Not sure what you were watching, but I think most people saw the exact opposite. There was absolutely nothing lacking in that department on any of the passes he threw vs. the Jets.
and the post about the Giants being the only team with 3 former head coaches where the Giants were their only HC job are two of the worst posts I've read on here in a long time.
“Time will tell. I think it’s pretty evident that Daniel Jones really knows how to play the position. A much better athlete than we all thought. He is very accurate with the football. So that’s a lot to build on. I know he’s pretty smart, too.”
“There was a question, ‘Does he have elite arm strength?’ No, he does not,” Simms said. “But, when he needs to, he can definitely turn up the velocity to make some really good throws, which all quarterbacks need in this league to really be great.”
I thought the complete opposite. The ball came out quickly and with some zip. Looking forward to seeing him throw the deep ball, but I thought Thursday night should put an end to all of the "lack of arm strength" talk.
In a tight window to the outside, 25 yards down the field—I can’t see how arm strength will ever be the issue with him. The remaining issue we have yet to see is how he processes an NFL field and pressure. Judging by Thursday night, I am really encouraged but obviously we will have to see more and under more adverse circumstances. And, of course, there will be bumps on the way. I am very optimistic, though, we have identified our next franchise QB.
“Time will tell. I think it’s pretty evident that Daniel Jones really knows how to play the position. A much better athlete than we all thought. He is very accurate with the football. So that’s a lot to build on. I know he’s pretty smart, too.”
“There was a question, ‘Does he have elite arm strength?’ No, he does not,” Simms said. “But, when he needs to, he can definitely turn up the velocity to make some really good throws, which all quarterbacks need in this league to really be great.”
I think it s been determined Jones has enough arm strength to make all the throws, although pretty sure His arm is not in Davis Webb s class when it comes to arm strength
“Time will tell. I think it’s pretty evident that Daniel Jones really knows how to play the position. A much better athlete than we all thought. He is very accurate with the football. So that’s a lot to build on. I know he’s pretty smart, too.”
“There was a question, ‘Does he have elite arm strength?’ No, he does not,” Simms said. “But, when he needs to, he can definitely turn up the velocity to make some really good throws, which all quarterbacks need in this league to really be great.”
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I agree with Phil.
You do realize that there is an enormous gap between “lack of arm strength” which was what your OP said, and “elite” arm strength which Phil was talking about, correct?
I think it s been determined Jones has enough arm strength to make all the throws, although pretty sure His arm is not in Davis Webb s class when it comes to arm strength
Would you want Webb over him?
I wouldn't say Eli has "elite" arm strength, he's a notch below the Favres. It's like "elite" arm strength pitcherz throwing in the 100 mph rang and Eli is someone who throws in the 95 mph range.
anymore than a golfer who has the furthest drive is the best golfer in the world.
It's about touch, timing, and accuracy. It does no good to be able to throw a football through a brick wall if no one can catch it or if it is out of reach of the intended target.
Besides "touch, timing, and accuracy" (the critical athletic requirements), it's even more about the mental aspect of the QB who has to read changes defenses in a nano second, understand every defensive pattern in order to change plays on the fly, and gain the respect of every player on the team who then sees the QB as his bonafide leader. Jones has that in spades.
It’s comical how people glorify the comparison arms and/or denigrate Jones’ arm. 3 years from now, IF jones is moderately successful, people will be saying what a great arm he has lol
The man is 6’5”...he doesn’t have a noodle arm. He just doesn’t have an elite rocket.
Besides "touch, timing, and accuracy" (the critical athletic requirements), it's even more about the mental aspect of the QB who has to read changes defenses in a nano second, understand every defensive pattern in order to change plays on the fly, and gain the respect of every player on the team who then sees the QB as his bonafide leader. Jones has that in spades.
...I saw Daniel Jones at a supermarket and the cart was stuck and he tried like 10 times but it was jammed and he couldn't get it unstuck and this little old lady came up and got them unstuck real easy and it was really embarrassing for him.
...I saw Daniel Jones at a supermarket and the cart was stuck and he tried like 10 times but it was jammed and he couldn't get it unstuck and this little old lady came up and got them unstuck real easy and it was really embarrassing for him.
Now his arm is too strong:
His fucking arm is too strong
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he has adequate arm strength for an NFL starting QB. Anyone who says he has anywhere near a plus arm is has never seen a plus arm. John Elway had a plus arm. Brett Favre had a plus arm. Aaron Rogers has a plus arm. Jones showed accuracy in his brief cameo which will be essential since he only has adequate arm strength.
Which pass in particular are you talking about?
Not sure what you were watching, but I think most people saw the exact opposite. There was absolutely nothing lacking in that department on any of the passes he threw vs. the Jets.
Weird thread.
and that says a lot, it's not a high bar.
“There was a question, ‘Does he have elite arm strength?’ No, he does not,” Simms said. “But, when he needs to, he can definitely turn up the velocity to make some really good throws, which all quarterbacks need in this league to really be great.”
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Hopefully sarcasm. Wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't, though!
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Not sure. Just generally speaking.
Montana didn't have elite arm strength so I'm not suggesting DJ can play and play well in the NFL.
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“Time will tell. I think it’s pretty evident that Daniel Jones really knows how to play the position. A much better athlete than we all thought. He is very accurate with the football. So that’s a lot to build on. I know he’s pretty smart, too.”
“There was a question, ‘Does he have elite arm strength?’ No, he does not,” Simms said. “But, when he needs to, he can definitely turn up the velocity to make some really good throws, which all quarterbacks need in this league to really be great.”
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I agree with Phil.
I think it s been determined Jones has enough arm strength to make all the throws, although pretty sure His arm is not in Davis Webb s class when it comes to arm strength
Would you want Webb over him?
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“Time will tell. I think it’s pretty evident that Daniel Jones really knows how to play the position. A much better athlete than we all thought. He is very accurate with the football. So that’s a lot to build on. I know he’s pretty smart, too.”
“There was a question, ‘Does he have elite arm strength?’ No, he does not,” Simms said. “But, when he needs to, he can definitely turn up the velocity to make some really good throws, which all quarterbacks need in this league to really be great.”
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I agree with Phil.
You do realize that there is an enormous gap between “lack of arm strength” which was what your OP said, and “elite” arm strength which Phil was talking about, correct?
It appears not.
Arc - I think you may have gotten arc'd or we are looking at a really dim bulb.
Arc - I think you may have gotten arc'd or we are looking at a really dim bulb.
I considered that after my first response - but seeing the follow up's by the OP, I'm thinking it's the latter.
That's a long trip when you can just read the game day threads.
I was wondering if this is something that he had a problem with at Duke.
HTH
HTH
or
TIA??
WTF?
Maybe instead of abbreviations, get a fucking eye chart
I was wondering if this is something that he had a problem with at Duke.
HTH
Did the Latimer pass lack pace and zip? Curious if you think that was lobbed, your answer will tell us a lot.
Kent Graham
Browning Nagel
JaMarcus Russell
It’s funny how everyone falls in love with arm strength. And yes, Graham had a cannon.
I think it s been determined Jones has enough arm strength to make all the throws, although pretty sure His arm is not in Davis Webb s class when it comes to arm strength
Would you want Webb over him?
I wouldn't say Eli has "elite" arm strength, he's a notch below the Favres. It's like "elite" arm strength pitcherz throwing in the 100 mph rang and Eli is someone who throws in the 95 mph range.
My guess was "hand to heart"
It's about touch, timing, and accuracy. It does no good to be able to throw a football through a brick wall if no one can catch it or if it is out of reach of the intended target.
Besides "touch, timing, and accuracy" (the critical athletic requirements), it's even more about the mental aspect of the QB who has to read changes defenses in a nano second, understand every defensive pattern in order to change plays on the fly, and gain the respect of every player on the team who then sees the QB as his bonafide leader. Jones has that in spades.
The man is 6’5”...he doesn’t have a noodle arm. He just doesn’t have an elite rocket.
Excellent placement too. Latimer telegraphed the route with his loopy "cut". Let's just say he's not Wes Welker.
Besides "touch, timing, and accuracy" (the critical athletic requirements), it's even more about the mental aspect of the QB who has to read changes defenses in a nano second, understand every defensive pattern in order to change plays on the fly, and gain the respect of every player on the team who then sees the QB as his bonafide leader. Jones has that in spades.
Hmmm. He has all that is spades? Really?
Based on what?
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My guess was "hand to heart"
Pretty close -
I kept coming back to
Half Ton Hammer
Now his arm is too strong:
His fucking arm is too strong
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Oh goody.
Watch it again tomorrow, it will seem even stronger than you thought.
I'm not?
Oh goody.
As if you have something better to do...
Preconceived notions.