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DJ performance was impressive

G-crew18 : 8/10/2019 10:10 pm
What stood out was his command in the huddle and pocket presence. While some have pointed out the OL giving him a clean pocket, for the most part, I would like to point out that he never had such a compliment in college. Given the talent assembled at the skill positions DJ has the physical tools and athleticism to be a top 10 even top 5 quarterback. Many of the detractors like Chris Carter have tried to place a negative saying that the drive was against the 2nd team D. What needs to be recognized was the ball placement and timing on each of his throws.

Sadly for every positive, there is a corresponding negative. Eli has given the Giants franchise everything they could have ever wanted, being a great Giant. Now he must elevate his consistency and production or give way to DJ. I am sure he realizes that DJ produced with the same O while he went 3 and out. Gone will be the tolerance for conservative decision making, Eli needs to anticipate the deeper routes developing before bailing to his check down option.

In my view DJ would have had the same result against the Jets starting D. I think Eli realized that because he skipped post-game interviews. Hopefully, Eli will rise to the challenge making the most of this season. If not the leash will be rather short with his era coming to an end and the future ascending. The next 3 games will be of great importance because if Eli is not careful, DJ could win the starting QB job outright.
I'm happiest  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/10/2019 10:36 pm : link
That we have something resembling a competent starting oline that people can point too to h8 DJ8.
Eliís  
Nine-Tails : 8/11/2019 1:04 am : link
Performance in preseason for several years now has been lackluster. If DJ continues to light it up and Eli doesnít play well, the leash will be very short. I still think he starts week 1 barring injury, but a slow start and I think DJ takes the reins and doesnít look back
Iím not saying Eliís performance was great and DJs performance was....  
John in No Cal : 8/11/2019 1:09 am : link
Unimpressive. But they ran a draw on 3rd and 8 after a crappy running play for a loss. Iíd say two runs and one pass where the pass want on third down is hardly all on Manning. That said, Jones likes great in his debut.
Ugh terrible post  
John in No Cal : 8/11/2019 1:10 am : link
Apologies for errors.
No, you don't understand...  
Brown_Hornet : 8/11/2019 1:12 am : link
...DJ8 didn't more the TE prior to the snap.
Therefore, he is unworthy of the 6th overall pick.

#objectivity, #criscarter, #bbirealists, #lookatmebeingsupersmart, #plusskills
More...  
Brown_Hornet : 8/11/2019 1:13 am : link
...?
Move!
The second team D argument is garbage for a couple reasons  
BSIMatt : 8/11/2019 2:43 am : link
The Jets has 3/4 of their starting linebackers in the game, all but Mosley..but both rush OLBs were in the game as well as the other inside linebacker. Q Williams was on the field the whole time despite Leonard Williams being out and Q Williams might not technically be a starter for the jets just yet but give me a break he was arguably the consensus top player in the draft. Yes their secondary was backups but how much have Giants fans bemoaned the injuries to the WR unit..no shep, no Corey Coleman, no Slayton. Evan Engram wasnít on the field with Jones and no Barkley. This wasnít exactly the Giants entire front line offense out there..he had one completion to Tate and the rest of his looks were to Fowler and Latimer...wasnít like he was throwing to Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne out there. That point about Jones going versus the Jets ďsecond stringersĒ is overstated by some of the talking heads.
Listened to Giants Insider Podcast  
joeinpa : 8/11/2019 6:16 am : link
It was noted that on Eli s s one pass , a check down, that Rhett Ellison was open down field.

Pt being made was, this unwillingness to allow plays to develop down field has even a reoccurring theme with Eli for a while now.
He looked good but  
Jimmy Googs : 8/11/2019 7:27 am : link
how did you get into the huddle to notice the command?
RE: He looked good but  
Canton : 8/11/2019 7:46 am : link
In comment 14526566 Jimmy Googs said:
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how did you get into the huddle to notice the command?


Hernandez talked about it
RE: Eliís  
joeinpa : 8/11/2019 9:18 am : link
In comment 14526543 Nine-Tails said:
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Performance in preseason for several years now has been lackluster. If DJ continues to light it up and Eli doesnít play well, the leash will be very short. I still think he starts week 1 barring injury, but a slow start and I think DJ takes the reins and doesnít look back


Just heard a stat I didnít know existed EPA,( expected points added. )

When Eli was hit 6 times last year his EPA was negative. For other older quarterbacks like Brady and Brees it was positive. It was positive for most young quarterbacks as well.

During the podcast the point was being made that Eli has lost the patience to allow plays downfield to develop due to the pounding he has taken over past several years
RE: RE: Eliís  
Johnny5 : 8/11/2019 10:19 am : link
In comment 14526620 joeinpa said:
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In comment 14526543 Nine-Tails said:


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Performance in preseason for several years now has been lackluster. If DJ continues to light it up and Eli doesnít play well, the leash will be very short. I still think he starts week 1 barring injury, but a slow start and I think DJ takes the reins and doesnít look back



Just heard a stat I didnít know existed EPA,( expected points added. )

When Eli was hit 6 times last year his EPA was negative. For other older quarterbacks like Brady and Brees it was positive. It was positive for most young quarterbacks as well.

During the podcast the point was being made that Eli has lost the patience to allow plays downfield to develop due to the pounding he has taken over past several years

It's definitely concerning. In my view he still has the physical tools and mind to be great. But he has been pounded behind shit OL for so many years that his internal clock is shot. If he can't overcome that, DJ will have to be folded in sooner rather than later.
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