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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/9/2019 10:58 am
Charley Casserly
@CharleyCasserly
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Daniel Jones @Giants
had the best vision and anticipation of any QB in this year’s Draft. On his TD pass he shows it by throwing the ball at the right moment so the defender has no chance to make a play on the.ball. Impressive debut @DukeFOOTBALL
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https://twitter.com/CharleyCasserly/status/1159789025995251712 - ( New Window )
I guess those aren't importan traits since  
ZogZerg : 8/9/2019 11:01 am : link
picking him at #6 was WAY to high for him....
Casserly has always been positive  
Bill L : 8/9/2019 11:03 am : link
Has anyone heard what the people who royally ripped the pick on draft night had to say?
I listen toCharlie  
5BowlsSoon : 8/9/2019 11:05 am : link
The man Has great wisdom...
RE: Casserly has always been positive  
ZogZerg : 8/9/2019 11:07 am : link
In comment 14524459 Bill L said:
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Has anyone heard what the people who royally ripped the pick on draft night had to say?


Yeah, some are doubling down - meaningless, yada yada. Others are deflecting - now claiming that Shurmur never wanted to draft DJ. And then I'm sure there will be plenty that will deny that made negative comments and were fine with the pick.
Didn't people  
McNally's_Nuts : 8/9/2019 11:07 am : link
say that his anticipation left much to be desired?

WTF. How can their be SO many polarizing opinions on this kid?
Jones  
Pete in MD : 8/9/2019 11:07 am : link
also was asked about this play in the post-game press conference. He read the coverage and threw it to the pylon. I think that's important too. It wasn't just a lucky guess.
Vision as well.  
McNally's_Nuts : 8/9/2019 11:08 am : link
I read Sy's comments and said. he lacked both.

I know Casserly is borderline senile but this is weird.
RE: Didn't people  
ZogZerg : 8/9/2019 11:10 am : link
In comment 14524472 McNally's_Nuts said:
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say that his anticipation left much to be desired?

WTF. How can their be SO many polarizing opinions on this kid?


Because people are stupid and lazy. They hear one take, see one clip and make up their opinion. Then the flock of morons follow in step. Then they have an agenda against DG since he traded OBJ after saying he didn't sign him to trade him.
RE: Didn't people  
Brown Recluse : 8/9/2019 11:12 am : link
In comment 14524472 McNally's_Nuts said:
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say that his anticipation left much to be desired?

WTF. How can their be SO many polarizing opinions on this kid?


Because a lot of people want to sound smart without putting in the work, so they regurgitate what someone else says and so on and so forth.

I gaurantee you half of these Twitter media nitwits and draft "experts" really have no idea what the hell they're looking at when they "scout" a player.
RE: Vision as well.  
ron mexico : 8/9/2019 11:13 am : link
In comment 14524475 McNally's_Nuts said:
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I read Sy's comments and said. he lacked both.

I know Casserly is borderline senile but this is weird.


yeah, Sy wasn't alone. I remember a few scouts saying he would wait for his receivers to get open vs throwing them open. That he would pat the ball an extra time before throwing. With video to back it up.

Whatever. I'm happy he didn't show those traits last night and hopefully he can build on this performance next week

RE: RE: Didn't people  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/9/2019 11:16 am : link
In comment 14524485 Brown Recluse said:
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In comment 14524472 McNally's_Nuts said:


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say that his anticipation left much to be desired?

WTF. How can their be SO many polarizing opinions on this kid?



Because a lot of people want to sound smart without putting in the work, so they regurgitate what someone else says and so on and so forth.

I gaurantee you half of these Twitter media nitwits and draft "experts" really have no idea what the hell they're looking at when they "scout" a player.

I'm sure most don't in any way scout.

I'm constantly in the film room and Kapernick is better than Joe Montana - Some idiot on ESPN
RE: Casserly has always been positive  
Toth029 : 8/9/2019 11:18 am : link
In comment 14524459 Bill L said:
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Has anyone heard what the people who royally ripped the pick on draft night had to say?

He played backups, vanilla, etc.

They won't talk about Haskins though.
They're sculpting the bronze bust right now  
Greg from LI : 8/9/2019 11:19 am : link
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RE: Casserly has always been positive  
Motley Two : 8/9/2019 11:20 am : link
In comment 14524459 Bill L said:
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Has anyone heard what the people who royally ripped the pick on draft night had to say?



If you want you can look up Chris Carter with "hot takes" so bad he's gonna have to start using a "fall guy" to make his statements for him.

Did you know Daniel Jones isn't 6'7"?
I would imagine..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/9/2019 11:21 am : link
it is difficult to scout QB's from middling programs - at least out side of physical traits.

It has to be an inexact science to figure out if the WR is making a play or if the QB is right, especially if drops come into play.
meh  
NoPeanutz : 8/9/2019 11:22 am : link
Cris Carter said that it was all Benny Fowler. Actually.
Max Kellerman  
McNally's_Nuts : 8/9/2019 11:22 am : link
said the guy had to be a hall of famer to be worth it.

I'd be willing to bet everything he never saw him play and just watched Youtube videos on his ipad.
RE: RE: Casserly has always been positive  
Toth029 : 8/9/2019 11:23 am : link
In comment 14524505 Motley Two said:
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In comment 14524459 Bill L said:


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Has anyone heard what the people who royally ripped the pick on draft night had to say?




If you want you can look up Chris Carter with "hot takes" so bad he's gonna have to start using a "fall guy" to make his statements for him.

Did you know Daniel Jones isn't 6'7"?

I briefly saw a clip on YouTube with him this morning discussing it.

You can tell it bothered him that Jones did well and Haskins played poorly. Goddam hilarious. 41-0.
RE: Didn't people  
bw in dc : 8/9/2019 11:24 am : link
In comment 14524472 McNally's_Nuts said:
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say that his anticipation left much to be desired?

WTF. How can their be SO many polarizing opinions on this kid?


Well, unlike most here, I watched many of his games and wasn't blown away by any of his physical attributes. Although I do like his athleticism, especially versus the statuesque Eli. And I still think there is a reasonable debate that he was more the beneficiary of playing under Cutcliffe.

I wrote this the other day. I can name other players I watched at smaller football schools - like Duke - who at least demonstrated plus-skills that would warrant a high pick/investment.

Elway played at Stanford when they weren't the Stanford of today. But his skills just busted through the TV. Roethlisberger played at Miami of Ohio. But his arm and play-making skills were tremendous. Steve McNair at Alcorn State. His throwing, movement, and athleticism were in another class. I can list more, but you get the idea.

So acting like taking Jones high was a slam dunk is, to quote my friend Fat-Mara in Charlotte, ponderous...
Kellerman..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/9/2019 11:25 am : link
embodies the worst of today's sports analysis.

Create an over-the-top take and then if the wildly high expectations aren't met, claim the pick was a bust.

Phil Simms isn't in the HoF. If Jones has a career run like Simms did (sans the injuries), we'd all sign up for that in a heartbeat.
RE: I would imagine..  
McNally's_Nuts : 8/9/2019 11:33 am : link
In comment 14524509 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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it is difficult to scout QB's from middling programs - at least out side of physical traits.

It has to be an inexact science to figure out if the WR is making a play or if the QB is right, especially if drops come into play.


Maybe I'll just take BDUBS word while he scouts from his barcalounger in his home?
To be fair..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/9/2019 11:34 am : link
I had the same observations about Jones as bw did.

I saw him play live last year against clemson and Wake and he was not impressive at all outside of his mobility.
I watched  
McNally's_Nuts : 8/9/2019 11:36 am : link
him play that bowl game, it was the first time I left my apartment since my mom passed last December.

I saw some nice throws, but I was also on my 5th jameson at 4 PM.

I know nothing but knew the Giants would draft him.
RE: To be fair..  
Greg from LI : 8/9/2019 11:36 am : link
In comment 14524534 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I had the same observations about Jones as bw did.

I saw him play live last year against clemson and Wake and he was not impressive at all outside of his mobility.


And UVA, hardly a powerhouse, owned him for 3 years.
Gotta hand it  
Giantophile : 8/9/2019 11:39 am : link
to Jones. I know its 1 preseason series, but he showed some guts last night with everyone outside the team licking their lips, ready to call him a bust 1 minute into his career. He shut some people up last night.
RE: RE: Casserly has always been positive  
NYG007 : 8/9/2019 11:44 am : link
In comment 14524499 Toth029 said:
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In comment 14524459 Bill L said:


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Has anyone heard what the people who royally ripped the pick on draft night had to say?


He played backups, vanilla, etc.

They won't talk about Haskins though.


7/11 starters for the Jets D were in on that drive. JONES IS A BACKUP BTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE: RE: RE: Casserly has always been positive  
Motley Two : 8/9/2019 11:44 am : link
In comment 14524517 Toth029 said:
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In comment 14524505 Motley Two said:


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In comment 14524459 Bill L said:


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Has anyone heard what the people who royally ripped the pick on draft night had to say?




If you want you can look up Chris Carter with "hot takes" so bad he's gonna have to start using a "fall guy" to make his statements for him.

Did you know Daniel Jones isn't 6'7"?


I briefly saw a clip on YouTube with him this morning discussing it.

You can tell it bothered him that Jones did well and Haskins played poorly. Goddam hilarious. 41-0.


Carter is pretty salty this morning.
Twitter thank you for banning me ....  
Bluesbreaker : 8/9/2019 11:56 am : link
Just reading the comments gives me heartburn .
Guys like Max Kellerman Ryan Clarke are just delusional .
If casserly said water is wet I'd wait for a second source.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2019 11:56 am : link
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I  
AcidTest : 8/9/2019 12:04 pm : link
also saw a lot of Duke games. His receivers dropped almost 40 passes, and his OL was poor. He was constantly running for his life. He's also mobile, reads defenses well, and is accurate. But has arm strength was mediocre, he didn't really have any "Wow" characteristics, and had some truly awful games. I didn't want him at #6 or #17.

I wanted to pass on a QB this year and build the rest of the defense. Allen was who I wanted at #6. I hope I'm wrong, and certainly believe the pounding he's taken since being drafted has been ridiculous. He's on the Giants. Let's give him a chance, and not call him a "bust" when he inevitably makes rookie mistakes.
RE: I  
Motley Two : 8/9/2019 12:08 pm : link
In comment 14524577 AcidTest said:
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also saw a lot of Duke games. His receivers dropped almost 40 passes, and his OL was poor. He was constantly running for his life. He's also mobile, reads defenses well, and is accurate. But has arm strength was mediocre, he didn't really have any "Wow" characteristics, and had some truly awful games. I didn't want him at #6 or #17.

I wanted to pass on a QB this year and build the rest of the defense. Allen was who I wanted at #6. I hope I'm wrong, and certainly believe the pounding he's taken since being drafted has been ridiculous. He's on the Giants. Let's give him a chance, and not call him a "bust" when he inevitably makes rookie mistakes.


I think it was 42 drops. Think they said that on the telecast last night.
Daniel Jones...  
M.S. : 8/9/2019 1:13 pm : link

...yes! But don't overlook the protection he received. He had a huge pocket and could have made a phone call before throwing the ball.
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