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NFT: Orioles at Yankees GDT 8/12 Doubleheader

Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 10:31 am


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Hanser Alberto (R) 3B
Trey Mancini (R) 1B
Anthony Santander (S) RF
Renato Nunez (R) DH
Jonathan Villar (S) 2B
Pedro Severino (R) C
Jace Peterson (L) LF
Stevie Wilkerson (S) CF
Richie Martin (R) SS

Ynoa RHP
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RE: RE: No way they keep Andujar next season do they?  
Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 2:11 pm : link
In comment 14527753 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14527739 Jints in Carolina said:


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They certainly could. He's a fantastic hitter. I think people are too willing to just sell him off now.

The fit will be tough. You'd love to have the DH more open for him, but if the Yanks decide they want to pick up the option on Eddy, that's going to be nearly impossible. They'll need to use that spot for either of the 1B's or for Stanton... meaning a DH spot for Miggy full time is going to be hard.

It's not an easy decision.... but Urshela is really giving them no choice but to play him @ 3B nearly every day going forward.

But they're not going to just give Miggy away and I think they'll try to find a way to keep him if they can. Trading him this winter would be selling low, IMO... I don't know if I see Cashman doing that.


thanks.
19 pitch 4th  
adamg : 8/12/2019 2:14 pm : link
Hope he has an easier inning in the fifth.

He's not on a great pace.
I suspect Encarnacion doesn't return  
Greg from LI : 8/12/2019 2:14 pm : link
And Andujar takes that 1B/DH role
RE: 19 pitch 4th  
Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 2:15 pm : link
In comment 14527776 adamg said:
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Hope he has an easier inning in the fifth.

He's not on a great pace.


Hope to get 6 out of him today
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 2:20 pm : link
Valera seems like a really dumb player. Oy...

One of the few call-ups that aren't quite thriving.
Lol Valera  
adamg : 8/12/2019 2:20 pm : link
Dude just isn't the bright bulb
RE: I suspect Encarnacion doesn't return  
Nine-Tails : 8/12/2019 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14527778 Greg from LI said:
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And Andujar takes that 1B/DH role


I see it that way as well. But, if they have the chance at a young controllable high end starter, he would be very much available
Of all the baserunning errors  
bigbluehoya : 8/12/2019 2:23 pm : link
that's one that I don't mind as much.

2 outs, last guy in the order. trying to get into scoring position.

I can live with that type of aggressiveness.
If they don't exercise the option on EE  
bigbluehoya : 8/12/2019 2:24 pm : link
I hope they at least trade him. There's some equity in that option @ $20M.

I actually think they should exercise it and keep him.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 2:26 pm : link
Big DP. Pax should be able to go back out there for the 6 now - and hopefully get through it.
is there a more shocking MLB story in 2019  
bigbluehoya : 8/12/2019 2:33 pm : link
than Gio Urshela? Goodness.
Gio with another bomb.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/12/2019 2:33 pm : link
Incredible.
462 ft shot  
micky : 8/12/2019 2:34 pm : link
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this is crazy lol  
Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 2:36 pm : link
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I confess, I don't know what to say at this point  
Greg from LI : 8/12/2019 2:37 pm : link
Seriously - look at Urshela's minor league numbers. Even then he wasn't too impressive at the plate. .270/.306/.399 in 880 minor league games.

This is nuts.
According to the YES broadcast,  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/12/2019 2:39 pm : link
that Gio HR was the fourth longest HR by a Yankee this season.
It took until Jose Bautista was 29 before he put it together  
adamg : 8/12/2019 2:41 pm : link
Maybe Urshela is just one of those guys who took some time to reach his potential.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 2:42 pm : link
In comment 14527736 arcarsenal said:
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Gio cannot be stopped.


I guess I'll just quote my own post since I'm out of superlatives at this point.

What a fella.
Yeah, count me among those dumbfounded by Gio.  
bceagle05 : 8/12/2019 2:47 pm : link
I have no idea what is going on.
RE: It took until Jose Bautista was 29 before he put it together  
Greg from LI : 8/12/2019 2:47 pm : link
In comment 14527825 adamg said:
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Maybe Urshela is just one of those guys who took some time to reach his potential.


I've thought about that, but other late bloomers like Bautista hit for some power in the minors - .283/.374/.466 in the minors for Bautista, .328/.389/.542 for JD Martinez (who then didn't hit much until his fourth MLB season at age 27), .276/.366/.472 for Josh Donaldson.

Hard to find anyone who's made so dramatic a turnaround as Urshela.
Encarnacion is another one  
Greg from LI : 8/12/2019 2:49 pm : link
Exploded a hitter at age 29 in his 8th season, but hit .292/.354/.455 in the minors
it's the clear and the cream obviously  
Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 2:49 pm : link
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Urshela is definitely an anomaly  
adamg : 8/12/2019 2:51 pm : link
Just bizarre.
Looks like Voit will have off season surgey  
Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 2:51 pm : link
and could begin a rehab assignment shortly.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 2:51 pm : link
Gimmie a hug, Cam.
Maybin!  
adamg : 8/12/2019 2:51 pm : link
7-3

LFG
4 homeruns on the day already  
adamg : 8/12/2019 2:53 pm : link
and it's not even the 7th yet. And we have another game.

RE: 4 homeruns on the day already  
arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 2:53 pm : link
In comment 14527849 adamg said:
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and it's not even the 7th yet. And we have another game.


Too bad it's a losing strategy... all these HR's. Prefer singles.
closest I can come up with is Melvin Mora  
Greg from LI : 8/12/2019 2:54 pm : link
.281/354/.380 in the minors, had a few nondescript MLB seasons before having a pair of huge years at ages 31-32 for the Orioles, .317/.418/.503 in 2003 and .340/.419/.562 in 2004.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 2:59 pm : link
What about Brosius? Not a terrible comp for Urshela.

I don't think he was ever considered a big time prospect nor did he put up big minor league numbers, and it wasn't until his final year in Oakland that he really posted strong offensive numbers.

Had a really nice year for the '98 team, played a big role in the championship season... but then he tailed back off and he was done a few years later.
If this was Paxton's bad start after the two good ones  
adamg : 8/12/2019 3:00 pm : link
I can live with that. He needs to be better than a 6 inning 3 run guy though.
All these guys mentioned did for more than 1 year  
adamg : 8/12/2019 3:02 pm : link
Are there guys who do what he's doing for over 100 games and then come back to earth the next year?

It seems unlikely that he'll regress immediately.
90+ games isn't a super small sample size  
adamg : 8/12/2019 3:03 pm : link
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And I'm glad to see Kahnle put together a good game  
adamg : 8/12/2019 3:03 pm : link
He's been struggling lately.
Not bad....  
Greg from LI : 8/12/2019 3:03 pm : link
But Brosius still was a much more productive minor league hitter than Urshela.
RE: And I'm glad to see Kahnle put together a good game  
Greg from LI : 8/12/2019 3:08 pm : link
In comment 14527866 adamg said:
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He's been struggling lately.


He struck out the side in his last appearance
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 3:09 pm : link
There's actually not a huge difference.

They both played 11 seasons in the minors.

Brosius triple slashed .286/.360/.468 in about 2500 AB's.

67 HR, 359 RBI.

Urshela...

3387 AB's... .270/.306/.399

72 HR, 427 RBI.

There might be better comps for Gio - I just can't really think of many others. A unique career arc to be sure.
RE: RE: And I'm glad to see Kahnle put together a good game  
adamg : 8/12/2019 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14527872 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14527866 adamg said:


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He's been struggling lately.



He struck out the side in his last appearance


Thanks. I had a hectic weekend and missed those games. Glad he's back on track.
Mora is still the best one I've found yet  
Greg from LI : 8/12/2019 3:10 pm : link
Similar slugging (Gio's was actually a bit higher)
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 3:13 pm : link
Well, I'd take Mora... because Mora was still producing at age 36.

Had a 100+ RBI season - tied his career high @ 104 that year.

And as I say that... Urshela gets another hit.
3 hits for Urshela  
adamg : 8/12/2019 3:13 pm : link
A triple away from the cycle.
Didi getting his stroke back  
adamg : 8/12/2019 3:16 pm : link
If he gets hot...

8-3
Only negative  
black aces : 8/12/2019 3:17 pm : link
is Gary is hitting in the .220s and looks like last year. WTF happened
RE: If this was Paxton's bad start after the two good ones  
black aces : 8/12/2019 3:18 pm : link
In comment 14527859 adamg said:
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I can live with that. He needs to be better than a 6 inning 3 run guy though.


I couldn't agree more. If he pitches the next one like the two prior to this one I will feel pretty good about where he is at.
RE: Only negative  
Strahan91 : 8/12/2019 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14527902 black aces said:
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is Gary is hitting in the .220s and looks like last year. WTF happened

This is his second game back in like 3 weeks and he hit a home run in the first.
RE: Only negative  
adamg : 8/12/2019 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14527902 black aces said:
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is Gary is hitting in the .220s and looks like last year. WTF happened


I'll take 25 homeruns in 80 games from a catcher.

Especially since he hasn't been able to get consistent ABs going on the IL so frequently.
RE: Only negative  
Greg from LI : 8/12/2019 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14527902 black aces said:
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is Gary is hitting in the .220s and looks like last year. WTF happened


He missed a month and just came back yesterday. Jesus, relax.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 3:24 pm : link
Gary basically needs to hit a HR in every game to keep the detractors at bay...
This looks more like the Cessa we've come to expect  
adamg : 8/12/2019 3:29 pm : link
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WTF Cessa  
Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 3:29 pm : link
let's go.
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