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Garrett and the Cowboys are still calling Cooper's injury a day-to-day issue, for what it's worth. "He's making progress, and we're certainly not gonna rush him back," Garrett said earlier this week in a press conference. "...He's getting closer and closer. He's working on the side. We don't think this is a long-term thing, but we just want to be deliberate in bringing him back." Adding more mud to the water, though, Garrett was vague regarding what tests have been run. "I don't know the exact medical procedures he's gone through," he noted. "But suffice it to say he's been evaluated a ton of different ways." |
Damn beat me to it.
Will he take Cooper into the woods?????
LT too!
Dak - more accomplished than Wentz and fewer injuries so he should get paid more than Wentz
Elliott - arguably the best RB so why shouldn't he surpass Gurley's deal? And again, doesn't have the injury history that Gurley does.
Zeke I agree with, but he's under contract. Take that up with the union for agreeing to 4 year rookie contracts.
LT too!
And Phil Simms in 1990
Zeke I agree with, but he's under contract. Take that up with the union for agreeing to 4 year rookie contracts.
I personally agree re: Zeke, but since Dallas as (reportedly) offered him a deal, likely an extension, they don't necessarily see things the same.
I also agree that Dak isn't a top 10 QB, but any competent QB is going to get paid and if you're Dak and his attorney, how do you accept an offer below Wentz's?
That's the point, Dak is not better than Wentz, nor is he a top 10 QB, it's just his turn on the "QB salary wheel." Dallas is in a tough spot. Dak can play in the NFL, but they have significant doubts if he can lead them to a SB win. If they don't sign him, and he catches lightning in a bottle, they'll have a Joe Flacco circa 2012 contract to pay out this coming offseason ($45M/year?). If they do pay him, they may have the next Andy Dalton situation to live with.
This is not too dissimilar to the Kirk Cousins scenario in Washington the past 3 offseasons.
He's won the NFC East twice, and he has one more playoff win.
he has a better completion percentage, equal in yards and TDs. And he has a better win/loss record
Dak: 48 G 32-16 record (.666 winning %)
Wentz: 40 G 23-17 record (.575 winning %) with Foles 7-2 excluding the postseason over that time
Dak: 66.1%
Wentz: 63.7%
Dak: 2.68 TD:INT
Wentz: 2.5 TD:INT
Dak: 226.6 ypg
Wentz: 253.8 ypg
Dak: 7.4 y/a
Wentz: 7.0 y/a
Rushing
Dak: 189 att 944 yds 18 TDs 5.0 y/a
Wentz: 144 att 542 yds 2 TDs 3.8 y/a
So Dak has the better winning %, comp %, TD:INT ratio, higher Y/A (arguably the most important passing stat), and better rushing #s. Wentz has a significant edge in yards/game but that's it.
You can argue that Wentz had 2 losing seasons considering he was 5-6 when he got hurt last year
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gotta hear this rationale. Wentz is a much better QB, his problem is injuries but if i'm paying $35m for either of them its going to be Wentz 100 times out of 100 and i'll deal with the injury when it happens.
That's the point, Dak is not better than Wentz, nor is he a top 10 QB, it's just his turn on the "QB salary wheel." Dallas is in a tough spot. Dak can play in the NFL, but they have significant doubts if he can lead them to a SB win. If they don't sign him, and he catches lightning in a bottle, they'll have a Joe Flacco circa 2012 contract to pay out this coming offseason ($45M/year?). If they do pay him, they may have the next Andy Dalton situation to live with.
This is not too dissimilar to the Kirk Cousins scenario in Washington the past 3 offseasons.
I disagree. The argument for Wentz getting more is that he has a higher ceiling and still hasn't reached his potential whereas most people argue that Dak's a "game manager" that benefits from those around him. I happen to agree with that argument, but if you look at the stats, Dak has been the better QB to date.
And it's not like Wentz is playing behind the Giants OL. The Philly OL isn't far behind Dallas' and their WRs (including Ertz) are significantly better than Dallas'. I think the Philly offensive coaching staff is substantially better too. Only clear advantage Dallas has in coaching/personnel is Zeke (obviously significant).
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gotta hear this rationale. Wentz is a much better QB, his problem is injuries but if i'm paying $35m for either of them its going to be Wentz 100 times out of 100 and i'll deal with the injury when it happens.
Dak: 48 G 32-16 record (.666 winning %)
Wentz: 40 G 23-17 record (.575 winning %) with Foles 7-2 excluding the postseason over that time
Dak: 66.1%
Wentz: 63.7%
Dak: 2.68 TD:INT
Wentz: 2.5 TD:INT
Dak: 226.6 ypg
Wentz: 253.8 ypg
Dak: 7.4 y/a
Wentz: 7.0 y/a
Rushing
Dak: 189 att 944 yds 18 TDs 5.0 y/a
Wentz: 144 att 542 yds 2 TDs 3.8 y/a
So Dak has the better winning %, comp %, TD:INT ratio, higher Y/A (arguably the most important passing stat), and better rushing #s. Wentz has a significant edge in yards/game but that's it.
This data is heavily skewed because of Wentz's rookie season vs Dak's which really isn't all that relevant to today since Dak has regressed (statistically) while Wentz when healthy has been significantly better.
If that's your argument, than its not worth my time. The 2 QB's are pretty far apart in skill, IMO. And fuck the 1 more playoff win, without Went'z MVP caliber regular season Eagles don't get to or win the Superbowl.
Philly paying Wentz was a gamble he'll be good enough, and the contract will normalize relative to the market in a few years.
Stats say he’s captain checkdown and that’s been the case. He has trouble throwing downfield so he takes safer options short. He struggles downfield. His percentage of uncatchable balls is not good. This is a guy whose benefitted from playing behind one of the best offensive lines in football. Reality is he’s an average quarterback by all accounts. That being said I really truly hope Dallas pays him...and Zeke...and Cooper.
And as we know, the offensive line is the most important thing, and while Philly's is good, Dak plays behind 3 All-Pros and 2 other pretty good linemen.
I hope Dallas does pay Dak Prescott the huge money. Because honestly, he's a replacement level player. There are plenty of guys around the league who can do what Prescott does. Washington has 3 quarterbacks who are as good as Prescott.
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gotta hear this rationale. Wentz is a much better QB, his problem is injuries but if i'm paying $35m for either of them its going to be Wentz 100 times out of 100 and i'll deal with the injury when it happens.
Dak: 48 G 32-16 record (.666 winning %)
Wentz: 40 G 23-17 record (.575 winning %) with Foles 7-2 excluding the postseason over that time
Dak: 66.1%
Wentz: 63.7%
Dak: 2.68 TD:INT
Wentz: 2.5 TD:INT
Dak: 226.6 ypg
Wentz: 253.8 ypg
Dak: 7.4 y/a
Wentz: 7.0 y/a
Rushing
Dak: 189 att 944 yds 18 TDs 5.0 y/a
Wentz: 144 att 542 yds 2 TDs 3.8 y/a
So Dak has the better winning %, comp %, TD:INT ratio, higher Y/A (arguably the most important passing stat), and better rushing #s. Wentz has a significant edge in yards/game but that's it.
Wow, never realized this is how they stack up.
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gotta hear this rationale. Wentz is a much better QB, his problem is injuries but if i'm paying $35m for either of them its going to be Wentz 100 times out of 100 and i'll deal with the injury when it happens.
Dak: 48 G 32-16 record (.666 winning %)
Wentz: 40 G 23-17 record (.575 winning %) with Foles 7-2 excluding the postseason over that time
Dak: 66.1%
Wentz: 63.7%
Dak: 2.68 TD:INT
Wentz: 2.5 TD:INT
Dak: 226.6 ypg
Wentz: 253.8 ypg
Dak: 7.4 y/a
Wentz: 7.0 y/a
Rushing
Dak: 189 att 944 yds 18 TDs 5.0 y/a
Wentz: 144 att 542 yds 2 TDs 3.8 y/a
So Dak has the better winning %, comp %, TD:INT ratio, higher Y/A (arguably the most important passing stat), and better rushing #s. Wentz has a significant edge in yards/game but that's it.
Nyg fans love to kill dak. And dak just keeps on helping Dallas to a winning record year after year. I only hope and pray we are saying the same thing about Daniel jones here. I’d sign for “shitty dak” production in a fucking heartbeat .
I think NYG fans have a more balanced view than unhinged Tucker, it would be wonderful if Jerry over spends 35-40 million a year on a mediocre QB like Dak, no one is saying he's terrible, solidly in the top 10-20 QB tier.
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Dak's comp% in 2018 essentially matched his rookie season. His yards/game was also the best mark of his career. His rookie year INT% was obviously unsustainable, but his INT% last year was very good and better than any mark in Wentz's career. And their Y/A were comparable last season, despite Wentz playing with significantly better WR/TE talent.
And as we know, the offensive line is the most important thing, and while Philly's is good, Dak plays behind 3 All-Pros and 2 other pretty good linemen.
I hope Dallas does pay Dak Prescott the huge money. Because honestly, he's a replacement level player. There are plenty of guys around the league who can do what Prescott does. Washington has 3 quarterbacks who are as good as Prescott.
It's not like Philly's OL is trash. Kelce's got 2 straight 1st team All Pro awards. Lane Johnson was all pro 2017 and pro bowl last season. Peters isn't elite anymore, but he was excellent and earned a pro bowl Wentz's rookie season. And Brandon Brooks ain't too bad either (2x pro bowler).
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gotta hear this rationale. Wentz is a much better QB, his problem is injuries but if i'm paying $35m for either of them its going to be Wentz 100 times out of 100 and i'll deal with the injury when it happens.
Dak: 48 G 32-16 record (.666 winning %)
Wentz: 40 G 23-17 record (.575 winning %) with Foles 7-2 excluding the postseason over that time
Dak: 66.1%
Wentz: 63.7%
Dak: 2.68 TD:INT
Wentz: 2.5 TD:INT
Dak: 226.6 ypg
Wentz: 253.8 ypg
Dak: 7.4 y/a
Wentz: 7.0 y/a
Rushing
Dak: 189 att 944 yds 18 TDs 5.0 y/a
Wentz: 144 att 542 yds 2 TDs 3.8 y/a
So Dak has the better winning %, comp %, TD:INT ratio, higher Y/A (arguably the most important passing stat), and better rushing #s. Wentz has a significant edge in yards/game but that's it.
Wow, never realized this is how they stack up.
Wentz has a much higher upside, but you know what you're gonna get out of Dak, with Wentz I'm not sure if he can last a full season
He’s probably about average when all is said n done. I’d still feel better about playing Dallas if dak wasn’t behind center and they went with an unproven kid.
Whatever happens I hope it ends badly for Dallas.
Couldn’t agree more.
Not a good injury for a WR. He'll probably be dealing with it all season long.