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NFT: Orioles at Yankees GDT 8/12 Doubleheader

Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 10:31 am


BAL
Hanser Alberto (R) 3B
Trey Mancini (R) 1B
Anthony Santander (S) RF
Renato Nunez (R) DH
Jonathan Villar (S) 2B
Pedro Severino (R) C
Jace Peterson (L) LF
Stevie Wilkerson (S) CF
Richie Martin (R) SS

Ynoa RHP
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 3:30 pm : link
Ugh. Take him out
Cessa  
GruningsOnTheHill : 8/12/2019 3:33 pm : link
absolutely deuced the bed. Hopefully they can limit the damage here.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 3:34 pm : link
Need that patented DP ball here for Britton.
Nice K there for Britton  
Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 3:35 pm : link
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section125 : 8/12/2019 3:35 pm : link
In comment 14527933 arcarsenal said:
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Gary basically needs to hit a HR in every game to keep the detractors at bay...


No, but he might try getting a hit every now and then. Like Judge, he just is not hitting.
frozen pizza  
bigbluehoya : 8/12/2019 3:36 pm : link
nice slide-piece.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 3:38 pm : link
In comment 14527970 section125 said:
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In comment 14527933 arcarsenal said:


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Gary basically needs to hit a HR in every game to keep the detractors at bay...



No, but he might try getting a hit every now and then. Like Judge, he just is not hitting.


No? Are you new to Yankees threads? Lol.

Yes, he's struggling - he also just got off IL - and he's the first guy everyone piles on and goes wild over the second he's not launching HR's into seats at a historic pace.
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Greg from LI : 8/12/2019 3:38 pm : link
In comment 14527970 section125 said:
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No, but he might try getting a hit every now and then. Like Judge, he just is not hitting.


Again - he just returned from almost a month on the DL. Can we wait more than two games before starting this up again?
and then we walks Jace Peterson with the bases loaded  
Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 3:38 pm : link
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he is also - I can't stress this enough - a better catcher than Austin  
Greg from LI : 8/12/2019 3:38 pm : link
Romine.
after an easy out by Britton, he cannot  
section125 : 8/12/2019 3:38 pm : link
find the plate...walks Petersen.
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Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 3:39 pm : link
In comment 14527978 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14527970 section125 said:


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No, but he might try getting a hit every now and then. Like Judge, he just is not hitting.



Again - he just returned from almost a month on the DL. Can we wait more than two games before starting this up again?


Greg, to be fair, he wasn't hitting before his injury. I am not a Gary hater but his average has dropped considerably.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 3:39 pm : link
I'll take that from Britton. That's a tough situation to walk into and get out of with just 1 run.

no, he wasn't  
Greg from LI : 8/12/2019 3:41 pm : link
But why would you expect him to start hitting again immediately upon being activated?
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 3:46 pm : link
I have such a tough time with Britton - he always makes me nervous, but then you look at his game logs and realize he's gone 8 straight outings now without allowing an earned run.

His ERA is in the low 2's. But his FIP is over 4 and his WHIP is over 1.200 - so I guess it makes sense. He loses the zone often and seems to walk a tightrope a lot... but, he's getting the job done for the most part.

I think I'll feel a lot better when Betances is entrenched back in that 8th inning slot and we can deploy Britton as a mid inning leverage guy like we have done with Ottavino.
Anyone else remember when Gary was an MVP candidate this year?  
adamg : 8/12/2019 3:46 pm : link
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RE: no, he wasn't  
Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 3:48 pm : link
In comment 14527989 Greg from LI said:
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But why would you expect him to start hitting again immediately upon being activated?


His last 30 games he has batted .171
RE: RE: no, he wasn't  
Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 3:48 pm : link
In comment 14528011 Jints in Carolina said:
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In comment 14527989 Greg from LI said:


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But why would you expect him to start hitting again immediately upon being activated?



His last 30 games he has batted .171


Meant to add of course, we need to have patience coming off the injury, I agree.
arc, I've change my mind on Britton  
adamg : 8/12/2019 3:49 pm : link
I see now why he's so effective. His WHIP can be high and still won't fuck him up, because he's such a ground ball pitcher. He can easily get out of a jam with double play balls and the occasional strike out. Chappy and Betances are better. And even Otto might be better. But, Britton is still a huge weapon, especially in that kind of spot.
In his last 720 PAs in 170 games  
arniefez : 8/12/2019 3:49 pm : link
Gary Sanchez has a 210 BA and a .298 OBP. Not good. He has 129 hits. 43 of them HRs.
And given how the new balls are ruining fly ball pitchers  
adamg : 8/12/2019 3:51 pm : link
Britton is even more valuable, since he's unlikely to be effected by the changes.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 3:57 pm : link
I think the way our pen is constructed, Britton fits well - we don't need to ask too much of him. And we'll need to ask even less of him if Dellin gets back next month.

It's just frustrating when he really loses the zone... but he's a groundball factory and an ideal guy to put on the mound if you're in a jam and need to get a DP ball.
Nice win  
adamg : 8/12/2019 3:58 pm : link
all around
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 3:58 pm : link
And for the cherry on top.... Urshela makes a sterling play in the field. Pretty easy call on this game's MVP...
Ball game  
Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 4:00 pm : link
Game 2 lineups will posted when available.
How in hell is Urshela's UZR or whatever the  
section125 : 8/12/2019 4:01 pm : link
defensive rating is, be bad? This guy is money in the field.

I never trusted defensive stats because the seem to be subjective.

Chappy with a nice 9 pitch close. But after yesterday, I doubt he is available tonight.
who is starting the second game  
Del Shofner : 8/12/2019 4:03 pm : link
for us?
RE: How in hell is Urshela's UZR or whatever the  
Anando : 8/12/2019 4:03 pm : link
In comment 14528047 section125 said:
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Chappy with a nice 9 pitch close. But after yesterday, I doubt he is available tonight.


yea doubt he pitches tonight but at least today was only 9 pitches.
RE: who is starting the second game  
Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 4:04 pm : link
In comment 14528053 Del Shofner said:
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for us?


TBD
defensive stats are prone to single season aberrations  
Greg from LI : 8/12/2019 4:04 pm : link
Additionally, Urshela tends to be flashy but a bit inconsistent. He makes some amazing plays, but flubs some simple ones, and his range is only average.
RE: who is starting the second game  
arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 4:06 pm : link
In comment 14528053 Del Shofner said:
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for us?


Chad Green, I would expect.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 4:07 pm : link
Cortes last pitched Friday, IIRC... so he should be piggybacking Greenie per usual.
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section125 : 8/12/2019 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14527978 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14527970 section125 said:


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No, but he might try getting a hit every now and then. Like Judge, he just is not hitting.



Again - he just returned from almost a month on the DL. Can we wait more than two games before starting this up again?


Of course, it will take a few days. It is just the pitches he swings at are nowhere near strikes. He swung at 3 96 mph pitches above the zone yesterday which have been a walk. He will not see good pitches until he stops swinging at sliders that were never strikes and balls over his head. He is far to good a hitter to be swinging at pure junk. Good hitters get fooled because pitchers are good. But he swings at a lot, and I mean a lot, of crap for a guy of his ability. We all know how good he is. And that is the frustrating part and what people see.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 4:09 pm : link
Also don't be surprised if Adams and/or Lail end up on the mound tonight. Going to need middle relief innings.

Ottavino will be available late, but we're going to have to piece some of those middle innings together. Figure Boone will want to stay away from Cessa, Kahnle, Chapman and probably Britton if he can.
A win's a win...  
Dunedin81 : 8/12/2019 4:10 pm : link
but they should not have needed to use three of their best relievers in a game they were winning by 5 at one point.
The Preacher  
GruningsOnTheHill : 8/12/2019 5:27 pm : link
throwing for Balt as the Yankees counter with Chad Green, et al.
RE: How in hell is Urshela's UZR or whatever the  
adamg : 8/12/2019 5:34 pm : link
In comment 14528047 section125 said:
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defensive rating is, be bad? This guy is money in the field.

I never trusted defensive stats because the seem to be subjective.

Chappy with a nice 9 pitch close. But after yesterday, I doubt he is available tonight.


Urshela has a lot of errors. 13 in 82 games worth of innings. His fielding % is only 943.
Lineups game 2  
Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2019 5:46 pm : link
BAL
J Villar (S) SS
T Mancini (R) RF
A Santander (S) CF
R Núñez (R) DH
J Peterson (L) LF
C Sisco (L) C
H Alberto (R) 2B
C Davis (L) 1B
R Ruiz (L) 3B

NYY
D LeMahieu (R) 3B
A Judge (R) RF
G Urshela (R) DH
G Torres (R) SS
B Gardner (L) CF
C Maybin (R) LF
A Romine (R) C
M Ford (L) 1B
B Valera (S) 2B

Blach vs. Green

When Gardy is hot  
adamg : 8/12/2019 6:23 pm : link
and most our best bats are out, I like Gardy in the five hole. It's like having a new lead off hitter for after Torres goes deep again.
Why is Mike Ford  
Carson53 : 8/12/2019 6:24 pm : link
playing both games? Hope Voit gets back soon...sweep!
RE: Why is Mike Ford  
arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 6:28 pm : link
In comment 14528254 Carson53 said:
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playing both games? Hope Voit gets back soon...sweep!


So that we can get Urshela off his feet for a game.

RE: RE: How in hell is Urshela's UZR or whatever the  
section125 : 8/12/2019 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14528207 adamg said:
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In comment 14528047 section125 said:


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defensive rating is, be bad? This guy is money in the field.

I never trusted defensive stats because the seem to be subjective.

Chappy with a nice 9 pitch close. But after yesterday, I doubt he is available tonight.



Urshela has a lot of errors. 13 in 82 games worth of innings. His fielding % is only 943.


Hmmm, I can remember 1. I just don't remember that many and I see almost every game.

section  
adamg : 8/12/2019 6:42 pm : link
I know! I was surprised to see it when I looked into his fielding metrics. But, it is what it is. I still like him in the field.
Sanchez  
Marty866b : 8/12/2019 7:11 pm : link
Was awful last year and wasn't hitting well BEFORE his injury. He's hitting in the .220's so I don't understand that he has to always hit in the middle of the lineup?
9 pitch first for Green  
adamg : 8/12/2019 7:13 pm : link
I guess they have to leave him in there. Too good.
I saw Urshela talk earlier in the season...  
manh george : 8/12/2019 7:14 pm : link
about how Marcus Thames and one of the other coaches worked with him to significantly raise the angle on his stroke. He took that to heart, and quickly discovered that this was translating into a higher exit velocity, not just a better launch angle. It may not be any more complicated than that, but it's still amazing, and huge credit goes to the Yankee coaching staff as well as to Urshela.
RE: Sanchez  
UConn4523 : 8/12/2019 7:14 pm : link
In comment 14528339 Marty866b said:
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Was awful last year and wasn't hitting well BEFORE his injury. He's hitting in the .220's so I don't understand that he has to always hit in the middle of the lineup?


Because he’s too good of a hitter, one you want getting good pitches to get going. Can’t just bat everyone in a slump 8th or 9th.
Green's ERA by month  
adamg : 8/12/2019 7:15 pm : link
March-April: 16.43
May: 4.70
June: 0.69
July: 3.14
August: 2.25 (not including today)

He's really turned his year around. His ERA is down to 4.72 currently.
RE: I saw Urshela talk earlier in the season...  
arcarsenal : 8/12/2019 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14528345 manh george said:
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about how Marcus Thames and one of the other coaches worked with him to significantly raise the angle on his stroke. He took that to heart, and quickly discovered that this was translating into a higher exit velocity, not just a better launch angle. It may not be any more complicated than that, but it's still amazing, and huge credit goes to the Yankee coaching staff as well as to Urshela.


Yep - I think they said also that he wasn't following through with his swing completely. He was kind of cutting it off early. Now he's going all the way around and it's made a world of difference.

Really a remarkable transformation.
From NJ.com  
manh george : 8/12/2019 7:21 pm : link
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The improvement began right after his trade to the Yankees’ organization. When he joined Scranton Wilkes-Barre, he was talked into make some changes to his approach by RailRiders’ hitting coach Phil Plantier, who then helped made it possible by tweaking Urshela’s stance and swing.
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