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Jints in Carolina : 8/17/2019 11:17 am


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The Yanks are savages in the box  
BH28 : 8/17/2019 3:17 pm : link
These umps have sand in their box. Thin skinned assholes. Tighten that shit up!
Hey hey  
Bill2 : 8/17/2019 3:19 pm : link
Im going to tell all of you that our starting pitching is a concern relative to the rest of the strengths of the team.

I will also find any slight worries, negatives, perjoratives, assertions of downsides that I can find and post them during losses.

I will refrain from celebrating, acknowledging, praising, pointing out positives or posting during wins

In return for this original, insightful, near Patent Office level flood of brilliant scintillating information that none of you has ever seen elsewhere - I want acknowledgments of my brilliance, never to be modified, challenged or noticed as a worry wort pessimist at best and an annoyance at worst.

You can begin the string of praising posts for my contributions to these threads, your fandom, your knowledge, the New York Yankees and your lives.

Please do this quickly for I have to leave soon. Mr Cashman himself has sent a limo so I can address the Analytical Team of the New York Yankees at a dinner as soon as the Tampa contingent gets here on their private jet.



Strange defensive decision  
Mad Mike : 8/17/2019 3:20 pm : link
in a close game.
Thanks for your info Bill!  
adamg : 8/17/2019 3:22 pm : link
I didn't realize that starting pitching might be a problem. I look forward to your enlightening posts of negativity!
Nice play by Kahnle  
adamg : 8/17/2019 3:24 pm : link
DP baby
I love how much O’Neill despises umpires.  
bceagle05 : 8/17/2019 3:25 pm : link
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I like to watch Kahnle  
adamg : 8/17/2019 3:28 pm : link
He's exciting when he's on.
RE: I love how much O’Neill despises umpires.  
black aces : 8/17/2019 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14534181 bceagle05 said:
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He got F'd on far too many outside pitches
It's bad enough with an ump who has a weird  
Jay in Toronto : 8/17/2019 3:39 pm : link
Strike zone. But this guy has it for one team and not the other.

I imagine the Yanks have the resources to do an analysis backed by video and send it to the Commissioner's office.
that Puig double  
RasputinPrime : 8/17/2019 3:41 pm : link
is caught by Judge or Maybin. Just saying.
RE: It's bad enough with an ump who has a weird  
adamg : 8/17/2019 3:42 pm : link
In comment 14534197 Jay in Toronto said:
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Strike zone. But this guy has it for one team and not the other.

I imagine the Yanks have the resources to do an analysis backed by video and send it to the Commissioner's office.


Exactly. That's why half the dugout got thrown out.

There are times to get on the starting pitching. Today isn't one of them.

PS Puig is a funny guy.
this  
black aces : 8/17/2019 3:43 pm : link
sucks
Britton was due for a stinker  
adamg : 8/17/2019 3:44 pm : link
Romine didn't help there
Well this is a great inning  
Jints in Carolina : 8/17/2019 3:44 pm : link
.
This is what baseball is all about  
adamg : 8/17/2019 3:49 pm : link
Game on the line. Britton's got to get out of this. Pressure's on.
big double play  
black aces : 8/17/2019 3:49 pm : link
whew
Fuck yeah!  
adamg : 8/17/2019 3:49 pm : link
Britton baby!
The thing about starting pitching  
Milton : 8/17/2019 3:53 pm : link
What really matters isn't how they are pitching in July or August, but how they are pitching in October. A guy who is struggling in August could be dominant in October and vice versa. It's such a long season. All of our starters have been dominant at times, it just comes down to whether or not there are three or four of them in top form come October. Obviously you have better odds of that happening if you are starting Verlander, Cole, and Greinke, but the "probabilistic" difference isn't as dramatic as you think.

Ron Guidry in 1978 had the most dominant season a Yankees pitcher has had during my years as a fan, but when it came to October, he was very hittable, not the same guy. And we've seen pitchers have mediocre seasons but be dominant come playoff time (this could be Tanaka maybe). So while I would gladly trade our starting staff for Houston's or LA's, it's not unfathomable that our guys are pitching better than their guys with 200+ innings on their arms.
A rare ofer from Urshela...  
Milton : 8/17/2019 3:56 pm : link
...as LeMahieu retakes the batting title lead!
Urshela had an 8 game hitting streak  
adamg : 8/17/2019 3:56 pm : link
and reached safely in 19 straight coming into today.

The end of an era...
Good post Milton  
adamg : 8/17/2019 3:58 pm : link
And I'd add: I'll take Tanaka in the big game. Dude rises to the occasion. And we may get Sevy back. And German looks good. It's baseball. In the short run, anything can happen.
Come on Chappy!  
adamg : 8/17/2019 3:59 pm : link
Let's guarantee the split.
I'll be honest  
adamg : 8/17/2019 4:00 pm : link
I'm not feeling Chappy today. I hope my fears are misplaced. Come on Chappy.
And then he throws 101 down the pipe  
adamg : 8/17/2019 4:01 pm : link
Wow
Well Chappy's got his velocity all the way back  
adamg : 8/17/2019 4:04 pm : link
everything is over 100
after a rough July  
black aces : 8/17/2019 4:04 pm : link
chapman looks like himself.

Velocity is all the way back. 103!
Big win  
adamg : 8/17/2019 4:05 pm : link
playoff like game.

BP comes through. We beat the CLE and the umps.
And Judge finally got a day off  
adamg : 8/17/2019 4:06 pm : link
Hope he stays hot tomorrow.
Chapman Finishes It  
Percy : 8/17/2019 4:07 pm : link
How great to see him such fine form, unruffled.
Gutsy win!  
Jints in Carolina : 8/17/2019 4:10 pm : link
And fuck the umps.
RE: Gutsy win!  
adamg : 8/17/2019 4:14 pm : link
In comment 14534236 Jints in Carolina said:
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And fuck the umps.


You're rolling now Jints. Keep it up.

We're 16-3 in the last 19 games.
Nice win with no Sanchez or Judge in lineup.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/17/2019 4:29 pm : link
I don't trust Britton at all, but he did a good job getting out of that mess. Chappy looks the best he has all season now.

Happy Gleyber Day!

This team is a disgrace  
UConn4523 : 8/17/2019 4:51 pm : link
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Some fans just won't be happy until the Yankees  
Deejboy : 8/17/2019 5:02 pm : link
win every game 15-0 and there is nothing to complain about. Every fanbase has that. It is just the way fans are. I get some fans just lost it when the Yankees are losing cause they care too much and badly need a sports team to give them enjoyment. Then they take it out on something. The pitching sucks, this guy sucks, everyone sucks. Then when the Yankees win, which they happen to do a lot, they say nothing and are happy. Until the next game.

The ones that really bother me are when even winning doesn't make them happy and they find things to complain about. Or even worse say nothing when the Yankees win but show up at the slightest bit of trouble to spread their misery. Those are the worst fans in sports. Actually they are not even fans at that point.
It doesn't bother me...  
manh george : 8/17/2019 5:18 pm : link
that winning doesn't make them happy.

Let them suffer.
This has been the coolest Yankees  
UConn4523 : 8/17/2019 5:57 pm : link
season of my lifetime. I have no idea how we will fare in the playoffs but if you don’t have a blast watching them every day then you are a miserable fuck that doesn’t deserve the 100 win season.
Great win.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/17/2019 6:43 pm : link
This at least guarantees a split in this series. Let's win the thing tomorrow, though.
Oakland beating Houston again  
Greg from LI : 8/17/2019 6:52 pm : link
8-4 in the 8th
Was on a 6 hour drive this afternoon.  
section125 : 8/17/2019 7:04 pm : link
Listened on XM radio to Suzyn and Jawhn. Suzyn was apoplectic with the umpires. She is normally pretty easy going, but she was pissed that the youngish umps in baseball are throwing people out. She was angry that they threw Gardy out for banging the bat. She said there is no rule against it. I'd bet Joe Torres comments the other day caused that to happen. It was bush league for Joe to open his mouth about it the other day. Not a fan of his in this "new" job.

If the league wants to silence chirping they need to find the root cause. We know what the root cause is - shitty umpiring behind the plate.

Since I did not see the calls (and there were several called Ks on Yankee players that Sterling seemed a bit hesitant about) were they bad calls or at least close?

Also, WTF is up with Paxton? And yes I said he needs an opener last week. Ok we know he is rough in the 1st. But in the 5th he got two quick outs then about pooped the bed.

Missed the game as well  
Carson53 : 8/17/2019 7:24 pm : link
on the links myself, guess I missed some excitement
out there....well Gardy, you gotta stop banging the dugout
roof about now. I think it's funny, but apparently those
in blue don't anymore. Another one in the W column.
Was Paxton just mediocre or better than his numbers
would indicate?
RE: Oakland beating Houston again  
Carson53 : 8/17/2019 7:27 pm : link
In comment 14534383 Greg from LI said:
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8-4 in the 8th
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Yanks will be out in the Bay Area soon, expect a tough series out there, then on to LA.
RE: Missed the game as well  
section125 : 8/17/2019 8:03 pm : link
In comment 14534405 Carson53 said:
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on the links myself, guess I missed some excitement
out there....well Gardy, you gotta stop banging the dugout
roof about now. I think it's funny, but apparently those
in blue don't anymore. Another one in the W column.
Was Paxton just mediocre or better than his numbers
would indicate?


Apparently all Gardy did was bang the roof. That should not warrant an ejection.

I listened and Paxton was great in innings 2,3 and 4, got two quick outs in the 5th, then shit the bed.
Rayos/Tigers  
GruningsOnTheHill : 8/17/2019 8:28 pm : link
deadlocked at nil in the 9th.
RE: RE: Missed the game as well  
Stu11 : 8/17/2019 8:52 pm : link
In comment 14534428 section125 said:
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In comment 14534405 Carson53 said:


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on the links myself, guess I missed some excitement
out there....well Gardy, you gotta stop banging the dugout
roof about now. I think it's funny, but apparently those
in blue don't anymore. Another one in the W column.
Was Paxton just mediocre or better than his numbers
would indicate?



Apparently all Gardy did was bang the roof. That should not warrant an ejection.

I listened and Paxton was great in innings 2,3 and 4, got two quick outs in the 5th, then shit the bed.

Excellent job the past 2 days. Umping was awful we know that, but awful job but Gardy getting tossed. Banging the roof is absolutely grounds for being tossed as you're showing up the ump. Like I said of course the HP ump was awful let Boone/Sabathia take care of that not the starting CF when Hicks is out and Judge is getting rest.
RE: RE: RE: Missed the game as well  
section125 : 8/17/2019 9:06 pm : link
In comment 14534466 Stu11 said:
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In comment 14534428 section125 said:


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In comment 14534405 Carson53 said:


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on the links myself, guess I missed some excitement
out there....well Gardy, you gotta stop banging the dugout
roof about now. I think it's funny, but apparently those
in blue don't anymore. Another one in the W column.
Was Paxton just mediocre or better than his numbers
would indicate?



Apparently all Gardy did was bang the roof. That should not warrant an ejection.

I listened and Paxton was great in innings 2,3 and 4, got two quick outs in the 5th, then shit the bed.


Excellent job the past 2 days. Umping was awful we know that, but awful job but Gardy getting tossed. Banging the roof is absolutely grounds for being tossed as you're showing up the ump. Like I said of course the HP ump was awful let Boone/Sabathia take care of that not the starting CF when Hicks is out and Judge is getting rest.


Stu there is nothing in the rules about that. How is it showing up the ump when it is in the dugout? He wasn't shouting at anyone or arguing the call. Is it any different than clapping hands? How about Hallion was looking for an excuse to toss Gardy after Torre opened his mouth the other day to support the umps after the guy embarrassed himself and the league last week? This was umpires' overreaching for faux control.

I really think Steinbrenner needs to have a come to Jesus meeting at the league office. Yeah, I'd have Gardy tone it down, but you cannot allow incompetent calls behind the plate effect the game and you cannot have umpires looking for revenge when they were shown to have screwed the pooch the week before and that is exactly what that was today.
Paxton was better than the numbers showed  
adamg : 8/17/2019 9:14 pm : link
He had the strikeout to get out of the inning, but the ump blew the strike call. Then he gave up two singles that could have easily been outs but they found the hole. It was more the bad umping than bad pitching.

I consider it a 5 inning 2 run deal. The early runs are concerning. The later ones were bullshit caused by bad umping.
Section come on man  
Stu11 : 8/17/2019 9:25 pm : link
That's not "clapping your hands" after a good play. Thats the middle of a tossing melee and Gardy whacking the roof. There's no rule for tossing people, jumps have all the discression there. Would I have done it? No. I dont want to start a whole arguement here. Great job by the Yanks. They are rolling. As for the Torre shit its exactly what we lived through with Bobbie Brown when he was AL president in the 80's and he fucked us every chance he got to not seem like he was favoring us. I dont care as much a about this as much as Torre mentioning they may limit the mics, I love Jomboy and his hot mic breakdowns!
RE: Section come on man  
section125 : 8/17/2019 10:06 pm : link
In comment 14534495 Stu11 said:
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That's not "clapping your hands" after a good play. Thats the middle of a tossing melee and Gardy whacking the roof. There's no rule for tossing people, jumps have all the discression there. Would I have done it? No. I dont want to start a whole arguement here. Great job by the Yanks. They are rolling. As for the Torre shit its exactly what we lived through with Bobbie Brown when he was AL president in the 80's and he fucked us every chance he got to not seem like he was favoring us. I dont care as much a about this as much as Torre mentioning they may limit the mics, I love Jomboy and his hot mic breakdowns!


We disagree. My point was clapping to say, come on umps get this right. Anyway, Hallion and the umps were looking for a chance to toss Gardy. It was cheap and vindictive. Suzyn Waldman went ballistic and called out the league. I did not care for Torre as the manager (I may be the only one in Yankeedom that feels this way), I thought he got a free ride after Gene Michael and Buck Showalter built that team, and I thought his comments opened the door for this type of ejection. The umpires probably got excoriated after last week and I think they wanted to extract revenge. I'm telling you Hal has to go see Manfred and exert a little power slap up side his head.

I'll drop it because there is no point in arguing with you as you are probably more correct than me. I'm just seething at the league for allowing rookie umps to inject themselves into a game after being the cause of the ruckus. There was no reason that Hallion couldn't have told Gardy to knock it off - none. And I think Cashman deserves and explanation.
Thoughts about Kay bring in again?  
Rover : 8/18/2019 2:00 am : link
He does have the best voice, he just tries too hard with extra babble. If he stuck to calling the game instead of trim my to add on he’d be great.
Kay has decent homerun calls  
adamg : 8/18/2019 2:56 am : link
But he's a fucking douchebag of a person. So it's hard to tolerate him for that reason. (It's that whole sports talk radio shtick those guys have.) Just as an announcer, he's aiight.

In an ideal world, Singleton would be the PBP guy.
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