I believe this guy had a shoulder problem in college.Injured/ reinjured it last summer. This guy is not 180lbs. soaking wet. How will he hold up tackling 220 plus running backs. I hear he has speed/talent. What good is that if he can`t get on the field and a glass shoulder. Wish him well.
the first Beal bust thread of the day - ( New Window )
I think we might be getting trolled here.
Hard to tell anymore with all the clowns on here.
I just made a simple observation about the guy and a few douche bags have be a..holes.
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please clarify, satire or no?
Hard to tell anymore with all the clowns on here.
I just made a simple observation about the guy and a few douche bags have be a..holes.
Maybe you should take a minute to think about whether or not your "simple observations" are worth sharing here.
So far, you're 0-2.
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please clarify, satire or no?
Hard to tell anymore with all the clowns on here.
I just made a simple observation about the guy and a few douche bags have be a..holes.
I honestly didn't know if it was a joke or not based on some of the other threads.
Yes, Beal could absolutely be a bust. Anyone can be a bust.
Here is the draft success (from one study) and success simply means starts 50% of their games.
Beal only had a 24% chance of becoming a consistent starter before he even signed his contract.
The numbers show us the following outline for finding consistent starters:
1st Round - OL (83%) LB (70%) TE (67%) DB (64%) QB (63%) WR (58%) RB (58%) DL (58%)
2nd Round - OL (70%) LB (55%) TE (50%) WR (49%) DB (46%) QB (27%) DL (26%) RB (25%)
3rd Round - OL (40%) TE (39%) LB (34%) DL (27%) WR (25%) DB (24%) QB (17%) RB (16%)
4th Round - DL (37%) TE (33%) OL (29%) LB (16%) WR(12%) DB (11%) RB (11%) QB (8%)
5th Round - TE (32%) DB (17%) WR (16%) OL (16%) DL (13%) RB (9%) LB (4%) QB (0%)
6th Round - TE (26%) OL (16%) DL (13%) WR (9%) DB (8%) RB (6%) LB (5%) QB (0%)
7th Round - DB (11%) OL (9%) QB (6%) WR (5%) DL (3%) LB (2%) RB (0%) TE (0%)
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please clarify, satire or no?
Hard to tell anymore with all the clowns on here.
I just made a simple observation about the guy and a few douche bags have be a..holes.
LOL.
So satire it isn't!
So many fucking morons this time of year.
in some ways, ability is not as important as availability
I can't think of a single other example of someone being given up on, damned near finished, resurrecting their career as a Giant.
Webster is often overlooked as a reason 2007 happened. That team BARELY backed into the playoffs, they gave up EIGHTY points in their first 2 games and were decimated with injuries, CB unit hit hard all season, including Webster himself, but after Sam Madison got hurt in the last game of the season, Webster returned to start and DOMINATED.
in some ways, ability is not as important as availability
I don't think that they properly fixed his org injury in college did they? I am not surprised it got re-injured. Plus I don't think the two are anywhere related. Any player at any time can pull a hamstring. Thy have to give it enough time to heal or it will be an ongoing thing.
Now if he hurts his shoulder again then we can talk bust.
not sayin Beal is a bust, but, sheesh, for everyone to attack the thought of him possibly being injury prone is classic BBI
some of it is probably body type, some is probably workout regime, some is certainly random
Is the guy supposed to take the field just to placate the fans?? If there's anything you want to protect speed guys from - it is hamstring injuries.
LMAO!
Is the guy supposed to take the field just to placate the fans?? If there's anything you want to protect speed guys from - it is hamstring injuries.
His hammy is a completely unrelated injury. I believe it is way too early to call him a bust or even injury prone. But, he certainly isn't having a great start to his career.
I don't think football aptitude is the root cause. "Dumb as a fencepost' had to have a real-life inspiration, no?
LMAO!
Let's face facts, if Reese was the GM, just about everyone would be lambasting him for picking a guy with the 6th pick in the 3rd round (what it turned out to be) who missed his entire first season, and is now on the shelf for all of training camp. Me personally, it's just bad luck, same with all the WR injuries, but most on here seemed to blame Reese for guys getting injured......
Couldn’t agree more! Wait, what?
Beals size is irrelevant.
However, I do have a hard time believing DG knew about the injury when he drafted him. Is there any real evidence that he did?
I really can't believe some of the shit tossed around here sometimes.
This same skepticism was applied correctly by many on BBI when judging if Collins was a good investment, remember.
I am firmly in the wait and see, but cautious category with Beal.
This same skepticism was applied correctly by many on BBI when judging if Collins was a good investment, remember.
I am firmly in the wait and see, but cautious category with Beal.
This is my concern more than the hamstring. I still think Collins will never be the same player again because leading with his shoulder is how he tackles. It isn't as much of a concern with Beal because as a CB, he should be wrapping guys up, but reinjuring a body part still raises a red flag.
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And then turned into one of the finest corners in the history of the organization
Don't expect that to ever, ever, ever happen again.
I can't think of a single other example of someone being given up on, damned near finished, resurrecting their career as a Giant.
Webster is often overlooked as a reason 2007 happened. That team BARELY backed into the playoffs, they gave up EIGHTY points in their first 2 games and were decimated with injuries, CB unit hit hard all season, including Webster himself, but after Sam Madison got hurt in the last game of the season, Webster returned to start and DOMINATED.
Ummmmm, Tiki Barber, Kerry Collins, Amani Toomer...
Heck, Scott Brunner was named the starter over a healthy Simms.
If he continues to get injured repeatedly over an extended period of time going forward then we'll have to re-evaluate. If you can't stay on the field your roster slot eventually goes to someone that can. Still too early to make that call though.
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This thread is weird -- but after 2 procedures on the same shoulder -- Beal does need to prove he can stay on the field.
This same skepticism was applied correctly by many on BBI when judging if Collins was a good investment, remember.
I am firmly in the wait and see, but cautious category with Beal.
This is my concern more than the hamstring. I still think Collins will never be the same player again because leading with his shoulder is how he tackles. It isn't as much of a concern with Beal because as a CB, he should be wrapping guys up, but reinjuring a body part still raises a red flag.
Yeah, what scares me is if he tore his labrum twice (I don't know this btw, just guessing based on dislocations needing surgery), all types of motion, flexibility, and dexterity gets dicey.
Getting his arms around a big, fast, moving target puts a lot of stress on the joint. I've heard a dislocated shoulder described as "tearing the hinges of the door."
He's a young guy with plenty of time off between the procedures, hopefully he's good and healed and this is in the past soon for him.
not sayin Beal is a bust, but, sheesh, for everyone to attack the thought of him possibly being injury prone is classic BBI
Beal has a History of being injured. If you want to use analogical satire to mock the OP, you have to do better
It isn't like he was injured continuously in college
in some ways, ability is not as important as availability
Sorry Dave, responded to wrong poster above. I agree it s not unreasonable to hope a guy who missed all of last year and is missing time again is not injury prone
Once he does he has to produce show he is worthy
certainly off to a bad start but not ready for
the bust label he basically has yet to play .
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please clarify, satire or no?
Hard to tell anymore with all the clowns on here.
I just made a simple observation about the guy and a few douche bags have be a..holes.
This incorrect. You’re not using the douche bag right.
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And then turned into one of the finest corners in the history of the organization
Don't expect that to ever, ever, ever happen again.
I can't think of a single other example of someone being given up on, damned near finished, resurrecting their career as a Giant.
Webster is often overlooked as a reason 2007 happened. That team BARELY backed into the playoffs, they gave up EIGHTY points in their first 2 games and were decimated with injuries, CB unit hit hard all season, including Webster himself, but after Sam Madison got hurt in the last game of the season, Webster returned to start and DOMINATED.
Whatever I may think of Landon Collins as a player now, he was complete and utter garbage his rookie year and good the following year.
Offensive example - Amani Toomer was a tease for a few years before the light went on.
Sometimes it takes awhile. It absolutely could happen again.
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Baker didn't get hurt his first practice and then spend the yr on IR, then get hurt right away the next yr.
not sayin Beal is a bust, but, sheesh, for everyone to attack the thought of him possibly being injury prone is classic BBI
Beal has a History of being injured. If you want to use analogical satire to mock the OP, you have to do better
Analogical satire?
That’s a good one. Definitely shuts people up