If it hadn’t I probably would have given up on it. IMO though It just isn’t what I would describe as a really good show, yet it feels like it could have be.
The land and scenery is as gorgeous as that land really is.
As in all Westerns, the land is a star onto itself and dominates the motivations of many of the characters.
The flavor and details of ranch life seem to match what I know of it
Costner is good enough. The Luke Grimes and his wife characters are good enough and interesting enough.
It has the classic Western fight between races and interests ( water, development, land, family feuding intensified because of the importance and wealth of land based assets is not distributable and does not allow much time away from manual labor. It has the corrupt town politicians and the out of state resource/land grabbers. It has the kid variation a la Shane. It has the folks seeking redemption.
It is starting to touch on the role of the local rodeo's and ranch hand life in the Wyoming/Western Washington/Idaho/Montana life style.
It wastes Kelly Reilly or the character is too angry to be real or Kelly Reilly is one dimensional or all of the above.
Don't like the character as written who is the leader of the Native Americans.
I think Costner is doing a good job of being narcicist, and the actress who plays his daughter is one mean SOB. I don't like his son the lawyer, but I like his son Casey.
The land and scenery is as gorgeous as that land really is.
As in all Westerns, the land is a star onto itself and dominates the motivations of many of the characters.
The flavor and details of ranch life seem to match what I know of it
Costner is good enough. The Luke Grimes and his wife characters are good enough and interesting enough.
It has the classic Western fight between races and interests ( water, development, land, family feuding intensified because of the importance and wealth of land based assets is not distributable and does not allow much time away from manual labor. It has the corrupt town politicians and the out of state resource/land grabbers. It has the kid variation a la Shane. It has the folks seeking redemption.
It is starting to touch on the role of the local rodeo's and ranch hand life in the Wyoming/Western Washington/Idaho/Montana life style.
It wastes Kelly Reilly or the character is too angry to be real or Kelly Reilly is one dimensional or all of the above.
Don't like the character as written who is the leader of the Native Americans.
I agree with all this Bill2 other than the show being true to ranch life/geography, since I have no idea about that in reality, but it seems realistic which is good enough for me.
I don't get the genesis of Beth's hate for Jamie. There has to be something there. It's downright vitriolic.
I have seen every episode and the hate was clear from the beginning, but I don't remember an actual reason and he's never said "why do you hate me so much" so to me that's an implication he knows.
anyway, I agree her anger is a little over the top, but it's softened by Monica. More Monica less Beth IMO would make for a better show.
Only disagreement is the Native American leader (Thomas Rainwater) I like him in that role, I just think they don't give him enough of a role.
but what I found even more odd was when the father couldn't say he loved Jamie, all but admitting to Beth he agreed with her and only treating him differently than she does out of family loyalty and moral responsibility.
It would have made sense if Jamie not Beth was the cause or the mothers accident but right now it doesn't really add up.
The family is dysfunctional to say the least.
As far as other charterers, while playing an unlikable one, I like Danny Huston. He adds a lot to the show and more focus on him and his predicament is probably a large part of why it's more interesting this season.
I also think showing the back story of Rip and broadening his role has helped.
Weirdly, although different and less of a Western and more a police show, I liked Longmire a lot. You?
I started watching it, and I don't remember exactly why, probably a lot going on in my life or something, but just forgot about it and missed that series. I did like what I saw the first episode or two. I might have to see if I can find it again sometime.
With the mom's death. Last episode when he asked the one brother if he forgives him. I dont think that has to do with recent BS. And when Beth made a point of saying she will end whatever future happiness he ever finds, if it kills her to do it... that suggests he caused some deep traumatic loss of a loved one to her and her current psychotic demeanor is a result of that. I think it's the mom.
I echo Bill2's take on it. The cinematography and landscape can be breathtaking and really gives each episode something to look forward to.
I definitely felt that way with season 1. It was just good enough to keep me watching.
I think season 2 addresses some of that, and IMO this season has gotten better as it's gone on.
This season is a bit better than last season.
As in all Westerns, the land is a star onto itself and dominates the motivations of many of the characters.
The flavor and details of ranch life seem to match what I know of it
Costner is good enough. The Luke Grimes and his wife characters are good enough and interesting enough.
It has the classic Western fight between races and interests ( water, development, land, family feuding intensified because of the importance and wealth of land based assets is not distributable and does not allow much time away from manual labor. It has the corrupt town politicians and the out of state resource/land grabbers. It has the kid variation a la Shane. It has the folks seeking redemption.
It is starting to touch on the role of the local rodeo's and ranch hand life in the Wyoming/Western Washington/Idaho/Montana life style.
It wastes Kelly Reilly or the character is too angry to be real or Kelly Reilly is one dimensional or all of the above.
Don't like the character as written who is the leader of the Native Americans.
As in all Westerns, the land is a star onto itself and dominates the motivations of many of the characters.
The flavor and details of ranch life seem to match what I know of it
Costner is good enough. The Luke Grimes and his wife characters are good enough and interesting enough.
It has the classic Western fight between races and interests ( water, development, land, family feuding intensified because of the importance and wealth of land based assets is not distributable and does not allow much time away from manual labor. It has the corrupt town politicians and the out of state resource/land grabbers. It has the kid variation a la Shane. It has the folks seeking redemption.
It is starting to touch on the role of the local rodeo's and ranch hand life in the Wyoming/Western Washington/Idaho/Montana life style.
It wastes Kelly Reilly or the character is too angry to be real or Kelly Reilly is one dimensional or all of the above.
Don't like the character as written who is the leader of the Native Americans.
I agree with all this Bill2 other than the show being true to ranch life/geography, since I have no idea about that in reality, but it seems realistic which is good enough for me.
I don't get the genesis of Beth's hate for Jamie. There has to be something there. It's downright vitriolic.
I have seen every episode and the hate was clear from the beginning, but I don't remember an actual reason and he's never said "why do you hate me so much" so to me that's an implication he knows.
anyway, I agree her anger is a little over the top, but it's softened by Monica. More Monica less Beth IMO would make for a better show.
Only disagreement is the Native American leader (Thomas Rainwater) I like him in that role, I just think they don't give him enough of a role.
It would have made sense if Jamie not Beth was the cause or the mothers accident but right now it doesn't really add up.
The family is dysfunctional to say the least.
As far as other charterers, while playing an unlikable one, I like Danny Huston. He adds a lot to the show and more focus on him and his predicament is probably a large part of why it's more interesting this season.
I also think showing the back story of Rip and broadening his role has helped.
I started watching it, and I don't remember exactly why, probably a lot going on in my life or something, but just forgot about it and missed that series. I did like what I saw the first episode or two. I might have to see if I can find it again sometime.
I echo Bill2's take on it. The cinematography and landscape can be breathtaking and really gives each episode something to look forward to.