Mets Lineup
Jeff McNeil (L) RF
Amed Rosario (R) SS
Michael Conforto (L) CF
Pete Alonso (R) 1B
J.D. Davis (R) LF
Wilson Ramos (R) C
Todd Frazier (R) 3B
Joe Panik (L) 2B
Jacob deGrom (L) P
Nationals Lineup
Trea Turner (R) SS
Adam Eaton (L) RF
Anthony Rendon (R) 3B
Juan Soto (L) LF
Matt Adams (L) 1B
Asdrubal Cabrera (S) 2B
Gerardo Parra (L) CF
Kurt Suzuki (R) C
Anibal Sanchez (R) P
LFGM!!!
JD lets gooooooo
Once Gsellman put 2 on with less than 2 out they were likely getting a run. But yes I would have went to Familia over Wilson. Mickey went with a lefty because the next 2 hitters were lefties Soto, Allen, but left himself with a bad matchup vs. a clutch cabrera. When Familia is on the matchups don't matter and he was coming into this game at some point anyway, I would have given him the tough spot and saved Wilson to hopefully start the 8th clean. Familia and Wilson have both been bad this year and better lately, but we've seen Familia houdini literally dozens of times in big situations whereas we've seen Wilson do it once or twice maybe? In a game without Lugo we have to trust Familia (& Diaz) to turn things around, if they don't we aren't likely to go far.
But Mr RISP is up fwiw
Familia is the closest we've ever had to a guy who rises to the occasion and gets better in big spots. Every reliever gets beat once in a while, not very many have locked down 6 out saves on the road in the playoffs.
exactly - unless Panik gets on there is minimal reason to PH here. If Mickey hadn't used his entire BP already it would be a different story, but he has, so...
That would be the best move.
Mickey don't plan good. Or think good.
Because Mickey literally can't stop himself from making the wrong decisions. If he was going to PH there, he would have been smarter to use Syndergaard or Matz or Stroman. Or burning Nido. All would have had a better shot at tying the game than Altherr - who should be cut.
Definitely. But like I said b4, this game would have been mostly solved if JDG hadn't flubbed that out at first, or at least better if they saved the 3rd run. Really crappy one to L, would be a new way for JDG to get a ND / L
Indeed he does. Going forward they need to just let the best guys pitch. Lugo obviously has earned the big spots whenever he is fresh and I wouldn't hesitate at all to give Familia some chances over Diaz. Diaz needs to earn his role - whatever that becomes.
We played the same games with Terry Collins. Mickeys awfulness has made many people look back favorably at Terry Collins...not me. TC was another fucking awful manager.
Will this team ever get a capable manager? Probably not. Next buffoon up!
Billy Wagner was a HOF closer who had pitched in the playoffs numerous times and he had some trouble adjusting here and had some big blown saves. Same with K-rod. Diaz is a 24 year old who has had 1 really good season.
We played the same games with Terry Collins. Mickeys awfulness has made many people look back favorably at Terry Collins...not me. TC was another fucking awful manager.
Will this team ever get a capable manager? Probably not. Next buffoon up!
Comparing Collins BP management to Callaway's is wildly unfair considering the 2 years he had decent players, he had good BP performances (15-16). In the '15 playoffs Collins was basically perfect in his BP usage. Has Callaway ever been good for more than 1 game in a row, let alone 10+ against top teams?
Take 2/3 vs Atlanta and keep the momentum up.
2. the BP gave Washington leads in all 3 games
3. and most depressing the manager still consistently makes mind-numbing decisions. Putting Stroman back out for the 7th in game 1 was such an obvious bad decision. Moving Conforto out of the 3 hole after his game winner was more than a little questionable. And today? Where to start? Letting Avilan face 2 righties and then having to burn Brach. Going back to Gsellman + Wilson in a tie game in the 7th after both gave up runs in g1. Taking Familia out after his most dominant 13 pitches of the year with very few options left in the pen if the game went extras. Wasting 1 of his last 4 outs in a 1 run game on Altherr.
Getting 2 wins in a series played pretty evenly is a fair result but they can't ignore the reality that there are consistent reasons they lose and if they aren't addressed they will continue to leave winnable games on the table.
And of course you need 3 fewer outs of playing BP. Even if they don't recognize MC's weaknesses there, the general rule should be to use your best pitcher / SP as long as he can go within reason. Same idea keeping Familia out for a 2nd inning in this specific case (and PHing w/ shitty Altherr, wtf?). The Mick could blindly err on keeping SPs (or any pitcher that's rolling) in longer and get immediate better results
be used. Or, replace him.
be used. Or, replace him.
No I can't agree. JDG rolling, your best pitcher, but you feel the need to pull him when he has gas in the tank, esp given the BP issues? Familia, as erratic as he is, has a fantastic 1-2-3 8th nailing his pitches. But you replace him w/ equally erratic Diaz? Both are shaky game-to-game, so that's why you stick w/ the hot hand. Worst, when you DO keep a pitcher in it's your LOOGY against righties, who gets lit up again. Or Stro when he was clearly gassed
And if the AB was more the reason to pull Familia, your PHer better have a decent chance of getting on base for 1, and for 2 give you a better chance to win vs keeping your RP in another inning. Putting in .075 Altherr - worst hitter even compared to several pitchers - is that move? Worst move you could make. Hell iirc a few games ago he PH'd Guillorme for a pitcher...to have him bunt...in spite of the L-R matchup?
These decisions are awful and add up. Even if the biggest reason for today's loss was JDG / Ramos 1st inning errors, they could have been in better position to win. And really if it was just this game fine, but this has been all year even through the W streak. The Mick just hasn't been very good
be used. Or, replace him.
There were other guys on the bench he could have used 1 of his last 4 outs on better than Altherr. Including pitchers. Just because you have a wrench in your toolbox you don't need to swing it at a nail.
And if squeezing a second inning out Familia started getting into trouble in the 9th he still had Diaz. If Diaz came in with 1 guy on it wouldn't be ideal but that's a situation your closer needs to be able to deal with in a game that could be headed for extras.
I don't blame Mickey for Diaz giving up a homer run or sucking as much as he has. I blame him for not managing well. If the game got tied in the 9th, then what? I'll tell you what because there is only 1 answer - Chris Mazza. In the span of 9 outs Mickey had used 6 of his 7 available relievers. That is poor managing.
There's a difference between questioning a decision making process and a bad outcome. I'm sure the nats fans are pissed too but game 1 they had their closer on the mound with a 3 run lead. That's a relatively easy one to assign blame and it's not the manager's process but a player's extremely poor outcome.
Similarly Diaz had a bad outcome today - which isn't Callaway's fault. The issue was that he emptied his bp if the game went to extras with a string of bad decisions earlier (that also happened to lose the lead in the first place). And as always there's inconsistency in the decisions. Friday Stroman was getting tee'd off and he left him to face the top of the order in despite a full BP from a day off Thursday. Today JDG was cruising today but he pulled him out early knowing his BP was short without Lugo. It's like he just reacts to whatever most recently didn't work and does the opposite the next game regardless of any differences in the circumstances.
Diaz's slider just has zero movement. He simply cant find it. This has gone all year. The playoffs have begun now. He had his chances.
Good news is Mets have still had the second best bullpen ERA in baseball since the all star break so the pen as a whole IS performing much better.
Klentak ain’t far behind. Nick Pivetta was a top of the rotation guy according to these buffoons! Go sabremetrics!
Let's not overthink this, Mickey came in with a pitching coach background and in the 2 years he's been here every single relief pitcher has performed worse than they did prior. Diaz, Swarzak, Familia, Blevins, Wilson, Robles, all of them. He has already fired 1 pitching coach. The SP was great before he got here and they are still great (when the defense allows it).
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Mets third round pick Matthew Allan made his third pro start today:
2 IP, H, 0 R, BB, 2 K
He has allowed one run in 4.1 innings with six strikeouts.