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NFT: Yankees at Blue Jays GDT 8/9

Jints in Carolina : 8/9/2019 4:09 pm


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Bo Bichette (R) SS
Cavan Biggio (L) 2B
Vladimir Guerrero Jr. (R) 3B
Randal Grichuk (R) RF
Freddy Galvis (S) DH
Teoscar Hernandez (R) 1B
Brandon Drury (R) CF
Derek Fisher (L) LF
Danny Jansen (R) C

Sean Reid-Foley RHP
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Keep up the streak Jints!  
adamg : 8/9/2019 4:13 pm : link
You're on fire again.
What's stranger?  
BigBluesman : 8/9/2019 4:26 pm : link
This lineup or the fact that it doesn't even look all that strange anymore?
.  
arcarsenal : 8/9/2019 4:33 pm : link
What if I told you back on April 1st, that on August 9th, Gio Urshela would be in the 3 hole, and both Mike Tauchman and Cameron Maybin would be smack-dab in the middle of a lineup that leads the entire majors in runs scored - with the next closest team over 20 runs behind us (BOS) - and that the Yankees would be 37 games over .500?

Just wonderin'...
RE: .  
Del Shofner : 8/9/2019 4:37 pm : link
In comment 14524964 arcarsenal said:
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What if I told you back on April 1st, that on August 9th, Gio Urshela would be in the 3 hole, and both Mike Tauchman and Cameron Maybin would be smack-dab in the middle of a lineup that leads the entire majors in runs scored - with the next closest team over 20 runs behind us (BOS) - and that the Yankees would be 37 games over .500?

Just wonderin'...


I'd say ... don't Bogart that joint, my friend - pass it over to me
I would have been shown this  
Jay in Toronto : 8/9/2019 4:40 pm : link
in March as our August 9 lineup and I would have bet we are in the cellar
I love looking at this  
Greg from LI : 8/9/2019 4:41 pm : link
you have to conclude  
RasputinPrime : 8/9/2019 4:58 pm : link
that Thames has lived up to the hype. What our non-stars have done this year certainly cements the decision not to overpay for established FA position stars.
RE: I love looking at this  
arcarsenal : 8/9/2019 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14524979 Greg from LI said:
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I can't decide which part of it I enjoy more... the part where we're 37 games over or the part where Boston is 16 back.
What if I showed you that lineup, and in addition...  
manh george : 8/9/2019 5:17 pm : link
said that most of our starting pitchers either sucked, were mediocre, or were injured, and that we didn't bring in another starter before the trade deadline?

Or that right now, our 5 best players who aren't injured include LeMahieu, Urshela and Tauchman? (I would add Gleyber and Didi to the top 5.)
RE: .  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2019 5:19 pm : link
In comment 14524964 arcarsenal said:
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What if I told you back on April 1st, that on August 9th, Gio Urshela would be in the 3 hole, and both Mike Tauchman and Cameron Maybin would be smack-dab in the middle of a lineup that leads the entire majors in runs scored - with the next closest team over 20 runs behind us (BOS) - and that the Yankees would be 37 games over .500?

Just wonderin'...


I'd tell you no fucking way. But here we are.

'That's baseball, Suzyn.'
If you asked at the beginning of the year...  
M.S. : 8/9/2019 5:20 pm : link

...if we could win with this line-up -- without Stanton, Judge, Andujar, Torres, Voit, Sanchez, Hicks -- I would have said no fooking way.

Way!
What's Going On With Torres?  
looie : 8/9/2019 5:21 pm : link
We were told he was fully checked out, nothing wrong, he's back with the team, so how come he's not in the lineup???
Don't know if it's been posted on BBI yet,  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2019 5:26 pm : link
but Severino threw off a mound earlier today. Hopefully, everything goes smoothly and he's back in September. We shall see. At least he's moving in the right direction as of right now, though. Fingers crossed.
RE: What's Going On With Torres?  
BigBluesman : 8/9/2019 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14525037 looie said:
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We were told he was fully checked out, nothing wrong, he's back with the team, so how come he's not in the lineup???

I think its just caution. Hopefully Torres and Sanchez are both back tomorrow.
RE: Don't know if it's been posted on BBI yet,  
adamg : 8/9/2019 5:31 pm : link
In comment 14525045 Dave in Hoboken said:
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but Severino threw off a mound earlier today. Hopefully, everything goes smoothly and he's back in September. We shall see. At least he's moving in the right direction as of right now, though. Fingers crossed.


That's great news.
Sanchez back tomorrow  
Hsilwek92 : 8/9/2019 5:33 pm : link
...
I looked at that line up and saw  
section125 : 8/9/2019 5:34 pm : link
Gardy in the 2 hole. Then the rest of the lineup and thought, pfft, they'll probably win.
With Sanchez back tomorrow  
nygnyy274 : 8/9/2019 5:38 pm : link
I think they should keep Higgy up here and just DH Sanchez.
Brett Gardner is quietly having one of his finest seasons  
Greg from LI : 8/9/2019 5:41 pm : link
The guy a lot of people didn't want back this year, the old man who had a lousy season last year and struggled mightily early in the season, is now hitting .255/.334/.484 with 17 homers while playing his usual superb outfield. Still the best baserunner on the team too, only caught twice in 11 steal attempts.
RE: With Sanchez back tomorrow  
Greg from LI : 8/9/2019 5:41 pm : link
In comment 14525062 nygnyy274 said:
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I think they should keep Higgy up here and just DH Sanchez.


Why? He's the best catcher of the three.
Section, not to mention since July 5th Gardy is on fire  
adamg : 8/9/2019 5:41 pm : link
In 18 games:

22 H, 14 R, 6 2B, 1 3B, 5 HR, 10 RBI, and a .349/.414/.714 line.
Sanchez back tomorrow!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2019 5:43 pm : link
YES!!! This lineup is about to get better, which is a crazy thing to say considering how well they've been hitting, but yeah.
I read earlier that Gardy wants to play again next year.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2019 5:45 pm : link
Would you guys bring him back? Maybe they can go year to year on him. He's been playing well in the role he's been in this season. I wouldn't be against going year to year with him, as long as he's not asking for a crazy amount of money, which I don't think Gardy would.
btw, Sanchez's career numbers in August?  
Greg from LI : 8/9/2019 5:45 pm : link
.335/.399/.734. That's good, right? I wanna say that's good.
RE: btw, Sanchez's career numbers in August?  
adamg : 8/9/2019 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14525070 Greg from LI said:
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.335/.399/.734. That's good, right? I wanna say that's good.


But is he gritty?
I'm assuming they deal Frazier in the offseason  
Greg from LI : 8/9/2019 5:47 pm : link
So it depends on whether they want to carry 4 outfielders or 5, because it seems pretty likely that Tauchman has at least earned the opportunity to start the season in the Bronx next year.
Frazier has so much more value as a trade piece than he does in this  
adamg : 8/9/2019 5:50 pm : link
OF.

For me, the biggest question is what to do about Andujar. I LOVE his bat and his approach at the plate makes him even more valuable. I wouldn't be opposed to making him the permanent DH. But is that a wise move? Is he more valuable as a trade piece as well?
I could see trying him out at 1B  
Greg from LI : 8/9/2019 5:54 pm : link
He could DH some and play first some. As good as Voit has been, he's 5 years older than Andujar and an butcher in the field.
RE: I could see trying him out at 1B  
adamg : 8/9/2019 5:59 pm : link
In comment 14525084 Greg from LI said:
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He could DH some and play first some. As good as Voit has been, he's 5 years older than Andujar and an butcher in the field.


Do you think Eddy is gone after this season?
RE: Frazier has so much more value as a trade piece than he does in this  
RasputinPrime : 8/9/2019 6:07 pm : link
In comment 14525077 adamg said:
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OF.

For me, the biggest question is what to do about Andujar. I LOVE his bat and his approach at the plate makes him even more valuable. I wouldn't be opposed to making him the permanent DH. But is that a wise move? Is he more valuable as a trade piece as well?


Andujar is too good to move unless someone is going to gift us a future number one starter. I doubt it.

The defensive metrics don't love Gio any more than they did Andujar and i'd prefer they duke it out in the spring next year. With the injuries we had this year, we are going to need to avoid moving bats we are probably going to need at some point.

Similar for Frazier who I think has far more upside than anyone else who could help us next season. I'd much rather move Hicks but he doesn't seem to want to stay healthy enough to make getting anything for him possible.
Come on RP  
adamg : 8/9/2019 6:13 pm : link
Gio is by far a better defender than MA. It's not even close. If Gio can even close to maintain his offense of this year, it's a no brainer that he's the starting 3B.

And Hicks is a complete player. He's got GG potential. He's got pop, sees pitches, and works walks. You can't say all that about Frazier. I think you dump Hicks at your own peril. There aren't a lot of better CF in the majors.

Frazier's lack of fielding and professionalism counts a lot against him imho. I don't think he has a head for NYC. I think we may trade him and he may shine elsewhere and it still could have been the right move.
I should say  
adamg : 8/9/2019 6:13 pm : link
starting 3B, when DJ isn't in the lineup.
RE: Section, not to mention since July 5th Gardy is on fire  
section125 : 8/9/2019 6:40 pm : link
In comment 14525065 adamg said:
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In 18 games:

22 H, 14 R, 6 2B, 1 3B, 5 HR, 10 RBI, and a .349/.414/.714 line.


Oh, I'm a huge Gardy fan. To me, it was just funny the 6'7" 282 lbs Judge is replaced by 5'11" 190 lbs Brett Gardner.
RE: I'm assuming they deal Frazier in the offseason  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/9/2019 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14525073 Greg from LI said:
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So it depends on whether they want to carry 4 outfielders or 5, because it seems pretty likely that Tauchman has at least earned the opportunity to start the season in the Bronx next year.


Let's slow that train down a bit. Tauchman is 3.5 years older than Frazier and in almost the same exact amount of plate appearances has a few more doubles and a few more walks. Frazier has been the better hitter in high lev. situations while Tauchman obviously has added far superior defense. I wouldn't toss Clint quite overboard yet or elevate Tauchman (in terms of 2020 plans) either.

I'm not against trading Clint, but to elevate Tauchman just on this sample size is a bit much.
RE: RE: Section, not to mention since July 5th Gardy is on fire  
adamg : 8/9/2019 6:43 pm : link
In comment 14525124 section125 said:
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Oh, I'm a huge Gardy fan. To me, it was just funny the 6'7" 282 lbs Judge is replaced by 5'11" 190 lbs Brett Gardner.


Lol. Yeah it is a bit of a different look at the plate!
RE: Come on RP  
RasputinPrime : 8/9/2019 6:46 pm : link
In comment 14525100 adamg said:
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Gio is by far a better defender than MA. It's not even close. If Gio can even close to maintain his offense of this year, it's a no brainer that he's the starting 3B.

And Hicks is a complete player. He's got GG potential. He's got pop, sees pitches, and works walks. You can't say all that about Frazier. I think you dump Hicks at your own peril. There aren't a lot of better CF in the majors.

Frazier's lack of fielding and professionalism counts a lot against him imho. I don't think he has a head for NYC. I think we may trade him and he may shine elsewhere and it still could have been the right move.


My eye says the same thing re Gio. For whatever reason, he isn't even league average on D this year. We also didn't get a chance to see if Miggy improved this year and how much he can move that needle for next year.

There is alot that Hicks brings to the table but if I have to pick on for this team in 2020, i'm taking Frazier. He is faster, younger, more power and better bat-on-ball. He, like Didi, isn't going to take walks but if he can get his head on straight he's my guy. He's a potential AS. I'd be surprised if Hicks has another season better than he did last year. As we are likely to be riding him for years to come, I certainly hope i'm wrong.
Just checking the numbers: Urshela has 13 errors in 80 games  
adamg : 8/9/2019 6:52 pm : link
Andujar had 15 in 500 more innings in 2018.

Might be due to Urshela having much better range and more opps to make errors. But that is still a lot of errors.

But that seems to be why Urshela has a negative d war.

So, Urshela could probably improve his D. But I still take him in the field over MA.
RE: RE: Frazier has so much more value as a trade piece than he does in this  
section125 : 8/9/2019 6:53 pm : link
In comment 14525093 RasputinPrime said:
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In comment 14525077 adamg said:


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OF.

For me, the biggest question is what to do about Andujar. I LOVE his bat and his approach at the plate makes him even more valuable. I wouldn't be opposed to making him the permanent DH. But is that a wise move? Is he more valuable as a trade piece as well?



Andujar is too good to move unless someone is going to gift us a future number one starter. I doubt it.

The defensive metrics don't love Gio any more than they did Andujar and i'd prefer they duke it out in the spring next year. With the injuries we had this year, we are going to need to avoid moving bats we are probably going to need at some point.

Similar for Frazier who I think has far more upside than anyone else who could help us next season. I'd much rather move Hicks but he doesn't seem to want to stay healthy enough to make getting anything for him possible.


If you cannot see how superior Urshela is to Andujar in the field you need to find another sport to watch. Andujar is better at the plate, true, but as far as complete player, Urshela is better. However, let us see how the season plays out.

Frazier vs Hicks is tougher, but Hicks is a GG CF. Frazier is not even a league AVG corner OF. I think Frazier would be better at the plate, but not by much. Problem is who would be CF if Hicks was traded and Frazier kept. Gardy will be 36 next year. I'm not sure Tauchman is a CF. He appears to be a VG corner OF with speed and a decent, but not great arm. Judge could be CF, but that would beat the crap out of him.

In the end, I think Frazier is more expendable than Andujar.
Does anyone think Frazier is a starting CF in the MLB?  
adamg : 8/9/2019 7:00 pm : link
I don't see that. And, I don't see it as Frazier vs. Hicks, because I see them playing totally different positions. Frazier is a corner OF bat type. Hicks is Gardy Jr.

To me, if you have to juxtapose Frazier, it's Frazier vs. Stanton.
We are just fortunate  
RasputinPrime : 8/9/2019 7:03 pm : link
that Cashman stole Urshela and Tauchman so there is now a conversation to be had about 3B and LF. Competition is good and i'd love to see what Frazier and Andujar, both younger with higher upside, can do with the big club.
Reid-Foley  
RasputinPrime : 8/9/2019 7:13 pm : link
just stared down Gardy after K'ing him on 92mph heat.

Let's axe this donkey.
I like DJ leading off  
adamg : 8/9/2019 7:17 pm : link
just psychologically.

He singles and then the next two guys make Axel Foley look unhittable. But you know he can be had, because DJ just did it.
20 pitches already  
adamg : 8/9/2019 7:19 pm : link
Two out rally time.
RE: Reid-Foley  
section125 : 8/9/2019 7:22 pm : link
In comment 14525158 RasputinPrime said:
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just stared down Gardy after K'ing him on 92mph heat.

Let's axe this donkey.


Gardy helped him out swinging at 2 or 3 high pitches that were likely balls. Very unusual for Gardy.
some chasing going on there  
RasputinPrime : 8/9/2019 7:22 pm : link
he seems to have some whiffability.
No runs  
adamg : 8/9/2019 7:23 pm : link
But 27 pitches.

Foley hasn't thrown more than 92 in the bigs.
RE: RE: Reid-Foley  
adamg : 8/9/2019 7:24 pm : link
In comment 14525164 section125 said:
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In comment 14525158 RasputinPrime said:

Gardy helped him out swinging at 2 or 3 high pitches that were likely balls. Very unusual for Gardy.


Yeah. That was hard to watch. 3-1 and he swung at two balls.
So glad  
RasputinPrime : 8/9/2019 7:25 pm : link
we picked the wrong Bichette...
and Happ  
RasputinPrime : 8/9/2019 7:26 pm : link
is too chicken shit to go after the rookie.

*clap clap clap*
Nice play by Tauchman there  
adamg : 8/9/2019 7:28 pm : link
Big out
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