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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/16/2019 7:23 pm
Not expected to play tonight #CHIvsNYG:

RB Barkley (coaches decision)
RB Gallman (ankle)
CB Beal (hamstring)
CB Baker (knee)
LB Ogletree (calf)
OT Mihalik (burner)
OT Asafo-Adjei (concussion)
WR Slayton (hamstring)
WR S. Shepard (thumb)
TE Engram (coaches decision)
LS Zak DeOssie (toe)
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RE: Credit where due  
Bill L : 8/16/2019 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14533297 mfsd said:
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Lauletta not giving up a roster spot without a fight

I’d offer Tanney or Lauletta to the Eagles and see if they bite.
juggernaut...  
section125 : 8/16/2019 10:24 pm : link
it's happening!
RE: Why should the giants care  
nygiants16 : 8/16/2019 10:25 pm : link
In comment 14533305 crick n NC said:
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What the fans have to say about player personnel. The fans will show up. You certainly don't build or maintain a team because of what fans say. What a horrible way to maintain a team


because mara already did this? he freaked out when the backlash started
Nice job  
Motley Two : 8/16/2019 10:25 pm : link
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RE: RE: Noodle arm???  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/16/2019 10:25 pm : link
In comment 14533304 Simms11 said:
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Looks a little stronger this year

I read an article where Tanney and Lauletta are trade bait XD
check  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/16/2019 10:25 pm : link
out this block by Mike Remmers
https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1162510517027713024 - ( New Window )
I wonder what the aggregate QBR for the preseason is?  
Bill L : 8/16/2019 10:26 pm : link
They’ve all been excellent so far.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I've been  
crick n NC : 8/16/2019 10:26 pm : link
In comment 14533296 adamg said:
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Crying a lot the last several years



Which is why Eli should have a short leash.



Eli's time here is almost up. It more than likely won't bother me when they switch.

I would prefer Manning to have a good season



I want him to win another superbowl. But he hasn't been good lately. And expecting a superbowl is fucking crazy at this point.


My expectations are quite loose for the giants. I've been burned too many times because I thought I knew better.
RE: RE: Why should the giants care  
dep026 : 8/16/2019 10:26 pm : link
In comment 14533310 nygiants16 said:
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What the fans have to say about player personnel. The fans will show up. You certainly don't build or maintain a team because of what fans say. What a horrible way to maintain a team



because mara already did this? he freaked out when the backlash started


Or righted a wrong when he was lied to by 3 people who are no longer in the NFL.
for  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/16/2019 10:26 pm : link
as much love as we gave C.J. Conrad, Garrett Dickerson has looked pretty good.
Like the young players on this roster......  
Simms11 : 8/16/2019 10:26 pm : link
Nice athleticism. We have a nice foundation on this team.
RE: Nice  
Percy : 8/16/2019 10:26 pm : link
In comment 14533299 AcidTest said:
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throw by Lauletta.

It was. A rocket. Like to see more of him in passing situations.End of game emphasis seems to be on runners and run blocking, though.
RE: RE: Why should the giants care  
crick n NC : 8/16/2019 10:27 pm : link
In comment 14533310 nygiants16 said:
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What the fans have to say about player personnel. The fans will show up. You certainly don't build or maintain a team because of what fans say. What a horrible way to maintain a team



because mara already did this? he freaked out when the backlash started


I don't know that he necessarily freaked out. That is a perception.

Even if he did, can't one change their mind or ways?
RE: BBS  
BigBlueShock : 8/16/2019 10:27 pm : link
In comment 14533282 dep026 said:
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I think you’re misreading my posts cause that’s not what I mean.

The unbearable part is going to be posters clamoring everyday once the season starts for him to start when in reality Eli will be given at least 6 starts to show what he can do.

Yeah I’m fine with that if you are saying that when Jones does get his chance and struggles you aren’t constantly bringing up those that thought he’d be better than Eli. I’m with you on the fact Jones likely isn’t ready and Eli should get the starts as long as they are competitive and in contention. I’m just thinking you won’t give Jones a fair shake if he struggles when he does take over. I can see an endless stream of “I told you so” going on.

Don’t let the nitwits turn you against Jones, even if subconsciously. We should all hope he comes in and kicks ass.
RE: Would like to see Lauletta make the team  
Nine-Tails : 8/16/2019 10:27 pm : link
In comment 14533306 Sean said:
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Agree
RE: check  
Motley Two : 8/16/2019 10:28 pm : link
In comment 14533314 Eric from BBI said:
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out this block by Mike Remmers https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1162510517027713024 - ( New Window )


I can't tell if that was the same play, I think it was, but Hernandez ended up blocking two dudes at the same time
RE: check  
Canton : 8/16/2019 10:28 pm : link
In comment 14533314 Eric from BBI said:
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out this block by Mike Remmers https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1162510517027713024 - ( New Window )


If his back holds up we may have a very fine line this year. That pancake was sick!
RE: RE: BBS  
dep026 : 8/16/2019 10:29 pm : link
In comment 14533324 BigBlueShock said:
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I think you’re misreading my posts cause that’s not what I mean.

The unbearable part is going to be posters clamoring everyday once the season starts for him to start when in reality Eli will be given at least 6 starts to show what he can do.


Yeah I’m fine with that if you are saying that when Jones does get his chance and struggles you aren’t constantly bringing up those that thought he’d be better than Eli. I’m with you on the fact Jones likely isn’t ready and Eli should get the starts as long as they are competitive and in contention. I’m just thinking you won’t give Jones a fair shake if he struggles when he does take over. I can see an endless stream of “I told you so” going on.

Don’t let the nitwits turn you against Jones, even if subconsciously. We should all hope he comes in and kicks ass.


I can make a nice friendly wager with you. I’ll cheer on Jones like I do for Eli when he gets his chance. I’ve become a big fan of Jones.

In fact - I texted Mook earlier tonight saying we are going to be just fine with Jones whenever he gets his chance.
More Lauletta!  
Percy : 8/16/2019 10:30 pm : link
Now that they got the ball back
79  
Mike in NY : 8/16/2019 10:31 pm : link
Just moved his guy out of the way
This kid (Hilliman)  
Bill L : 8/16/2019 10:32 pm : link
Doesn’t look half bad
Not too pile on but it's nice not to see  
Bluesbreaker : 8/16/2019 10:32 pm : link
The camera not constantly on OBJ
these guys are having fun and look to be together
as a team .
Wheeler  
AcidTest : 8/16/2019 10:32 pm : link
was beaten badly on that long third and eight run by Hillman.
RE: This kid (Hilliman)  
Simms11 : 8/16/2019 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14533335 Bill L said:
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Doesn’t look half bad


I think he’s defined for the PS, unless one of the backs in front of him get hurt?!
...  
christian : 8/16/2019 10:33 pm : link
I still struggle to understand how management saw the 5-11 team from last year, the number of rookies and 2nd year players in key roles this year, and the number of new players in the system, and thinks this is a team that can compete for a championship.

Because why would you pay and play Manning in front of Jones unless they really think this team has a legitimate shot at championship?
RE: This kid (Hilliman)  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/16/2019 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14533335 Bill L said:
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Doesn’t look half bad

226 lbs, but looks very shifty for a guy his size. Kind of like 230 lb SB.
RE: RE: This kid (Hilliman)  
Bill L : 8/16/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14533338 Simms11 said:
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Doesn’t look half bad



I think he’s defined for the PS, unless one of the backs in front of him get hurt?!

Oh yeah. I’m not expecting more than that.
RE: for  
AcidTest : 8/16/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14533320 Eric from BBI said:
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as much love as we gave C.J. Conrad, Garrett Dickerson has looked pretty good.


Agreed.
RE: RE: This kid (Hilliman)  
Simms11 : 8/16/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14533338 Simms11 said:
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Doesn’t look half bad



I think he’s defined for the PS, unless one of the backs in front of him get hurt?!


destined, not defined....ugh
RE: Not too pile on but it's nice not to see  
Motley Two : 8/16/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14533336 Bluesbreaker said:
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The camera not constantly on OBJ
these guys are having fun and look to be together
as a team .


Just wait until the NFL unveils their new picture in picture feature in the regular season.
these  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/16/2019 10:34 pm : link
shotgun formations inside the 5-yard line drive me nuts.
It's good to see Hillman  
Captplanet : 8/16/2019 10:34 pm : link
thanking his line just now. The camaraderie on this team is impressive
RE: ...  
Bill L : 8/16/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14533339 christian said:
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I still struggle to understand how management saw the 5-11 team from last year, the number of rookies and 2nd year players in key roles this year, and the number of new players in the system, and thinks this is a team that can compete for a championship.

Because why would you pay and play Manning in front of Jones unless they really think this team has a legitimate shot at championship?

I know it’s only preseason but even so, I believe this team will be better than you think.
RE: Wheeler  
RobCarpenter : 8/16/2019 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14533337 AcidTest said:
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was beaten badly on that long third and eight run by Hillman.


“Get your playbook, coach wants to see you”
RE: RE: This kid (Hilliman)  
section125 : 8/16/2019 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14533340 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Doesn’t look half bad


226 lbs, but looks very shifty for a guy his size. Kind of like 230 lb SB.


I'd like to see him vs better competition. He looks pretty doggone good. Has some speed too.
RE: ...  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2019 10:36 pm : link
In comment 14533339 christian said:
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I still struggle to understand how management saw the 5-11 team from last year, the number of rookies and 2nd year players in key roles this year, and the number of new players in the system, and thinks this is a team that can compete for a championship.

Because why would you pay and play Manning in front of Jones unless they really think this team has a legitimate shot at championship?


It's just a final thank you to Eli before they move on for good.
RE: ...  
crick n NC : 8/16/2019 10:36 pm : link
In comment 14533339 christian said:
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I still struggle to understand how management saw the 5-11 team from last year, the number of rookies and 2nd year players in key roles this year, and the number of new players in the system, and thinks this is a team that can compete for a championship.

Because why would you pay and play Manning in front of Jones unless they really think this team has a legitimate shot at championship?


Perhaps they believe winning makes a difference in the attitude of your team.

If manning gives them the better chance to turn his team into a winning team then it's an easy decision.

A team can have a successful season without a championship. Some believe winning consistently is good for the mindset of your team
RE: RE: ...  
crick n NC : 8/16/2019 10:37 pm : link
In comment 14533350 Dave in Hoboken said:
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I still struggle to understand how management saw the 5-11 team from last year, the number of rookies and 2nd year players in key roles this year, and the number of new players in the system, and thinks this is a team that can compete for a championship.

Because why would you pay and play Manning in front of Jones unless they really think this team has a legitimate shot at championship?



It's just a final thank you to Eli before they move on for good.


You honestly think the giants are wasting a season just to send a player off?
RE: RE: ...  
christian : 8/16/2019 10:38 pm : link
In comment 14533347 Bill L said:
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I still struggle to understand how management saw the 5-11 team from last year, the number of rookies and 2nd year players in key roles this year, and the number of new players in the system, and thinks this is a team that can compete for a championship.

Because why would you pay and play Manning in front of Jones unless they really think this team has a legitimate shot at championship?


I know it’s only preseason but even so, I believe this team will be better than you think.


Do you believe this team is good enough to seriously compete for a championship?
did  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/16/2019 10:38 pm : link
Jake Carlock even play?
RE: RE: ...  
Bill L : 8/16/2019 10:38 pm : link
In comment 14533351 crick n NC said:
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I still struggle to understand how management saw the 5-11 team from last year, the number of rookies and 2nd year players in key roles this year, and the number of new players in the system, and thinks this is a team that can compete for a championship.

Because why would you pay and play Manning in front of Jones unless they really think this team has a legitimate shot at championship?



Perhaps they believe winning makes a difference in the attitude of your team.

If manning gives them the better chance to turn his team into a winning team then it's an easy decision.

A team can have a successful season without a championship. Some believe winning consistently is good for the mindset of your team
it seems like we have an inordinate number of fans here whose objective is to lose.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2019 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14533355 crick n NC said:
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I still struggle to understand how management saw the 5-11 team from last year, the number of rookies and 2nd year players in key roles this year, and the number of new players in the system, and thinks this is a team that can compete for a championship.

Because why would you pay and play Manning in front of Jones unless they really think this team has a legitimate shot at championship?



It's just a final thank you to Eli before they move on for good.



You honestly think the giants are wasting a season just to send a player off?


Eli has one year left on his contract. I think they're giving this to him and letting him play this final year (or at least until the middle/latter part of the season). Did you see how they reacted when Eli got benched?
They are building  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 8/16/2019 10:39 pm : link
A team.
And an inordinate..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/16/2019 10:40 pm : link
amount who think the fans are dictating the decisions that the team is making.

I think there's a shortage of tin foil in the Tri-State area
IDK about that Dave  
adamg : 8/16/2019 10:40 pm : link
Eli may be on the back 9, but he's still a pro. We may not win, but Eli is a legit player.
RE: RE: RE: RE: ...  
crick n NC : 8/16/2019 10:40 pm : link
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I still struggle to understand how management saw the 5-11 team from last year, the number of rookies and 2nd year players in key roles this year, and the number of new players in the system, and thinks this is a team that can compete for a championship.

Because why would you pay and play Manning in front of Jones unless they really think this team has a legitimate shot at championship?



It's just a final thank you to Eli before they move on for good.



You honestly think the giants are wasting a season just to send a player off?



Eli has one year left on his contract. I think they're giving this to him and letting him play this final year (or at least until the middle/latter part of the season). Did you see how they reacted when Eli got benched?


Yes I was paying attention. Even with that data I was never lead to believe they would simply waste a season
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: ...  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2019 10:42 pm : link
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I still struggle to understand how management saw the 5-11 team from last year, the number of rookies and 2nd year players in key roles this year, and the number of new players in the system, and thinks this is a team that can compete for a championship.

Because why would you pay and play Manning in front of Jones unless they really think this team has a legitimate shot at championship?



It's just a final thank you to Eli before they move on for good.



You honestly think the giants are wasting a season just to send a player off?



Eli has one year left on his contract. I think they're giving this to him and letting him play this final year (or at least until the middle/latter part of the season). Did you see how they reacted when Eli got benched?



Yes I was paying attention. Even with that data I was never lead to believe they would simply waste a season


It's not a gift. He's under contract anyway.
When dafuq  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/16/2019 10:42 pm : link
Was the last time we didn't look like utter total crap during the preseason?
RE: IDK about that Dave  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2019 10:43 pm : link
In comment 14533364 adamg said:
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Eli may be on the back 9, but he's still a pro. We may not win, but Eli is a legit player.


Huh?
RE: They are building  
j_rud : 8/16/2019 10:43 pm : link
In comment 14533361 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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A team.


Came away with the same feeling. And it feels pretty good.
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