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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/8/2019 6:54 pm
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This team has some really nice young talent.....  
Simms11 : 8/8/2019 10:14 pm : link
Nice foundation to build on
Fantastic  
AcidTest : 8/8/2019 10:15 pm : link
play by Ballentine.

Very nice throw by Lauletta.
I am really impressed by Ballentine so far...  
EricJ : 8/8/2019 10:16 pm : link
lots of ball awareness all night and he is always there step for step with the WR
Football wasn't meant to be  
crick n NC : 8/8/2019 10:16 pm : link
Played perfectly
Human error is part of it, although you try to do the best you can.

On the interception, technically it probably should have been overturned as well since the first one was called.

This rule opens up a huge fan of worms
Can  
crick n NC : 8/8/2019 10:16 pm : link
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Ballentine !  
Bluesbreaker : 8/8/2019 10:17 pm : link
Again funny I thought it was a questionable pick
at the time man he sticks like a burdock .
That was a spectacular catch by White ..
Well anybody questioning the past two drafts
all this negative crap on DG have a nice dish of Crow .
CJ Conrad  
The72nd_stern : 8/8/2019 10:17 pm : link
has made some really good catches while getting hit.
RE: I am really impressed by Ballentine so far...  
Simms11 : 8/8/2019 10:17 pm : link
In comment 14523683 EricJ said:
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lots of ball awareness all night and he is always there step for step with the WR


And can return kicks too...pretty impressive for a guy coming from a small school.
RE: But by your definition  
AcesUp : 8/8/2019 10:17 pm : link
In comment 14523651 River Mike said:
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it truly will be matter of opinion subject to the officials opinion if it was important enough to the game to overturn. Sorry, can't buy it. if the replay is ambiguous or not quite clear, be conservative and don't overturn. But that one was clearly, unambiguously against the rules.


So we're putting more on the refs' plates when it comes to subjective calls. Spot fouls that decide games are now up to the refs to decide if "it's import enough to the game to overturn"? So you're saying the refs now can't be consistent and have to go beyond what they see on the tape and decide whether the call is "important enough" to overturn?

The refs get a lot of shit but the league doesn't do them any favors, this is another example. That call was obvious but you can find by the book PI on almost every play, I don't want a football game decided by whether or not that ref wants to call it by the book or use his discretion based on game situation.
Jones,Connelly,Ballentine  
Marty866b : 8/8/2019 10:18 pm : link
IMO, those are the draft picks that have shined tonight
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arcarsenal : 8/8/2019 10:19 pm : link
Corey Ballentine can cover. I like it.
It's nice to see we have some depth  
terptacular : 8/8/2019 10:20 pm : link
I got used to our preseason 2nd halves being a dumpster fire
Webb is 2/7 with 2 INTs  
Mr. Bungle : 8/8/2019 10:20 pm : link
against backups and rookies. Sheesh.

Great trade up, Jerry.
RE: Webb is 2/7 with 2 INTs  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/8/2019 10:22 pm : link
In comment 14523699 Mr. Bungle said:
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against backups and rookies. Sheesh.

Great trade up, Jerry.

Was that his only trade up ffs?
Our Pass Rush is going to be  
Simms11 : 8/8/2019 10:25 pm : link
a huge ? this year. Some push, but not enough there.
We  
AcidTest : 8/8/2019 10:26 pm : link
didn't trade up for Webb. Just took him in the third round.
I got a good feeling about where this team is  
beatrixkiddo : 8/8/2019 10:27 pm : link
Heading. Getting contributions from our middle round picks is huge. We had nearly a decade of just not good drafts. The draft is more than the 1st and 2nd round and the Giants havenít done that under Reeces tenure. Gentleman seems to be getting us on the right track. I see a more well rounded team here.
Hillman looks like he hit his head  
Simms11 : 8/8/2019 10:29 pm : link
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RE: Hillman looks like he hit his head  
ChaChing : 8/8/2019 10:30 pm : link
In comment 14523714 Simms11 said:
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yup, thought i saw the same
RE: Hillman looks like he hit his head  
Jay in Toronto : 8/8/2019 10:31 pm : link
In comment 14523714 Simms11 said:
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They'll stash him on IR
RE: RE: But by your definition  
River Mike : 8/8/2019 10:32 pm : link
In comment 14523694 AcesUp said:
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In comment 14523651 River Mike said:


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it truly will be matter of opinion subject to the officials opinion if it was important enough to the game to overturn. Sorry, can't buy it. if the replay is ambiguous or not quite clear, be conservative and don't overturn. But that one was clearly, unambiguously against the rules.



So we're putting more on the refs' plates when it comes to subjective calls. Spot fouls that decide games are now up to the refs to decide if "it's import enough to the game to overturn"? So you're saying the refs now can't be consistent and have to go beyond what they see on the tape and decide whether the call is "important enough" to overturn?

The refs get a lot of shit but the league doesn't do them any favors, this is another example. That call was obvious but you can find by the book PI on almost every play, I don't want a football game decided by whether or not that ref wants to call it by the book or use his discretion based on game situation.


You're misinterpreting that. I was replying to Fatman's assertion that it should only be called it its important enough to the game. I am definitely not in favor of that. It should be called if it is clearly shown to violate the rules Ö unambiguously.
Wow  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/8/2019 10:32 pm : link
Solid pass by Lauletta.
The young receivers looking real good!  
Simms11 : 8/8/2019 10:32 pm : link
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Wow! Fingertips!  
Simms11 : 8/8/2019 10:33 pm : link
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RE: RE: But by your definition  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/8/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14523694 AcesUp said:
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In comment 14523651 River Mike said:


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it truly will be matter of opinion subject to the officials opinion if it was important enough to the game to overturn. Sorry, can't buy it. if the replay is ambiguous or not quite clear, be conservative and don't overturn. But that one was clearly, unambiguously against the rules.



So we're putting more on the refs' plates when it comes to subjective calls. Spot fouls that decide games are now up to the refs to decide if "it's import enough to the game to overturn"? So you're saying the refs now can't be consistent and have to go beyond what they see on the tape and decide whether the call is "important enough" to overturn?

The refs get a lot of shit but the league doesn't do them any favors, this is another example. That call was obvious but you can find by the book PI on almost every play, I don't want a football game decided by whether or not that ref wants to call it by the book or use his discretion based on game situation.


The league really doesn't do them any favors. They had a ref seminar at the combine one year and I asked why they didn't simplify the rules to be less subjective and I was told - "You're asking the wrong guy. That comes from the top".

I would try and do two things if I were put in charge of the rules:
1) Put an emphasis on calling blatant fouls that directly impact the action or point of attack
2) Have less subjectivity in rules, the catch rule for instance

Calling a minor brush of contact at the 6 yard zone on the opposite side of the field on a 3rd and 18 should never be called.

The goal should be to eliminate game-changing calls, not be perfect.

Game flow would be so much better too
Kyle Lauletta having a fine game  
Bluesbreaker : 8/8/2019 10:34 pm : link
He could may have some value ...
TD Jones !!
Love it!  
Simms11 : 8/8/2019 10:34 pm : link
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Carlís got it wrong  
beatrixkiddo : 8/8/2019 10:34 pm : link
Tanney is the one auditioning for another team. Lauletta is Jones backup in another year. They gonna carry him. That was excellent work opening the route by selling his hips to the defender to fool him to cover the outside route.
4-way  
Bill L : 8/8/2019 10:35 pm : link
Qb controversy
Terrific  
AcidTest : 8/8/2019 10:35 pm : link
throw by Lauletta.
Great  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 8/8/2019 10:36 pm : link
Catch for the TD
Nice adjustment  
darren in pdx : 8/8/2019 10:36 pm : link
by Jones to make a play on that ball.
Kyle  
broadbandz : 8/8/2019 10:36 pm : link
showing he has that crafty touch
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/8/2019 10:37 pm : link
This is FUN.
Game means nothing  
Marty866b : 8/8/2019 10:38 pm : link
But it would nice to win.
RE: 4-way  
santacruzom : 8/8/2019 10:38 pm : link
In comment 14523730 Bill L said:
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Qb controversy


Maybe just 3 way!
Like that tackle by 33  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/8/2019 10:39 pm : link
Whoever he is :D
Hard not to  
NorthCountryGiantsFan : 8/8/2019 10:41 pm : link
get excited about the future...you can definitely see an improvement in the 2nd and 3rd tier players...imagine what another couple of good drafts could do
The talent  
jtfuoco : 8/8/2019 10:43 pm : link
at the bottom of the roster is just light years ahead of what the team was throwing out there the past 5 years
Carlock is another high motor guy......  
Simms11 : 8/8/2019 10:45 pm : link
Love to see good LBer play
Goodson is a thumper but looks a step slow  
Simms11 : 8/8/2019 10:46 pm : link
in reacting
RE: Carlís got it wrong  
River Mike : 8/8/2019 10:53 pm : link
In comment 14523728 beatrixkiddo said:
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Tanney is the one auditioning for another team. Lauletta is Jones backup in another year. They gonna carry him. That was excellent work opening the route by selling his hips to the defender to fool him to cover the outside route.


At this point none of us knows which of them will go, perhaps not even the coach. I'm leaning toward keeping Tanney. I suspect they might want the mix of Eli, a good looking rookie draft choice in Jones, and an experienced veteran in Tanney rather than a second year guy who's never taken a regular season snap.
Goodson had terrible coverage  
Simms11 : 8/8/2019 10:56 pm : link
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Goodson got caught up in a rub route  
crick n NC : 8/8/2019 10:57 pm : link
But he has to crash through that
Goodsen  
The72nd_stern : 8/8/2019 10:58 pm : link
i never knew why he started for us just looks slow. he cant even make plays vs 3-4th string guys
Tanney and Lauletta  
AcesUp : 8/8/2019 10:58 pm : link
are very much in a competition for 3rd QB and future backup QB. There's a lot of bullshit competitions hyped, this isn't one of them.
Yeah that Goodsen play was rough  
ChaChing : 8/8/2019 10:59 pm : link
It looked like he was there early, but pushed him fwd creating the separation right and sent him towards the goaline

Where within 5 yrds of LOS he should have pushed him into the backfield, allowing him to stay in better coverage while running to the SL
Surprised  
Marty866b : 8/8/2019 11:01 pm : link
Banks didn't mention Connelly. He obviously stood out tonight.
RE: The talent  
ColHowPepper : 8/9/2019 7:35 am : link
In comment 14523754 jtfuoco said:
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at the bottom of the roster is just light years ahead of what the team was throwing out there the past 5 years
My thoughts exactly...and they look like they know how the game of football is played...years past, it was just chaos
thanks for the laughs guys  
Jints in Carolina : 8/9/2019 7:52 am : link
this thread was fucking hysterical.
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