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NFT: Mets @ Braves Game 1: Wheeler v Fried

ChaChing : 8/13/2019 7:20 pm
J. McNeil2B
A. RosarioSS
P. Alonso1B
JD DavisLF
W. RamosC
M. ConfortoRF
T. Frazier3B
J. LagaresCF
Z. WheelerP

R. Acuna Jr.LF
O. Albies2B
F. Freeman1B
J. Donaldson3B
B. McCannC
M. JoyceRF
E. InciarteCF
C. CulbersonSS
M. FriedP

Might be getting the Braves at a good time between injuries and some poor play, esp the BP. Also no Soroka this series who iirc has been their best SP (tho of course they dodge NYM's 2 best). LGFM, need to keep winning series no matter the comp
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Decent outing for Szapucki  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2019 8:35 am : link
5 IP, 2H, 1 ER, 3BB. 5K's 78 pitches.

might be his longest outing of the year.
I was happy when we got to their bullpen  
5BowlsSoon : 8/14/2019 8:39 am : link
But Jackson and Melancon did their job well. Greene realizes he is not pitching in Detroit in front of 2,000 people.....many people are watching him now! (Can you say choking?)
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pjcas18 : 8/14/2019 8:43 am : link
Michael Mayer
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Mets Minors notable hitters 8/13

Syracuse
Dilson Herrera 3-4, RBI, 2B

Binghamton
Will Toffey 1-4, HR, BB

St. Lucie
Jacob Zanon 3-6, BB, SB

Columbia
Chandler Avant 2-3, 2B

Brooklyn
Luke Ritter 1-3, HR, 3 RBI, 2 BB

Kingsport
Scott Ota 3-4, 2 2B

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Mets Minors notable pitchers 8/13

Syracuse
Ervin Santana 4.1 IP, 8 ER

Binghamton
Mickey Jannis 6 IP, 0 ER, 10 K
Kevin Smith 6 IP, 0 ER, 5 K

St. Lucie
Thomas Szapucki 5 IP, ER, 5 K

Columbia
Colin Holderman 4.2 IP, 0 R, 4 K

Kingsport
Junior Santos 3 IP, ER, 4 K
Lowrie  
TyreeHelmet : 8/14/2019 8:54 am : link
Any update? What a weird season for him. Does he have a bad history of injuries?
RE: Lowrie  
Metnut : 8/14/2019 9:03 am : link
In comment 14529857 TyreeHelmet said:
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Any update? What a weird season for him. Does he have a bad history of injuries?


He's had his share of injuries in the past but put up 600+ ABs the previous two years.
RE: ATL's BP has been a huge issue - they only added most of those guys  
Jay on the Island : 8/14/2019 10:59 am : link
In comment 14529771 Eric on Li said:
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as a last resort in the last few months because the guys before them sucked. Blevins started the year on a minor league deal and got DFA'd twice, Swarzak has been traded/salary dumped 3x in the last 6 months, and Melancon completes the trash heap trifecta getting named closer after giving up 4 runs in his first 5 innings as a brave. He got the job because Shane Greene has blown 2 saves in his first 4 innings as a Brave and has an 11 ERA.

Don't get me wrong all those guys may actually be better than what Atlanta had prior - but none of these teams in the NL East have good bullpens and it's almost comical how bad they all are. As bad as ours has been I think just about every team would take it from this point in the season forward if they had the choice. Even if just because of Lugo.

You're absolutely right Eric. The Braves bullpen was atrocious to start the season but then they improved significantly for about 3 weeks only to struggle again.

The Shane Greene trade has been as I feared thus far. He was playing in a no pressure situation in Detroit and playing way over his head with significant luck. Now he is in a pennant race and struggling mightily. Melancon has been very good so far and might be their closer moving forward by default if Greene continues to struggle. Greene has given up 2 more earned runs in 4.1 IP with Atlanta than he did in 38 IP with Detroit.

Mets apparently  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2019 11:24 am : link
calling up Tejada over Herrera.

I would have preferred Herrera just for the versatility and OPS potential.

RE: Mets apparently  
Eric on Li : 8/14/2019 11:42 am : link
In comment 14530076 pjcas18 said:
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calling up Tejada over Herrera.

I would have preferred Herrera just for the versatility and OPS potential.


Herrera is k'ing 27% of the time in AAA and hitting .250 (both numbers better than his career numbers at the MLB level). He walks less than Tejada too, so really his only advantage is the occasional long ball.

I doubt either will do much and I'd prefer Guillorme getting starts over both by a very healthy margin, but for a bench role I actually agree with Tejada > Herrera. While his .330 BA is likely the product of an unusually high BABIP he's got the better contact skills and we know he can take professional at bats. And maybe, just maybe, he's improved a little bit in the power department now that he's 29 years old and likely a little stronger than he was a few years ago. His 6 homers this year are already the most he's ever posted in any season of his career going back to when he was a prospect. Also his highest slg% year.
RE: RE: ATL's BP has been a huge issue - they only added most of those guys  
Eric on Li : 8/14/2019 11:44 am : link
In comment 14530036 Jay on the Island said:
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The Shane Greene trade has been as I feared thus far. He was playing in a no pressure situation in Detroit and playing way over his head with significant luck. Now he is in a pennant race and struggling mightily. Melancon has been very good so far and might be their closer moving forward by default if Greene continues to struggle. Greene has given up 2 more earned runs in 4.1 IP with Atlanta than he did in 38 IP with Detroit.


I'm surprised Greene has been this bad but also still a SSS. In a non-closer role I think he will eventually be a positive contributor, but he's definitely even more volatile than a typical reliever.
RE: RE: Mets apparently  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2019 11:53 am : link
In comment 14530113 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 14530076 pjcas18 said:


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calling up Tejada over Herrera.

I would have preferred Herrera just for the versatility and OPS potential.




Herrera is k'ing 27% of the time in AAA and hitting .250 (both numbers better than his career numbers at the MLB level). He walks less than Tejada too, so really his only advantage is the occasional long ball.

I doubt either will do much and I'd prefer Guillorme getting starts over both by a very healthy margin, but for a bench role I actually agree with Tejada > Herrera. While his .330 BA is likely the product of an unusually high BABIP he's got the better contact skills and we know he can take professional at bats. And maybe, just maybe, he's improved a little bit in the power department now that he's 29 years old and likely a little stronger than he was a few years ago. His 6 homers this year are already the most he's ever posted in any season of his career going back to when he was a prospect. Also his highest slg% year.


You need to keep in mind this player is replacement/insurance for McNeil so Guillorme is of little consequence.

Herrera IMO is the better fit for that.
also it's certainly disappointing to not have Kay/SWR in the system  
Eric on Li : 8/14/2019 11:54 am : link
but overall this year has gone well enough that they've avoided what could be a disastrous situation in terms of minor league pitching depth. Allen and Wolf from the draft was exactly what was needed and early returns are promising. Smith breaking out was again something that was needed considering the lack of depth. Peterson seeming righting the ship and progressing was needed. Szapucki coming back strong was needed. Santos doing well was needed.

Not nearly out of the woods by any means but the system is a lot less empty than any of us would have guessed at this time last year if we were told that Kay/Dunn/SWR were going to get traded and Kilome was going down to TJS. 9 months ago those were our top 4 pitching prospects.
RE: RE: RE: Mets apparently  
Eric on Li : 8/14/2019 12:03 pm : link
In comment 14530127 pjcas18 said:
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You need to keep in mind this player is replacement/insurance for McNeil so Guillorme is of little consequence.

Herrera IMO is the better fit for that.


Davis and Conforto will likely be the COF'ers every day so Lagares is going to be the main replacement for Mcneil until Nimmo is health (if ever). I'm a little surprised they didn't just call up Davis but perhaps they want to get him back into the swing of things since he's only played 5 games since getting healthy again.

Panik seems the most risk of losing time to whoever comes up until he starts hitting, but Guillorme should be the first guy up for that (over Tejada/Herrera). And if that happens Tejada is probably best suited to the role currently occupied by Guillorme.
McNeil to the DL  
Metnut : 8/14/2019 1:05 pm : link
They can't afford to swoon while he's gone.
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