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Shurmur calls it right with Tanney

Andy in Boston : 8/9/2019 9:32 am
we've heard his reviews of him in the past 2 years....and most of us I think, scratch our heads.

Last night was the 1st real good look we've gotten at him, and its clear he's a pro. Handles the blitz well, is accurate, has some savy to him. There is a reason why he's stuck in the league for all this time. The kid broke all kinds of records in college. He can flat out play. Going to be interesting to see his decision between him and Lauletta. Technically you could let Lauletta walk and try to sign him on the P.S......my guess is he would get picked up though.
There are 3 more preseason games  
Giantology : 8/9/2019 9:33 am : link
Let's see how it shakes out before we declare him the #3. Last night was an encouraging sign though, and this looks like a good competition.
RE: There are 3 more preseason games  
Giantology : 8/9/2019 9:34 am : link
In comment 14524197 Giantology said:
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Let's see how it shakes out before we declare him the #3. Last night was an encouraging sign though, and this looks like a good competition.


And I know you haven't declared him the #3 yet, either, Andy. More of a #justsayin
Yep. Best thing for the Giants is they all  
Jimmy Googs : 8/9/2019 9:35 am : link
look good, compete and push one another and provide options...
If we are going to be fair  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/9/2019 9:37 am : link
He played extremely well last night. Lauletta looked good too, but I'd give the edge to Tanney.

Who knows what they have in mind,  
barens : 8/9/2019 9:38 am : link
but with 4 possible decent to very good QB's on the roster, Tanney might be the showcase player whom they hope to get an offer for at the end of the pre-season.
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arcarsenal : 8/9/2019 9:38 am : link
QB play was definitely a bright spot last night.

Eli notwithstanding since he only had 3 plays - but as we all know, Jones was pretty much perfect in his lone drive and Tanney did play well.
Tanney  
cjac : 8/9/2019 9:39 am : link
is what he is. He's a perfectly capable backup QB. There's no doubt the guy can throw the football, and he's been around long enough to know the game. if you're gonna lose your starting QB for a game or two he can win you a game.
RE: Who knows what they have in mind,  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/9/2019 9:40 am : link
In comment 14524211 barens said:
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but with 4 possible decent to very good QB's on the roster, Tanney might be the showcase player whom they hope to get an offer for at the end of the pre-season.


Maybe the Redskins will need a QB to replace that Haskins kid. (I joke, I joke)
Based on last night will have to see if Shurmur  
Jimmy Googs : 8/9/2019 9:41 am : link
moves the other guys ahead of Eli in depth chart...

I don't know whay to say about Lauletta.  
robbieballs2003 : 8/9/2019 9:42 am : link
I feel he had a horseshoe up his ass. He led a scoring drive topped off by a TD but he severely underthrew 2 passes. One was wide open on the right side of the field. The other was the TD. Don't let the commentators fool you. That wasn't a back shoulder throw. That was a poor throw and a great adjustment by the WR.
Lauletta  
LG in NYC : 8/9/2019 9:42 am : link
I like him. I want to like him.
His numbers looked good last night... but the arm is really bad, no?

he threw a few that didn't quite get to where they should have been... and on a couple KL was saved by great WR play (incl the TD IMO)

Obviously no final decisions should be made after 1 PS game, but Tanney definitely looked like the more complete QB.
RE: I don't know whay to say about Lauletta.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/9/2019 9:43 am : link
In comment 14524221 robbieballs2003 said:
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I feel he had a horseshoe up his ass. He led a scoring drive topped off by a TD but he severely underthrew 2 passes. One was wide open on the right side of the field. The other was the TD. Don't let the commentators fool you. That wasn't a back shoulder throw. That was a poor throw and a great adjustment by the WR.


Yeah, I have mixed emotions on those throws. On the first, he did have pressure coming right at him, but he recognized the rush and threw the ball to the right man (but the ball was low).

On the TD, was that good or bad throw? I'm not sure.
I do think he made good decisions overall  
robbieballs2003 : 8/9/2019 9:46 am : link
That is why I said I am not sure what to say about him. For years we have seen horrible preseason games where scoring was almost nonexistent so just discounting hks TD drive isn't fair to him.
It was  
crick n NC : 8/9/2019 9:46 am : link
A good throw if he meant it to be a back shoulder. What his intentions were we won't really know.

There wasn't any room to fit it over the top with the safety coming over. My thought is he threw a well placed ball accidentally
RE: RE: I don't know whay to say about Lauletta.  
jvm52106 : 8/9/2019 9:48 am : link
In comment 14524227 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14524221 robbieballs2003 said:


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I feel he had a horseshoe up his ass. He led a scoring drive topped off by a TD but he severely underthrew 2 passes. One was wide open on the right side of the field. The other was the TD. Don't let the commentators fool you. That wasn't a back shoulder throw. That was a poor throw and a great adjustment by the WR.



Yeah, I have mixed emotions on those throws. On the first, he did have pressure coming right at him, but he recognized the rush and threw the ball to the right man (but the ball was low).

On the TD, was that good or bad throw? I'm not sure.


Funny I saw something very much like that (was it good or bad) with L.Jackson of Baltimore. The play by play guy was like, look at that development from last year to this year, that pass was perfectly thrown to the receiver. Ray Lewis and Brian Billick both go that was a bad pass intended for the TE crossing the field and luckily caught by the WR down the field. The play by play guy goes, was it bad or was it to the receiver? Lewis goes, that was a bad pass!
Shurmur  
Lines of Scrimmage : 8/9/2019 9:51 am : link
Feel very good having him develop QB's.

I hope the Giants draft more later round QB's and maybe they can start spinning them into higher draft picks.

Passing stats were impressive last night. I am sure they will really emphasis the run game the next two weeks. Being able to effectively run and not just the explosive runs will significantly dictate this offense's potential imo.

Tanney is still young enough to be a backup for a few years so the competition should be which of these guys can come in if needed and win games the best and not draft status. Tanney may also be really good in the QB room and assisting the starter in prep.
Still feel Lauletta  
Dankbeerman : 8/9/2019 9:52 am : link
Needs to be a guy that has fully absorbed the offense to compete in the league. He hss to overcome arm strength issues but he does have the make up of a long term back up who could come in and win a few games if needed.

Taney is the guy you want behind Jones though when Eli is gone. someone needs to be the vet he can go to.

Best fit for 2020 Is Jones/Tanney/Lauletta. And hopefully 2021 just Jones/Lauletta.

How we get through this year with all 4 will take creativity if nobody gets IR'ed. May KL to PS, Maybe just cut Tanney and hope he stays on the couch next to the phone

Tanney played well, but what do you really need from a #3?  
sb from NYT Forum : 8/9/2019 9:59 am : link
Jones will be #2 so realistically will Tanney do anything for the team as the #3?

I'd just as soon keep Lauletta as the #3. He's shown flashes and may pan out as a good, cheap backup.
Tanney is 32 and what you see is what you get  
Marty in Albany : 8/9/2019 10:01 am : link
Lauletta is 24 and has not played (or practiced in camp!!) very much. Who knows what his upside is? He could become very good, or he could fail.

Neither played with, or against starters. Both are under contract and could be traded for a player we need. We'll see how good Shurmur is at predicting the future.

The next 3 games have suddenly become very interesting.
RE: Based on last night will have to see if Shurmur  
Carson53 : 8/9/2019 10:11 am : link
In comment 14524218 Jimmy Googs said:
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moves the other guys ahead of Eli in depth chart...
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Yeah right. Maybe later in the season, I'm all in.
RE: Tanney  
Carson53 : 8/9/2019 10:13 am : link
In comment 14524213 cjac said:
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is what he is. He's a perfectly capable backup QB. There's no doubt the guy can throw the football, and he's been around long enough to know the game. if you're gonna lose your starting QB for a game or two he can win you a game.
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How do you know he can win you a game, he has played in one
game briefly...in his entire career. Lets not get too excited, he is playing against backups.
RE: If we are going to be fair  
DavidinBMNY : 8/9/2019 10:22 am : link
In comment 14524209 Eric from BBI said:
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He played extremely well last night. Lauletta looked good too, but I'd give the edge to Tanney.
Lauletta in a tie I think it goes to Tanney based on his veteran experience and Shurmer's like of him , plus the contract they gave him showed commitment. Lauletta has to make this a really hard decision to stick. However, if Lauletta plays exceptionally well, who knows - they could keep 4 qbs at least to start the season.
FWIW I thought the drop off after Jones left the game was  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/9/2019 10:22 am : link
palpable; neither Tanney not Lauletta are NFL starting caliber QBs in any way.

If you think otherwise, you saw something else other than what I saw...

It was a combination of everything a QB is supposed to do that drew my criticism of both of them: too slow to read and react, too weak in the arm, not accurate enough.

A perfect example of this was one roll out to the right side on a 3rd and 3 play, where the deep receiver on that side was one on one with a safety and poorly covered. Eli unloads that ball in a heartbeat to the deep WR. Tanney, or it might have been Lauletta by that point but I'm pretty sure Tanney, held the ball and ran for a first down.

Awful decision.

The advantage of being at the game is you can see that mistake easily, whereas a camera following the QB wouldn't show you the deep receiver wide open.
RE: FWIW I thought the drop off after Jones left the game was  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 8/9/2019 10:49 am : link
In comment 14524307 BlueLou'sBack said:
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A perfect example of this was one roll out to the right side on a 3rd and 3 play, where the deep receiver on that side was one on one with a safety and poorly covered. Eli unloads that ball in a heartbeat to the deep WR. Tanney, or it might have been Lauletta by that point but I'm pretty sure Tanney, held the ball and ran for a first down.

Awful decision.

It was obvious on TV as well and talked about by the announcers. That said, not sure it was an awful decision as it was 3rd down and there was no chance of him not picking up the 1st down running it, while throwing the ball could have result in a bad pass or dropped ball.
Jones  
PaulN : 8/9/2019 11:30 am : link
With Tanney next year is what was my thought. Shurmur has always liked him.
RE: I do think he made good decisions overall  
NYG007 : 8/9/2019 11:35 am : link
In comment 14524231 robbieballs2003 said:
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That is why I said I am not sure what to say about him. For years we have seen horrible preseason games where scoring was almost nonexistent so just discounting hks TD drive isn't fair to him.


Agreed and that ball just flat died on the TD. Kyle doesn't have the arm strength nor accuracy for me to be a capable NFL backup.

I also don't think we need to carry 3 qbs. However, Tanny can clearly play as a backup. He just is not needed.
I ve liked Tanney  
joeinpa : 8/9/2019 1:09 pm : link
Since he became a Giant. Never understood the know it all dismissal of him by some fans.

He should be on the roster and back up Jones next season
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