We haven't talked about this specifically in awhile so I figured I'd get a discussion going.
Luis Medina pitched 7 shutout innings, allowing just two hits and striking out 10. He has finally started to show the results that the stuff says he should be producing.
Josh Stowers is tearing the cover off the ball in August, hitting .391.
Josh Breaux was erroneously reported to be out for the season but he's back and had a big homerun the other day.
Ezequiel Duran hit his 11th HR for SI last night, not bad for a quick twitch middle IF.
3rd rounder Jake Sanford hit his 4th HR last night to walk SI off in extras.
Abreu came back last night and had a forgettable appearance, but he's off the IL so that's positive.
Luis Gil went on the IL with what was described as a minor injury.
If one of the tanking teams was smart they'd steal Wade from the Yankees for a MiLB pitching lottery ticket and give him 1000 PA's to see if he can hit enough for his + speed and glove to work in MLB.
MLB stats for either player are to small and inconsistent of a proper sample size to make any judgement IMV.
I cannot comprehend that the Yankees are not screaming at the league office on a weekly basis.
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a lot of good info in there. Some quibbles, but it's clear work went into it. Link - ( New Window )
Thanks. Some of these 'guys' are BABIES. How accurate can these predictions be??
They're not particularly accurate, but they're drawing on national pubs, a little bit of personal observation, and maybe some chatter if they're close enough to be privy to it, and from there you get a sense of how these guys might be valued by the Yankees and by other teams. Outside of the guys with legit star potential that's about the best you can ask.
2B Brandon Wagner, who broke out last year at Tampa but who has struggled mightily this year at Trenton (HRs dropped from 21 to 8, hitting sub-Mendoza)
OF Josh Stowers, who has been tattooing the ball all month for Charleston and whose 33 SBs lead the farm.
RHP Daniel Bies, a 6'8" hurler who killed it at Charleston but whose command has deserted him at Tampa.
And RHP Glenn Otto, the most talented of the bunch, limited to just 56 IP so far by injuries but with legit 2-3 stuff if he can stay healthy and it all comes together.
2B Brandon Wagner, who broke out last year at Tampa but who has struggled mightily this year at Trenton (HRs dropped from 21 to 8, hitting sub-Mendoza)
OF Josh Stowers, who has been tattooing the ball all month for Charleston and whose 33 SBs lead the farm.
RHP Daniel Bies, a 6'8" hurler who killed it at Charleston but whose command has deserted him at Tampa.
And RHP Glenn Otto, the most talented of the bunch, limited to just 56 IP so far by injuries but with legit 2-3 stuff if he can stay healthy and it all comes together.
Just 5 - is that a normal size contingent for AFL?
MLB stats for either player are to small and inconsistent of a proper sample size to make any judgement IMV.
AAA numbers are meaningless for projecting MLB performance, IMO. I've seen far too many AAA superstars who can't even hit their own weight in the major leagues. The numbers tell you what they can do against AAA pitching and nothing more.
However, if you want to go there, I would strongly suggest that you take note that Wade has been in AAA for three seasons now- and has not gotten better over time. His best AAA season was in 2017. He regressed significantly in 2018. He recovered somewhat in 2019- but the numbers are still WELL short of his 2017 production. So, which AAA numbers do you want to use? 2018? 2017? 2019? He is 24 years old- he is what he is at this point.
A second issue that is also rather important to the discussion- Wade is also out of options after this season. Estrada still has an option remaining. In other words, Wade is in the "must make the team in 2020" mode. They can't send him to the minors next year without having him clear waivers.
As for the small sample sizes, Wade has now had multiple opportunities stretched out over 3 seasons. Quite simply, not only does he have no record of success, but he has not shown any indication that he can even be a league average hitter.
Estrada has just a single season of AAA (he lost 2018 recovering from a gunshot wound). He also has a similar short period of MLB opportunity.
The difference is stark. Both Wade and Estrada were used in a backup capacity- neither were given extended starting opportunities. Wade has failed each and every opportunity given him over a 3 year period. Estrada has not shined, but was at least replacement level in his opportunity- which is already more than Wade has ever done in the majors.
The fact remains that the Yanks are in a window of championship opportunities that will extend for a number of years. That means roster spots are at a premium and they can't keep giving opportunities to guys who can't get the job done- especially when they have had multiple chances. They need players who can come up and fill the role they were brought in for.
Some, like Urshula, have overachieved compared to expectations. Others, like Cortes, struggled at first but then steadied themselves and have become at least useful.
Still others failed in their initial opportunities- but then at least found some success later- like Higashioka who was pretty bad in 2018- but has been useful when needed in 2019. I put Frazier in this category too- was awful in 2017 and got almost no opportunity in 2018- but produced (at least offensively but not defensively) this season.
At some point, a player has to show SOMETHING, because others are always right behind him. An out-of-options Wade offers next to nothing to the Yanks, especially with no indications that he can be even league average with the bat.
Maybe Wade goes somewhere else and becomes a starter- but the Yanks don't have the time to wait years for a backup to figure it out and fail time after time. They will just move on to the next option.
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C Donny Sands, who has struggled offensively at Tampa but who appears to be making strides defensively (CS rate up, attempts against him down, PB rate halved).
2B Brandon Wagner, who broke out last year at Tampa but who has struggled mightily this year at Trenton (HRs dropped from 21 to 8, hitting sub-Mendoza)
OF Josh Stowers, who has been tattooing the ball all month for Charleston and whose 33 SBs lead the farm.
RHP Daniel Bies, a 6'8" hurler who killed it at Charleston but whose command has deserted him at Tampa.
And RHP Glenn Otto, the most talented of the bunch, limited to just 56 IP so far by injuries but with legit 2-3 stuff if he can stay healthy and it all comes together.
Just 5 - is that a normal size contingent for AFL?
I think they get to send two more, but I could be mistaken.
The eligibility rules to play in the AFL are simple.
The roster size is 30 players per team.
Each Major League organization is required to provide six players subject to the following requirements:
All Triple-A and Double-A players are eligible, provided the players are on at least a Double-A level roster no later than Aug. 1.
One player below the Double-A level is allowed per Major League team.
One foreign player is allowed, as long as the player does not reside in a country that participates in winter ball, as part of the Caribbean Confederation or the Australian winter league.
No players with more than one year of credited Major League service as of August 31 are eligible, except a team may select one player picked in the most recently concluded Major League Rule 5 Draft.
To be eligible, players on Minor League disabled lists must be activated at least 45 days before the conclusion of their respective seasons.
Yes, I looked at your post again after reading those rules and was wondering about that. But what I posted is from MLB.com, so go figure.
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but you lost me at "False equivalency"... Perhaps you meant "False equivalence?" Anyway, referencing both Wade and Estrada AAA numbers this year is quite relevant to the type of players they are and probably project to be.
MLB stats for either player are to small and inconsistent of a proper sample size to make any judgement IMV.
AAA numbers are meaningless for projecting MLB performance, IMO. I've seen far too many AAA superstars who can't even hit their own weight in the major leagues. The numbers tell you what they can do against AAA pitching and nothing more.
However, if you want to go there, I would strongly suggest that you take note that Wade has been in AAA for three seasons now- and has not gotten better over time. His best AAA season was in 2017. He regressed significantly in 2018. He recovered somewhat in 2019- but the numbers are still WELL short of his 2017 production. So, which AAA numbers do you want to use? 2018? 2017? 2019? He is 24 years old- he is what he is at this point.
A second issue that is also rather important to the discussion- Wade is also out of options after this season. Estrada still has an option remaining. In other words, Wade is in the "must make the team in 2020" mode. They can't send him to the minors next year without having him clear waivers.
As for the small sample sizes, Wade has now had multiple opportunities stretched out over 3 seasons. Quite simply, not only does he have no record of success, but he has not shown any indication that he can even be a league average hitter.
Estrada has just a single season of AAA (he lost 2018 recovering from a gunshot wound). He also has a similar short period of MLB opportunity.
The difference is stark. Both Wade and Estrada were used in a backup capacity- neither were given extended starting opportunities. Wade has failed each and every opportunity given him over a 3 year period. Estrada has not shined, but was at least replacement level in his opportunity- which is already more than Wade has ever done in the majors.
The fact remains that the Yanks are in a window of championship opportunities that will extend for a number of years. That means roster spots are at a premium and they can't keep giving opportunities to guys who can't get the job done- especially when they have had multiple chances. They need players who can come up and fill the role they were brought in for.
Some, like Urshula, have overachieved compared to expectations. Others, like Cortes, struggled at first but then steadied themselves and have become at least useful.
Still others failed in their initial opportunities- but then at least found some success later- like Higashioka who was pretty bad in 2018- but has been useful when needed in 2019. I put Frazier in this category too- was awful in 2017 and got almost no opportunity in 2018- but produced (at least offensively but not defensively) this season.
At some point, a player has to show SOMETHING, because others are always right behind him. An out-of-options Wade offers next to nothing to the Yanks, especially with no indications that he can be even league average with the bat.
Maybe Wade goes somewhere else and becomes a starter- but the Yanks don't have the time to wait years for a backup to figure it out and fail time after time. They will just move on to the next option.
I understand your take Rich and it's well articulated. Wade has 3 years of options remaining according to Sportac FYI.
I am of the belief that Wade will be a guy that has 350+ OBA potential, combined with a very good glove and plus speed. This is a valuable asset for NYY or any other team for that matter. The kid hits and produces at AAA consistently and is inside a development process.