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Beal might be a Bust

tb7117 : 8/12/2019 12:58 pm
I believe this guy had a shoulder problem in college.Injured/ reinjured it last summer. This guy is not 180lbs. soaking wet. How will he hold up tackling 220 plus running backs. I hear he has speed/talent. What good is that if he can`t get on the field and a glass shoulder. Wish him well.
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To the OP  
Torrag : 8/12/2019 4:37 pm : link
Is there concern Beal hasn't been able to stay healthy thus far? Yes. Does that make him a bust when he hasn't played a down yet for the team? No. He should get an opportunity soon.

If he continues to get injured repeatedly over an extended period of time going forward then we'll have to re-evaluate. If you can't stay on the field your roster slot eventually goes to someone that can. Still too early to make that call though.
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christian : 8/12/2019 4:59 pm : link
In comment 14528075 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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This thread is weird -- but after 2 procedures on the same shoulder -- Beal does need to prove he can stay on the field.

This same skepticism was applied correctly by many on BBI when judging if Collins was a good investment, remember.

I am firmly in the wait and see, but cautious category with Beal.



This is my concern more than the hamstring. I still think Collins will never be the same player again because leading with his shoulder is how he tackles. It isn't as much of a concern with Beal because as a CB, he should be wrapping guys up, but reinjuring a body part still raises a red flag.


Yeah, what scares me is if he tore his labrum twice (I don't know this btw, just guessing based on dislocations needing surgery), all types of motion, flexibility, and dexterity gets dicey.

Getting his arms around a big, fast, moving target puts a lot of stress on the joint. I've heard a dislocated shoulder described as "tearing the hinges of the door."

He's a young guy with plenty of time off between the procedures, hopefully he's good and healed and this is in the past soon for him.
RE: cjac  
joeinpa : 8/12/2019 5:22 pm : link
In comment 14527722 Dave said:
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Baker didn't get hurt his first practice and then spend the yr on IR, then get hurt right away the next yr.
not sayin Beal is a bust, but, sheesh, for everyone to attack the thought of him possibly being injury prone is classic BBI


Beal has a History of being injured. If you want to use analogical satire to mock the OP, you have to do better
I think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/12/2019 6:05 pm : link
"History" is overblown. He's had the shoulder issue and now a hamstring.

It isn't like he was injured continuously in college
RE: I'm not sure the OP is wrong  
joeinpa : 8/12/2019 6:11 pm : link
In comment 14527698 Dave said:
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3rd rd pick coming off a shoulder injury, injured it again in his 1st practice, now the hammy
in some ways, ability is not as important as availability


Sorry Dave, responded to wrong poster above. I agree it s not unreasonable to hope a guy who missed all of last year and is missing time again is not injury prone
I think the more articulate way to frame this  
bhill410 : 8/12/2019 8:15 pm : link
Is they have the guy for 4 years. Year 1 he was injured for entire year, year 2 he is looking like he may miss majority if not all of training camp. You never know but that isn’t a good harbringer for either a healthy year or productive year for a young player. That means we are likely getting 2 years for a third round pick - he could still be worth it but it’s an unfortunate used of resources at this point.
Second contracts..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/12/2019 8:27 pm : link
get talked up a lot as the Holy Grail, but there are many 2nd contracts that don't come at a steep price. And unless Beal is a steady starter and impact player, it won't cost a bankload to keep him.

So far he has not done a thing once his hammy is healed  
Bluesbreaker : 8/12/2019 8:54 pm : link
he may have a hard time getting on the field .
Once he does he has to produce show he is worthy
certainly off to a bad start but not ready for
the bust label he basically has yet to play .
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Hsilwek92 : 8/12/2019 9:33 pm : link
In comment 14527683 tb7117 said:
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please clarify, satire or no?

Hard to tell anymore with all the clowns on here.



I just made a simple observation about the guy and a few douche bags have be a..holes.


This incorrect. You’re not using the douche bag right.
RE: RE: Corey Webster was considered a bust for a few years  
FStubbs : 8/12/2019 10:19 pm : link
In comment 14527699 x meadowlander said:
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And then turned into one of the finest corners in the history of the organization

Don't expect that to ever, ever, ever happen again.

I can't think of a single other example of someone being given up on, damned near finished, resurrecting their career as a Giant.

Webster is often overlooked as a reason 2007 happened. That team BARELY backed into the playoffs, they gave up EIGHTY points in their first 2 games and were decimated with injuries, CB unit hit hard all season, including Webster himself, but after Sam Madison got hurt in the last game of the season, Webster returned to start and DOMINATED.


Whatever I may think of Landon Collins as a player now, he was complete and utter garbage his rookie year and good the following year.

Offensive example - Amani Toomer was a tease for a few years before the light went on.

Sometimes it takes awhile. It absolutely could happen again.
I’m not going to agree about being a bust  
Carl in CT : 8/13/2019 9:07 am : link
But part of being a pro is being able to suit up on sundays.
RE: RE: cjac  
Vanzetti : 8/13/2019 10:35 am : link
In comment 14528187 joeinpa said:
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Baker didn't get hurt his first practice and then spend the yr on IR, then get hurt right away the next yr.
not sayin Beal is a bust, but, sheesh, for everyone to attack the thought of him possibly being injury prone is classic BBI



Beal has a History of being injured. If you want to use analogical satire to mock the OP, you have to do better


Analogical satire?

That’s a good one. Definitely shuts people up
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