a major league team. For us to come in here with this lineup the past 3 nights. They should be as embarrased as you can be.
Singleton saying if Boone doesn't win Manager of the Year  
Del Shofner : 8/7/2019 10:12 pm : link
there's something wrong.

A little bit early for that but if current form holds, hard to disagree.
The league allowing teams  
section125 : 8/7/2019 10:14 pm : link
to sell off players and do this to their fans is unforgivable. Wasn't long ago Angelos was trying to build a winner and spen
Yanks now 42-14 against the AL East -  
Del Shofner : 8/7/2019 10:15 pm : link
gotta love that.
Well I guess SWB would  
section125 : 8/7/2019 10:16 pm : link
beat the O's...
New highwater mark of the year:  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/7/2019 10:18 pm : link
36 games over .500!
.  
arcarsenal : 8/7/2019 10:19 pm : link
8 in a row.

I feel bad for the O's fans... that's a horrendous baseball team.

It's almost hard to believe that they were actually in the ALCS just 5 years ago...

But, there's no crying in baseball. Keep on rolling.

36 games over .500.
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adamg : 8/7/2019 10:21 pm : link
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Yankees hit 43 HR in 10 games vs Orioles at Camden Yards this season.

Orioles scored 44 runs in 10 games vs Yankees at Camden Yards this season.

Paxton nice game  
xman : 8/7/2019 10:39 pm : link
Erik Swanson not so good outing for Seattle
And they're actually 5 games better than the Tigers!  
Greg from LI : 8/7/2019 10:39 pm : link
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RE: Singleton saying if Boone doesn't win Manager of the Year  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/7/2019 11:28 pm : link
In comment 14521904 Del Shofner said:
Quote:
there's something wrong.

A little bit early for that but if current form holds, hard to disagree.


Maybe a a tad early but As Long as they win the division he should be unanimous.
The Orioles were actually playing .500  
Deejboy : 8/7/2019 11:55 pm : link
baseball since the start of the second half. They were 11-11. For the Orioles that was a big accomplishment. They weren't looking like an embarrassment. Then the Yankees showed up.
Call me crazy  
Marty866b : 8/8/2019 12:13 am : link
But I am not looking forward to either Sanchez or Stanton returning. Romine and Higgy have done an incredible job and they don't strike out and have so many terrible at bats like Sanchez. Sanchez has alarmingly looked like the same player as last year(his defense is better)the second half of the season. He has been a hole in the middle of the lineup. I also don't need to see Stanton either. This team has incredible chemistry and either Tauchman or Maybin would be sent down for Stanton which is IMO, a huge mistake. I realize that the Yankees aren't going to sit Stanton with his contract but the team is on a great run this season and Stanton has contributed nothing. Tough decisions are coming up and I am afraid it will not be for the better.
RE: Call me crazy  
Ron from Ninerland : 8/8/2019 1:41 am : link
In comment 14521941 Marty866b said:
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But I am not looking forward to either Sanchez or Stanton returning. Romine and Higgy have done an incredible job and they don't strike out and have so many terrible at bats like Sanchez. Sanchez has alarmingly looked like the same player as last year(his defense is better)the second half of the season. He has been a hole in the middle of the lineup. I also don't need to see Stanton either. This team has incredible chemistry and either Tauchman or Maybin would be sent down for Stanton which is IMO, a huge mistake. I realize that the Yankees aren't going to sit Stanton with his contract but the team is on a great run this season and Stanton has contributed nothing. Tough decisions are coming up and I am afraid it will not be for the better.
They can't send Maybin down. He's out of options. Stanton isn't coming back until the rosters expand in September probably.
RE: Call me crazy  
arcarsenal : 8/8/2019 8:11 am : link
In comment 14521941 Marty866b said:
Quote:
But I am not looking forward to either Sanchez or Stanton returning. Romine and Higgy have done an incredible job and they don't strike out and have so many terrible at bats like Sanchez. Sanchez has alarmingly looked like the same player as last year(his defense is better)the second half of the season. He has been a hole in the middle of the lineup. I also don't need to see Stanton either. This team has incredible chemistry and either Tauchman or Maybin would be sent down for Stanton which is IMO, a huge mistake. I realize that the Yankees aren't going to sit Stanton with his contract but the team is on a great run this season and Stanton has contributed nothing. Tough decisions are coming up and I am afraid it will not be for the better.


Romine and Higashioka have been fantastic in relief of Gary - but you're falling into a trap of small sample sizes.

Gary can carry a lineup by himself when he's hot. And I think fans are starting to write him off again - short memories.

As noted above, Maybin has no options. The Yankees aren't going to DFA him and lose him. He's been absolutely awesome and he's become a heart and soul player for this team.

Stanton isn't close to returning and Hicks probably isn't that close either. Odds are we're going to hit September or get close before we ever have to worry about who the odd man out is in the OF.

Regardless, worrying about whose place Stanton will take is pointless. He's barely doing anything but light, reduced-impact running right now. He's not close and this decision doesn't have to be made now or anytime soon. This stuff often shakes itself out.
Gary was probably worn out  
mattnyg05 : 8/8/2019 8:15 am : link
But for about 2 months he’s been horrendous. Hopefully the rest will get him back to full strength and also maybe he can DH more when he does get back.
The brief O's renaissance under Buck...  
Dunedin81 : 8/8/2019 8:35 am : link
masked how fundamentally shitty that organization was, top to bottom. They lucked out in large part because they had 6 top-5 picks in a row (and Machado was the only one who became a star). But their approach to IFA was shit, they were anathema to FAs because of their issues with physicals, and the majority of players couldn't wait to leave. Angelos was sitting on a devoted fan base and one of the great modern parks in baseball and he managed to piss that away, such that much of NOVA and even some of Southern MD have been given over to the Nats. Just a textbook case of how not to run a franchise.

They're in better shape going forward with Rutschman and DL Hall and seem to have really hit on Grayson Rodriguez (and they've changed over their pitching development so it is no longer a virtual certainty they'll destroy those arms) and they're starting to play in IFA, but it's still a pretty shallow farm, all things considered. They are years away.
Higashioka doesnt strike out?  
Greg from LI : 8/8/2019 8:43 am : link
He's got 16 Ks in 35 plate appearances.

Romine has a two week hot streak and the usual suspects pop up to pretend that this is who he is as a hitter, and not his wretched career stats. He also is inferior to Sanchez behind the plate - rag arm, calls a lousy game
Dunedin81  
YANKEE28 : 8/8/2019 8:44 am : link
Good morning,

Interested in your thoughts on Yankee righty starter Brian Keller.

He recently threw a no hitter in Trenton, and was rewarded with a promotion to AAA Scranton.

Should Yankees fans consider him as an eventual member of the Yankee rotation?
.  
arcarsenal : 8/8/2019 8:45 am : link
Sort of random, but passing on Harper looks better and better by the day...

.249/.370/.459/.829

19 HR, 73 RBI

2.6 fWAR

He's barely even a top 50 position player at this point and the Phillies are going nowhere. Not his fault - but that's a lot of scratch to pay for a guy who doesn't appear to be making much of a difference.
Harper fWAR 2.6  
Greg from LI : 8/8/2019 8:49 am : link
Tauchman 2.0. Strange but true.
RE: Dunedin81  
Dunedin81 : 8/8/2019 8:58 am : link
In comment 14522003 YANKEE28 said:
Quote:
Good morning,

Interested in your thoughts on Yankee righty starter Brian Keller.

He recently threw a no hitter in Trenton, and was rewarded with a promotion to AAA Scranton.

Should Yankees fans consider him as an eventual member of the Yankee rotation?


Probably not. He dominated AA as a 25 year old, which is good, and it's hard to do better than a sub-1 WHIP and a BB rate around 2, but he's a fly ball pitcher with a (relatively) low K rate. Pitching at Trenton that hasn't meant homeruns, but that is unlikely to carry over to AAA. He has a deep repertoire, a crafty righty of sorts, but unless the needle has moved his velocity is 90-93 for the most part. He's more in that JAG category.
Thanks Dune  
YANKEE28 : 8/8/2019 9:01 am : link
Another question.

Who has a better future as a Yankees starter:

Deivi Garcia
or
Luis Gil

RE: Thanks Dune  
Dunedin81 : 8/8/2019 9:05 am : link
In comment 14522029 YANKEE28 said:
Quote:
Another question.

Who has a better future as a Yankees starter:

Deivi Garcia
or
Luis Gil


Gil has the frame to keep doing what he's doing. Smart money says that Deivi will eventually break down because virtually everyone that size and with that frame has done so. Pedro is really the only counter-example, maybe Billy Wagner (though Wagner wasn't as slight). But Deivi is younger and has done it at higher levels than Gil, so I wouldn't bet against him.
One last question  
YANKEE28 : 8/8/2019 9:11 am : link
The scouts seem pretty unanimous that Luis Medina has the best "arm" in the Yankees minors, but that his control has really held him back.

It seems (including last night), that he is finally getting better with control, but it has taken years to fix.

I believe he is Rule 5 eligible this offseason.

What do the Yankees do with Luis Medina this offseason?
RE: Higashioka doesnt strike out?  
section125 : 8/8/2019 9:14 am : link
In comment 14522002 Greg from LI said:
Quote:
He's got 16 Ks in 35 plate appearances.

Romine has a two week hot streak and the usual suspects pop up to pretend that this is who he is as a hitter, and not his wretched career stats. He also is inferior to Sanchez behind the plate - rag arm, calls a lousy game


Yes, every year Gary gets hurt, Romine plays well for a while before reality sets in and he gets back to normal.

He does not have Gary's arm and he is nowhere near perfect behind the plate. Romine is a backup catcher not a starter. While I don't agree he is the basket case whom you love to demean, he is not as good as the team states. He is what he paid to do, be a competent backup catcher.
by hook or by crook  
bigbluehoya : 8/8/2019 9:20 am : link
I'd think this is probably Romine's last year with NYY. He's making $1.8M right now, probably wants a raise from there in UFA. NYY can get the same or better production from Higgy, who has years of control left and more upside.

With the way Romine has swung the bat this season (well above his career numbers and well above his long-term ceiling, UFA couldn't be coming at a better time for him. If he can get a 3 year $10-12m deal from someone he should take the money and runnnnnn.
RE: One last question  
Dunedin81 : 8/8/2019 9:26 am : link
In comment 14522045 YANKEE28 said:
Quote:
The scouts seem pretty unanimous that Luis Medina has the best "arm" in the Yankees minors, but that his control has really held him back.

It seems (including last night), that he is finally getting better with control, but it has taken years to fix.

I believe he is Rule 5 eligible this offseason.

What do the Yankees do with Luis Medina this offseason?


Medina's issues are twofold. One is physical. Consensus is he falls off the mound in his follow-through, which impacts his control and his consistency. The other is mental. He has the unfortunate habit of turning adversity (a BB, a HBP, a fielding error) into catastrophe. This last start he didn't do that, he dealt with three fielding errors and still put up a zero. His BB rate has come down too, though it remains high. These last five starts have been the best month or so of his pro career, so the hope is that he's turned a corner.

IDK about the Rule 5 draft. It'd be tough to risk losing that arm, but the list of teams that could keep him in the bigs for a season is pretty small. Probably Baltimore and Miami, end of list.
RE: by hook or by crook  
Dunedin81 : 8/8/2019 9:27 am : link
In comment 14522055 bigbluehoya said:
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I'd think this is probably Romine's last year with NYY. He's making $1.8M right now, probably wants a raise from there in UFA. NYY can get the same or better production from Higgy, who has years of control left and more upside.

With the way Romine has swung the bat this season (well above his career numbers and well above his long-term ceiling, UFA couldn't be coming at a better time for him. If he can get a 3 year $10-12m deal from someone he should take the money and runnnnnn.


I think he wants somewhere he can at least plausibly compete for a job, even if he doesn't go in the favorite. That's probably a less competitive team.
It just  
YANKEE28 : 8/8/2019 9:33 am : link
bothers me to see what the Padres did with our catcher Luis Torrens.

Sure, he was horrible in the majors in 2017, but the Padres would not return him to the Yankees under Rule 5 and now have a great future player.

This year Torrens is on their 40 man roster, and is their every day catcher in AA. He is hitting .300 and has thrown out an amazing 48% of runners attempting to steal on him (in about 85 attempts).

I would just hate to see another team get a free pickup of Medina in the offseason.
RE: It just  
Dunedin81 : 8/8/2019 9:36 am : link
In comment 14522072 YANKEE28 said:
Quote:
bothers me to see what the Padres did with our catcher Luis Torrens.

Sure, he was horrible in the majors in 2017, but the Padres would not return him to the Yankees under Rule 5 and now have a great future player.

This year Torrens is on their 40 man roster, and is their every day catcher in AA. He is hitting .300 and has thrown out an amazing 48% of runners attempting to steal on him (in about 85 attempts).

I would just hate to see another team get a free pickup of Medina in the offseason.


It's a shitty rule. Torrens lost a full year of development time. For hitters in particular, getting thrown in over your head can devastate progression. It is to his credit that it didn't destroy him as a prospect, but it still creates some shitty incentives that are not player-friendly. It's tough to say for sure, but there's a good chance Torrens would be a full-time big leaguer by now if he had stayed healthy.
Yes, that Torrens thing is very annoying  
Greg from LI : 8/8/2019 9:38 am : link
A team that isn't even trying to win games can easily tote a kid around on their big league roster for an entire year and then send him back to the minors to develop. A total abuse of the Rule V system.
RE: RE: Higashioka doesnt strike out?  
Carson53 : 8/8/2019 9:52 am : link
In comment 14522048 section125 said:
Quote:
In comment 14522002 Greg from LI said:


Quote:


He's got 16 Ks in 35 plate appearances.

Romine has a two week hot streak and the usual suspects pop up to pretend that this is who he is as a hitter, and not his wretched career stats. He also is inferior to Sanchez behind the plate - rag arm, calls a lousy game



Yes, every year Gary gets hurt, Romine plays well for a while before reality sets in and he gets back to normal.

He does not have Gary's arm and he is nowhere near perfect behind the plate. Romine is a backup catcher not a starter. While I don't agree he is the basket case whom you love to demean, he is not as good as the team states. He is what he paid to do, be a competent backup catcher.
.

Gary has been on the IL now three times with groin issues
since last year...Maybe he should consider a personal trainer and maybe take up yoga or pilates or something in the offseason.
He is heavy legged, and a catcher to boot.
Higgy might wind up as the backup next year, Romine is
a free agent. Higgy needs to make more contact, but he has pop.
The O's  
Carson53 : 8/8/2019 9:55 am : link
are so bad, I almost feel sorry for them.
That was bad optics in their dugout last night with Davis, and their manager...just a bad bad look, for a once
proud franchise!
You don't think Gary is working out...  
Dunedin81 : 8/8/2019 9:55 am : link
with high-end personal trainers?
Fun fact  
Greg from LI : 8/8/2019 9:55 am : link
The Yankees are second in the league in homers with 198 despite Stanton playing just nine games, Judge playing only 58, and Sanchez playing only 77.
RE: The O's  
Dunedin81 : 8/8/2019 9:56 am : link
In comment 14522095 Carson53 said:
Quote:
are so bad, I almost feel sorry for them.
That was bad optics in their dugout last night with Davis, and their manager...just a bad bad look, for a once
proud franchise!


Davis is utterly untradeable, just an idiotic contract. He didn't want to be there either, he was begging the Cardinals to get in the same financial wheelhouse, but they (wisely) refused.
RE: You don't think Gary is working out...  
Carson53 : 8/8/2019 9:58 am : link
In comment 14522096 Dunedin81 said:
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with high-end personal trainers?


It doesn't appear to be working for his groin area does it?
Three times on the IL, since last year with groin issues.
Something like yoga or pilates might help, just saying.
RE: RE: The O's  
Carson53 : 8/8/2019 10:01 am : link
In comment 14522098 Dunedin81 said:
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In comment 14522095 Carson53 said:


Quote:


are so bad, I almost feel sorry for them.
That was bad optics in their dugout last night with Davis, and their manager...just a bad bad look, for a once
proud franchise!



Davis is utterly untradeable, just an idiotic contract. He didn't want to be there either, he was begging the Cardinals to get in the same financial wheelhouse, but they (wisely) refused.
.

I read he has three years left on that deal, ugh!
.  
arcarsenal : 8/8/2019 10:04 am : link
Hyde was right to yank Davis from that game. He was really, really dogging it. Wasn't chasing foul balls into foul territory, barely went after the ball that got under his glove on one of Maybin's hits, and even on a routine put out @ 1B, he just lazily flipped his glove up near his body to lazily catch the ball without even reaching for it on a LeMahieu groundout.

That guy is really something else. At least fucking hustle and bust it out there if you're not going to be able to hit. Terrible look for him.
Three more years for Davis...  
Dunedin81 : 8/8/2019 10:05 am : link
but with deferrals they'll be paying him until 2037
Davis needs to be DFAed...  
Dunedin81 : 8/8/2019 10:09 am : link
they need to bite the bullet and do it. Nothing good comes from him being on the team. He is well below replacement level on both offense and defense.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/8/2019 10:11 am : link
Yeah, they really just need to eat the money at this point and cut bait. He's a shitty guy to have there, he's blocking other guys who might be better solutions and his body language just sucks.

He's the very last thing you want on a rebuilding baseball team.
RE: Fun fact  
section125 : 8/8/2019 10:41 am : link
In comment 14522097 Greg from LI said:
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The Yankees are second in the league in homers with 198 despite Stanton playing just nine games, Judge playing only 58, and Sanchez playing only 77.


Thought Urshela's 2nd HR put them at 200 HRs and then they hit 2 or 3 more.

To your point, I guess the Twins will break and hold the record and the Yanks will be in 2nd place which is remarkable. despite the Juiced ball, with their best 3 power hitters sidelined so long.
RE: RE: Dunedin81  
Deejboy : 8/8/2019 11:07 am : link
In comment 14522023 Dunedin81 said:
Quote:
In comment 14522003 YANKEE28 said:


Quote:


Good morning,

Interested in your thoughts on Yankee righty starter Brian Keller.

He recently threw a no hitter in Trenton, and was rewarded with a promotion to AAA Scranton.

Should Yankees fans consider him as an eventual member of the Yankee rotation?



Probably not. He dominated AA as a 25 year old, which is good, and it's hard to do better than a sub-1 WHIP and a BB rate around 2, but he's a fly ball pitcher with a (relatively) low K rate. Pitching at Trenton that hasn't meant homeruns, but that is unlikely to carry over to AAA. He has a deep repertoire, a crafty righty of sorts, but unless the needle has moved his velocity is 90-93 for the most part. He's more in that JAG category.

Zack Littell 2.0.
Littell isn't unreasonable as a comp...  
Dunedin81 : 8/8/2019 11:12 am : link
but Keller has the added issue of being a fly ball pitcher. Not that he couldn't have a big league career, just that YS probably isn't the place for him to do it.
you're right - B-R's numbers aren't updated for last night  
Greg from LI : 8/8/2019 11:54 am : link
So it would be 203 now
RE: Higashioka doesnt strike out?  
adamg : 8/8/2019 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14522002 Greg from LI said:
Quote:
He's got 16 Ks in 35 plate appearances.

Romine has a two week hot streak and the usual suspects pop up to pretend that this is who he is as a hitter, and not his wretched career stats. He also is inferior to Sanchez behind the plate - rag arm, calls a lousy game


But Greg we want Gary to DH to get Higgy's bat in the lineup.
Look, I have a soft spot for Higgy  
Greg from LI : 8/8/2019 12:33 pm : link
A couple of years ago I argued that they should replace Romine with him. I like the pop in his bat. The notion that he doesn't strike out much, though, is ridiculous.
Since today is a slow day...  
Greg from LI : 8/8/2019 1:30 pm : link
....a thought popped into my head. The Yankees played the Orioles in the 1996 ALCS. Yankees won the series 4-1 but it was closer than that would indicated - game 1 (the infamous Jeffrey Maier game) went extras, they had to come back in the 8th inning to win game 3, and game 4 was a one run game until the Yankees broke it open with 3 in the 8th.

When that series started in October 1996, the Orioles had won a championship more recently than the Yankees (1983 vs 1978). How dramatically the fortunes of the two organizations diverged after that series.

Or even since 1997. The Orioles played in the ALCS that year again, against the Indians after they knocked off the Yankees. They lost 4 games to 2, four one run losses, two in extra innings, two in walkoff situations, blowing leads in two of them. One of the extra innings games ended on a botched suicide squeeze - Omar Vizquel whiffed on the bunt attempt but, behind the plate, Charles Johnson dropped the pitch and that allowed Marquis Grissom to score the winning run. Brutal.
RE: The brief O's renaissance under Buck...  
Rover : 8/8/2019 2:17 pm : link
In comment 14521996 Dunedin81 said:
Quote:
masked how fundamentally shitty that organization was, top to bottom. They lucked out in large part because they had 6 top-5 picks in a row (and Machado was the only one who became a star). But their approach to IFA was shit, they were anathema to FAs because of their issues with physicals, and the majority of players couldn't wait to leave. Angelos was sitting on a devoted fan base and one of the great modern parks in baseball and he managed to piss that away, such that much of NOVA and even some of Southern MD have been given over to the Nats. Just a textbook case of how not to run a franchise.

They're in better shape going forward with Rutschman and DL Hall and seem to have really hit on Grayson Rodriguez (and they've changed over their pitching development so it is no longer a virtual certainty they'll destroy those arms) and they're starting to play in IFA, but it's still a pretty shallow farm, all things considered. They are years away.

Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving fan base.
Orioles fans always pissed me off with how they acted like they were entitled to DC or somehow the St Louis of baseball fans to the AL.

Their attendance sucked until the Colts moved, and then it was inflated by DC not having a team/Cals streak/1st new ball park/no football.

I’m happy they suck, Baltimore will always be Yankee Stadium South.
RE: you're right - B-R's numbers aren't updated for last night  
section125 : 8/8/2019 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14522281 Greg from LI said:
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So it would be 203 now


203 with 49 games to go...
Greg  
Dunedin81 : 8/8/2019 3:15 pm : link
Did you see Joey Bart, Heliot Ramos and Sean Hjelle are all moving up to Richmond? Wasn't going to visit the Diamond again this year but I may have to fit in a trip.
I did not  
Greg from LI : 8/8/2019 3:36 pm : link
Truthfully, I don't really follow the minors anymore outside of the Yankees system. I take it those guys are good? I only am familiar with the handful of very top prospects, the Wander Franco Gavin Lux kind of level.

The wife and I were just saying that we need to get out to a game. Haven't been yet this year, in no small part due to how hellishly hot the weather's been most of this summer.
Joey Bart was the #2 overall pick last year...  
Dunedin81 : 8/8/2019 3:48 pm : link
while Ramos was their first rounder the year before. They're their top two prospects. Sean Hjelle is 6'10" or so and their best pitching prospect.
good, they can use the infusion of talent  
Greg from LI : 8/8/2019 3:53 pm : link
Squirrels have been pretty bad for a while now
RE: .  
LS : 8/10/2019 8:55 am : link
In comment 14522120 arcarsenal said:
Quote:
Yeah, they really just need to eat the money at this point and cut bait. He's a shitty guy to have there, he's blocking other guys who might be better solutions and his body language just sucks.

He's the very last thing you want on a rebuilding baseball team.


I noticed when Davis was walking back to the dugout after the last time he struck out, he actually winked at his passing teammate going up to bat. Seriously?
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