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Defenderdawg : 8/10/2019 10:34 pm

Schmeelk Film Review: Rookies get feet wet vs. Jets

Schmeelk Cover 3: Takeaways from preseason opener

Schwartz NYP: Daniel Jones’ unveiling couldn’t have gone better for Giants

Lombardo Giants stock Report: Corey Ballentine and Daniel Jones rising? Julian Love falling after 31-22 preseason win over Jets?

Dunleavy Giants’ 53-man roster projection without suspended Golden Tate: Who played their way in vs. Jets?

Dunleavy Giants roster bubble: Last four in, first four out and who is in the clear

Traina Takeaways From The Giants’ 31-22 Win Over The Jets

Stapleton The Record: NY Giants: 5 takeaways from 31-22 preseason win over Jets, including Daniel Jones' debut

Dan Schneier (@DanSchneierNFL)
8/8/19, 11:06 PM
3 Giants players who impressed me the most:
- Daniel Jones: as perfect of a preseason debut for a #NYG QB I can remember. Ball placement, trajectory, timing, anticipation, all there.
- Corey Ballentine: WR-like ball skills.
- Ryan Connelly: Quick, decisive, all over the field


Raanan ESPN NY: Culture club: Giants are buying what their coach, GM are selling


Dunleavy ‘Slow your roll’ | Pat Shurmur stomps out Giants QB competition ... for now


Dunleavy What to make of Giants’ Eli Manning’s 3 plays in preseason debut | Should he have thrown deeper?

Bondy NYDN: Daniel Jones takes New York by storm in first action for the Giants

Bondy NYDN: The Giants don’t owe Eli Manning anything

Eisen Shurmur: A good first step for QB Daniel Jones

Schwartz NYP: Daniel Jones debut moment shows why Giants’ plan is still Eli Manning

Schwartz NYP: Daniel Jones shows glimpse of Giants future with perfect first drive

Serby NYP: Daniel Jones’ time may arrive sooner rather than later for Giants

Lombardo Daniel Jones gives Giants a brief, but ‘perfect’ glimpse into the future | Report card

Lombardo Anatomy of Giants’ QB Daniel Jones TD drive that wasn’t as perfect as it looked (VIDEOS)

Matt Lombardo (@MattLombardoNFL)
8/9/19, 2:11 AM
I just re-watched every pass from Daniel Jones' first drive. The Tate completion over the middle & touchdown to Fowler were the type of throws top quarterbacks in their prime rarely make. Jones might force #Giants to make an uncomfortable quarterback decision if he keeps this up

Slater After Daniel Jones’ strong debut vs. Jets, Giants’ Pat Shurmur must open QB competition, make Eli Manning earn starting job

Slater Jets rave about Giants’ Daniel Jones’ ‘super composed’ debut: ‘He’s got a lot of potential’ | Will he start as rookie like Sam Darnold?

Eisen Daniel Jones impresses in Giants debut

RV SNY: Thursday's opener proves Giants have a QB controversy, whether they want to admit it or not

Duggan The Athletic: Daniel Jones wins over a skeptical group in his debut: The Jets defense

Shipgel NYT: Can the Giants Really Bank on Daniel Jones?
Team brass thinks he can be the next Eli Manning. Giants fans wondered why a Duke quarterback was worth the No. 6 pick. We talked to over 30 people who know Jones best to figure him out.

“Jones was an outlier at Duke, the only player drafted across his four seasons there. Teams considered that reality — as well as the 39 balls dropped by his receivers, most in the Football Bowl Subdivision, according to Pro Football Focus — when parsing Jones’s cumulative statistics: 59.9 percent completion rate, 52 touchdowns to 29 interceptions, 6.4 yards per attempt. His numbers paled against those of peers in the class.
Jim Nagy, the 18-year N.F.L. scout who last year took over as executive director of the Senior Bowl, said he thought the class lacked definite elite quarterbacks, but contained some who might eventually become stars. For Nagy, both Jones and the overall No. 1 pick, Kyler Murray, fell into the latter category. When he called 17 teams around Thanksgiving to discuss potential Senior Bowl rosters, it was “pretty consensus,” Nagy said, that Jones would go in the first round.”

Baldinger Analyzing New York Giants rookie quarterback Daniel Jones' first NFL action | Baldy's Breakdowns

Schofield BBV: On Daniel Jones, debuts and unbridled optimism

Dan Schneier (@DanSchneierNFL)
8/9/19, 1:07 PM
NFL Films guru gregcosell on RossTuckerNFL; pod on Giants QB Daniel Jones:
"He threw the ball very, very well. One thing I really liked is how quickly he snapped his head around off the play-fake and that's critical b/c the defense doesn't stay still." (on the Latimer PA hit)

"I really liked that little nuance of how quickly he snapped his head around."
Cosell did note that Jones had five "defined reads" while also mentioning the RPO look to Golden Tate. Essentially, these are easy pre-snap reads, but that's not nec. a bad thing. Goal is to create throws where he can find success in his first taste of action.

RossTuckerNFL mentioned how defined reads, etc is common in finding early success for rookie QBs. Cosell talked about how it's much easier to teach pure progression reads.

Cosell liked PA fake b/c Jones didn't do a ton of it in college at Duke when he was almost never under center. Cosell talked about how "snapping his head around" on the PA is something he noticed early w/ Peyton Manning.
IMO, Jones looked extremely comfortable from under center for a QB who played mostly from the gun

Nick Turchyn (@Tmanic21)
8/9/19, 1:13 PM
Some will want to criticize Jones for the predefined reads.

1- Literally the goal of offenses from Shurmurs' to McVay
2 - This is a big reason why the offense was so inefficient especially in early season '18
3- Its a walk before you run principle w/his pocket development

Nick Turchyn (@Tmanic21)
8/8/19, 11:19 PM
Taking a look at some Dan Jones...

2x2 set vs 6 MIB

Inside Zone Weak tagged with Double Slants (RPO)

Secures Throwing Lane for Slot (QB prob knows hes going to 1st Slant vs 1-High and the DB's leverage)

This was DJ's bread and butter at Duke

Nick Turchyn (@Tmanic21)
8/8/19, 11:30 PM
Solid throw on the vanilla Crosser

21p PA w/Split-Zone type Action

Z Crosser does not get carried, Jones reads depth of flat defender (Cloud-type look)

Couple of mini-hitches as he delivers but timing is okay

Nick Turchyn (@Tmanic21)
8/8/19, 11:42 PM
All execution here on 3rd down

11p 2x2 X Out into the Boundary from a Nasty (tight) split

GOOD Anticipation, ball is almost 1/3rd of way to Fowler as his head comes around

CB shuffles to widen, good example of timing working even when the DB had ok leverage

Nick Turchyn (@Tmanic21)
8/8/19, 11:51 PM
Hole Shot TD

3x1 set, but trade Y to 2x2 and NO one follows (Zone Indicator)

2-High safeties pre-snap that stays static, QB reads the flat defender and sees Zone Eyes

Like the decisiveness w/Corner-Flat Combo vs C2, he WANTS to make the D pay w/the Corner

Dunleavy Can Giants QB Kyle Lauletta create trade market in preseason? Worth call to rival Eagles?


Dan Schneier (@DanSchneierNFL)
8/9/19, 12:52 PM
One interesting note about the #Giants preseason game:
I can't remember a preseason in recent memory where all three offensive line units blocked as well in the passing game than last night's opener. The run blocking needs work but Oline depth may finally be there.


Nick Turchyn (@Tmanic21)
8/9/19, 3:37 PM
Did not study Chris Slayton , but ++Burst off the line to cut off the RB:

From 1-tech, Back Side Guard has trouble getting a piece of him. Kinda tough to "bite the knee" if a big moving body can get downhill

Hanging ur hat on 1 trait can earn a roster spot


Schwartz NYP: Once-promising B.J. Goodson fighting to be a part of Giants’ future

Lombardo How LB Nate Stupar is ‘selflessly’ helping change Giants’ culture

“With disregard of the possibility Connelly could push him off the roster, Stupar has leant the Wisconsin product advice and been impressed by what he’s seen so far.
“With inside linebackers, man-to-man coverage can be difficult for a lot of people," Stupar said. "Because I’ve had to do it a lot, so I’ve found out what works and doesn’t work. I try to teach him a little bit about sliding between coverages.
"There was a play the other day, [Connelly] slid, broke underneath the route, and the quarterback didn’t necessarily throw it there, but he was in position to make a play ... I was like ‘Yeah, that’a boy!’ It’s fun watching it click. Coaches, when you see guys succeed, it makes you really, really happy.”


Duggan The Athletic: How ‘Jackrabbit from The Muck’ became the leader of the pack on the Giants defense

Nick Turchyn (@Tmanic21)
8/9/19, 1:24 PM
Baker is a physical CB who remains that way through the top of routes/deep in the down. There will be a natural adjustment period as he throttles back to stay street legal. Bet many coaches would want to work w/throttling back aggressiveness rather than injecting it

Schwartz NYP: Giants burned by new pass interference review rule

Joyce NYP: Giants’ Corey Ballentine picks off pass in first game after tragedy

Nick Turchyn (@Tmanic21)
8/9/19, 1:10 PM
CB Corey Ballentine really impressed last night.

Press Cov: 2 Hand Jams WR Release

Briefly out of phase, has some juice to get back in (hip to hip)

Reads WR's eyes, naturally finds ball and then VERY GOOD Body control and Athleticism for Interception


Schwartz NYP: Giants’ Jabrill Peppers blows chance to make immediate impact


Dunleavy This Giants newcomer shoveled snow off fields, practiced under car headlights and paid bills an engineer just to get to tonight


Breer MMQB: This Cowboys’ Roster Boasts Depth That the Team Hasn’t Seen Since the ’90s

Roster depth is a good problem to have, according to Cowboys COO Stephen Jones. But the team feels the squeeze to capitalize now, before money becomes a limiting factor. Also, answering your questions on holdouts, the best rookies at training camp, top five AFC teams and more.

Brooks Who's the offensive engine of each team?

Pizzuta Sharp Football Analytics: Send Running Backs Down the Seam

Fitzgerald AZ Republic: Arizona Cardinals backups find limelight in 2019 NFL preseason opener

Robert Mays (@robertmays)
8/10/19, 5:46 PM
Quick Cardinals tidbit that others may have noted: Kliff Kingsbury wears the gameday headset during every practice so he and Kyler Murray can adjust to using it in their first NFL season. Makes a ton of sense. Others have probably done that. I’ve just never seen it in practice

McManaman AZ Republic: Report: Arizona Cardinals DE Darius Philon arrested after incident outside strip club

Ledbetter AJC: Schaub shines but Falcons drop 10th straight exhibition game

Ledbetter AJC: Falcons pulled Ryan, five others as healthy scratches against Dolphins over weather, field conditions

Walker Baltimore Sun: Five Things We Learned from the Ravens’ 29-0 preseason victory over the Jacksonville Jaguars

Preston Baltimore Sun: Ravens offense under Lamar Jackson is making strides, but don’t expect it to be revolutionary

Han Baltimore Sun: Ravens No. 1 draft pick Marquise Brown participates in first team drills, works to earn back his nickname

Preston Baltimore Sun: Ravens’ Michael Pierce near top condition after overweight offseason

Han Baltimore Sun: Lardarius Webb officially retires with Ravens, the team he credits for letting his ‘light shine’

Skurski Buffalo News: Ex-rugby star Christian Wade's touchdown run is lasting memory from Bills' win

Maiorana Rochester Democrat: When the opportunity arose to join the Bills, Kurt Coleman jumped at it

Newton ESPN Charlotte: Panthers' Curtis Samuel is 'light-years' ahead and gaining speed

Marks Charlotte Observer: Powerful pep talk: How Panthers RB Elijah Holyfield moved past ‘unacceptable’ error

Fowler Charlotte Observer: Speed to Burns: Panthers’ rookie edge rusher rockets to a fast start in preseason

Biggs Chicago Tribune: Brad Biggs’ 10 thoughts on the Bears’ 23-13 loss in the preseason opener to the Panthers

Wiederer Chicago Tribune: Rookie running back David Montgomery gives the Bears — and their fans — a taste of the future in his preseason debut

Kane Chicago Tribune: Elliott Fry gets a leg up on Eddy Pineiro in the Bears kicker competition, nailing a 43-yard field goal against the Panthers

Dragon Cincinnati Enquirer: Cincinnati Bengals running back Joe Mixon smiles at the thought of this season

Baum Cincinnati Enquirer: Bengals' Sam Hubbard remembers his high school roots as he prepares for his second season

Brewer Washington Post: The Browns are the most interesting team in the NFL this season. They are the league’s greatest experiment. Win or lose, they are destined to raise Cleveland to a level of relevance it hasn’t had since the franchise returned in 1999

Cabot Cleveland Plain Dealer: What happened at Cleveland Browns training camp Day 12

Labbe Cleveland Plain Dealer: The football is finding the young guys and more takeaways from the Browns' preseason win against the Redskins

Nate Ulrich (@ByNateUlrich)
8/10/19, 12:04 PM
Browns QB coach Ryan Lindley said Cleveland let Washington know beforehand Baker Mayfield and Co. would open game in two-minute offense. So opponent knew, and Mayfield still put together what Lindley said was close to a perfect drive

Lesmerises Cleveland Plain Dealer: Looking forward to the day Browns RB Nick Chubb is good enough to hold out

Cabot Cleveland Plain Dealer: Browns’ Antonio Callaway suspended 4 games by NFL for substance abuse: 'We’re disappointed in Antonio’ says GM John Dorsey

Cabot Cleveland Plain Dealer: Freddie Kitchens: Antonio Callaway ‘is a great kid’ but Browns won’t ‘put up with’ indiscretions

Patsko Cleveland Plain Dealer: Damon Sheehy-Guiseppi got his chance for the Browns, and he ran away with it

Evan Silva (@evansilva)
8/10/19, 11:28 AM
2018 No. 33 overall pick Austin Corbett played into the fourth quarter of Browns preseason opener as a second- & third-string center. Journeyman Eric Kush appears to have won the starting RG job vacated by the team’s trade of Kevin Zeitler

Evan Silva (@evansilva)
8/10/19, 11:33 AM
Browns offensive line continues to look like the team’s potential Achilles heel. They’re down to two quality starters in RG Joel Bitonio and C J.C. Tretter

Frank Schwab (@YahooSchwab)
8/10/19, 11:41 AM
& #8294;& #8234;evansilva& #8236;& #8297; I didn't love the Zeitler trade. Seemed to signal an organizational philosophy of devaluing the OL, which doesn't make sense to me. Especially with a young QB

Moore Dallas Morning News: Less is Moore: In Cowboys' preseason opener vs. 49ers, don't expect Kellen's offense to be very revealing

David Moore (@DavidMooreDMN)
8/8/19, 5:57 PM
It's a little hard to keep track, since, Randy Gregory, David Irving & Rolando McClain have been hit multiple times. But today's suspension of Robert Quinn is the 17th of a Cowboys player since 2014

David Moore (@DavidMooreDMN)
8/8/19, 4:15 PM
This was going to happen anyway given Randy Gregory's suspension, but the news of Robert Quinn's suspension drives it home: the Cowboys have had at least one defender suspended to start the season for 6 consecutive years

O’Halloran Denver Post: Flacco, first-team offense solid early in uneven Broncos loss at Seattle

Fredrickson Denver Post: Paxton Lynch gets measure of (preseason) revenge vs. Broncos with 2nd half scoring drives

Klis 9News Denver: Flacco, Lock play well, but Paxton Lynch leads Seattle to 22-14 preseason win

Klis 9News Denver: Sources: Broncos fullback Janovich out 6-8 weeks with pec injury, but tight end Fort suffers season-ending ACL tear

Birkett Detroit Free Press: Detroit Lions stock watch: So many poor performances, it's hard to pick just 3

Birkett Detroit Free Press: Detroit Lions' preseason debacle: Just cover your eyes, plug your nose and move along

Birkett Detroit Free Press: Report: Detroit Lions to work out quarterbacks Josh Johnson, Landry Jones

Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo)
8/10/19, 9:49 AM
The Lions are signing QB Josh Johnson after the workout this morning, source says. That makes a baker’s dozen of teams for Johnson in his NFL career. He has a shot to cement the backup job behind Matt Stafford following Tom Savage’s injury the other night

Levinsky Detroit Free Press: Detroit Lions rookie Will Harris' first NFL game experience 'a dream come true'

Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky)
8/10/19, 4:43 PM
Packers LB Oren Burks is believed to have a torn pectoral muscle, according to a source. More tests are scheduled to determine the course of action, but given that Burks was penciled in as a starter in the base defense, it leaves a hole in the D.

Wilson Houston Chronicle: Texans camp: Day 11 updates

Erickson Indianapolis Star: Insider: Preseason is about evaluation but the Colts get off to a slow start on all fronts

Erickson Indianapolis Star: Colts quarterback Andrew Luck still battling pain in calf, will miss next three practices

Phillip Heilman (@phillip_heilman)
8/10/19, 1:31 PM
Doug Marrone says he doesn’t think WR Marqise Lee and LT Cam Robinson will be ready for the start of the regular season. “We just can’t get them over the hump

Reid Florida Times Union: Jaguars waive RB Roc Thomas, sign rookie TE Carson Meier

Clark The Ringer: The Chiefs Have a Plan for Patrick Mahomes’s Upcoming Mega-Extension

“A lot of moves NFL teams make are designed to maximize their quarterback’s cheap contract by adding pieces around him. The Browns traded for Odell Beckham Jr. to pair with Baker Mayfield, for instance. The Rams have focused on adding pieces around Jared Goff. But the Chiefs’ offense is, for the most part, fine as currently constructed, so maximizing Mahomes means getting their defense to a level where it won’t drag down the offense.”

“Veach knows it’s harder to build a defense than ever before. This is of particular interest to the Chiefs because they were a few defensive mistakes away from the Super Bowl last year. “The challenge is that corners are relied upon because you just have to have so many of them,” he said. “You don’t see base packages anymore, we’re running [dime and nickel] most of the time. So now you don’t just have to find two corners, two safeties, you have to find four safeties and four corners and they are spread out. These guys aren’t just backups they are playing, they are going higher in the draft, harder to get in free agency. Acquiring enough to last the whole season is difficult.”

Klein LA Times: Blake Bortles will lead Rams’ backups in preseason opener against Raiders

Beasley Miami Herald: The good, bad and concerning from Brian Flores’ Dolphins defense in preseason opener

Deen Sun Sentinel: Brian Flores wants Josh Rosen to manage ‘gunslinger mentality’ following Dolphins’ preseason-opening win over Falcons

Salguero Miami Herald: Josh Rosen survives behind bad blocking in Dolphins debut. Needs to work with starters | Opinion

Tomasson Kirk Cousins sharp in only series as Vikings win sixth straight preseason opener

Tomasson Vikings backs run wild in preseason opener, and Dalvin Cook didn’t even play

Tomasson Vikings rookie TE Irv Smith has ‘special’ debut on birthday in hometown

Krammer Minn Star Tribune: Vikings tackles Shamar Stephen and Linval Joseph create a 638-pound barrier

Daniels Providence Journal: Bill Belichick on challenging pass interference: 'I have to get used to those rules'

Duffy Boston Herald: Patriots QB Jarrett Stidham shows poise and potential in NFL debut

Daniels Providence Journal: Jarrett Stidham leaves strong first impression in Patriots preseason debut

Reiss ESPN Boston: Rookie QB Stidham shines in first Pats audition

Guregian Boston Herald: Patriots young guns N’Keal Harry and Jakobi Meyers impressive in debut

Daniels Providence Journal: Patriots rookie WR Jakobi Meyers: 'I want to be great'

Daniels Providence Journal: Patriots rookie Chase Winovich looked like a veteran in his preseason debut

Monarrez Detroit Free Press: Chase Winovich starting to excel with Patriots, even if vets cut his hair

Van Valkenburg ESPN: Is Pats lifer Matthew Slater the last great gunner?

Just Saints drop preseason opener to Vikings 34-25

Teope Five takeaways from Saints vs. Vikings: Bridgewater shines, Harris energizes return game, more

Walker Teddy Bridgewater shows flashes of his old self in game against former team

Field Yates (@FieldYates)
8/10/19, 5:48 PM
The Saints have cut veteran WR Rishard Matthews (left squad designation), per source.

Teope Saints challenge new pass interference rule and lose; see what Sean Payton had to say

Terranova NYP: Mike Tannenbaum talks Jets’ Adam Gase hire, Baker Mayfield and Rex Ryan

Willis NYP: This is already not the same old Jets

Mehta NYDN: Sam Darnold flashes his star potential in Jets preseason opener against Giants

Willis NYP: Sam Darnold’s performance was so good it became forgettable

Costello NYP: Survivor Steve McLendon has become perfect mentor for Jets rookie

Rich Cimini (@RichCimini)
8/10/19, 5:01 PM
Another Mike Maccagnan draft pick is out. The Jets have waived CB Derrick Jones, a sixth-round pick in 2016. Only three of nine from the ‘16 class remain on the roster. They re-signed TE Nick Truesdell

Mehta NYDN: Sources: Jets working out former All-Pro Blair Walsh and other kickers as Chandler Catanzaro struggles

Jones USA Today: Opinion: The Raiders did their part — now it's time for Derek Carr to step his game up

Orr MMQB: Antonio Brown's Helmet Drama Is Just the Latest in the Raiders’ Chaos

Kempski Phillyvoice: Eagles training camp practice notes, Day 12: Andre Dillard's impressive attempts to get better

McLane Phil Inquirer: Eagles lose preseason opener, and lose Nate Sudfeld to broken wrist

Domowitch Phil Inquirer: Titans 27, Eagles 10: Five takeaways

Sielski Doug Pederson and the Eagles are happy to make the preseason completely irrelevant

Kempski Phillyvoice: Eagles 53-man roster projection after the first preseason game

Mullins Phillyvoice: Eagles will be without Lane Johnson and Dallas Goedert for the rest of the preseason

Domowitch Phil Inquirer: Could the Eagles be looking for a backup QB after Nate Sudfeld’s injury?

McLane Miles Sanders and the Eagles’ run game will have to wait another week to show off

Smith Phil Inquirer: Eagles’ tight end Dallas Goedert takes advantage of featured role against Titans

Murphy Phil Inquirer: Andre Dillard gave Eagles a glimpse of their future in NFL debut

Kempski Phillyvoice: Eagles trade OT Ryan Bates to the Bills for DE Eli Harold

Rutter Pittsburgh Tribune Review: Backup QBs, Washington help Steelers win preseason opener vs. Buccaneers

Fowler ESPN Pittsburgh: Mason Rudolph ready for Year 2 close-up with Steelers

Adamski Pittsburgh Tribune Review: Undrafted Steelers rookie QB Devlin Hodges draws rave reviews

Fittipaldo Pittsburgh Post Gazette: Steelers receivers are out to prove bigger isn’t always better

Adamski Pittsburgh Tribune Review: Steelers’ Matt Feiler pulling away with starting right tackle job

Branch SF Chronicle: Five 49ers to watch in preseason opener

Branch SF Chronicle: 49ers tight end Ross Dwelley keeps surprising — himself

Condotta Seattle Times: Seahawks to bring in QB Josh Johnson for a visit

Stone Seattle Times: Quiet night from Seahawks rookie DK Metcalf is a reminder to scale back the near-hysterical hype

Bell News Tribune: Deep review of Marquise Blair’s debut: Seahawks are thrilled. “He’s a heck of a player”

Stroud TB Times: A lot to like in Bucs’ preseason opener, even if it came against Steelers’ backups

Stroud TB Times: Jameis Winston is getting better as his throws get shorter

Encina TB Times: For Bucs running back Ronald Jones, the future starts now

Bacharach The Tennessean: 5 Titans takeaways from preseason win against Philadelphia Eagles

Davenport ESPN Nashville: How paintball made the Titans' linebackers a stronger unit

Carpenter Washington Post: Redskins lose preseason opener to Browns, showing big weaknesses and a few bright spots

Allen Washington Post: Redskins-Browns takeaways: Dwayne Haskins throws a pair of interceptions; rookie Jimmy Moreland stands out

Carpenter Washington Post: Redskins’ Case Keenum is battling for the quarterback job. At this point, it’s all he knows

Jordan Reid (@JReidNFL)
8/8/19, 9:21 PM
Right now, Dwayne Haskins looks like a QB that only started one college season. The games moving very, very fast for him. It’ll slow down eventually. These reps are valuable.


John Keim (@john_keim)
8/10/19, 6:56 AM
One thing on Haskins: he feels pressure but I don’t think he sees it. That’s a good thing. On the shot play, DE vs penn rolling at his feet. Good pressure. Haskins never sees. Eyes up whole time. Steps into throw that misses but a good shot play nonetheless. Good trait

John Keim (@john_keim)
8/10/19, 7:09 AM
Also seemed like Haskins and the O breaking huddle earlier in second half and giving him more time at the line. In first a few times to line later and not enough time to process. That said deep comp to Kidzy cams after real late alert call. Good throw of course.

John Keim (@john_keim)
8/10/19, 6:53 AM
One OL who jumped out in second half: G Wes Martin. Consistent base. Worked to 2nd level vs the backups. Steadily improved in camp. He and Christian solid together on some runs in third quarter. Wasn’t perfect but a good opening night vs browns backups.

John Keim (@john_keim)
8/10/19, 7:03 AM
With GC: u can see a base to build on and film will be good for him to check out tech/feet. No expert on kick steps but sometimes feet almost together. Hard to react. Hard to win if perp to the QB. Tough matchup early vs Garrett but doesn’t face that speed in camp. Can learn

John Keim (@john_keim)
8/10/19, 7:07 AM
With Flowers: same as what seen in camp. See the size. When base right etc? Effective. See the inconsistencies; lunge, bend at waist etc. new position. But those issues will stand out more if 71 not at LT

Keim ESPN Washington: Redskins hope sled designed with Bill Callahan's input pays off

Paras Washington Times: Trent Williams not planning to return to Redskins: report

Copeland Washington Post: Redskins’ Ryan Anderson looks to up his game: ‘I realized I wasn’t taking it serious’

Paras Washington Times: Special sauce: Collins may be ingredient Redskins needed for secondary's success

Copeland Washington Post: Redskins’ Jimmy Moreland, ‘The People’s Corner,’ stood tall in his preseason debut


PFF: PFF 50: The 50 top NCAA players for 2019

Means Cleveland Plain Dealer: Jeffrey Okudah gets comparison to All-Pro cornerback Jalen Ramsey: Buckeye Breakfast

Former Giants News

Wilkin Times Union: Former Giants coach honors fallen player at Saratoga
Tuggle, Parcell's horse, named for the late John Tuggle


Bell USA Today: Inside 'Peyton's Places': Acclaimed QB Manning takes entertaining walk through NFL history

Russo AP: NFL at 100: How college football became the pipeline to NFL

Turney PFJ: Coaches and Contributors—HOF Class of 2020

Turney PFJ: Who Are the Top Senior Defensive Tackles That Could be Considered for the HOF Centennial Class?

Rosey Grier

“With the Rams fearsome foursome, he was the “cop” or “piano player” who watched from draws, screens, and traps while Jones, Olsen, and Lundy got up the field.

Grier began with the New York Football Giants in 1956 and played there through 1962. As a Giant, he was a First-team All-Pro once and a Second-team selection twice and counting Pro bowls and All-Eastern conference selections garnered post-season honors in six seasons. With the Rams he was an All-Western Conference pick and Second-team All-Pro. It was with the Rams that he made history with the Fearsome Foursome. 

Grier was a big man for the day, 6-5, listed at 290 but was like heavier, especially with the Rams but had excellent quickness. It’s said that he taught the head slap to Deacon Jones, who then perfected it. 

Grier was a HOF Finalist in the past but his active candidacy was short-lived.”

Turney PFJ: The NFL's Top Core Special Team Players Ever

11. Reyna Thompson

“Thompson played eight seasons but made an impact of special teams making 85 tackles in 116 games. In 1990 he was All-Pro, made the Pro Bowl, was All-AFC and was voted the NFLPA NFC  Special Teams Player of the Year for the Giants. And 1989 may have been a better season for him”

23. David Tyree

“Tyree played six seasons and was called the best special teams player by Ernie Accorsi. he made 74 tackles in 83 games and blocked a punt in 2005 (and was voted to the Pro Bowl that year). Oh, and made a pretty good catch in a Super Bowl, too”

50T Michael Thomas

“A current player who has a chance to really move up. A fun player to watch run down and make tackles.”

Turney PFJ: Gino Cappelletti's HOF Credentials—Are They There?

DiRocco ESPN Jacksonville: As 'cows were dying,' Jaguars endured brutal first training camp

“There’s no way any coach could put a team through what Tom Coughlin did in the Jaguars’ inaugural training camp in 1995.
“First of all, they’d throw him in jail right now,” said Tony Boselli, the No. 2 overall pick in the '95 draft and one of the greatest players in franchise history. “The CBA [collective bargaining agreement] would literally throw him in jail if he tried to do what they did in ‘95. There’d be a revolt. All 90 guys would be picketing outside of TIAA Bank Field. It would never happen. You can’t even fathom it.
“And by the way, I don’t want anyone to have to go through that.”
As the Jaguars continue their 25th training camp and open their preseason schedule Thursday in Baltimore, some of the people who did experience it (except for Coughlin, who declined multiple interview requests) recalled what it was like.

Per the Chicago Tribune, the heat killed an estimated 718 people in 10 states (including 85 in Wisconsin). The Wisconsin State Journal reported that on July 14, 850 cows in Wisconsin dairy herds died, and milk production dropped by 25%. Highways and road joints buckled. So did railroad tracks.
The National Weather Service reported that in the three-day stretch from July 12 to July 14, the loss of livestock due to a heat wave in Iowa approached $6 million and included 4,000 head of cattle, 370 hogs, 1.25 million chickens and 250,000 turkeys.
Yet the Jaguars’ practice schedule didn’t change.
“[There] was a heat advisory,” Boselli said. “Keep all the animals inside. If you’re young or old, don’t go outside. Cows were dying.
“Yet the Jacksonville Jaguars and the 90 guys were out there twice a day for five hours a day in the heat and beating just the crap out of each other.”
There was no air conditioning in the locker room or athletic training room. Mike Ryan, then the Jaguars head athletic trainer, had huge barn fans brought into the training room to move the air around.
“There was a thermostat in the athletic training room, and the temperature went up to 90,” Ryan said. “The needle was buried. I couldn’t even see the needle.
“... We had guys almost every day go down with heat illness. And we were doing IVs faster than we could count.”
Making matters worse was what Ryan referred to as “an ice controversy.”
Not surprisingly because of the intense heat, the Jaguars kept running out of ice. NFL teams need a lot of ice. For physical therapy, to put in coolers for drinks, to put in water coolers on wheels for drinking. Because the UW-Stevens Point facilities didn’t have cold tubs, the Jaguars also needed ice to put in 50-gallon garbage cans for players to jump into after practice to cool down and help with swelling.
Every day, there was an ice shortage, Ryan said, and he got grief because of it -- ice costs money, and the additional demand was getting expensive. Ryan said he even had colleagues from other NFL teams tell him that members of the Jaguars’ football operations staff called them to find out how much ice they were using with their teams.
“Football operations were getting pissed because we going through so much ice,” Ryan said. “They kept fighting us. ‘You’re doing something wrong. You’re using too much ice.’
“I had to write out a document to justify how much ice we used each day.”

The NFL now has strict rules about how training camp practices can be conducted. Two-a-day practices are allowed, but only one can be in pads, and it cannot last longer than three hours. The second practice is limited to walk-through instruction. Total time on the field allowed each day is four hours.
Those limitations did not exist in 1995.
“Tom Coughlin could put us in full pads every day if he wanted to -- and he did,” Lageman said.
The Jaguars were in full pads for both practices each day, though Lageman said Coughlin wouldn’t consider the second practice fully padded because the players didn’t wear their football pants and knee pads. But they still went full contact, six days a week until the preseason began. Then they got a break: The day after games, they weren’t in full pads.
The next day they were, though.
“Guys were not prepared for the intensity of camp,” said Brian Sexton, the Jaguars’ play-by-play broadcaster from 1995 to 2014 and now the senior correspondent for “Tom put together a tough camp because he knew he was going to have to have a tough team. So his mentality was, ‘I’ve got to get them ready right now because they’re going to have to be tough because they’re not going to be talented. So they'd better be tough.’”
Meetings in the morning, two tough practices, meetings in the evenings and at night, with the final meeting ending about 15 minutes before bed check, Boselli said. One day off per week.
Not surprisingly, the players wore down quickly.
“One day had 13 guys out of practice with injuries,” Ryan said. “All we needed was a kicker over there, and we’d have had a whole team.”
Injured players didn’t get much of a break, either. If they were out on the field, they were wearing helmets -- completely snapped up. That included Boselli, who went to a practice on crutches one day after he suffered a dislocated knee cap and cartilage damage.
The only time the players didn’t have to wear helmets was when they were doing medicine ball exercises as part of their rehab. Ryan got Coughlin to relent by telling him it was a safety issue. Helmets restricted their vision while exercising, and Ryan didn’t want guys losing sight of the medicine balls -- which can weigh more than 10 pounds -- and getting hurt.
After 19 days of camp, the Jaguars finally played their first game. They lost to Carolina 20-14 in Canton, Ohio. Lageman said he didn’t play well and blamed it on the grueling camp.
“I had literally the deadest legs I’ve ever had in my career,” he said. “We practiced in full pads two days prior to the game. Then we got on a plane. And I remember watching the film after the preseason game, and I was embarrassed, but I knew what it was.
“I almost felt that I was so fatigued and so tired that I almost couldn’t protect myself, and I’ve never felt it before.”

Twenty-four years later, there is a grudging appreciation for what Coughlin put his players through in that first camp. It certainly made the team tougher.
Ryan believes the Jaguars’ five-game winning streak to close out the 1996 regular season and surprising run to the AFC Championship Game in their first playoff appearance might not have happened without that immensely tough first training camp. Rallying from a 4-7 start didn’t appear so overwhelming after what they went through in Stevens Point.
“Any time you get a group of men together that have extreme challenges and overcome a lot of it, when you come out of the backside of it, [you feel like you can overcome anything]," Ryan said. "That training camp in '95 built the foundation for a great run in '96.”
The Jaguars also might not have won the four games they did in 1995 without that grueling camp, Lageman said.
“I think we were very united in that we went through a lot together,” Lageman said. “Tough offseason. Tough training camp. We were a tough, physical, try-hard football team, but we weren’t going to win a lot of games [in 1995]. If people are being honest with themselves, they probably knew it.
“We still fought tooth and nail and fought and scratched and probably won some games we should have lost and were in some others that we probably shouldn’t have been.”
It's likely that nobody thought that at the time. They were elated when the team finally broke camp and returned to Jacksonville after the Aug. 10 preseason game in Detroit.
“I still remember sitting in the back of the bus in the parking lot across from the dorms getting ready to leave to go home,” Ryan said. “I said, ‘If I never see Stevens Point, Wisconsin, again as long as I live, I’ll be a happy man.”

Allen Washington Post: The lone holdover from the “Sonny, Sam and Frank” radio broadcast trio that provided the soundtrack for the Redskins’ three Super Bowl-winning seasons, announced his retirement before Washington’s preseason opener Thursday in Cleveland.

Allen Washington Post: Critics questioned Sonny Jurgensen’s addition to Redskins’ radio booth. It worked out okay

Giants Birthdays 8-10

Nick Greisen MLB D5-Wisconsin 2002 NYG 2002-2005 8-10-1979

Ryan Torian RB W- 2012 NYG 2012 8-10-1986

In Memoriam

Tommy Crutcher LLB/RLB TR-GB 1968 NYG 1968-1969 Born 8-10-1941 Died 2-16-2002

1968 Giants Profile

Texas Christian
"This will introduce you to Tommy Crutcher, who looks and plays just as tough as his name sounds. Not that Tommy is entirely a stranger to football fans in general and Giant fans in particular. They've all seen enough of him as a member of the Packer suicide squads in recent seasons, usually because he was the first man to get to the ball carrier and cream him.
As the Packers' No. 4 linebacker, he saw occasional duty backing up Lee Roy Caffey, and veteran observers confess they didn't know when a substitution had been made until they saw Tommy's number - that's how close in talent he's rated to Caffey. Now the Giants have him, the prize in an off-season trade that sent offensive tackle Francis Peay to Green Bay.
A bruising 6-3, 230-pounder, Tommy played his college ball at TCU and has been in the league five years."

-Jack Zanger, Pro Football 1968

1969 Giants Profile

“The linebacking must be better this year than it was last year if the Giants are going to be sound defensively. They have the bodies, only they were out of position most of last year while learning to play together. Tommy Crutcher should settle down in his second season in New York, and Ken Avery had better return to his rookie form of 1967. Henry Davis, the big new man in the middle last year, was as green as they come but he learned fast. The acquisition of Ralph Heck from the Falcons bolsters the linebacking, as will the presence of rookies Ray Hickl from Texas A& I, Byron Jones from West Texas State and Ken Riley of Arlington State.”

-Jack Zanger, Pro Football 1969

Maury Dubofsky G UDFA-Georgetown 1932 NYG 1932 Born 8-10-1909 Died 1-25-1970

“Hoya Football: “MAURICE DUBOFSKY (1909-1970)
Honorable Mention 1931
Despite a 4-5-1 season with losses to Michigan State and Boston College, Georgetown was awarded an honorable mention award for senior "Mush" Dubofsky, who anchored a Georgetown defensive line under the tutelage of assistant coach Frank Leahy that held opponents to under nine points a game.
Maurice Dubofsky was elected to the Georgetown University Athletic Hall of Fame in 1953.”

After his brief career with the Giants, he became a long-time Georgetown assistant coach...he coached future Giant Al Blozis:

“Georgetown University was at the height of its football success when Blozis entered. Under former New York Giant Jack Hagerty (assisted by two other former Giants, George Murtagh and Mush Dubofsky), the Hoyas achieved national prominance. During Blozis' freshman year, the team went undefeated and untied. In 1939, when Al first earned a letter, the undefeated streak continued, marred only by a 13-13 tie with Syracuse.”


Sal Marone G UDFA-Manhattan 1943 NYG 1943 Born 8-10-1917 Died 1-12-1975

NYDN (10-03-1943)

“Owen stated that his 30-player squad is '10',' “farther advanced than last year's team because of their intensive conditioning at Bear Mountain and should be in top shape for their opener with the Steagles in Philly, Saturday. The current squad is composed of holdovers; Mel Hein, Leland Shaffer, Ward Cuff, Will Walls and Frank Cope. Second year men include Bob Trocolor. Frank Lionel, O'Xoale Adams, Al Blozis, Re Seick. Huh Parker, Charley Avedisian and Len Younce. Heading the newcomers is Bill paschal. speedy triple threat from Georgia Tech, already being touted as the rookie of the year. His passing and running in the exhibition games have sparked the Maramen's offensie.’. Other first-year men on whom Stout Steve is banking are Emery Nix. most recent graduate of the aeriel circus at TCU. which has produced Sammy Baugh and Davey O'Brien: Dave Brown, Alabama back; and Sal Marone.

Joe Wostoupal C Purchased from Detroit 1929 NYG 1929-1930

Was All-Pro in 1929 after coming over with Benny Friedman and company from Detroit.

Born 8-10-1903 Died 7-31-1966
Emil : 8/11/2019 8:27 am : link
I don’t know what we’d do without you
RE: Defenderdawg  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/11/2019 8:29 am : link
In comment 14526587 Emil said:
I don’t know what we’d do without you

Hear, hear. A great service to us all.
Highly encourage everyone  
Emil : 8/11/2019 8:33 am : link
To follow Dan Schneier (@DanSchneierNFL) and Nick Turchyn (@Tmanic21)

Especially if you want more than simply Giants news. Been following them and listening to their podcast BigBlueBanter for well over a year now and you cannot beat the combination of their breakdown of scheme analysis, player traits, scheme fit, and the nuances of the game. It’s top notch.

I like certain beat writers (like Traina, Stapleton, Rock, and the Giants Insider for news and observations. But you can’t beat the analysis on BigBlueBanter.
RE: Highly encourage everyone  
Klaatu : 8/11/2019 8:47 am : link
In comment 14526596 Emil said:
To follow Dan Schneier (@DanSchneierNFL) and Nick Turchyn (@Tmanic21)

Especially if you want more than simply Giants news. Been following them and listening to their podcast BigBlueBanter for well over a year now and you cannot beat the combination of their breakdown of scheme analysis, player traits, scheme fit, and the nuances of the game. It’s top notch.

I like certain beat writers (like Traina, Stapleton, Rock, and the Giants Insider for news and observations. But you can’t beat the analysis on BigBlueBanter.

Nick posts here from time to time. I agree, their podcast is a must-listen.
Several of the beats pointing out the Eli Manning  
Jimmy Googs : 8/11/2019 8:57 am : link
failing to throw to wide open Ellison on his opening roll out play.

So the Jet's secondary says Jones put the ball in the endzone  
Blue21 : 8/11/2019 9:08 am : link
where only the receiver could catch it. Interesting.
RE: So the Jet's secondary says Jones put the ball in the endzone  
Emil : 8/11/2019 10:09 am : link
In comment 14526615 Blue21 said:
where only the receiver could catch it. Interesting.

Seems to be the opposite of Chris Carters take
DJ8 = The Perfect Storm  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/11/2019 10:40 am : link
Chris Carter = Dingus

That ball was perfectly placed.
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