. @7BOOMERESIASON says Odell Beckham ‘took himself off the field’ for #Giants after his big pay day. Exaggerating injury? ‘That takes a lot of chestnuts’ https://www.nj.com/giants/2019/08/boomer-esiason-odell-beckham-quit-on-giants-after-big-pay-day-that-takes-a-lot-of-chestnuts.html … #nyg #NYGiants #nyg
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From @rydunleavy: Boomer Esiason says Odell Beckham Jr. ‘Took himself off the field after big pay day from #Giants’ https://www.nj.com/giants/2019/08/boomer-esiason-odell-beckham-quit-on-giants-after-big-pay-day-that-takes-a-lot-of-chestnuts.html …
Boomer Esiason: Odell Beckham quit on Giants after big pay day | ‘That takes a lot of chestnuts’
He had his payday, he had his numbers... once the team had nothing to play for, he seemed to decide that protecting his body was more important than being out there for his team.
Maybe that's not what happened, but it sure seems that way to me... and it's been suggested by a few different people in a few different corners now. Based on the way he's acted at times, it certainly wouldn't surprise me.
No one should want that type of mentality here. No matter how good the player is.
All you need to do is watch the onside kick vs the Bears... Â
But I bet his willingness to play with some bumps and bruises was a lot less in the last 4 games. Again I stated this as the season ended...
There is a rumor that OBJ texted Shurmur before the Redskins game and said "good luck without me... haha"
Never saw that rumor before. Jesus, Odell is a massive douche. Guys like him I hope never get to experience the ultimate success, that being a Super Bowl win.
the statement that rang loudest was Eli hoped one day they could all put this behind them and laugh about it.
But being that OBJ is the only one who did the talking, you can assume that Eli and probably a lot of his teammates didnt support him privately as many think.
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there have been interceptions and pass breakups through camp, this doesnt seem right to me
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If that what the coach wants to see, he has a reason. Which is why you can never believe "the defense is ahead of the
offense" etc. The coach can make the practice anyway he wants for any reasons he wants. Bill Parcells told us this long ago. So tweet what you will it's no more right or wrong than any of your camp tweets.
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#Giants running carded practice for Bears game. .. Sinkfield closed to knock down a pass in L flat earlier - so far, only splash play of the day.
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#Giants running carded practice for Bears game. .. Sinkfield closed to knock down a pass in L flat earlier - so far, only splash play of the day.
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#Giants running carded practice for Bears game. .. Sinkfield closed to knock down a pass in L flat earlier - so far, only splash play of the day.
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there have been interceptions and pass breakups through camp, this doesnt seem right to me
I think it's more specific to today's practice, not a general thing for camp.
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there have been interceptions and pass breakups through camp, this doesnt seem right to me
I think it's more specific to today's practice, not a general thing for camp.
Well, he did include yesterday where there were 2 INT's that were positively noted by the media in attendance.
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RE: RE: Duggan on Athletic said Beal has completed one practice Â
He wasnt the only one... shit I quit on this team too at that point.
And the way the season ended, I didnt see guys like SS, Barkley, Engram, Ogletree, Solder quit. Just seems like the ones who arent here anymore.
Odell was injured. Why come back week 16 or 17? To risk getting hurt, again?
I'm just saying I know we look for reasons to fry Odell but this is a reach IMO. Half the fans here on BBI quit on the team after the 1-8 start in 2017 and they quit again after the 1-7 start in 2018, kind of rightfully so I guess. I'm not going to pick on Odell for not recovering from his injury fast enough so that he could have helped us win a extra game or 2 at the end ofast season which ultimately accomplishes nothing other than giving us the 15th or so pick instead of the 6th...
RE: RE: RE: Yeah... but the team was 1-7 halfway through last season Â
He wasnt the only one... shit I quit on this team too at that point.
And the way the season ended, I didnt see guys like SS, Barkley, Engram, Ogletree, Solder quit. Just seems like the ones who arent here anymore.
Odell was injured. Why come back week 16 or 17? To risk getting hurt, again?
I'm just saying I know we look for reasons to fry Odell but this is a reach IMO. Half the fans here on BBI quit on the team after the 1-8 start in 2017 and they quit again after the 1-7 start in 2018, kind of rightfully so I guess. I'm not going to pick on Odell for not recovering from his injury fast enough so that he could have helped us win a extra game or 2 at the end ofast season which ultimately accomplishes nothing other than giving us the 15th or so pick instead of the 6th...
Okay. Just for Beal-specific posts. Gotcha.
RE: RE: RE: Yeah... but the team was 1-7 halfway through last season Â
He wasnt the only one... shit I quit on this team too at that point.
And the way the season ended, I didnt see guys like SS, Barkley, Engram, Ogletree, Solder quit. Just seems like the ones who arent here anymore.
Odell was injured. Why come back week 16 or 17? To risk getting hurt, again?
I'm just saying I know we look for reasons to fry Odell but this is a reach IMO. Half the fans here on BBI quit on the team after the 1-8 start in 2017 and they quit again after the 1-7 start in 2018, kind of rightfully so I guess. I'm not going to pick on Odell for not recovering from his injury fast enough so that he could have helped us win a extra game or 2 at the end ofast season which ultimately accomplishes nothing other than giving us the 15th or so pick instead of the 6th...
Equating fans and players and putting them on the same playing field is enough to discredit the rest of your post entirely.
What a ridiculous comparison. We're not the ones playing the games and we're not getting paid by the Giants.
If this is the precedent you want to set, then maybe Barkley shouldn't have played any of those last games, either. Heck, just play all backups when you're out of contention... why not go all the way?
RE: All you need to do is watch the onside kick vs the Bears... Â
Meh. That one was more on Riley than Beckham. I'm not an OBJ apologist by any means, but the onside kick failure was very much a team effort. Plus, Brown made a really nice play.
implode this year if they don't get off to a fast start.
It could happen with a first year head coach and someone as disruptive and polarizing as OBJ (still so weird that that is a generally accepted truth now!). But man, that team is pretty stacked offensively and very talented defensively. I also think Mayfield has a personality that's galvanizing to his teammates.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Yeah... but the team was 1-7 halfway through last season Â
He wasnt the only one... shit I quit on this team too at that point.
And the way the season ended, I didnt see guys like SS, Barkley, Engram, Ogletree, Solder quit. Just seems like the ones who arent here anymore.
Odell was injured. Why come back week 16 or 17? To risk getting hurt, again?
I'm just saying I know we look for reasons to fry Odell but this is a reach IMO. Half the fans here on BBI quit on the team after the 1-8 start in 2017 and they quit again after the 1-7 start in 2018, kind of rightfully so I guess. I'm not going to pick on Odell for not recovering from his injury fast enough so that he could have helped us win a extra game or 2 at the end ofast season which ultimately accomplishes nothing other than giving us the 15th or so pick instead of the 6th...
Equating fans and players and putting them on the same playing field is enough to discredit the rest of your post entirely.
What a ridiculous comparison. We're not the ones playing the games and we're not getting paid by the Giants.
If this is the precedent you want to set, then maybe Barkley shouldn't have played any of those last games, either. Heck, just play all backups when you're out of contention... why not go all the way?
If Barkley was the least bit banged up, I'm sure many would have advocated putting him on the shelf. As you yourself advocated they do with OBJ at the time. If not advocated, at least posed no opposition to the prospect.
I mean we all saw the leg whip he got hurt on. He wasn't fabricating an injury. He did go get checked out at HSS. Was all that a clever ruse?
People are advocating limiting Barkley's touches this year and we haven't even played a game.
Wishing him," good luck without me." if that occurred then I could see the Giant brain trust being completely done with him at that moment. It would then be easy to come to a mutual decision involving the medical staff to hold him out for the last four games.
Gets got an incredible return for a guy that they were done with. ( see Steelers deal for diva wide receiver.) The entire management team would have had to be complicit with the plan to offload a sunk cost. That could have been the play of the year...
RE: Yeah... but the team was 1-7 halfway through last season Â
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. @7BOOMERESIASON says Odell Beckham ‘took himself off the field’ for #Giants after his big pay day. Exaggerating injury? ‘That takes a lot of chestnuts’ https://www.nj.com/giants/2019/08/boomer-esiason-odell-beckham-quit-on-giants-after-big-pay-day-that-takes-a-lot-of-chestnuts.html … #nyg #NYGiants #nyg
From @rydunleavy: Boomer Esiason says Odell Beckham Jr. ‘Took himself off the field after big pay day from #Giants’ https://www.nj.com/giants/2019/08/boomer-esiason-odell-beckham-quit-on-giants-after-big-pay-day-that-takes-a-lot-of-chestnuts.html …
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That's no excuse. As one of the supposed leaders of the team and one of it's biggest stars he needs to set an example for the rest of the team.
But what about Dave? Did he keep posting?
And the way the season ended, I didnt see guys like SS, Barkley, Engram, Ogletree, Solder quit. Just seems like the ones who arent here anymore.
Guess it's a little more out there than people realized.
There is a rumor that OBJ texted Shurmur before the Redskins game and said "good luck without me... haha"
Disagree with that vibe - a lot of guys kept playing hard all the way through, and the team played better down the stretch.
I have no opinion on the “Odell quit” suggestion by Boomer, but I can’t think of any other examples of guys who did
Maybe that's not what happened, but it sure seems that way to me... and it's been suggested by a few different people in a few different corners now. Based on the way he's acted at times, it certainly wouldn't surprise me.
No one should want that type of mentality here. No matter how good the player is.
If his team is about to get the ball back with less than 1:00 to go in the half - will he be on the field or getting his IV?
There is a rumor that OBJ texted Shurmur before the Redskins game and said "good luck without me... haha"
Never saw that rumor before. Jesus, Odell is a massive douche. Guys like him I hope never get to experience the ultimate success, that being a Super Bowl win.
That was Shurmurs call, he told him to stay home. And who could blame him. he didnt want the distraction
God knows I'd wish you'd quit now too.
He s getting paid to play, no excuses for quitting,, Symptomatic of what was wrong with that team
But being that OBJ is the only one who did the talking, you can assume that Eli and probably a lot of his teammates didnt support him privately as many think.
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Beal not practicing again?????
What the F????
That's not true. He practiced during the OTAs.
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Do you guys still stalk your ex wives/girlfriends a year later?
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Anyone live tweeting the Giants offensive plays today and yesterday unfollow them immediately. New CB Terrell Sinkfield was just told you’re supposed to let them catch the ball. These aren’t fully live drills. #Giants
there have been interceptions and pass breakups through camp, this doesnt seem right to me
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Anyone live tweeting the Giants offensive plays today and yesterday unfollow them immediately. New CB Terrell Sinkfield was just told you’re supposed to let them catch the ball. These aren’t fully live drills. #Giants
If that what the coach wants to see, he has a reason. Which is why you can never believe "the defense is ahead of the
offense" etc. The coach can make the practice anyway he wants for any reasons he wants. Bill Parcells told us this long ago. So tweet what you will it's no more right or wrong than any of your camp tweets.
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how are we supposed to interpret this?
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - Given the thin OT spots, good for Wheeler's (back) return to taking snaps again.
Perhaps Wheeler practicing with the 3rd team the other day had more to do with easing him back rather than his performance.
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They have a Jax locker room.
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There is a rumor that OBJ texted Shurmur before the Redskins game and said "good luck without me... haha"
Should have replied "we don't need luck, we got Mark Sanchez"
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Cut him because he can't follow directions?
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#Giants running carded practice for Bears game. .. Sinkfield closed to knock down a pass in L flat earlier - so far, only splash play of the day.
Cut him because he can't follow directions?
Stinkfield!!!!
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there have been interceptions and pass breakups through camp, this doesnt seem right to me
I think it's more specific to today's practice, not a general thing for camp.
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there have been interceptions and pass breakups through camp, this doesnt seem right to me
I think it's more specific to today's practice, not a general thing for camp.
Well, he did include yesterday where there were 2 INT's that were positively noted by the media in attendance.
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Since being drafted. I'm hoping that's a mistake.
That's not true. He practiced during the OTAs.
he is probably talking about training camp practices
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Since being drafted. I'm hoping that's a mistake.
That's not true. He practiced during the OTAs.
he is probably talking about training camp practices
Did you drop your other handle in general? Or only for Beal-specific posts?
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He wasnt the only one... shit I quit on this team too at that point.
And the way the season ended, I didnt see guys like SS, Barkley, Engram, Ogletree, Solder quit. Just seems like the ones who arent here anymore.
Odell was injured. Why come back week 16 or 17? To risk getting hurt, again?
I'm just saying I know we look for reasons to fry Odell but this is a reach IMO. Half the fans here on BBI quit on the team after the 1-8 start in 2017 and they quit again after the 1-7 start in 2018, kind of rightfully so I guess. I'm not going to pick on Odell for not recovering from his injury fast enough so that he could have helped us win a extra game or 2 at the end ofast season which ultimately accomplishes nothing other than giving us the 15th or so pick instead of the 6th...
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He wasnt the only one... shit I quit on this team too at that point.
And the way the season ended, I didnt see guys like SS, Barkley, Engram, Ogletree, Solder quit. Just seems like the ones who arent here anymore.
Odell was injured. Why come back week 16 or 17? To risk getting hurt, again?
I'm just saying I know we look for reasons to fry Odell but this is a reach IMO. Half the fans here on BBI quit on the team after the 1-8 start in 2017 and they quit again after the 1-7 start in 2018, kind of rightfully so I guess. I'm not going to pick on Odell for not recovering from his injury fast enough so that he could have helped us win a extra game or 2 at the end ofast season which ultimately accomplishes nothing other than giving us the 15th or so pick instead of the 6th...
Okay. Just for Beal-specific posts. Gotcha.
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He wasnt the only one... shit I quit on this team too at that point.
And the way the season ended, I didnt see guys like SS, Barkley, Engram, Ogletree, Solder quit. Just seems like the ones who arent here anymore.
Odell was injured. Why come back week 16 or 17? To risk getting hurt, again?
I'm just saying I know we look for reasons to fry Odell but this is a reach IMO. Half the fans here on BBI quit on the team after the 1-8 start in 2017 and they quit again after the 1-7 start in 2018, kind of rightfully so I guess. I'm not going to pick on Odell for not recovering from his injury fast enough so that he could have helped us win a extra game or 2 at the end ofast season which ultimately accomplishes nothing other than giving us the 15th or so pick instead of the 6th...
Equating fans and players and putting them on the same playing field is enough to discredit the rest of your post entirely.
What a ridiculous comparison. We're not the ones playing the games and we're not getting paid by the Giants.
If this is the precedent you want to set, then maybe Barkley shouldn't have played any of those last games, either. Heck, just play all backups when you're out of contention... why not go all the way?
It could happen with a first year head coach and someone as disruptive and polarizing as OBJ (still so weird that that is a generally accepted truth now!). But man, that team is pretty stacked offensively and very talented defensively. I also think Mayfield has a personality that's galvanizing to his teammates.
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He wasnt the only one... shit I quit on this team too at that point.
And the way the season ended, I didnt see guys like SS, Barkley, Engram, Ogletree, Solder quit. Just seems like the ones who arent here anymore.
Odell was injured. Why come back week 16 or 17? To risk getting hurt, again?
I'm just saying I know we look for reasons to fry Odell but this is a reach IMO. Half the fans here on BBI quit on the team after the 1-8 start in 2017 and they quit again after the 1-7 start in 2018, kind of rightfully so I guess. I'm not going to pick on Odell for not recovering from his injury fast enough so that he could have helped us win a extra game or 2 at the end ofast season which ultimately accomplishes nothing other than giving us the 15th or so pick instead of the 6th...
Equating fans and players and putting them on the same playing field is enough to discredit the rest of your post entirely.
What a ridiculous comparison. We're not the ones playing the games and we're not getting paid by the Giants.
If this is the precedent you want to set, then maybe Barkley shouldn't have played any of those last games, either. Heck, just play all backups when you're out of contention... why not go all the way?
If Barkley was the least bit banged up, I'm sure many would have advocated putting him on the shelf. As you yourself advocated they do with OBJ at the time. If not advocated, at least posed no opposition to the prospect.
I mean we all saw the leg whip he got hurt on. He wasn't fabricating an injury. He did go get checked out at HSS. Was all that a clever ruse?
People are advocating limiting Barkley's touches this year and we haven't even played a game.
Gets got an incredible return for a guy that they were done with. ( see Steelers deal for diva wide receiver.) The entire management team would have had to be complicit with the plan to offload a sunk cost. That could have been the play of the year...
Well that’s a real shitty take. Team sucks? It’s ok to quit!
Changing the channel seems to me to be slightly different than accepting a paycheck and playing hookey.