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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/16/2019 7:23 pm
Not expected to play tonight #CHIvsNYG:

RB Barkley (coaches decision)
RB Gallman (ankle)
CB Beal (hamstring)
CB Baker (knee)
LB Ogletree (calf)
OT Mihalik (burner)
OT Asafo-Adjei (concussion)
WR Slayton (hamstring)
WR S. Shepard (thumb)
TE Engram (coaches decision)
LS Zak DeOssie (toe)
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RE: RE: RE: I can tell BBI  
Brown_Hornet : 8/16/2019 9:53 pm : link
In comment 14533182 dep026 said:
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In comment 14533169 EricJ said:


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In comment 14533134 dep026 said:


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Is going to be unbearable once Eli plays at least the first 6-8 weeks. Now Daniel Jones is already better?

JFC



yeah this place is going to be unbearable.

The right move and the smart decision is to start Eli until this happens..

1. Eli has a couple of really bad games in a row
and/or
2. The team is like 2-6

Other than that, there is no way we are starting Jones early in the season.... and it does not matter how many nice looking passes he throws during pre-season.



Bingo. It’s really this simple. If Eli plays well and we are in the playoff hunt, there will be a lot of pissed off posters. I am positive of it.

+1
RE: RE: Ridiculous  
ChaChing : 8/16/2019 9:54 pm : link
In comment 14533152 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14533149 Marty866b said:
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Just run the ball in. Why get cute? Just stupidity.


Just stupid, stupid football. I don't care if it is preseason. And on the play before, they were in the shotgun.

This is the shit that drives me nuts with the coaches.

But but but Pete Carroll insists it's the smart play on the goaline...
Seems like we should be happy  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 8/16/2019 9:54 pm : link
That we have a guy that looks like our next QB whether he plays now or later.
and i am not even saying start jones week 1  
nygiants16 : 8/16/2019 9:54 pm : link
but he has to play this year, eli is not your starter next year
RE: RE: RE: RE: I can tell BBI  
dep026 : 8/16/2019 9:54 pm : link
In comment 14533185 nygiants16 said:
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you are not giving up on the season and what is wrong with going with your future qb?

I get everyone loves eli but if you wemt with jones i dont think the players would think you are giving up on thr season...

and didnt the giants do it to start eli?


So you’re going to tell the team that guy who has performed better all of camp, established veteran - that ehhh you’re done. You think that sends a good sign?

Shit... should we cut Bethea too and start love at FS too?
Odds are Jones will start later in the season,  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2019 9:55 pm : link
and I'm okay with that. Dude has also done himself some favors last week and tonight. 11/14 161, TD. Ridiculous.
RE: and i am not even saying start jones week 1  
dep026 : 8/16/2019 9:55 pm : link
In comment 14533193 nygiants16 said:
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but he has to play this year, eli is not your starter next year


And like everyone with a brain says... you play Eli until he is godawful for a few games or we are in the toilet record wise to start the year. If we are 9-3, should we bench Eli for Jones?
Not  
AcidTest : 8/16/2019 9:55 pm : link
a great decision by Tanney on that deep throw. But then a nice throw and an even better catch by Scott.
RE: Seems like we should be happy  
dep026 : 8/16/2019 9:56 pm : link
In comment 14533192 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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That we have a guy that looks like our next QB whether he plays now or later.


Bingo x2!
Bottom line they clusterfucked the transition  
micky : 8/16/2019 9:57 pm : link
Qb to qb
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I can tell BBI  
nygiants16 : 8/16/2019 9:58 pm : link
In comment 14533194 dep026 said:
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In comment 14533185 nygiants16 said:


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you are not giving up on the season and what is wrong with going with your future qb?

I get everyone loves eli but if you wemt with jones i dont think the players would think you are giving up on thr season...

and didnt the giants do it to start eli?



So you’re going to tell the team that guy who has performed better all of camp, established veteran - that ehhh you’re done. You think that sends a good sign?

Shit... should we cut Bethea too and start love at FS too?


It is going to be messy no matter when you do it...

Giants can be 3-5 and it is still going to be messy..

Here's the question  
crick n NC : 8/16/2019 9:58 pm : link
Would you prefer Manning to play well and be a playoff team, or for Manning to not play well, so Jones comes in?

Answer should be simple
RE: Bottom line they clusterfucked the transition  
Bill L : 8/16/2019 9:58 pm : link
In comment 14533200 micky said:
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Qb to qb
. Or sure there’s evidence of that. They have a an who can lead them and they have an heir apparent that’s learning.
RE: I can tell BBI  
BigBlueShock : 8/16/2019 9:58 pm : link
In comment 14533134 dep026 said:
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Is going to be unbearable once Eli plays at least the first 6-8 weeks. Now Daniel Jones is already better?

JFC

Wtf? Would you be happier if Jones has looked like shit? This is ridiculous. We should ALL be happy with what we’ve seen from Jones. It doesn’t make him better than Eli but what’s wrong with being excited about what we are seeing?

Do you honestly think that getting Jones in sooner rather than later is not better for the long term? Instead of being excited about Jones, you’re more worried about the reactions you’ll see regarding Eli if he doesn’t play well. And that’s pathetic.
RE: Bottom line they clusterfucked the transition  
Brown_Hornet : 8/16/2019 9:58 pm : link
In comment 14533200 micky said:
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Qb to qb
how so?
It's not outlandish  
MookGiants : 8/16/2019 9:59 pm : link
to think Jones can actually be better than Eli this year.

I'm still not sure what the point of having Eli on the team is. Getting paid a shit ton of money, is finished being a good football player and could create a real messy situation if not handled properly by Mara/Gettleman/Shurmur.

Judging by how Eli has been handled for a couple years now, it's probably going to be a shit show. There is a ton of risk, and very little reward. Everyone, Eli included, would have been far better off if he was cut in the off-season.

It's sad the way Eli's giants career is going to end. Terrific career that is going to have a black eye on it at the end because of the owner. McAdoo was a total clown, but he was right about Eli at this stage. McAdoo handled everything terribly, but he also gave the Giants a get out of jail free card where Mara and co. didn't have to be the bad guy and they could have parted ways that off-season, and they chose not to do that.

The 2019 season to me is mostly about Daniel Jones. I dont need to see Eli play a bunch of games and struggle to even be .500. Get Jones meaningful time and set your sights on bigger things for 2020. Hopefully don't let Barkley take a beating and hope that guys like Lorenzo Carter show great promise.

Way too great of a chance at a complete mess to even consider bringing Eli back this year.

The managements comments comparing the situation to Green Bay with Rodgers/Favre and KC with Smith/Mahomes scares the hell out of me. Eli has done absolutely nothing recently to make anyone believe the GIants can win 10+ games this year. The Packers/Chiefs were both playoff teams in those 2 QB's final seasons, Favre all the way to NFC title game. The Giants the last 2 seasons have been dreadful.

I'm just not sure what they are holding onto with Eli. The Giants couldn't handle the Eli situation worse if they were intentionally trying to have it blow up in their face.

This is Barkleys and Jones team now and hopefully for a long time. The sooner it's turned over to Jones, the better.

RE: Bottom line they clusterfucked the transition  
BillT : 8/16/2019 9:59 pm : link
In comment 14533200 micky said:
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Qb to qb

Because they should have released Eli before they drafted Jones or should they have not drafted Jones because they had Eli? Inquiring minds want to know.
Hilliman  
Simms11 : 8/16/2019 10:00 pm : link
Nice run.....little wiggle.
what i dont want  
nygiants16 : 8/16/2019 10:00 pm : link
is for the giants to be around 500 and barely in the playoff picture and the giants stick with eli because there is a slight chance they can make the playoffs
You'd think after the last 7 years everyone would be more focused  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2019 10:00 pm : link
on the future, but whatever. Either way, Jones' day is coming soon. I'm just happy about that.
RE: RE: I can tell BBI  
EricJ : 8/16/2019 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14533155 ajr2456 said:
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Yes, a rookie QB has never been better than a veteran from day one in the history of the NFL. I forgot about that.


Your untrained eye tells you that Jones is better right now. You have no idea what it takes to be a good QB.

Do you know whether Jones has absorbed the whole play book?
Do you know whether he is making all of the right adjustments at the line yet?
Do you know whether he is making the right reads?
Does anyone know whether he can deal with a real pass rush when the season starts?
Can you tell us how well he has played against a starting defense?

I have been a critic of Eli over the years. Dep will tell you that. However, you have to look at this objectively. There is no way that Jones is a better QB yet. If you still think that is the case, then someone needs to take your car keys away because your judgement is a huge issue right now.
Leave Eli alone!  
adamg : 8/16/2019 10:00 pm : link
RE: Bottom line they clusterfucked the transition  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/16/2019 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14533200 micky said:
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Qb to qb


Bringing the absolute LULZ as usual.
RE: RE: I can tell BBI  
dep026 : 8/16/2019 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14533204 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 14533134 dep026 said:


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Is going to be unbearable once Eli plays at least the first 6-8 weeks. Now Daniel Jones is already better?

JFC


Wtf? Would you be happier if Jones has looked like shit? This is ridiculous. We should ALL be happy with what we’ve seen from Jones. It doesn’t make him better than Eli but what’s wrong with being excited about what we are seeing?

Do you honestly think that getting Jones in sooner rather than later is not better for the long term? Instead of being excited about Jones, you’re more worried about the reactions you’ll see regarding Eli if he doesn’t play well. And that’s pathetic.


I think you misunderstood my post. I’ve been as pumped as anyone with Jones. I am just shaking my head at guys saying he should automatically start week 1.

There are posters here basically saying if we made the playoffs with Eli, that it was a wasted season since Jones didn’t start.

RE: RE: I can tell BBI  
Bill L : 8/16/2019 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14533204 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 14533134 dep026 said:


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Is going to be unbearable once Eli plays at least the first 6-8 weeks. Now Daniel Jones is already better?

JFC


Wtf? Would you be happier if Jones has looked like shit? This is ridiculous. We should ALL be happy with what we’ve seen from Jones. It doesn’t make him better than Eli but what’s wrong with being excited about what we are seeing?

Do you honestly think that getting Jones in sooner rather than later is not better for the long term? Instead of being excited about Jones, you’re more worried about the reactions you’ll see regarding Eli if he doesn’t play well. And that’s pathetic.
youre not hurting Jones by sitting him and you play each year to maximized your record. Not sure what’s wrong with that. It’s what normal professionals do.
Conrad buried someone on that TD run  
mfsd : 8/16/2019 10:00 pm : link
he’s going to enjoy seeing that on film tomorrow
RE: You'd think after the last 7 years everyone would be more focused  
dep026 : 8/16/2019 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14533212 Dave in Hoboken said:
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on the future, but whatever. Either way, Jones' day is coming soon. I'm just happy about that.


Shit you’ve been waiting 15 years...
RE: It's not outlandish  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/16/2019 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14533206 MookGiants said:
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to think Jones can actually be better than Eli this year.

I'm still not sure what the point of having Eli on the team is. Getting paid a shit ton of money, is finished being a good football player and could create a real messy situation if not handled properly by Mara/Gettleman/Shurmur.

Judging by how Eli has been handled for a couple years now, it's probably going to be a shit show. There is a ton of risk, and very little reward. Everyone, Eli included, would have been far better off if he was cut in the off-season.

It's sad the way Eli's giants career is going to end. Terrific career that is going to have a black eye on it at the end because of the owner. McAdoo was a total clown, but he was right about Eli at this stage. McAdoo handled everything terribly, but he also gave the Giants a get out of jail free card where Mara and co. didn't have to be the bad guy and they could have parted ways that off-season, and they chose not to do that.

The 2019 season to me is mostly about Daniel Jones. I dont need to see Eli play a bunch of games and struggle to even be .500. Get Jones meaningful time and set your sights on bigger things for 2020. Hopefully don't let Barkley take a beating and hope that guys like Lorenzo Carter show great promise.

Way too great of a chance at a complete mess to even consider bringing Eli back this year.

The managements comments comparing the situation to Green Bay with Rodgers/Favre and KC with Smith/Mahomes scares the hell out of me. Eli has done absolutely nothing recently to make anyone believe the GIants can win 10+ games this year. The Packers/Chiefs were both playoff teams in those 2 QB's final seasons, Favre all the way to NFC title game. The Giants the last 2 seasons have been dreadful.

I'm just not sure what they are holding onto with Eli. The Giants couldn't handle the Eli situation worse if they were intentionally trying to have it blow up in their face.

This is Barkleys and Jones team now and hopefully for a long time. The sooner it's turned over to Jones, the better.


Hi! I really wanted Darnold and spent a year bitching about it, so I'm going to repost a version of this whenever possible.

Wouldn't that just be an easier reply?
Not allowing challenge PI  
Steve in ATL : 8/16/2019 10:01 pm : link
on 2 point conversion
RE: It's not outlandish  
nygiants16 : 8/16/2019 10:02 pm : link
In comment 14533206 MookGiants said:
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to think Jones can actually be better than Eli this year.

I'm still not sure what the point of having Eli on the team is. Getting paid a shit ton of money, is finished being a good football player and could create a real messy situation if not handled properly by Mara/Gettleman/Shurmur.

Judging by how Eli has been handled for a couple years now, it's probably going to be a shit show. There is a ton of risk, and very little reward. Everyone, Eli included, would have been far better off if he was cut in the off-season.

It's sad the way Eli's giants career is going to end. Terrific career that is going to have a black eye on it at the end because of the owner. McAdoo was a total clown, but he was right about Eli at this stage. McAdoo handled everything terribly, but he also gave the Giants a get out of jail free card where Mara and co. didn't have to be the bad guy and they could have parted ways that off-season, and they chose not to do that.

The 2019 season to me is mostly about Daniel Jones. I dont need to see Eli play a bunch of games and struggle to even be .500. Get Jones meaningful time and set your sights on bigger things for 2020. Hopefully don't let Barkley take a beating and hope that guys like Lorenzo Carter show great promise.

Way too great of a chance at a complete mess to even consider bringing Eli back this year.

The managements comments comparing the situation to Green Bay with Rodgers/Favre and KC with Smith/Mahomes scares the hell out of me. Eli has done absolutely nothing recently to make anyone believe the GIants can win 10+ games this year. The Packers/Chiefs were both playoff teams in those 2 QB's final seasons, Favre all the way to NFC title game. The Giants the last 2 seasons have been dreadful.

I'm just not sure what they are holding onto with Eli. The Giants couldn't handle the Eli situation worse if they were intentionally trying to have it blow up in their face.

This is Barkleys and Jones team now and hopefully for a long time. The sooner it's turned over to Jones, the better.


Mara is petrified of pissing off the mannings and if it was up to him manning would choose when he wants to be done
RE: RE: Bottom line they clusterfucked the transition  
micky : 8/16/2019 10:02 pm : link
In comment 14533203 Bill L said:
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In comment 14533200 micky said:


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Qb to qb

. Or sure there’s evidence of that. They have a an who can lead them and they have an heir apparent that’s learning.


Bottomline..drafted jones rid eli..or eli's team this season and drafted much more area of need say defense and made it work to draft a better group of qbs next draft. Bottomline, like it or not, they messed this up..the transition. Period
Yep  
crick n NC : 8/16/2019 10:02 pm : link
This place will be more brutal than usual
Oh well, I can choose to endure it or not.
Nygiants16  
dep026 : 8/16/2019 10:03 pm : link
You’re sounding ridiculous. Mara is afraid of pissing off Manning? Come on, you’re better than that.
RE: RE: It's not outlandish  
Bill L : 8/16/2019 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14533224 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 14533206 MookGiants said:


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to think Jones can actually be better than Eli this year.

I'm still not sure what the point of having Eli on the team is. Getting paid a shit ton of money, is finished being a good football player and could create a real messy situation if not handled properly by Mara/Gettleman/Shurmur.

Judging by how Eli has been handled for a couple years now, it's probably going to be a shit show. There is a ton of risk, and very little reward. Everyone, Eli included, would have been far better off if he was cut in the off-season.

It's sad the way Eli's giants career is going to end. Terrific career that is going to have a black eye on it at the end because of the owner. McAdoo was a total clown, but he was right about Eli at this stage. McAdoo handled everything terribly, but he also gave the Giants a get out of jail free card where Mara and co. didn't have to be the bad guy and they could have parted ways that off-season, and they chose not to do that.

The 2019 season to me is mostly about Daniel Jones. I dont need to see Eli play a bunch of games and struggle to even be .500. Get Jones meaningful time and set your sights on bigger things for 2020. Hopefully don't let Barkley take a beating and hope that guys like Lorenzo Carter show great promise.

Way too great of a chance at a complete mess to even consider bringing Eli back this year.

The managements comments comparing the situation to Green Bay with Rodgers/Favre and KC with Smith/Mahomes scares the hell out of me. Eli has done absolutely nothing recently to make anyone believe the GIants can win 10+ games this year. The Packers/Chiefs were both playoff teams in those 2 QB's final seasons, Favre all the way to NFC title game. The Giants the last 2 seasons have been dreadful.

I'm just not sure what they are holding onto with Eli. The Giants couldn't handle the Eli situation worse if they were intentionally trying to have it blow up in their face.

This is Barkleys and Jones team now and hopefully for a long time. The sooner it's turned over to Jones, the better.




Mara is petrified of pissing off the mannings and if it was up to him manning would choose when he wants to be done

Now that’s unmitigated bullshit.
RE: RE: Bottom line they clusterfucked the transition  
micky : 8/16/2019 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14533215 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14533200 micky said:


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Qb to qb



Bringing the absolute LULZ as usual.


You bring the lulz or clusterfuck ..drop dead hahaha
Alonzo Russell  
Thinblueline : 8/16/2019 10:04 pm : link
Is a player.. He consistently gets open, QB's not seeing him... Did you see that speed from a 6'4" receiver!
Tolliver getting picked on again!  
Simms11 : 8/16/2019 10:04 pm : link
.
Adding a...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/16/2019 10:04 pm : link
"period" to a sentence end doesn't really do anything if the entire post before it is pure gibberish.
RE: RE: RE: Bottom line they clusterfucked the transition  
dep026 : 8/16/2019 10:04 pm : link
In comment 14533231 micky said:
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In comment 14533215 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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In comment 14533200 micky said:


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Qb to qb



Bringing the absolute LULZ as usual.



You bring the lulz or clusterfuck ..drop dead hahaha


Classy. Telling someone to die. Holy fuck.
RE: Nygiants16  
Bill L : 8/16/2019 10:04 pm : link
In comment 14533229 dep026 said:
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You’re sounding ridiculous. Mara is afraid of pissing off Manning? Come on, you’re better than that.
now you’re full of crap. This is a tough night.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Bottom line they clusterfucked the transition  
micky : 8/16/2019 10:05 pm : link
In comment 14533236 dep026 said:
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In comment 14533231 micky said:


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In comment 14533215 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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In comment 14533200 micky said:


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Qb to qb



Bringing the absolute LULZ as usual.



You bring the lulz or clusterfuck ..drop dead hahaha



Classy. Telling someone to die. Holy fuck.


Yup..i don't give a fuck lol
micky..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/16/2019 10:05 pm : link
that isn't the first time you've told me to drop dead.

As a person who is actually sick, you should know better. If I said the same to you - that would be a hideous comment.

You just can't fucking help yourself.
Was  
AcidTest : 8/16/2019 10:05 pm : link
Wheeler even in on that last drive?
RE: RE: You'd think after the last 7 years everyone would be more focused  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2019 10:06 pm : link
In comment 14533221 dep026 said:
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on the future, but whatever. Either way, Jones' day is coming soon. I'm just happy about that.



Shit you’ve been waiting 15 years...


Wrong.
You  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/16/2019 10:06 pm : link
are a fucking imbecile
Jones has looked good in his time so far.  
bradshaw44 : 8/16/2019 10:06 pm : link
That being said, it’s preseason. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. You start Eli. If the season gets away from us, like so many have recently, you give the kid his shot.
RE: Nygiants16  
nygiants16 : 8/16/2019 10:06 pm : link
In comment 14533229 dep026 said:
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You’re sounding ridiculous. Mara is afraid of pissing off Manning? Come on, you’re better than that.


You dont think there is a part of mara that still feels bad he had a hand in benching eli?

he just did anninterview where he hopes jones does not see the field and says eli is year to year...there should be no chance eli is back next year
Micky  
crick n NC : 8/16/2019 10:06 pm : link
Wishing death upon posters isn't uncommon
Nate Solder  
Nick in LA : 8/16/2019 10:07 pm : link
Getting some tape for an analyst position after football
RE: RE: RE: You'd think after the last 7 years everyone would be more focused  
dep026 : 8/16/2019 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14533242 Dave in Hoboken said:
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on the future, but whatever. Either way, Jones' day is coming soon. I'm just happy about that.



Shit you’ve been waiting 15 years...



Wrong.


Right.
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