Charley Casserly comments on Daniel Jones (video)

picking him at #6 was WAY to high for him....

Has anyone heard what the people who royally ripped the pick on draft night had to say?

The man Has great wisdom...

In comment 14524459 Bill L said:

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Has anyone heard what the people who royally ripped the pick on draft night had to say?

Yeah, some are doubling down - meaningless, yada yada. Others are deflecting - now claiming that Shurmur never wanted to draft DJ. And then I'm sure there will be plenty that will deny that made negative comments and were fine with the pick.

say that his anticipation left much to be desired?

WTF. How can their be SO many polarizing opinions on this kid?

also was asked about this play in the post-game press conference. He read the coverage and threw it to the pylon. I think that's important too. It wasn't just a lucky guess.

I read Sy's comments and said. he lacked both.

I know Casserly is borderline senile but this is weird.

In comment 14524472 McNally's_Nuts said:

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say that his anticipation left much to be desired? WTF. How can their be SO many polarizing opinions on this kid?

Because people are stupid and lazy. They hear one take, see one clip and make up their opinion. Then the flock of morons follow in step. Then they have an agenda against DG since he traded OBJ after saying he didn't sign him to trade him.

In comment 14524472 McNally's_Nuts said:

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say that his anticipation left much to be desired? WTF. How can their be SO many polarizing opinions on this kid?

Because a lot of people want to sound smart without putting in the work, so they regurgitate what someone else says and so on and so forth.

I gaurantee you half of these Twitter media nitwits and draft "experts" really have no idea what the hell they're looking at when they "scout" a player.

In comment 14524475 McNally's_Nuts said:

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I read Sy's comments and said. he lacked both. I know Casserly is borderline senile but this is weird.

yeah, Sy wasn't alone. I remember a few scouts saying he would wait for his receivers to get open vs throwing them open. That he would pat the ball an extra time before throwing. With video to back it up.

Whatever. I'm happy he didn't show those traits last night and hopefully he can build on this performance next week

In comment 14524485 Brown Recluse said:

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In comment 14524472 McNally's_Nuts said: Quote: say that his anticipation left much to be desired? WTF. How can their be SO many polarizing opinions on this kid? Because a lot of people want to sound smart without putting in the work, so they regurgitate what someone else says and so on and so forth. I gaurantee you half of these Twitter media nitwits and draft "experts" really have no idea what the hell they're looking at when they "scout" a player.

I'm sure most don't in any way scout.

I'm constantly in the film room and Kapernick is better than Joe Montana - Some idiot on ESPN

In comment 14524459 Bill L said:

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Has anyone heard what the people who royally ripped the pick on draft night had to say?

He played backups, vanilla, etc.

They won't talk about Haskins though.

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In comment 14524459 Bill L said:

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Has anyone heard what the people who royally ripped the pick on draft night had to say?

If you want you can look up Chris Carter with "hot takes" so bad he's gonna have to start using a "fall guy" to make his statements for him.

Did you know Daniel Jones isn't 6'7"?

it is difficult to scout QB's from middling programs - at least out side of physical traits.

It has to be an inexact science to figure out if the WR is making a play or if the QB is right, especially if drops come into play.

Cris Carter said that it was all Benny Fowler. Actually.

said the guy had to be a hall of famer to be worth it.

I'd be willing to bet everything he never saw him play and just watched Youtube videos on his ipad.

In comment 14524505 Motley Two said:

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In comment 14524459 Bill L said: Quote: Has anyone heard what the people who royally ripped the pick on draft night had to say? If you want you can look up Chris Carter with "hot takes" so bad he's gonna have to start using a "fall guy" to make his statements for him. Did you know Daniel Jones isn't 6'7"?

I briefly saw a clip on YouTube with him this morning discussing it.

You can tell it bothered him that Jones did well and Haskins played poorly. Goddam hilarious. 41-0.

In comment 14524472 McNally's_Nuts said:

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say that his anticipation left much to be desired? WTF. How can their be SO many polarizing opinions on this kid?

Well, unlike most here, I watched many of his games and wasn't blown away by any of his physical attributes. Although I do like his athleticism, especially versus the statuesque Eli. And I still think there is a reasonable debate that he was more the beneficiary of playing under Cutcliffe.

I wrote this the other day. I can name other players I watched at smaller football schools - like Duke - who at least demonstrated plus-skills that would warrant a high pick/investment.

Elway played at Stanford when they weren't the Stanford of today. But his skills just busted through the TV. Roethlisberger played at Miami of Ohio. But his arm and play-making skills were tremendous. Steve McNair at Alcorn State. His throwing, movement, and athleticism were in another class. I can list more, but you get the idea.

So acting like taking Jones high was a slam dunk is, to quote my friend Fat-Mara in Charlotte, ponderous...

embodies the worst of today's sports analysis.

Create an over-the-top take and then if the wildly high expectations aren't met, claim the pick was a bust.

Phil Simms isn't in the HoF. If Jones has a career run like Simms did (sans the injuries), we'd all sign up for that in a heartbeat.

In comment 14524509 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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it is difficult to scout QB's from middling programs - at least out side of physical traits. It has to be an inexact science to figure out if the WR is making a play or if the QB is right, especially if drops come into play.

Maybe I'll just take BDUBS word while he scouts from his barcalounger in his home?

I had the same observations about Jones as bw did.

I saw him play live last year against clemson and Wake and he was not impressive at all outside of his mobility.

him play that bowl game, it was the first time I left my apartment since my mom passed last December.

I saw some nice throws, but I was also on my 5th jameson at 4 PM.

I know nothing but knew the Giants would draft him.

In comment 14524534 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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I had the same observations about Jones as bw did. I saw him play live last year against clemson and Wake and he was not impressive at all outside of his mobility.

And UVA, hardly a powerhouse, owned him for 3 years.

to Jones. I know its 1 preseason series, but he showed some guts last night with everyone outside the team licking their lips, ready to call him a bust 1 minute into his career. He shut some people up last night.

In comment 14524499 Toth029 said:

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In comment 14524459 Bill L said: Quote: Has anyone heard what the people who royally ripped the pick on draft night had to say? He played backups, vanilla, etc. They won't talk about Haskins though.

7/11 starters for the Jets D were in on that drive. JONES IS A BACKUP BTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In comment 14524517 Toth029 said:

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In comment 14524505 Motley Two said: Quote: In comment 14524459 Bill L said: Quote: Has anyone heard what the people who royally ripped the pick on draft night had to say? If you want you can look up Chris Carter with "hot takes" so bad he's gonna have to start using a "fall guy" to make his statements for him. Did you know Daniel Jones isn't 6'7"? I briefly saw a clip on YouTube with him this morning discussing it. You can tell it bothered him that Jones did well and Haskins played poorly. Goddam hilarious. 41-0.

Carter is pretty salty this morning.

Just reading the comments gives me heartburn .
Guys like Max Kellerman Ryan Clarke are just delusional .

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also saw a lot of Duke games. His receivers dropped almost 40 passes, and his OL was poor. He was constantly running for his life. He's also mobile, reads defenses well, and is accurate. But has arm strength was mediocre, he didn't really have any "Wow" characteristics, and had some truly awful games. I didn't want him at #6 or #17.

I wanted to pass on a QB this year and build the rest of the defense. Allen was who I wanted at #6. I hope I'm wrong, and certainly believe the pounding he's taken since being drafted has been ridiculous. He's on the Giants. Let's give him a chance, and not call him a "bust" when he inevitably makes rookie mistakes.

In comment 14524577 AcidTest said:

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also saw a lot of Duke games. His receivers dropped almost 40 passes, and his OL was poor. He was constantly running for his life. He's also mobile, reads defenses well, and is accurate. But has arm strength was mediocre, he didn't really have any "Wow" characteristics, and had some truly awful games. I didn't want him at #6 or #17. I wanted to pass on a QB this year and build the rest of the defense. Allen was who I wanted at #6. I hope I'm wrong, and certainly believe the pounding he's taken since being drafted has been ridiculous. He's on the Giants. Let's give him a chance, and not call him a "bust" when he inevitably makes rookie mistakes.

I think it was 42 drops. Think they said that on the telecast last night.

...yes! But don't overlook the protection he received. He had a huge pocket and could have made a phone call before throwing the ball.