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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/16/2019 7:23 pm
Not expected to play tonight #CHIvsNYG:

RB Barkley (coaches decision)
RB Gallman (ankle)
CB Beal (hamstring)
CB Baker (knee)
LB Ogletree (calf)
OT Mihalik (burner)
OT Asafo-Adjei (concussion)
WR Slayton (hamstring)
WR S. Shepard (thumb)
TE Engram (coaches decision)
LS Zak DeOssie (toe)
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You  
AcidTest : 8/16/2019 10:07 pm : link
could be at the bottom of the depth chart for your position, but would nonetheless have a great chance to make the team if you showed anything good as a PR.
I for one am happy Eli played well  
justafan : 8/16/2019 10:07 pm : link
and even though Jones had some ball security issues I still think he played well as a rookie. Not sure what the debate is here. Start Eli until he is not performing.
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Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2019 10:08 pm : link
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on the future, but whatever. Either way, Jones' day is coming soon. I'm just happy about that.



Shit you’ve been waiting 15 years...



Wrong.



Right.


If that was true, I'd be one of the people wanting Jones to start Week 1 this year, which I don't. So...nope.
RE: Jones has looked good in his time so far.  
Bill L : 8/16/2019 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14533244 bradshaw44 said:
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That being said, it’s preseason. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. You start Eli. If the season gets away from us, like so many have recently, you give the kid his shot.
Agree. But people want to tank before September. It’s crazy and more than a bit unethical.
RE: Nate Solder  
AcidTest : 8/16/2019 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14533247 Nick in LA said:
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Getting some tape for an analyst position after football


HAHA. Yes.
RE: micky..  
micky : 8/16/2019 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14533239 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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that isn't the first time you've told me to drop dead.

As a person who is actually sick, you should know better. If I said the same to you - that would be a hideous comment.

You just can't fucking help yourself.


Actually i wouldn't give a fuck. You can. But to you it would lol
Can't we all just get along?  
adamg : 8/16/2019 10:08 pm : link
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and again eli should start  
nygiants16 : 8/16/2019 10:08 pm : link
but this season should be about getting jones ready to hit the ground running next year, i love eli but he is no.longer the future qb
RE: what i dont want  
Nine-Tails : 8/16/2019 10:09 pm : link
In comment 14533210 nygiants16 said:
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is for the giants to be around 500 and barely in the playoff picture and the giants stick with eli because there is a slight chance they can make the playoffs


That would suck, and I think it’s quite possible. Many would probably like a playoff team and the reins handed to Jones next year, ala Smith to Mahomes. But in that situation it could be dicey, DG and Shurmur probably would want to go to Jones, Mara would want Eli back for another year and Manning would want multiple years.
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crick n NC : 8/16/2019 10:09 pm : link
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on the future, but whatever. Either way, Jones' day is coming soon. I'm just happy about that.



Shit you’ve been waiting 15 years...



Wrong.



Right.



If that was true, I'd be one of the people wanting Jones to start Week 1 this year, which I don't. So...nope.


Why not start Jones week 1? He looks ready, right?
Giants defense has some dude out there  
Motley Two : 8/16/2019 10:09 pm : link
with some beautiful hair. Lol
RE: I for one am happy Eli played well  
wonderback : 8/16/2019 10:10 pm : link
In comment 14533251 justafan said:
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and even though Jones had some ball security issues I still think he played well as a rookie. Not sure what the debate is here. Start Eli until he is not performing.


You’re not alone. What you said. I don’t get it either.
RE: RE: Nygiants16  
dep026 : 8/16/2019 10:10 pm : link
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You’re sounding ridiculous. Mara is afraid of pissing off Manning? Come on, you’re better than that.



You dont think there is a part of mara that still feels bad he had a hand in benching eli?

he just did anninterview where he hopes jones does not see the field and says eli is year to year...there should be no chance eli is back next year


Again, people need to see what’s actually said.

1. If the giants have this unexpected season and win the division and make noise in the playoffs with Eli, isn’t that a good thing? Don’t you think that’s what Mara was implying?
2. And let’s take it a step further. In the unlikely scenario we winnthe SB this year and Eli has a great year - you’re just tossing him away?

And what could the Mannings possibly do to Mara in retaliation of starting Jones? Mara is a million times more powerful than eli or Archie when it comes to the NFL?
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Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2019 10:10 pm : link
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on the future, but whatever. Either way, Jones' day is coming soon. I'm just happy about that.



Shit you’ve been waiting 15 years...



Wrong.



Right.



If that was true, I'd be one of the people wanting Jones to start Week 1 this year, which I don't. So...nope.


Why not start Jones week 1? He looks ready, right?


If the team is bad or just not in contention, I'd play Jones in the middle/towards the end of the season.
I think Jones still needs seasoning.....  
Simms11 : 8/16/2019 10:10 pm : link
once the bullets start really flying, Defenses will get much tougher to decipher. He needs time to develop and we can still win with Eli early on.
This  
AcidTest : 8/16/2019 10:10 pm : link
isn't complicated. Eli is the starter until the Giants are mathematically eliminated. Sometime after that, Jones plays so he can get some regular game experience before next season.
It’s retry obvious, and professional that  
Bill L : 8/16/2019 10:10 pm : link
They will play for the present, until the present dictates that they play for the future.
RE: and again eli should start  
dep026 : 8/16/2019 10:11 pm : link
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but this season should be about getting jones ready to hit the ground running next year, i love eli but he is no.longer the future qb


And he can easily do that playing 6-8 games, right?
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nygiants16 : 8/16/2019 10:13 pm : link
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but this season should be about getting jones ready to hit the ground running next year, i love eli but he is no.longer the future qb



And he can easily do that playing 6-8 games, right?


as long as he plays 6 to 8 games, i would prefer 10 but i would take 6 to 8 games but my worry is he gets the last coiple of games and that is it...
Much much better job by Dixon there......  
Simms11 : 8/16/2019 10:13 pm : link
If he can just maintain that consistency.
Russell making a case for himself  
j_rud : 8/16/2019 10:13 pm : link
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RE: This  
nygiants16 : 8/16/2019 10:13 pm : link
In comment 14533265 AcidTest said:
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isn't complicated. Eli is the starter until the Giants are mathematically eliminated. Sometime after that, Jones plays so he can get some regular game experience before next season.


no it shouldnt be mathematically eliminated
RE: This  
Nine-Tails : 8/16/2019 10:13 pm : link
In comment 14533265 AcidTest said:
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isn't complicated. Eli is the starter until the Giants are mathematically eliminated. Sometime after that, Jones plays so he can get some regular game experience before next season.


My leash would be shorter. Say the Giants fall to say 3-6 and lost two in a row in poor fashion, and Jones is showing well in practice. Right there would be the time to make the switch. Possibility he sparks the team and saves the season.
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crick n NC : 8/16/2019 10:14 pm : link
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but this season should be about getting jones ready to hit the ground running next year, i love eli but he is no.longer the future qb



And he can easily do that playing 6-8 games, right?



as long as he plays 6 to 8 games, i would prefer 10 but i would take 6 to 8 games but my worry is he gets the last coiple of games and that is it...


Why are you worrying about something you don't control nor have any real idea what will happen?
Russell  
AcidTest : 8/16/2019 10:14 pm : link
doing his best J. Williams impression.
Mahomes had 1 game  
dep026 : 8/16/2019 10:14 pm : link
To get ready for a MVP year.

Jones will be fine and we should be excited that either.

Eli has a big year and we make the playoffs

Or

Jones gets ready for 2020.
RE: Russell  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/16/2019 10:15 pm : link
In comment 14533276 AcidTest said:
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doing his best J. Williams impression.


Same thought entered my mind.
RE: RE: RE: I can tell BBI  
BigBlueShock : 8/16/2019 10:15 pm : link
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Is going to be unbearable once Eli plays at least the first 6-8 weeks. Now Daniel Jones is already better?

JFC


Wtf? Would you be happier if Jones has looked like shit? This is ridiculous. We should ALL be happy with what we’ve seen from Jones. It doesn’t make him better than Eli but what’s wrong with being excited about what we are seeing?

Do you honestly think that getting Jones in sooner rather than later is not better for the long term? Instead of being excited about Jones, you’re more worried about the reactions you’ll see regarding Eli if he doesn’t play well. And that’s pathetic.

youre not hurting Jones by sitting him and you play each year to maximized your record. Not sure what’s wrong with that. It’s what normal professionals do.

Oh I absolutely agree. My point to dep is, he’s etting it up to be absolutely unbearable when the time comes to get Jones on the field. We all know he’s gonna go through the typical rookie struggles. But dep will remind us all on every incomplpass or turnover that many thought Jones was better than Eli. He is not going to be an objective viewer in this. He’s too invested.

Any sane person on the planet won’t expect Jones to perform like a 15 year vet right out of the shoots. But dep will focus on the 1% that actually thinks Jones is better right now. You watch. It’s going to happen.
Jones will be fine  
crick n NC : 8/16/2019 10:15 pm : link
Nice transition from Eli will be fine
BBS  
dep026 : 8/16/2019 10:17 pm : link
I think you’re misreading my posts cause that’s not what I mean.

The unbearable part is going to be posters clamoring everyday once the season starts for him to start when in reality Eli will be given at least 6 starts to show what he can do.
People are going to be literally crying either later this season  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2019 10:18 pm : link
or Week 1 2020..
I've been  
crick n NC : 8/16/2019 10:18 pm : link
Crying a lot the last several years
BBS  
dep026 : 8/16/2019 10:19 pm : link
So I guess all my posts cheering and complimenting Jones was ignored on your part. Fucking BBI sucks anymore.
RE: I've been  
adamg : 8/16/2019 10:19 pm : link
In comment 14533285 crick n NC said:
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Crying a lot the last several years


Which is why Eli should have a short leash.
Beautiful hair dude  
Motley Two : 8/16/2019 10:20 pm : link
With the fumble recovery
What ownership/management says  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 8/16/2019 10:20 pm : link
and what they do are often two very different things.

Jones will start 2020. Possibly sooner. Probably not until the season is lost.

At this point they are saying all the right things to smooth the transition, but it's very telling that they didn't extend Eli. There is no way they are going to extend him next offseason and continue to sit a #6 pick. It's downright foolish to expect otherwise.

It should be obvious that the PR plan at this point is to placate a fan base that acted like morons the last time Eli was benched.
Hillman doing some work  
Motley Two : 8/16/2019 10:21 pm : link
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crick n NC : 8/16/2019 10:21 pm : link
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Crying a lot the last several years



Which is why Eli should have a short leash.


Eli's time here is almost up. It more than likely won't bother me when they switch.

I would prefer Manning to have a good season
RE: What ownership/management says  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2019 10:21 pm : link
In comment 14533290 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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and what they do are often two very different things.

Jones will start 2020. Possibly sooner. Probably not until the season is lost.

At this point they are saying all the right things to smooth the transition, but it's very telling that they didn't extend Eli. There is no way they are going to extend him next offseason and continue to sit a #6 pick. It's downright foolish to expect otherwise.

It should be obvious that the PR plan at this point is to placate a fan base that acted like morons the last time Eli was benched.


+1.
Bunche not a good showing tonight  
Simms11 : 8/16/2019 10:22 pm : link
many penalties
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adamg : 8/16/2019 10:22 pm : link
In comment 14533292 crick n NC said:
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Crying a lot the last several years



Which is why Eli should have a short leash.



Eli's time here is almost up. It more than likely won't bother me when they switch.

I would prefer Manning to have a good season


I want him to win another superbowl. But he hasn't been good lately. And expecting a superbowl is fucking crazy at this point.
Credit where due  
mfsd : 8/16/2019 10:22 pm : link
Lauletta not giving up a roster spot without a fight
Noodle arm???  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/16/2019 10:22 pm : link
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Nice  
AcidTest : 8/16/2019 10:22 pm : link
throw by Lauletta.
Lauletta geeked  
Motley Two : 8/16/2019 10:23 pm : link
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RE: What ownership/management says  
Bill L : 8/16/2019 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14533290 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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and what they do are often two very different things.

Jones will start 2020. Possibly sooner. Probably not until the season is lost.

At this point they are saying all the right things to smooth the transition, but it's very telling that they didn't extend Eli. There is no way they are going to extend him next offseason and continue to sit a #6 pick. It's downright foolish to expect otherwise.

It should be obvious that the PR plan at this point is to placate a fan base that acted like morons the last time Eli was benched.

That may be true, it it’s a misplaced fear. The circumstances between Jones and Smith couldn’t be more different.
RE: Noodle arm???  
Simms11 : 8/16/2019 10:24 pm : link
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Looks a little stronger this year
Why should the giants care  
crick n NC : 8/16/2019 10:24 pm : link
What the fans have to say about player personnel. The fans will show up. You certainly don't build or maintain a team because of what fans say. What a horrible way to maintain a team
Would like to see Lauletta make the team  
Sean : 8/16/2019 10:24 pm : link
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nygiants16 : 8/16/2019 10:24 pm : link
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but this season should be about getting jones ready to hit the ground running next year, i love eli but he is no.longer the future qb



And he can easily do that playing 6-8 games, right?



as long as he plays 6 to 8 games, i would prefer 10 but i would take 6 to 8 games but my worry is he gets the last coiple of games and that is it...



Why are you worrying about something you don't control nor have any real idea what will happen?


i really donnt trust mara to make that decision
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