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NFT: Mets at Braves Game 2: Matz

ZGiants98 : 8/14/2019 7:04 pm
Mets Lineup

Amed Rosario SS
J.D. Davis LF
Pete Alonso 1B
Wilson Ramos C
Michael Conforto RF
Todd Frazier 3B
Ruben Tejada 2B
Juan Lagares CF
Steven Matz P

Braves Lineup

Ronald Acuna Jr. RF
Ozzie Albies 2B
Freddie Freeman 1B
Josh Donaldson 3B
Adam Duvall LF
Johan Camargo SS
Ender Inciarte CF
Tyler Flowers C
Dallas Keuchel P

Ugly lineup. Hope for the best! LFGM!
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RE: RE: That  
DanMetroMan : 8/15/2019 11:33 am : link
In comment 14531067 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14531059 DanMetroMan said:


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Utley/Tejada stuff is such BS and Tejada added fuel to the fire.



Agree, but Preston Wilson has a point about common courtesy among athletes - you read about it all the time in many sports:



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Preston Wilson
@PrestonWilson44
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15h
When Biggio was injured as a result of my slide the first thing I did after the game was call their clubhouse to check on him and talk to him about it. Call it professional courtesy or just human decency. You should at least reach out to show you care. It could be you one day.




I like Preston Wilson but he's off here. Utley DID reach out through Wright AND sent him a bottle of tequila.
Utley reached out thru Wright?  
McNally's_Nuts : 8/15/2019 1:05 pm : link
Okay, and?

Can't be man enough to do it yourself?

RE: I'm even more furious this morning  
Section331 : 8/15/2019 1:33 pm : link
In comment 14530863 Chris684 said:
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after listening to know nothings Boomer and Gio on WFAN try to tell everyone why Callaway was right.



It is what is wrong with so much of sports "analysis", they try so hard to go against the grain that they make insupportable arguments.
RE: That  
schabadoo : 8/15/2019 1:44 pm : link
In comment 14531059 DanMetroMan said:
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Utley/Tejada stuff is such BS and Tejada added fuel to the fire.


Pretty innocuous stuff. Just seemed like he was just answering a question. He hasn't spoken to him.

They created a new rule due to Utley's slide, btw.
RE: Well at least  
5BowlsSoon : 8/15/2019 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14530916 pjcas18 said:
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we had some meaningful August baseball.

not throwing in the towel, but if the Mets don't stop the bleeding and go on another prolonged winning streak they're done (captain obvious?)


Too bad Mets aren’t in the AL....almost one third of those teams are gimmes so it is much easier to rattle off 10 in a row there. Just play Orioles, Tigers, Seattle, or KC (blue jays are improving) and you don’t even have to bring your A team and you have 14 in a row.
Mickey embarrassing himself  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2019 6:20 pm : link


Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
Callaway: “I bet 85 percent of our decisions go against the analytics. And that is how it’s always going to be, because that is just on paper. It doesn’t take into account the person is a human being, how he performs in these big spots, all these things a manager looks at.”
6:13 PM · Aug 15, 2019·Twitter Web App
RE: Mickey embarrassing himself  
PhiPsi125 : 8/15/2019 6:42 pm : link
In comment 14531500 pjcas18 said:
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Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
Callaway: “I bet 85 percent of our decisions go against the analytics. And that is how it’s always going to be, because that is just on paper. It doesn’t take into account the person is a human being, how he performs in these big spots, all these things a manager looks at.”
6:13 PM · Aug 15, 2019·Twitter Web App


Mickey literally never looks at those things. Never.
And people mocked  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2019 6:48 pm : link
Davey Johnson because he used a computer to aid his decisions.

We've come full circle.
Alonso  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2019 7:32 pm : link
3 run bomb, #39.

Loved this:
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Matt Ehalt
@MattEhalt
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1m
Is it too early to pull Stroman for Lugo?

LOL
451 feet on the Alonso bomb  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2019 7:37 pm : link


Mathew Brownstein
@MBrownstein89
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4m
Most home runs in a player’s first 120 career games:

Mark McGwire: 40
Pete Alonso: 39
Cody Bellinger: 38

#Mets #LGM
RE: Mickey embarrassing himself  
ChaChing : 8/15/2019 7:42 pm : link
In comment 14531500 pjcas18 said:
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Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
Callaway: “I bet 85 percent of our decisions go against the analytics. And that is how it’s always going to be, because that is just on paper. It doesn’t take into account the person is a human being, how he performs in these big spots, all these things a manager looks at.”
6:13 PM · Aug 15, 2019·Twitter Web App

Man Mick is a fucking idiot. Yes, analytics in the specific moment are just a piece of the puzzle. But "does't take into account" shit - yeah it does, it includes EVERY AB, during which his personal situations apply each time...

Now you can't glean that from the numbers, we know that. Which is why YOU LEAVE MATZ IN WHEN HE'S KILLING IT...even when his overall ERA is higher than Lugo's or R bats are coming up or a statistical decline 3rd time through / late game...you know, like you did 2 starts ago with him in his CG (derp)

Seriously, even pro mgrs don't understand how to use stats most times it seems
Teheran  
ChaChing : 8/15/2019 8:10 pm : link
can't find the SZ at all. 9 balls out of last 10. Please do not swing 1st pitch at least!!!
Last nights game  
KDubbs : 8/15/2019 8:11 pm : link
Is probably going to haunt us for the rest of the year. Finish 3-3 and we’ll be ok. Somehow go 4-2 and everything is good
Rosario on fire  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2019 8:15 pm : link
if he maintains, it will solve a problem going forward some people felt existed but really doesn't.

Also, Dilson Herrera 2 HR's today. Mets made the wrong call with Tejada IMO.

wouldn't matter tonight, Panik on base twice.
Ramos: either good for a DP or runs  
ChaChing : 8/15/2019 8:18 pm : link
Nothing in between lol
Ramos  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2019 8:19 pm : link
KO's Teheran.

Stroman just needs to be ok and get through 6, hopefully not get complacent - Braves O can score in bunches.

Lagares cracks the Mendoza line. May he never look back  
Ira : 8/15/2019 8:34 pm : link
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Almost exactly since I said I've given up on Lagares...  
ChaChing : 8/15/2019 8:34 pm : link
he's had solid ABs and gotten a bunch of hits. Lets goooooo Juan
So a former AL pitcher in Stro bunts better than basically every Met  
ChaChing : 8/15/2019 8:35 pm : link
?
RE: Rosario on fire  
Gmanfandan : 8/15/2019 8:47 pm : link
In comment 14531590 pjcas18 said:
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if he maintains, it will solve a problem going forward some people felt existed but really doesn't.

Also, Dilson Herrera 2 HR's today. Mets made the wrong call with Tejada IMO.

wouldn't matter tonight, Panik on base twice.


Rueben looked like he didn't belong out there. Hope that changes.
Stroman  
KDubbs : 8/15/2019 8:48 pm : link
Hasnt really been a good pickup yet. 3 starts he hasnt been very good
Right...  
ChaChing : 8/15/2019 8:49 pm : link
0-outs, bases juiced after 2 walks, a passed ball & a glove malfunction. Donaldson up, he with his .400+ vs the Mets

7 feels like not enough already...
Tho that was a quick close to the inning  
ChaChing : 8/15/2019 8:50 pm : link
7-1, not bad after 0-outs & bases loaded
Pete...2 RBI single  
ChaChing : 8/15/2019 9:21 pm : link
big night even outside the HR. 9-2 in the 5th
Phils and cards losing late  
KDubbs : 8/15/2019 9:38 pm : link
We can get some help on top of a win here. Nats play brewers so if we can somehow sweep the royals, we sill gain ground on someone
What a night for big Pete so far. 4-4 with a walk, a hr and 6 rbi's  
Ira : 8/15/2019 10:02 pm : link
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Huge game to salvage  
Metnut : 8/15/2019 10:16 pm : link
Have a nice weekend in KC with our best pitchers going and we’ll still be right there.
RE: What a night for big Pete so far. 4-4 with a walk, a hr and 6 rbi's  
ChaChing : 8/15/2019 10:18 pm : link
In comment 14531701

And Rosario a HR away from the cycle too, Lagares 3 hits for the 2nd game in 3 i believe

Rosario w/ another hit tho...5 hits
GS Walk of by Harper  
Gmanfandan : 8/15/2019 10:22 pm : link
Off Holland - do no ground there
Cubs bullpen collapses  
Mike in NY : 8/15/2019 10:22 pm : link
Harper with walk off grand slam
RE: GS Walk of by Harper  
KDubbs : 8/15/2019 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14531713 Gmanfandan said:
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Off Holland - do no ground there


No ground on phils but the cubs and cards we gain on with a win.
Guess I was right way b4  
ChaChing : 8/15/2019 10:50 pm : link
7 ain't enough runs...10-7 now...but 2 outs so this 'should' get done damnit
Im not scared  
Gmanfandan : 8/15/2019 10:50 pm : link
You're scared! Maybe we'll need Diaz for the save (gulp)
Drew Gagnon  
nygfaninorlando : 8/15/2019 10:50 pm : link
not good.
Jfc  
KDubbs : 8/15/2019 10:50 pm : link
Earth to Mickey
MFer  
ChaChing : 8/15/2019 10:50 pm : link
10-8
Maybe he’ll put Matz in  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/15/2019 10:52 pm : link
.
Why give Gagnon  
nygfaninorlando : 8/15/2019 10:53 pm : link
a 2nd inning?
This game  
KDubbs : 8/15/2019 10:54 pm : link
Is gonna be a loss. I fucking hate watching Diaz pitch
Are you kidding me?  
nygfaninorlando : 8/15/2019 10:54 pm : link
4 pitch walk from Diaz.
Aaaaaand Diaz, he of 3 HRs in last 4 outings  
ChaChing : 8/15/2019 10:55 pm : link
and now a 4 pitch walk, tying run at the plate. At least that's not Mickey's fault, but wtf
Big fucking deal  
KDubbs : 8/15/2019 10:56 pm : link
Diaz might be the fucking worst closer in a long line of shitty closers. Fuck him
wins a win  
Gmanfandan : 8/15/2019 10:56 pm : link
Lets get to KC and get back in this thing
The bullpen  
sshin05 : 8/15/2019 10:58 pm : link
just wow, wow. Gagnon is probably not going to KC at this rate.
Mets bullpen is fire  
giantsFC : 8/15/2019 11:07 pm : link
Can they just bring back retired out of shape greats.
John Franco, Jesse Orosco, Roger McDowell, Jeff Innis, Turk Wendell could do better in 2019.

Heck where is Colon or RA Dickey?
Gagnon shouldn't have been in for a 2nd inning  
moespree : 8/15/2019 11:22 pm : link
And certainly shouldn't have stayed in once there was the slightest sign of trouble. The manager is a dope. And is Riggleman just stealing money? What exactly is he doing? I thought he was hired to prevent Mickey from being a dope.
Not that he's any driving force  
ChaChing : 8/15/2019 11:29 pm : link
but it seems Panik was a good get. Solidified the D and is producing a bit on O (i think mostly scoring runs, but yea!). Decent to have in the bot lineup while that continues, esp as a tough K

Better than the black holes we seen...as related really nice to see Lagares bump a bit. Would be huge if he can give us something on O, if not just spd on the bags
On the bright side, Lagares is hot and deserves regular playing time  
Ira : 8/16/2019 7:24 am : link
at least until he's not. Rosario and Big Pete each had 5 hits. Alonso was amazing with his 6 rbi's.
Big W  
10thAve : 8/16/2019 7:32 am : link
Get a sweep here in KC to keep it moving.

Alonso seems like a guy who says to the team, “f*ck this, I got this tonight” and puts the team on his back when it’s needed most, like last night.

During the rain delay the other night I was watching the pre-game and it was an interview with Gelbs and Randazzo with Alonso, it was really interesting. Alonso’s high school said he would never be a college ball player, he was doubted through college and the minors, and you can tell that drives him. He also had some choice words for the scouts who shat on him in the minors about his defense.
Agree  
5BowlsSoon : 8/16/2019 1:54 pm : link
Should have won 2 with Matz but with cream puff Royals up next, a sweep is very possible.
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