Is awful. What I'm going to say next is a bit premature, I'll admit that, but the truth is that I have zero faith in this kid to ever stay healthy or to produce on the field for this team. There are a handful of guys we could have used with a pick at the top of round 3 in this past draft. Jaylon Ferguson, David Montgomery or Chase Winovich, Connor McGovern to name a few... Beal is looking more and more like a bust.
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Wayne Gallman joining the crew on the side that includes DeAndre Baker (knee), Sam Beal (hamstring), Alec Ogletree (calf), Brian Mihalik (burner) and Isaiah Searight (?). Still no sign of George Asafo-Adjei (concussion).
Is awful. What I'm going to say next is a bit premature, I'll admit that, but the truth is that I have zero faith in this kid to ever stay healthy or to produce on the field for this team. There are a handful of guys we could have used with a pick at the top of round 3 in this past draft. Jaylon Ferguson, David Montgomery or Chase Winovich, Connor McGovern to name a few... Beal is looking more and more like a bust.
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Right side of the OL with Zeitler and Remmers getting a day off: RG Nick Gates, RT Chad Slade. Looks like it’ll be a game prep practice with scout teams so probably light on notes.
RE: RE: Beal not able to go for 2 consecutive training camps Â
Is awful. What I'm going to say next is a bit premature, I'll admit that, but the truth is that I have zero faith in this kid to ever stay healthy or to produce on the field for this team. There are a handful of guys we could have used with a pick at the top of round 3 in this past draft. Jaylon Ferguson, David Montgomery or Chase Winovich, Connor McGovern to name a few... Beal is looking more and more like a bust.
Because he has a hamstring injury? Wow.
He cant make it on the god damn field. Not just this year. Last year too. How many years does he get without showcasing anything?
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Wayne Gallman joining the crew on the side that includes DeAndre Baker (knee), Sam Beal (hamstring), Alec Ogletree (calf), Brian Mihalik (burner) and Isaiah Searight (?). Still no sign of George Asafo-Adjei (concussion).
Anyone else concerned about GAA's concussion? This is seeming to be taking a bit to come back from. Concussions and the long term effects or potential are scary. He is missing so much valuable time gotta believe he is heading towards PS or IR if he doesn't get cleared in next 3-5 days.
It's unbelievable how many here can't figure out Â
that hamstring injuries take time to heal. Players who come back to early often re-aggravate the injury. Sure, it's not ideal that he's missing time, but he's an important piece to this secondary. I'd rather he get this hammy healthy before the games actually count.
Is awful. What I'm going to say next is a bit premature, I'll admit that, but the truth is that I have zero faith in this kid to ever stay healthy or to produce on the field for this team. There are a handful of guys we could have used with a pick at the top of round 3 in this past draft. Jaylon Ferguson, David Montgomery or Chase Winovich, Connor McGovern to name a few... Beal is looking more and more like a bust.
Because he has a hamstring injury? Wow.
He cant make it on the god damn field. Not just this year. Last year too. How many years does he get without showcasing anything?
He had shoulder surgery. He's not milking anything...
Baker gets hurt you would think this would be Beal's big opportunity. But no hes hurt too.. Beal is like a year 2 rookie and on top of that the year 1 rookies are ahead of him because they have been practicing while Beal hasn't been doing anything. Look what Ballentine has done since joining the team late... Beal hasn't done jack shit yet. Losing patience with the guy is all.
Contrary to Beal, I have more concern with Big George. If he doesn't get back soon, he probably won't be on the 53.
To me, based on where he was picked and kind of a project to begin with, you stash him on IR. He is too far behind right now and still not cleared to play.
at a premium position because of a hamstring injury. The Giants reportedly were aware of his shoulder issue last year when they drafted him so they aren't going to cut bait with him over a hamstring injury. It would be idiotic to release him now.
RE: Are we not going to see Beal in action this year or what? Â
Baker gets hurt you would think this would be Beal's big opportunity. But no hes hurt too.. Beal is like a year 2 rookie and on top of that the year 1 rookies are ahead of him because they have been practicing while Beal hasn't been doing anything. Look what Ballentine has done since joining the team late... Beal hasn't done jack shit yet. Losing patience with the guy is all.
You are asking if we are going to see Beal, who has a hamstring injury in which the coach says he is close to coming back, play this year?
The guy keeps getting hurt doing what exactly? Not playing or practicing for this team...
Obviously shoulder surgery takes time to heal just like a hamstring takes time to heal... but if you dont see the signs of an injury prone player who struggles to just take the damn field then IDK what else to say
..and still don't get the last point...is he saying Elliott isn't one of the best players in the NFL?
if you are referring to the Leonard article, he is saying that Zeke is one of the best players in the league he should be paid like it. He shouldn't take a discount because he plays RB
The guy keeps getting hurt doing what exactly? Not playing or practicing for this team...
Obviously shoulder surgery takes time to heal just like a hamstring takes time to heal... but if you dont see the signs of an injury prone player who struggles to just take the damn field then IDK what else to say
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Rod Smith just made a good play on kickoff coverage - would have lit up Golden in live action.
RE: RE: Are we not going to see Beal in action this year or what? Â
Baker gets hurt you would think this would be Beal's big opportunity. But no hes hurt too.. Beal is like a year 2 rookie and on top of that the year 1 rookies are ahead of him because they have been practicing while Beal hasn't been doing anything. Look what Ballentine has done since joining the team late... Beal hasn't done jack shit yet. Losing patience with the guy is all.
You are asking if we are going to see Beal, who has a hamstring injury in which the coach says he is close to coming back, play this year?
Is this a serious question?
I'm not asking IF... I'm asking when? And how long until he gets hurt again? And when is he ever going to showcase why he should get on the field ahead of Janoris, DeAndre, Corey B, Love or Haley?? A full year and almost half of a preseason and we still have seen nothing Eric. That is all. I'm not giving up on him. I'm just losing patience with him not being able yo do ANYTHINH, I dont see any reason to be optimistic about Beal producing for this team until he proves otherwise and without being able to play, HELLO, how the hell is he going to do that?
The guy keeps getting hurt doing what exactly? Not playing or practicing for this team...
Obviously shoulder surgery takes time to heal just like a hamstring takes time to heal... but if you dont see the signs of an injury prone player who struggles to just take the damn field then IDK what else to say
Two injuries is not a trend. You need to relax.
It's all he has been known for to this point. And we didnt just him this summer.
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The guy keeps getting hurt doing what exactly? Not playing or practicing for this team...
Obviously shoulder surgery takes time to heal just like a hamstring takes time to heal... but if you dont see the signs of an injury prone player who struggles to just take the damn field then IDK what else to say
Two injuries is not a trend. You need to relax.
Looking at his injury history it definitely isn't. His shoulder got really screwed up his junior year and it cost him last year. Hamstring pulls happen in camp. What an overreaction.
that hamstring injuries take time to heal. Players who come back to early often re-aggravate the injury. Sure, it's not ideal that he's missing time, but he's an important piece to this secondary. I'd rather he get this hammy healthy before the games actually count.
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Tanney throws high to Slayton but the kid hauls in the pass with a beautiful reception. Slayton impressive so far.
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Grant Haley with a blitz - would have absolutely destroyed Lauletta in live action. Good to see Haley back.
A 3rd year Rookie, next season. And all the shit I'm saying now.. everyone will be saying next year.
Odell's hamstring cost him all of training camp PLUS 4 weeks of the regular season. Beal is no Odell meaning he is not coming back week 5 lighting the league up... puh-lease... Shurmur said he would be "ready soon"... about 3 weeks ago! You bet your house on this kid, Eric and others, if you want to... I'm not. That's just my opinion period
Not trying to stir anything up just my last take on Beal. Sorry for keeping it going.
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#GiantsCamp - SShepard (thumb) has caught at least three passes in 11 on 11 ... no doubt, the plan to keep him in sync is working
A Tuesday surprise. Co-owner John Mara is addressing media after #Giants practice today. Hasn’t addressed local media as a whole since Giants drafted Eli Manning’s successor sixth overall in April. Unusual. Now a last-minute decision to speak today.
Sorry, just figured I'd get these stupid comments out of the way early today.
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Veterans Antoine Bethea, Kevin Zeitler and Mike Remmers getting the day off.
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CB DeAndre Baker (knee), CB Sam Beal (hamstring) and LB Alec Ogletree (calf) not practicing today.
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Wayne Gallman joining the crew on the side that includes DeAndre Baker (knee), Sam Beal (hamstring), Alec Ogletree (calf), Brian Mihalik (burner) and Isaiah Searight (?). Still no sign of George Asafo-Adjei (concussion).
Because he has a hamstring injury? Wow.
Interesting that Slade is getting first team RT reps ahead of Chad Wheeler
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Right side of the OL with Zeitler and Remmers getting a day off: RG Nick Gates, RT Chad Slade. Looks like it’ll be a game prep practice with scout teams so probably light on notes.
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Is awful. What I'm going to say next is a bit premature, I'll admit that, but the truth is that I have zero faith in this kid to ever stay healthy or to produce on the field for this team. There are a handful of guys we could have used with a pick at the top of round 3 in this past draft. Jaylon Ferguson, David Montgomery or Chase Winovich, Connor McGovern to name a few... Beal is looking more and more like a bust.
Because he has a hamstring injury? Wow.
He cant make it on the god damn field. Not just this year. Last year too. How many years does he get without showcasing anything?
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Wayne Gallman joining the crew on the side that includes DeAndre Baker (knee), Sam Beal (hamstring), Alec Ogletree (calf), Brian Mihalik (burner) and Isaiah Searight (?). Still no sign of George Asafo-Adjei (concussion).
Anyone else concerned about GAA's concussion? This is seeming to be taking a bit to come back from. Concussions and the long term effects or potential are scary. He is missing so much valuable time gotta believe he is heading towards PS or IR if he doesn't get cleared in next 3-5 days.
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - Eli hits an open Fowler on a deep post
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Is awful. What I'm going to say next is a bit premature, I'll admit that, but the truth is that I have zero faith in this kid to ever stay healthy or to produce on the field for this team. There are a handful of guys we could have used with a pick at the top of round 3 in this past draft. Jaylon Ferguson, David Montgomery or Chase Winovich, Connor McGovern to name a few... Beal is looking more and more like a bust.
Because he has a hamstring injury? Wow.
He cant make it on the god damn field. Not just this year. Last year too. How many years does he get without showcasing anything?
He had shoulder surgery. He's not milking anything...
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To me, based on where he was picked and kind of a project to begin with, you stash him on IR. He is too far behind right now and still not cleared to play.
You are asking if we are going to see Beal, who has a hamstring injury in which the coach says he is close to coming back, play this year?
Is this a serious question?
Obviously shoulder surgery takes time to heal just like a hamstring takes time to heal... but if you dont see the signs of an injury prone player who struggles to just take the damn field then IDK what else to say
if you are referring to the Leonard article, he is saying that Zeke is one of the best players in the league he should be paid like it. He shouldn't take a discount because he plays RB
Obviously shoulder surgery takes time to heal just like a hamstring takes time to heal... but if you dont see the signs of an injury prone player who struggles to just take the damn field then IDK what else to say
Two injuries is not a trend. You need to relax.
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Latimer and Slayton back on kick returns.
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Golden as well returning kicks (not Markus)
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Baker gets hurt you would think this would be Beal's big opportunity. But no hes hurt too.. Beal is like a year 2 rookie and on top of that the year 1 rookies are ahead of him because they have been practicing while Beal hasn't been doing anything. Look what Ballentine has done since joining the team late... Beal hasn't done jack shit yet. Losing patience with the guy is all.
You are asking if we are going to see Beal, who has a hamstring injury in which the coach says he is close to coming back, play this year?
Is this a serious question?
I'm not asking IF... I'm asking when? And how long until he gets hurt again? And when is he ever going to showcase why he should get on the field ahead of Janoris, DeAndre, Corey B, Love or Haley?? A full year and almost half of a preseason and we still have seen nothing Eric. That is all. I'm not giving up on him. I'm just losing patience with him not being able yo do ANYTHINH, I dont see any reason to be optimistic about Beal producing for this team until he proves otherwise and without being able to play, HELLO, how the hell is he going to do that?
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - Eli perfect bomb goes through hands of Latimer down L side
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The guy keeps getting hurt doing what exactly? Not playing or practicing for this team...
Obviously shoulder surgery takes time to heal just like a hamstring takes time to heal... but if you dont see the signs of an injury prone player who struggles to just take the damn field then IDK what else to say
Two injuries is not a trend. You need to relax.
It's all he has been known for to this point. And we didnt just him this summer.
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#GiantsCamp - Eli to Tate on L sideline but WR cant haul in juggling grab....Next snap, Eli rifles a 20 yd dart to Engram for a nice gain on R side
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The guy keeps getting hurt doing what exactly? Not playing or practicing for this team...
Obviously shoulder surgery takes time to heal just like a hamstring takes time to heal... but if you dont see the signs of an injury prone player who struggles to just take the damn field then IDK what else to say
Two injuries is not a trend. You need to relax.
Looking at his injury history it definitely isn't. His shoulder got really screwed up his junior year and it cost him last year. Hamstring pulls happen in camp. What an overreaction.
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#GiantsCamp - Jones hits Jones with a tightrope on a R crossing route
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Wheeler and Adams with the 2s at tackle.
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Tanney throws high to Slayton but the kid hauls in the pass with a beautiful reception. Slayton impressive so far.
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BJ Hill just beat Wheeler inside - would have been a sack of Tanney.
I hope he plays Friday
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Grant Haley with a blitz - would have absolutely destroyed Lauletta in live action. Good to see Haley back.
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Three straight plays - now it’s Tae Davis who would have lit up Lauletta.
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Make that four - Tae Davis untouched again.
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#GiantsCamp - Lauletta wide on a long L out to White, but responds with a laser completion to DSlayton over the middle
In recent years, it seemed like most of the depth was ill prepared to step in.
In this camp, the veterans sit and the backups go against the 1's and build chemistry as well.
It's a long season, injuries are a certainty and this approach could pay off down the road.
It will be interesting to observe as the season progresses.
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#GiantsCamp - Lauletta hits White for a 60yd TD on a R post vs Tolliver
Odell's hamstring cost him all of training camp PLUS 4 weeks of the regular season. Beal is no Odell meaning he is not coming back week 5 lighting the league up... puh-lease... Shurmur said he would be "ready soon"... about 3 weeks ago! You bet your house on this kid, Eric and others, if you want to... I'm not. That's just my opinion period
Not trying to stir anything up just my last take on Beal. Sorry for keeping it going.
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#GiantsCamp - SShepard (thumb) has caught at least three passes in 11 on 11 ... no doubt, the plan to keep him in sync is working
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A Tuesday surprise. Co-owner John Mara is addressing media after #Giants practice today. Hasn’t addressed local media as a whole since Giants drafted Eli Manning’s successor sixth overall in April. Unusual. Now a last-minute decision to speak today.
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Tate, Slayton, and Jones back for pints