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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/13/2019 9:16 am


Tuesday, August 13
10:15 a.m. – Practice
After practice – Head Coach Pat Shurmur
After practice – Player Interviews
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RE: RE: RE: RE: So Dave  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/13/2019 12:35 pm : link
In comment 14529064 Bill L said:
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if you were the GM and coach, you would cut your talent 3rd round pick from a year ago because he had shoulder surgery last year and he pulled his hamstring this year. (BTW, he practiced all spring, but you seem to want to ignore that).

As 90.Cal noted above, OBJ was a bust at this point.



No... OBJ didnt miss a entire year and then 4 games just the 4 games but good try.



At this point, you had no way of knowing that he would be back for game 5.

We also know that Beal will be back much sooner than that, given that he's steadily improving er Shurmer.

Also, OBJ missed games every season. And given Beal's collegiate history, OBJ likely missed more than Beal will. Was he a bust?


Beal missed his entire rookie year last year. Beckham missed the first four games of his rookie year. Beckham was way ahead of Beal in terms of games played in their rookie years.
All I said was...  
90.Cal : 8/13/2019 12:36 pm : link
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Beal not able to go for 2 consecutive training camps
90.Cal : 10:41 am : link : reply
Is awful. What I'm going to say next is a bit premature, I'll admit that, but the truth is that I have zero faith in this kid to ever stay healthy or to produce on the field for this team. There are a handful of guys we could have used with a pick at the top of round 3 in this past draft. Jaylon Ferguson, David Montgomery or Chase Winovich, Connor McGovern to name a few... Beal is looking more and more like a bust.


If you want to crucify me, call me a jackass or whatever for not hanging onto hope like some of you... go for it... time will tell on Beal
High expectations from the boss  
90.Cal : 8/13/2019 12:37 pm : link
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Mara: “I want to walk off the field after our last game (this season), whenever that is, and know the team is heading in the right direction.”


Just kidding.
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90.Cal : 8/13/2019 12:39 pm : link
@DDuggan21
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If a QB change is made, Mara said he’d like to be informed of it beforehand but said it’ll be Shurmur’s decision at the end of the day. Mara hopes it’s not a decision he has to make “until way in the future.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/13/2019 12:41 pm : link
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Team President John Mara on Daniel Jones: “So far, so good. He’s everything we thought he would be.”
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90.Cal : 8/13/2019 12:41 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants #Mara - "I hope Eli (Manning) has a great year and Daniel (Jones) never sees the field - that would be in an ideal world, you'd like to see that. .. It means Eli is having a great year and we're having a great year." Shurmur decides who plays..Taking it yr by yr w Eli
can we lock down the tweet threads?  
Steve in ATL : 8/13/2019 12:41 pm : link
so that only moderators can post to them with the tweets and not have half the tread devoted to complaining about injuries.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/13/2019 12:41 pm : link
Paul Schwartz
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What will be a successful season for John Mara? He wants to be able to walk off the field after the last game and feel the team is heading in the right direction.
Mara still does not get it  
nygiants16 : 8/13/2019 12:41 pm : link
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RE: All I said was...  
Capt. Don : 8/13/2019 12:42 pm : link
In comment 14529107 90.Cal said:
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Beal not able to go for 2 consecutive training camps
90.Cal : 10:41 am : link : reply

If you want to crucify me, call me a jackass or whatever for not hanging onto hope like some of you... go for it... time will tell on Beal



You're a jackass.

Not bc you are completely overreacting (you are) but bc you are clogging up the practice update thread with this shit.
Is it that hard to see the tweets  
90.Cal : 8/13/2019 12:42 pm : link
Its not like they aren't pinned at the top of the thread... who knew a discussion... about the team... would be a problem on a message board for the teams fans... wow. I'll stop posting.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/13/2019 12:43 pm : link
Tom Rock
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Mara says they are year-to-year with Eli’s contract.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/13/2019 12:43 pm : link
Dan Salomone
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CB DeAndre Baker (sprained knee) says he doesn’t feel any discomfort. Will he be ready for Dallas? “Definitely.”
RE: Is it that hard to see the tweets  
GiantsRage2007 : 8/13/2019 12:45 pm : link
In comment 14529128 90.Cal said:
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Its not like they aren't pinned at the top of the thread... who knew a discussion... about the team... would be a problem on a message board for the teams fans... wow. I'll stop posting.


Stop posting the same exact thing, yes. Thank you.
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90.Cal : 8/13/2019 12:45 pm : link
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"You don't like to see all that talent go out the door, but let's face it – we had one winning season in '16 and the other 5 or 6 years have not been so good"

– John Mara on the Giants letting OBJ and Landon Collins go
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RE: Is it that hard to see the tweets  
Capt. Don : 8/13/2019 12:45 pm : link
In comment 14529128 90.Cal said:
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Its not like they aren't pinned at the top of the thread... who knew a discussion... about the team... would be a problem on a message board for the teams fans... wow. I'll stop posting.


We did it! See, if we all work together we can accomplish great things that benefit everyone!
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ron mexico : 8/13/2019 12:45 pm : link
In comment 14529129 Eric from BBI said:
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Mara says they are year-to-year with Eli’s contract.


I wonder if Eli is on the same page?
Will he accept only a 1 year extension if they get to a point where a new contract is merited?
RE: All I said was...  
Milton : 8/13/2019 12:46 pm : link
In comment 14529107 90.Cal said:
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If you want to crucify me, call me a jackass or whatever for not hanging onto hope like some of you... go for it... time will tell on Beal
Nobody wants to crucify you and only a handful want to call you jackass, but you should follow the sport for a few years before getting worked up over an injury or two. Lots of players get injured. It's a problem with the sport that's only getting worse. But very few injuries are career-threatening. You'll see. Give it time and before you know it you'll be as knowledgable about the game as the fans who have been following it for years.
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GiantsRage2007 : 8/13/2019 12:47 pm : link
In comment 14529136 ron mexico said:
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Tom Rock
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Mara says they are year-to-year with Eli’s contract.



I wonder if Eli is on the same page?
Will he accept only a 1 year extension if they get to a point where a new contract is merited?


You drafted a QB #6 overall - he HAS to be the starter next yr... come on....
Am I the only one who wishes that Mara  
RobCarpenter : 8/13/2019 12:49 pm : link
Wouldn't talk to the press? All he should say is "I have confidence in Dave and Pat and I'm excited about this season" and leave it at that.

Again with his stupid grandson, ugh.
RE: Am I the only one who wishes that Mara  
Danny Kanell : 8/13/2019 1:03 pm : link
In comment 14529146 RobCarpenter said:
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Wouldn't talk to the press? All he should say is "I have confidence in Dave and Pat and I'm excited about this season" and leave it at that.

Again with his stupid grandson, ugh.


You're not the only one.
Bill  
Dave : 8/13/2019 1:18 pm : link
In comment 14529028 Bill L said:
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if you were the GM and coach, you would cut your talent 3rd round pick from a year ago because he had shoulder surgery last year and he pulled his hamstring this year. (BTW, he practiced all spring, but you seem to want to ignore that).

As 90.Cal noted above, OBJ was a bust at this point.


I never said to cut him, I just pointed out that his durability is giving me concern
Mara's comments are kind of stupid  
Rudy5757 : 8/13/2019 1:26 pm : link
He doesnt have to comment on Eli's status and contract.
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BillKo : 8/13/2019 1:30 pm : link
In comment 14529125 Eric from BBI said:
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What will be a successful season for John Mara? He wants to be able to walk off the field after the last game and feel the team is heading in the right direction.


That's actually a really good quote. It's year two of this regime, you want to see that arrow pointing in the right direction.

The signs are there, but the team now has to make it happen, and go execute.
RE: RE: jvm52106  
Ivan15 : 8/13/2019 1:30 pm : link
In comment 14528996 AcidTest said:
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Contrary to Beal, I have more concern with Big George. If he doesn't get back soon, he probably won't be on the 53.

IR for Big George if he needed to bulk up. He needs practice time. They should be able to slip him onto the PS.


I think he's going on IR.
RE: Beal not practicing again?  
clatterbuck : 8/13/2019 1:42 pm : link
In comment 14528874 robbieballs2003 said:
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What a bust. Cut him. Burn him at the stake. Castrate him.




Sorry, just figured I'd get these stupid comments out of the way early today.


Didn't work. See below.
RE: RE: RE: Beal not able to go for 2 consecutive training camps  
clatterbuck : 8/13/2019 1:45 pm : link
In comment 14528896 90.Cal said:
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Is awful. What I'm going to say next is a bit premature, I'll admit that, but the truth is that I have zero faith in this kid to ever stay healthy or to produce on the field for this team. There are a handful of guys we could have used with a pick at the top of round 3 in this past draft. Jaylon Ferguson, David Montgomery or Chase Winovich, Connor McGovern to name a few... Beal is looking more and more like a bust.



Because he has a hamstring injury? Wow.



He cant make it on the god damn field. Not just this year. Last year too. How many years does he get without showcasing anything?


The list of players who had great careers after overcoming injuries early on is pretty long.
RE: Mara still does not get it  
Nine-Tails : 8/13/2019 1:49 pm : link
In comment 14529126 nygiants16 said:
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Agree
RE: If Beal can't play this year he will be  
clatterbuck : 8/13/2019 1:50 pm : link
In comment 14528963 90.Cal said:
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A 3rd year Rookie, next season. And all the shit I'm saying now.. everyone will be saying next year.

Odell's hamstring cost him all of training camp PLUS 4 weeks of the regular season. Beal is no Odell meaning he is not coming back week 5 lighting the league up... puh-lease... Shurmur said he would be "ready soon"... about 3 weeks ago! You bet your house on this kid, Eric and others, if you want to... I'm not. That's just my opinion period

Not trying to stir anything up just my last take on Beal. Sorry for keeping it going.


I think you've made your point.
RE: So Dave  
section125 : 8/13/2019 1:55 pm : link
In comment 14529013 Eric from BBI said:
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if you were the GM and coach, you would cut your talent 3rd round pick from a year ago because he had shoulder surgery last year and he pulled his hamstring this year. (BTW, he practiced all spring, but you seem to want to ignore that).


The stupidity in these whiny comments is that DG knew that Beal needed surgery and we all knew that DG knew. So Beal was never drafted for last year. They drafted him knowing he would need surgery, he could rehab with the team, learn the defense through film breakdowns weekly and then play this year.
He pulled a hammy. They take time for an explosion type player to heal. The Giants are not going to rush it and get another OBJ type re-injury costing 4 games to start the year.

Take a chill pill and let it play out. There are plenty of young DBs getting valuable reps to strut their stuff and get noticed in the meantime...
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GiantEgo : 8/13/2019 1:58 pm : link
if Beal's hamstring is the big obsession this preseason must be going great! The best ever!
RE: Bill  
Bill L : 8/13/2019 2:00 pm : link
In comment 14529187 Dave said:
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In comment 14529013 Eric from BBI said:


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if you were the GM and coach, you would cut your talent 3rd round pick from a year ago because he had shoulder surgery last year and he pulled his hamstring this year. (BTW, he practiced all spring, but you seem to want to ignore that).

As 90.Cal noted above, OBJ was a bust at this point.



I never said to cut him, I just pointed out that his durability is giving me concern


This is weird. You did stop posting on one handle, but came back as another?
Can we keep the nonsense to a minimum please?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/13/2019 2:07 pm : link
The only people that thought Beckham was a "bust" were the mouth breather "china doll" section of BBI, dont normalize their opinions as relevant.

It's not the same situation as beal. Beal hasn't even been active for a full training camp and its year 2. Theres really no reason to argue this.
RE: Bill  
dep026 : 8/13/2019 2:13 pm : link
In comment 14529187 Dave said:
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I never said to cut him, I just pointed out that his durability is giving me concern


Way to out yourself.... haha
If he was having issues with  
BSIMatt : 8/13/2019 2:21 pm : link
joints, ligaments,cartiledge, broken bones etc I'd be more concerned..hamstring issues are common with quick twitch explosive athletes so I'm less worried.
Not a lot of great options with Beal  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/13/2019 2:24 pm : link
Keep him injured and all into regular season, another lost preseason with no practice and evaluation, with likely some tough bottom of the roster cuts.

Stash him on IR, again 2 lost years.

Cut him and stash him on PS, and he shows up this year might be the best option.
Regarding  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/13/2019 2:35 pm : link
Beal, it's only been a couple of weeks. Folks won't even remember this discussion come November.
RE: Regarding  
ron mexico : 8/13/2019 2:37 pm : link
In comment 14529279 Eric from BBI said:
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Beal, it's only been a couple of weeks. Folks won't even remember this discussion come November.


because he will have been on IR for two months at that point?

I keed I keed
Going from Beal back to the tweets...  
Dan in the Springs : 8/13/2019 2:41 pm : link
this Duggan one was interesting to me...

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Julian Love and Antonio Hamilton working with the starting defense in place of Antoine Bethea and DeAndre Baker.


I think this is Hamilton's second day working with the ones, yesterday (if I'm correct) he was splitting time with Ballentine, today no mention if Ballentine that I saw. Good for AH. Ballentine has impressed so it's great for our depth to see that Hamilton is also impressing enough for starting reps.

Secondly, and what was really interesting to me about this tweet is Love getting first team reps in Bethea's absence. I know that Bethea is the vet who knows Bettcher's system and will be the expected opening day starter, but he didn't impress me in the Jets game (limited action, but still was late and slow in recovery to my eyes, particularly on the opening drive). All things being equal youth wins out in this sport, especially in the defensive backfield, so it's nice to see a true rookie 4th rounder getting starter snaps even if it's on a rest day for the vet. Love looks good to me, even if he's going to go through some rookie growing pains, I'd prefer he get as much experience as he can.
RE: RE: Bill  
Bill L : 8/13/2019 2:43 pm : link
In comment 14529240 Bill L said:
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if you were the GM and coach, you would cut your talent 3rd round pick from a year ago because he had shoulder surgery last year and he pulled his hamstring this year. (BTW, he practiced all spring, but you seem to want to ignore that).

As 90.Cal noted above, OBJ was a bust at this point.



I never said to cut him, I just pointed out that his durability is giving me concern



This is weird. You did stop posting on one handle, but came back as another?

It's because there is no situation with Beal. None. Nada.

Just a guy with a normal hamstring pull.

Now, let's move onto that bust Darius Slayton.
Just for the record  
Pepe LePugh : 8/13/2019 2:58 pm : link
Prior to DG, last Giant 3rd who was somewhat productive? Mario Manningham in 08. Even IF Beal turns out to be a China doll, it’s not like some unique blunder. Just a reminder that the draft is a crapshoot.
Was there news regarding any non-Beal NYG players this day  
ChaChing : 8/13/2019 3:01 pm : link
?
RE: Just for the record  
ChaChing : 8/13/2019 3:03 pm : link
In comment 14529317 Pepe LePugh said:
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Prior to DG, last Giant 3rd who was somewhat productive? Mario Manningham in 08. Even IF Beal turns out to be a China doll, it’s not like some unique blunder. Just a reminder that the draft is a crapshoot.

Don't come 'round here with all that even-keeled, logic stuff

Also great handle
RE: Not a lot of great options with Beal  
Milton : 8/13/2019 3:06 pm : link
In comment 14529266 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Keep him injured and all into regular season, another lost preseason with no practice and evaluation, with likely some tough bottom of the roster cuts.

Stash him on IR, again 2 lost years.

Cut him and stash him on PS, and he shows up this year might be the best option.
Why are those the only options?
Beal's...  
Brown_Hornet : 8/13/2019 3:07 pm : link
...got a leg.

Next question.
ChaChing  
Pepe LePugh : 8/13/2019 3:09 pm : link
Sorry. I’m so ashamed
RE: Just for the record  
Milton : 8/13/2019 3:12 pm : link
In comment 14529317 Pepe LePugh said:
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Prior to DG, last Giant 3rd who was somewhat productive? Mario Manningham in 08. Even IF Beal turns out to be a China doll, it’s not like some unique blunder. Just a reminder that the draft is a crapshoot.
A Raiders fan friend of mine was complaining yesterday about their 2018 3rd round pick, Brandon Parker, who was considered a very talented, but developmental prospect when they drafted him. Apparently he is getting bested by 2nd and 3rd stringers in camp and is looking like a bust. I told him that the 3rd round is a popular round for boom or bust prospects. The Giants had an early 2nd round grade on Beal when they drafted him last year. Time will tell, but a shoulder injury and a hamstring injury isn't nearly enough for a jury verdict.
RE: RE: Just for the record  
Jay on the Island : 8/13/2019 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14529338 Milton said:
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Prior to DG, last Giant 3rd who was somewhat productive? Mario Manningham in 08. Even IF Beal turns out to be a China doll, it’s not like some unique blunder. Just a reminder that the draft is a crapshoot.

A Raiders fan friend of mine was complaining yesterday about their 2018 3rd round pick, Brandon Parker, who was considered a very talented, but developmental prospect when they drafted him. Apparently he is getting bested by 2nd and 3rd stringers in camp and is looking like a bust. I told him that the 3rd round is a popular round for boom or bust prospects. The Giants had an early 2nd round grade on Beal when they drafted him last year. Time will tell, but a shoulder injury and a hamstring injury isn't nearly enough for a jury verdict.
RE: RE: So Dave  
shyster : 8/13/2019 3:44 pm : link
In comment 14529233 section125 said:
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The stupidity in these whiny comments is that DG knew that Beal needed surgery and we all knew that DG knew. So Beal was never drafted for last year. They drafted him knowing he would need surgery, he could rehab with the team, learn the defense through film breakdowns weekly and then play this year.


False history. Beal was drafted with Giants' knowledge he had a shoulder issue. If Giants knew he needed surgery, he wouldn't have been on the field to re-injure the shoulder in his first practice, which is what happened.

And the "we all knew" comment is nonsense. Once Beal hurt himself with the Giants, then it came out that NFL teams had known of his shoulder issue. There was no public discussion of the issue before that. No mention in the comments when Beal was drafted.

Invite you to sbow otherwise.


nj.com - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: Just for the record  
Jay on the Island : 8/13/2019 3:44 pm : link
Sorry pushed send by accident.

I was a big fan of Parker's last year as a developmental LT and IIRC the Giants were high on him as well.
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