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Taco Charlton may be on the outs

superspynyg : 8/12/2019 10:52 am
Credit: From Defenderdawgs Monday reading post

I thought this deserves its own thread.

He is listed on the Cowboys depth chart with the 3rd team.

Cowboys play a 4-3. He might be suited better for the 3-4. We need more pass rush and he might be worth taking a chance on if he is cut. He was 1st rounder a few years ago.

I would love to hear some thoughts from Sy and others on this.




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The more Wolverines, the better  
Bluenatic : 8/12/2019 10:54 am : link
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Always thought he was overrate coming out of college  
PatersonPlank : 8/12/2019 10:59 am : link
I was very glad the Giants didn't take him
I can't imagine...  
bw in dc : 8/12/2019 11:01 am : link
them cutting him before trying to trade him.
RE: Always thought he was overrate coming out of college  
superspynyg : 8/12/2019 11:03 am : link
In comment 14527374 PatersonPlank said:
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I was very glad the Giants didn't take him



Overrated for rd 1 or overrated in general. If he fell to us in rd 2 that year would you have been upset if we took him then?
He's looking more and more like a bust  
BillT : 8/12/2019 11:03 am : link
We don't need anyone's busts.
If he is cut I would take a flyer on him  
Rudy5757 : 8/12/2019 11:04 am : link
He hasn't shown much though so not sure how much of an upgrade he would be over the guys we have. Maybe without the pressure of being a 1st round bust he could just be a solid player.

Probably wont get cut initially since the Cowboys have some issues at DE right now but may be cut after week 2.

It would be real sweet if we do pick up a former Cowboy 1st round bust and get production from him. Jerruh would go nuts...lol. So would the fans.
RE: RE: Always thought he was overrate coming out of college  
PatersonPlank : 8/12/2019 11:04 am : link
In comment 14527383 superspynyg said:
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I was very glad the Giants didn't take him




Overrated for rd 1 or overrated in general. If he fell to us in rd 2 that year would you have been upset if we took him then?


For the first round
RE: The more Wolverines, the better  
Jon in NYC : 8/12/2019 11:06 am : link
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Gross
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chuckydee9 : 8/12/2019 11:07 am : link
In comment 14527386 PatersonPlank said:
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I was very glad the Giants didn't take him




Overrated for rd 1 or overrated in general. If he fell to us in rd 2 that year would you have been upset if we took him then?



For the first round


Neither did the cowboys
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I don't recall a player  
slickwilly : 8/12/2019 11:09 am : link
talking about his agent in almost every response. Kind of odd.
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superspynyg  
Klaatu : 8/12/2019 11:11 am : link
Here's what Sy wrote about him two years ago:

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9 Ė Taco Charlton Ė Michigan Ė 6í6/272: 76

Summary: Charlton was a rotational, situational player up until his senior season. He was a late bloomer but took full advantage of his opportunities as a senior, finishing third in the Big Ten with 10 sacks, earning 1st Team All Conference honors. Itís hard to believe that a player with this tool set took this long to make the impact. His triangle numbers are some of the best in the class and the skill set is on the way up. The upside here is enormous and he could see more progress than most, as his uptick has only just begun.

*One year starters always have to worry you, but there were a few stretches during the season where I was going to have Charlton with the top 3-4 guys in the class at DE. If you are looking at these guys in pads and watching them get off the ball, Charlton has the goods. He looks like JPP and even showed some flashes of playing like him as well. There is some information that he wasnít a hard worker, wasnít very coachable. Little bit of a red flag but at some point you have to give in to the upside he presents.

Upside Pro Comparison: Jason Pierre-Paul Ė NYG
Cowboy fans are stunned  
ghost718 : 8/12/2019 11:22 am : link
He was on a DL that was absolutely  
dep026 : 8/12/2019 11:25 am : link
Loaded and he was one dimensional. He was great for what Michigan needed. Always thought he would be over drafted. In fact when he went ahead of Wormley, I was shocked. Wormley was the better played at Michigan.
Fun fact!  
Klaatu : 8/12/2019 11:32 am : link
In 26 games (seven starts), Charlton has 46 tackles (28 solo) and four sacks.

In 15 games (two starts), Lorenzo Carter has 43 tackles (30 solo) and four sacks.

Charlton is also credited with forcing a fumble and recovering one (not sure if it's the same one), and Carter is credited with four passes defended.
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RobCarpenter : 8/12/2019 11:36 am : link
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Gross


We already have the best defensive player from that Michigan draft class.
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PatersonPlank : 8/12/2019 11:40 am : link
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I was very glad the Giants didn't take him




Overrated for rd 1 or overrated in general. If he fell to us in rd 2 that year would you have been upset if we took him then?



For the first round


Plus I guess looking at the fact that he's now 3rd string, if it holds, means that even 2nd or 3rd round was too high also.
I obtained via waivers, Charlton would be due $3.2MM over two years.  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/12/2019 11:44 am : link
That's decent value for a rotational edge player. I don't know whether he would make sense for the Giants; they already have a lot of wishful thinking on the edge with Carter, Ximenes, Golden and, to some extent, Martin (whom Charlton physically resembles). Charlton might just be more of the same.
I don't think he's got the hips and lateral movement  
JonC : 8/12/2019 11:44 am : link
to play in space, and he's not an explosive downhill end.
*If obtained...  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/12/2019 11:45 am : link
Apologies for the confusing typo.
Didnt they take him over TJ Watt?  
90.Cal : 8/12/2019 11:45 am : link
Bust.
If this means fewer  
English Alaister : 8/12/2019 11:46 am : link
Texan frat-bros shouting Taaaaaaaco randomly in sports bars it can only be a good thing.
No thanks  
Greg from LI : 8/12/2019 11:46 am : link
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RE: *If obtained...  
Klaatu : 8/12/2019 11:46 am : link
In comment 14527497 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Apologies for the confusing typo.


Thanks. I was wondering how you obtained him off of waivers.
With the suspended, hurt and busts...who exactly will be rushing Eli  
GiantBlue : 8/12/2019 11:53 am : link
Game 1????????

Seriously......Are they going to line up 4 DT's and try to blitz one of their LB's?
One of our cast offs Da Monster  
Carl in CT : 8/12/2019 11:54 am : link
Has finally figured out what is needed to be a NFL player and Iíve heard been killing it in camp
RE: One of our cast offs Da Monster  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/12/2019 11:59 am : link
Carl in CT said:
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Has finally figured out what is needed to be a NFL player and Iíve heard been killing it in camp
Just to be clear, though, Moore played against Dallas last week. He's a 49er.
Don Shula once loaded the Dolphins roster with #1 picks from others.  
Ivan15 : 8/12/2019 12:28 pm : link
That didnít work and it wonít work here.

Kind of like bringing in Erick Flowers to stabilize your line.
I don't know, I remember when  
barens : 8/12/2019 3:10 pm : link
he ran right around Erick Flowers for a sack...
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eli4life : 8/12/2019 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14527883 barens said:
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he ran right around Erick Flowers for a sack...



Well if he needs to do that then wait never mind everyone does that
RE: He's looking more and more like a bust  
JesseS : 8/12/2019 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14527384 BillT said:
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We don't need anyone's busts.


I like to live by the motto "never turn town a big bust", so I'd have to disagree.
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