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Deandre Baker getting MRI on his knee

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2019 11:54 am
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DeAndre Baker felt something with his knee during warmups. Heading for MRI to get checked out, per Pat Shurmur. No further details. #NYGiants
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Well...  
Johnny5 : 8/11/2019 11:56 am : link
... that's just wonderful!!!
......  
Klaatu : 8/11/2019 12:19 pm : link
It  
cokeduplt : 8/11/2019 12:23 pm : link
Seems we’re never allowed to have depth anywhere
Might be a precaution  
flycatcher : 8/11/2019 12:25 pm : link
Positive vibes are in order
Ah crap  
GiantSteps : 8/11/2019 12:31 pm : link
wait I meant shit
...  
christian : 8/11/2019 12:33 pm : link
Hopefully Beal can get on the field and start catching up, definitely need him to start producing.
Jesus H Christ  
Jints in Carolina : 8/11/2019 12:50 pm : link
Sick of these injuries every fucking year.
Another non contact injury. Are you kidding  
Blue21 : 8/11/2019 1:00 pm : link
me?
I hate when a major injury derails a promising rookies progress  
Canton : 8/11/2019 1:00 pm : link
Ugh
Waiting for the posters to say fuck training camp and preseason  
robbieballs2003 : 8/11/2019 1:01 pm : link
even though this was during warmups.
Any guesses as to when we'll find out what's up?  
GiantSteps : 8/11/2019 1:12 pm : link
Agh this is annoying news and I hope it turns out to not be terrible
Non contact knee injuries almost always end up being  
Canton : 8/11/2019 1:17 pm : link
The worse possible news.
Damnit  
MookGiants : 8/11/2019 1:19 pm : link
This guy is a huge piece to the rebuild puzzle. Need him to get valuable playing time this year so when the Giants have a chance to be good again he's got the reps to be a big part of the team.
How do we know it was non-contact?  
MookGiants : 8/11/2019 1:21 pm : link
Just because he "felt" something in warmups doesnt mean it isnt something that happened yesterday. It's not like he was in a drill and planted and went down/out. It's possible this happened earlier and he thought it was nothing but felt it again in warmups today.
RE: Waiting for the posters to say fuck training camp and preseason  
ChaChing : 8/11/2019 1:37 pm : link
In comment 14526791 robbieballs2003 said:
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even though this was during warmups.

F Warmups!
/fingers crossed  
Torrag : 8/11/2019 1:39 pm : link
If he didn't have significant swelling to indicate a major tear the odds are it is relatively minor ie not season ending.

Here's hoping for the best.
Injuries are part of the game, nothing surprises me anymore.  
BH28 : 8/11/2019 1:39 pm : link
In fact, i'd be more surprised making it through preseason without a significant injury. This is why depth on an NFL roster is so important.
Of course..  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/11/2019 1:41 pm : link
...
Dammit Gettleman, this is all his fault  
PatersonPlank : 8/11/2019 1:43 pm : link
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Replaceable position in this era  
giantsFC : 8/11/2019 2:00 pm : link
Football causes so many injuries. It’s almost absurd.

You just hope it’s not your teams QB, main offensive weapon (Barkley for us), top lineman or top pass rusher (not relevant to giants as they don’t have one).

I’d rather have a DB be hurt. Many teams plug and play these guys now.
Hopefully  
TommyWiseau : 8/11/2019 2:38 pm : link
It is nothing. Keeping my fingers crossed.
RE: Replaceable position in this era  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/11/2019 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14526839 giantsFC said:
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Football causes so many injuries. It’s almost absurd.

You just hope it’s not your teams QB, main offensive weapon (Barkley for us), top lineman or top pass rusher (not relevant to giants as they don’t have one).

I’d rather have a DB be hurt. Many teams plug and play these guys now.


They're plug and play because there are a lot of players who can play at mediocre level. It's as hard to find actually good corners as it is to find good offensive linemen.
RE: Replaceable position in this era  
christian : 8/11/2019 2:46 pm : link
In comment 14526839 giantsFC said:
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Football causes so many injuries. It’s almost absurd.

You just hope it’s not your teams QB, main offensive weapon (Barkley for us), top lineman or top pass rusher (not relevant to giants as they don’t have one).

I’d rather have a DB be hurt. Many teams plug and play these guys now.


The results for the 2018 New York Giants completely counter that line of thinking.
Time to dust off Beal  
DavidinBMNY : 8/11/2019 2:47 pm : link
and Send him in there...
Beal, Haley  
XBRONX : 8/11/2019 2:55 pm : link
and now Baker.
Results should be known  
Dave on the UWS : 8/11/2019 2:58 pm : link
by tomorrow morning I would think.
RE: RE: Replaceable position in this era  
WillVAB : 8/11/2019 3:05 pm : link
In comment 14526872 christian said:
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In comment 14526839 giantsFC said:


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Football causes so many injuries. It’s almost absurd.

You just hope it’s not your teams QB, main offensive weapon (Barkley for us), top lineman or top pass rusher (not relevant to giants as they don’t have one).

I’d rather have a DB be hurt. Many teams plug and play these guys now.



The results for the 2018 New York Giants completely counter that line of thinking.


The results for the 2018 Philadelphia Eagles don’t.
RE: RE: RE: Replaceable position in this era  
christian : 8/11/2019 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14526890 WillVAB said:
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In comment 14526872 christian said:


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In comment 14526839 giantsFC said:


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Football causes so many injuries. It’s almost absurd.

You just hope it’s not your teams QB, main offensive weapon (Barkley for us), top lineman or top pass rusher (not relevant to giants as they don’t have one).

I’d rather have a DB be hurt. Many teams plug and play these guys now.



The results for the 2018 New York Giants completely counter that line of thinking.



The results for the 2018 Philadelphia Eagles don’t.


With all due respect, are you really going to start on how unimportant secondaries are again, after the GM of the Giants completely gutted and reinvested in the secondary? Or are you going to go on again about how none of the playoff teams had plus secondaries, when many of them had multiple All Pro players.

The Giants management certainly didn't think winging it with an awful secondary with no depth was a good call. Thankfully their roster building didn't amount to; the Eagles lucked out for a few games after their secondary was decemated and scraped together a 9-7 season, let's try that.
Hope he is ok  
rdt288 : 8/11/2019 3:25 pm : link
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Those non contact injuries are the worst  
JerseyCityJoe : 8/11/2019 3:31 pm : link
Hope we dodge a bullet here.
update sort of  
CMicks3110 : 8/11/2019 3:33 pm : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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Hearing #Giants rookie cornerback DeAndre Baker sprained his left knee during non-contact individual drills early in Sunday's practice. He will undergo further evaluation Monday after today's MRI.
Nothing definitive yet on what the scan showed or the severity of the injury.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2019 5:00 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
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The early word from the Giants is that they are calling first-DeAndre Baker’s injury a knee sprain with more tests coming Monday. Not completely out of the clear yet though. Baker felt something during Sunday’s practice. #Giants
Pray  
BleedBlue : 8/11/2019 5:08 pm : link
For a knee sprain...he will miss some time but at least it isn't season ending
...  
christian : 8/11/2019 5:09 pm : link
The Giants are good about these things, but with how talented and young as he is, every reason in the world to be conservative with him.
Knee braces  
PEEJ : 8/11/2019 5:14 pm : link
(even light-weight ones) should be mandatory for practices.

This is no good..  
prdave73 : 8/11/2019 5:21 pm : link
They need this kid back for game 1. If this is a long term injury, it might be wise to look into a Vet. I like the potential of the other rookies, but its going to take some time for them to develop good feel for the game.
Bet Ballentine is opening day starter  
regulator : 8/11/2019 5:25 pm : link
undefined knee sprain is not devastating but could well be a 4-6 week thing.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Replaceable position in this era  
WillVAB : 8/11/2019 5:42 pm : link
In comment 14526897 christian said:
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In comment 14526872 christian said:


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In comment 14526839 giantsFC said:


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Football causes so many injuries. It’s almost absurd.

You just hope it’s not your teams QB, main offensive weapon (Barkley for us), top lineman or top pass rusher (not relevant to giants as they don’t have one).

I’d rather have a DB be hurt. Many teams plug and play these guys now.



The results for the 2018 New York Giants completely counter that line of thinking.



The results for the 2018 Philadelphia Eagles don’t.



With all due respect, are you really going to start on how unimportant secondaries are again, after the GM of the Giants completely gutted and reinvested in the secondary? Or are you going to go on again about how none of the playoff teams had plus secondaries, when many of them had multiple All Pro players.

The Giants management certainly didn't think winging it with an awful secondary with no depth was a good call. Thankfully their roster building didn't amount to; the Eagles lucked out for a few games after their secondary was decemated and scraped together a 9-7 season, let's try that.


What playoff teams had “multiple all pro” players in their secondary?

I never said the secondary was unimportant. I said building a pass rush is more important and the foundation of a good defense.
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christian : 8/11/2019 6:05 pm : link
In 2018, the Bears and Chargers had 2 and 3 All Pro selections from their secondary.

In 2017 both the Titans and Jags had multiple All Pro selections from their secondaries.
RE: ...  
WillVAB : 8/11/2019 6:13 pm : link
In comment 14527007 christian said:
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In 2018, the Bears and Chargers had 2 and 3 All Pro selections from their secondary.

In 2017 both the Titans and Jags had multiple All Pro selections from their secondaries.


So 2 of 12 each year and none made the Super Bowl. Sounds like a formula for success!
I'm grateful he self-reported  
RickInCharlotte : 8/11/2019 6:18 pm : link
If he'd continued to play, he would likely have exacerbated whatever damage there is.
I feel like this is going to be an ACL tear  
Brown Recluse : 8/11/2019 6:39 pm : link
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RE: I feel like this is going to be an ACL tear  
81_Great_Dane : 8/11/2019 6:45 pm : link
In comment 14527024 Brown Recluse said:
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Reported as a "sprain," but "strain," "sprain" and "tear" are all on the same spectrum. Fibers in the ligament are stretched and/or torn. So even if it's "just" a sprain it's something he and the Giants will have to manage going forward.
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christian : 8/11/2019 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14527010 WillVAB said:
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In comment 14527007 christian said:


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In 2018, the Bears and Chargers had 2 and 3 All Pro selections from their secondary.

In 2017 both the Titans and Jags had multiple All Pro selections from their secondaries.



So 2 of 12 each year and none made the Super Bowl. Sounds like a formula for success!


Well given that half of them made it farther than the 2018 Eagles, better odds than hoping a decimated secondary is going to get you there.
This is likely something they will strengthen  
DavidinBMNY : 8/11/2019 7:28 pm : link
And not operate on. They will be very conservative though. #NotDallas.
RE: This is likely something they will strengthen  
robbieballs2003 : 8/11/2019 7:43 pm : link
In comment 14527040 DavidinBMNY said:
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And not operate on. They will be very conservative though. #NotDallas.


You can strengthen muscles. You cannot strengthen ligaments.
RE: RE: I feel like this is going to be an ACL tear  
robbieballs2003 : 8/11/2019 7:44 pm : link
In comment 14527027 81_Great_Dane said:
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In comment 14527024 Brown Recluse said:


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Reported as a "sprain," but "strain," "sprain" and "tear" are all on the same spectrum. Fibers in the ligament are stretched and/or torn. So even if it's "just" a sprain it's something he and the Giants will have to manage going forward.


Exactly. Our best hope is that this is an MCL injury as that can repair itself. Any other ligament and that could mean surgery now or possibly later.
ESPN ticker says knee sprain  
WillVAB : 8/11/2019 7:55 pm : link
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christian : 8/11/2019 7:58 pm : link
Thankfully the Giants have something resembling depth in the secondary.

Ballentine, Haley, Jenkins (if finally healthy), Peppers, and Bethea is a great deal more compitent than the embarrassment trotted out there last year.
Crap hopefully it's not too bad ...  
Bluesbreaker : 8/11/2019 9:07 pm : link
I loved the pick we can't afford starters going down .
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