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How was the OL?

adamg : 8/16/2019 10:44 pm
I missed the first half (the only half really), but I'm wondering if the OL looked legit.
1st string OL was very good  
Steve in ATL : 8/16/2019 10:44 pm : link
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Looked  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/16/2019 10:45 pm : link
great, but they were playing against the 2nd team defense.
I'm no X and O's  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2019 10:46 pm : link
guy but other than the whiff on the "strip sack" (wheeler and Brown both?) I thought the OL shined.

Gates looked really good.
Great  
Barkley26 : 8/16/2019 10:49 pm : link
Our starting OL looks great so far. Saquon might run for 3,000 yards this year (yes I'm bias).
RE: Looked  
adamg : 8/16/2019 10:51 pm : link
In comment 14533375 Eric from BBI said:
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great, but they were playing against the 2nd team defense.


Looking great is looking great. I'll take that.
RE: I'm no X and O's  
Eman11 : 8/16/2019 11:19 pm : link
In comment 14533380 pjcas18 said:
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guy but other than the whiff on the "strip sack" (wheeler and Brown both?) I thought the OL shined.

Gates looked really good.


I don't think that was Wheeler at RT on the strip sack.
Was Gates  
Jay in Toronto : 8/16/2019 11:23 pm : link
At OT or G?
Gates was at LT  
BocaGene : 8/16/2019 11:27 pm : link
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RE: RE: I'm no X and O's  
robbieballs2003 : 8/16/2019 11:36 pm : link
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guy but other than the whiff on the "strip sack" (wheeler and Brown both?) I thought the OL shined.

Gates looked really good.



I don't think that was Wheeler at RT on the strip sack.


It was Slade
RE: RE: RE: I'm no X and O's  
5BowlsSoon : 8/16/2019 11:56 pm : link
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guy but other than the whiff on the "strip sack" (wheeler and Brown both?) I thought the OL shined.

Gates looked really good.



I don't think that was Wheeler at RT on the strip sack.



It was Slade


Yes it was Slate. Seemed like we had a TE blocking too on that play. Or maybe he just was there to slow him up.
The 1st string OL  
mittenedman : 8/17/2019 12:00 am : link
is coming together nicely. Big physical group.
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christian : 8/17/2019 12:05 am : link
The talent difference between Remmers and Wheeler is hard to put in words. I really, really hope Remmers' health holds up.
RE: ...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/17/2019 12:09 am : link
In comment 14533461 christian said:
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The talent difference between Remmers and Wheeler is hard to put in words. I really, really hope Remmers' health holds up.


This may help....
https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1162510517027713024 - ( New Window )
Paul Adams had a few nice blocks to spring Hilliman free  
Anakim : 8/17/2019 12:14 am : link
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The O-lIne played very well...  
M.S. : 8/17/2019 6:20 am : link

...the first string went up against Bears' non-starters and dominated. Our second string line also played well, putting aside one snafu in which our RT needlessly over-committed to the outside where our TE blocked the DE, who then boomeranged inside for a hot route strip of Daniel Jones.
RE: RE: Looked  
Big Blue '56 : 8/17/2019 6:38 am : link
In comment 14533394 adamg said:
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great, but they were playing against the 2nd team defense.



Looking great is looking great. I'll take that.


Bingo. How many friggin’ times has the OL sucked in preseason against all “stringers?”
2nd Stringers for Chicago  
Lines of Scrimmage : 8/17/2019 6:42 am : link
but the Giants OL dominated them which is good. They are coming along nicely. Remmers is a big upgrade at RT.

I think the biggest upgrade is the interior. Almost 700 pounds of beef at Center and two guards. If the Giants faith in Pio proves correct, it will greatly eliminate interior pressure which will allow Eli to step up from outside pressure imo and have plays further develop.

They only dress 7 on game-day and it looks likes Gates is being prepped to serve as a utility reserve and is showing to be a gamer.
RE: Looked  
Beer Man : 8/17/2019 6:50 am : link
In comment 14533375 Eric from BBI said:
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great, but they were playing against the 2nd team defense.
+1.
RE: RE: I'm no X and O's  
Beer Man : 8/17/2019 6:52 am : link
In comment 14533433 Eman11 said:
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guy but other than the whiff on the "strip sack" (wheeler and Brown both?) I thought the OL shined.

Gates looked really good.



I don't think that was Wheeler at RT on the strip sack.
Plus, the RT wasn't totally at fault. The RG was out of place to pickup the rusher when he slide to the inside.
RE: ...  
RobCarpenter : 8/17/2019 6:57 am : link
In comment 14533461 christian said:
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The talent difference between Remmers and Wheeler is hard to put in words. I really, really hope Remmers' health holds up.


Wheeler is 3rd string and based on his play last night won’t be on the roster.
RE: RE: Looked  
RobCarpenter : 8/17/2019 7:03 am : link
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great, but they were playing against the 2nd team defense.

+1.


In previous years the line never looked good in the preseason, regardless of who they were playing.
Will Hernadez is becoming  
ATL_Giants : 8/17/2019 7:27 am : link
one of my favorite players.
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Eman11 : 8/17/2019 7:33 am : link
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guy but other than the whiff on the "strip sack" (wheeler and Brown both?) I thought the OL shined.

Gates looked really good.



I don't think that was Wheeler at RT on the strip sack.

Plus, the RT wasn't totally at fault. The RG was out of place to pickup the rusher when he slide to the inside.


Nah I don't agree with that. It looked to me like he was completely at fault. He had outside help from the TE who chipped the rusher, and he had no business moving outside. He should've stayed to the inside all along, but by moving outside where he had help, he opened up the inside for the rusher to make a nice move and get to Jones.

I don't think the RG had any fault at all on the play, and if he was expected to that would've made three guys responsible for blocking one? Doesn't make sense to me.
I would say the RT was 99% at fault...  
M.S. : 8/17/2019 8:21 am : link

...he had NO business vacating his area completely while the DE was engaged with the TE. He has got to be ready for the possibility that the DE may spin back to the inside, which is exactly what happened. I think what our OT should have done is extend his right arm out to feel for the DE but honor the inside.
Block from the inside out.  
SCGiantsFan : 8/17/2019 8:37 am : link
He had outside help from the TE. He whiffed and over committed opening up the inside lane.

Good learning point for all involved.

DJ8 and has double pat of the ball, might have played a roll in him losing control of the ball. This has been touched upon in the past if it might be an issue for him. If given a clean pocket, it is not an issue.
RE: Great  
PatersonPlank : 8/17/2019 8:46 am : link
In comment 14533389 Barkley26 said:
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Our starting OL looks great so far. Saquon might run for 3,000 yards this year (yes I'm bias).


I'm on record that he gets 3K total yards this season, and I'm sticking to it. Even 2.5k would be a new record.
RE: ...  
PatersonPlank : 8/17/2019 8:47 am : link
In comment 14533461 christian said:
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The talent difference between Remmers and Wheeler is hard to put in words. I really, really hope Remmers' health holds up.


The talent difference between [any other tackle] and Wheeler is hard to put in words. I really, really hope [any other tackle]'s health holds up.
Wheeler  
5BowlsSoon : 8/17/2019 8:52 am : link
It sounds to me like everyone is still down on Wheeler even though some were admiring his weight game and apparent newfounded strength from the offseason. Are we giving up on him now? Is Slade actually better than him? I find that hard to believe.
I’m sorry to be a broken record here  
RobCarpenter : 8/17/2019 9:01 am : link
But Wheeler is not making the team unless he dramatically improves in the next two preseason games.
RE: Paul Adams had a few nice blocks to spring Hilliman free  
Bill in UT : 8/17/2019 9:21 am : link
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yeah, I was gonna say he looked ok in short stink. Looks like a big guy. Also very chummy with DJ on sideline. Otoh, Looks like Conrad's stock may be dropping. He's 5th on depth chart and seems to be dropping a few balls lately. I know the coaches had been real high on him, but now not so sure he sticks.
Slate & Gates are better than Wheeler  
Rudy5757 : 8/17/2019 9:37 am : link
But that doesn't mean you give up on Wheeler. Maybe we can get a 7th for him. He has staring experience and he is cheap. It's a good problem to have and it shows how far we have come as an OL.

As for the OL overall they have not really been tested. They can only block the players on the field and they have done well but the 3rd game is when we should see some starters and get a better sense of how much we have improved.
Both the first and second strings played well.  
since1925 : 8/17/2019 10:04 am : link
They seem more cohesive then they have in along time.
Looked good  
bc4life : 8/17/2019 10:16 am : link
and even looks like we have a few quality players for depth. Real test will be against another team's 1s, especially in the run game. But, OL is light years ahead of where they were just a year or two ago
RE: Slate & Gates are better than Wheeler  
RobCarpenter : 8/17/2019 10:24 am : link
In comment 14533653 Rudy5757 said:
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But that doesn't mean you give up on Wheeler. Maybe we can get a 7th for him. He has staring experience and he is cheap. It's a good problem to have and it shows how far we have come as an OL.

As for the OL overall they have not really been tested. They can only block the players on the field and they have done well but the 3rd game is when we should see some starters and get a better sense of how much we have improved.


No one is going to trade for a player who is a backup to the backup.
Have Another Two Weeks  
Percy : 8/17/2019 3:25 pm : link
To figure it out about Wheeler.
If they had to decide today, my guess is that the o-line backups are  
Ira : 8/17/2019 6:08 pm : link
Pulley, Gates, Slade and Brown.
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