He was always vying with Chris Davis for the worst hitter in baseball. Of course he does have value for a post-season team as a pinch runner and defensive replacement. Apparently his sprint speed is a little down and so are his defensive metrics. So his only two tools which are elite aren't as elite anymore. The Yankees have Terrance Gore which makes Hamilton redundant. And Wade who is more valuable.
The only thing is the uncertainty with Hicks and Hamilton is a pure CFer. Could Billy Hamilton make a game saving catch in the 9th inning to win a playoff game that Terrance Gore couldn't? Sure but the Yankees are planning on Hicks being healthy and he would be out there anyway.
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where are your friends prdave and Mike Graves to lament this Yankees team?
Great comeback. Having concerns about the glaring weakness on the team leads to responses like this. No response to a legitimate question posed. We haven't pitched well. Our ERA is in the bottom half of MLB for the past week and is middle of the pack for the season.
It's one thing to say the starting pitching is a weakness, I agree Â
It's another to ONLY talk about the weaknesses on the team. aces is a shitty poster and I don't take his criticisms of the team seriously because he never says anything good.
If you don't see how the starting pitching has been better lately, you're just ridiculously entitled.
why? because I disagree with you? I do not only talk about the negatives. I mention the starting pitching a lot because its a huge hurdle for this team to win a WS. Basically everything else is in place which it why it bothers me so much.
RE: It's one thing to say the starting pitching is a weakness, I agree Â
If you don't see how the starting pitching has been better lately, you're just ridiculously entitled.
Comparing the last week to historically bad pitching makes us entitled? They still have pitched to a 5+ ERA over the last week. Its concerning that they very well could be in a hole after an inning or 2 come playoff time. As good as their lineup is, its far from ideal.
He is a super star. A cornerstone player for 10+ years. It was such an unbelievable trade. The Yankees has their eye on him a long time. They tried signing him originally.
Im going to tell all of you that our starting pitching is a concern relative to the rest of the strengths of the team.
I will also find any slight worries, negatives, perjoratives, assertions of downsides that I can find and post them during losses.
I will refrain from celebrating, acknowledging, praising, pointing out positives or posting during wins
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What really matters isn't how they are pitching in July or August, but how they are pitching in October. A guy who is struggling in August could be dominant in October and vice versa. It's such a long season. All of our starters have been dominant at times, it just comes down to whether or not there are three or four of them in top form come October. Obviously you have better odds of that happening if you are starting Verlander, Cole, and Greinke, but the "probabilistic" difference isn't as dramatic as you think.
Ron Guidry in 1978 had the most dominant season a Yankees pitcher has had during my years as a fan, but when it came to October, he was very hittable, not the same guy. And we've seen pitchers have mediocre seasons but be dominant come playoff time (this could be Tanaka maybe). So while I would gladly trade our starting staff for Houston's or LA's, it's not unfathomable that our guys are pitching better than their guys with 200+ innings on their arms.
And I'd add: I'll take Tanaka in the big game. Dude rises to the occasion. And we may get Sevy back. And German looks good. It's baseball. In the short run, anything can happen.
win every game 15-0 and there is nothing to complain about. Every fanbase has that. It is just the way fans are. I get some fans just lost it when the Yankees are losing cause they care too much and badly need a sports team to give them enjoyment. Then they take it out on something. The pitching sucks, this guy sucks, everyone sucks. Then when the Yankees win, which they happen to do a lot, they say nothing and are happy. Until the next game.
The ones that really bother me are when even winning doesn't make them happy and they find things to complain about. Or even worse say nothing when the Yankees win but show up at the slightest bit of trouble to spread their misery. Those are the worst fans in sports. Actually they are not even fans at that point.
season of my lifetime. I have no idea how we will fare in the playoffs but if you don’t have a blast watching them every day then you are a miserable fuck that doesn’t deserve the 100 win season.
Listened on XM radio to Suzyn and Jawhn. Suzyn was apoplectic with the umpires. She is normally pretty easy going, but she was pissed that the youngish umps in baseball are throwing people out. She was angry that they threw Gardy out for banging the bat. She said there is no rule against it. I'd bet Joe Torres comments the other day caused that to happen. It was bush league for Joe to open his mouth about it the other day. Not a fan of his in this "new" job.
If the league wants to silence chirping they need to find the root cause. We know what the root cause is - shitty umpiring behind the plate.
Since I did not see the calls (and there were several called Ks on Yankee players that Sterling seemed a bit hesitant about) were they bad calls or at least close?
Also, WTF is up with Paxton? And yes I said he needs an opener last week. Ok we know he is rough in the 1st. But in the 5th he got two quick outs then about pooped the bed.
on the links myself, guess I missed some excitement
out there....well Gardy, you gotta stop banging the dugout
roof about now. I think it's funny, but apparently those
in blue don't anymore. Another one in the W column.
Was Paxton just mediocre or better than his numbers
would indicate?
on the links myself, guess I missed some excitement
out there....well Gardy, you gotta stop banging the dugout
roof about now. I think it's funny, but apparently those
in blue don't anymore. Another one in the W column.
Was Paxton just mediocre or better than his numbers
would indicate?
Apparently all Gardy did was bang the roof. That should not warrant an ejection.
I listened and Paxton was great in innings 2,3 and 4, got two quick outs in the 5th, then shit the bed.
on the links myself, guess I missed some excitement
out there....well Gardy, you gotta stop banging the dugout
roof about now. I think it's funny, but apparently those
in blue don't anymore. Another one in the W column.
Was Paxton just mediocre or better than his numbers
would indicate?
Apparently all Gardy did was bang the roof. That should not warrant an ejection.
I listened and Paxton was great in innings 2,3 and 4, got two quick outs in the 5th, then shit the bed.
Excellent job the past 2 days. Umping was awful we know that, but awful job but Gardy getting tossed. Banging the roof is absolutely grounds for being tossed as you're showing up the ump. Like I said of course the HP ump was awful let Boone/Sabathia take care of that not the starting CF when Hicks is out and Judge is getting rest.
on the links myself, guess I missed some excitement
out there....well Gardy, you gotta stop banging the dugout
roof about now. I think it's funny, but apparently those
in blue don't anymore. Another one in the W column.
Was Paxton just mediocre or better than his numbers
would indicate?
Apparently all Gardy did was bang the roof. That should not warrant an ejection.
I listened and Paxton was great in innings 2,3 and 4, got two quick outs in the 5th, then shit the bed.
Excellent job the past 2 days. Umping was awful we know that, but awful job but Gardy getting tossed. Banging the roof is absolutely grounds for being tossed as you're showing up the ump. Like I said of course the HP ump was awful let Boone/Sabathia take care of that not the starting CF when Hicks is out and Judge is getting rest.
Stu there is nothing in the rules about that. How is it showing up the ump when it is in the dugout? He wasn't shouting at anyone or arguing the call. Is it any different than clapping hands? How about Hallion was looking for an excuse to toss Gardy after Torre opened his mouth the other day to support the umps after the guy embarrassed himself and the league last week? This was umpires' overreaching for faux control.
I really think Steinbrenner needs to have a come to Jesus meeting at the league office. Yeah, I'd have Gardy tone it down, but you cannot allow incompetent calls behind the plate effect the game and you cannot have umpires looking for revenge when they were shown to have screwed the pooch the week before and that is exactly what that was today.
He had the strikeout to get out of the inning, but the ump blew the strike call. Then he gave up two singles that could have easily been outs but they found the hole. It was more the bad umping than bad pitching.
I consider it a 5 inning 2 run deal. The early runs are concerning. The later ones were bullshit caused by bad umping.
That's not "clapping your hands" after a good play. Thats the middle of a tossing melee and Gardy whacking the roof. There's no rule for tossing people, jumps have all the discression there. Would I have done it? No. I dont want to start a whole arguement here. Great job by the Yanks. They are rolling. As for the Torre shit its exactly what we lived through with Bobbie Brown when he was AL president in the 80's and he fucked us every chance he got to not seem like he was favoring us. I dont care as much a about this as much as Torre mentioning they may limit the mics, I love Jomboy and his hot mic breakdowns!
That's not "clapping your hands" after a good play. Thats the middle of a tossing melee and Gardy whacking the roof. There's no rule for tossing people, jumps have all the discression there. Would I have done it? No. I dont want to start a whole arguement here. Great job by the Yanks. They are rolling. As for the Torre shit its exactly what we lived through with Bobbie Brown when he was AL president in the 80's and he fucked us every chance he got to not seem like he was favoring us. I dont care as much a about this as much as Torre mentioning they may limit the mics, I love Jomboy and his hot mic breakdowns!
We disagree. My point was clapping to say, come on umps get this right. Anyway, Hallion and the umps were looking for a chance to toss Gardy. It was cheap and vindictive. Suzyn Waldman went ballistic and called out the league. I did not care for Torre as the manager (I may be the only one in Yankeedom that feels this way), I thought he got a free ride after Gene Michael and Buck Showalter built that team, and I thought his comments opened the door for this type of ejection. The umpires probably got excoriated after last week and I think they wanted to extract revenge. I'm telling you Hal has to go see Manfred and exert a little power slap up side his head.
I'll drop it because there is no point in arguing with you as you are probably more correct than me. I'm just seething at the league for allowing rookie umps to inject themselves into a game after being the cause of the ruckus. There was no reason that Hallion couldn't have told Gardy to knock it off - none. And I think Cashman deserves and explanation.
But he's a fucking douchebag of a person. So it's hard to tolerate him for that reason. (It's that whole sports talk radio shtick those guys have.) Just as an announcer, he's aiight.
In an ideal world, Singleton would be the PBP guy.
The only thing is the uncertainty with Hicks and Hamilton is a pure CFer. Could Billy Hamilton make a game saving catch in the 9th inning to win a playoff game that Terrance Gore couldn't? Sure but the Yankees are planning on Hicks being healthy and he would be out there anyway.
Mariano got the chance to see the new "Welcome to Cooperstown" exhibit at the Yankees Museum this morning. Check it out if you're heading to Yankee Stadium any time soon.
...and here we fracking go.
sorry 1st and 2nd not bases loaded
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What is frustrating is the stuff is there. He has a great arm.
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It seemed to me that he just overslid the base. And that Tauchman had and made no complaint about being called out under the circumstances.
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the bag AFTER hie is ripped off the bag by Lindor. That's BS.
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It seemed to me that he just overslid the base. And that Tauchman had and made no complaint about being called out under the circumstances.
I just don't like players being called out where the sweeping tag helps them off the bag.
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the bag AFTER hie is ripped off the bag by Lindor. That's BS.
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It seemed to me that he just overslid the base. And that Tauchman had and made no complaint about being called out under the circumstances.
I just don't like players being called out where the sweeping tag helps them off the bag.
Fair enough.
And he is smart enough to close the deal on the more important parts of his life even where he has to slog through the ocre mud to get there.
Didi big fly and the lead!
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Pour it on boys.
+1000
This
Yea, thats the only issue here.
Sarcasm doesn't hide the fact that our pitching is suspect.
If you have no concerns about the pitching you are clueless.
Same. And as well it should. It's not very good and we're going to be facing better lineups in the postseason.
Great comeback. Having concerns about the glaring weakness on the team leads to responses like this. No response to a legitimate question posed. We haven't pitched well. Our ERA is in the bottom half of MLB for the past week and is middle of the pack for the season.
If you don't see how the starting pitching has been better lately, you're just ridiculously entitled.
If you don't see how the starting pitching has been better lately, you're just ridiculously entitled.
Comparing the last week to historically bad pitching makes us entitled? They still have pitched to a 5+ ERA over the last week. Its concerning that they very well could be in a hole after an inning or 2 come playoff time. As good as their lineup is, its far from ideal.
6-4
Cole as big a prick as he may be needs to be a top priority.
He is a super star. A cornerstone player for 10+ years. It was such an unbelievable trade. The Yankees has their eye on him a long time. They tried signing him originally.
I expect their incompetence to continue well into the playoffs.
And those guys are fucking savages in that box.
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I expect their incompetence to continue well into the playoffs.
t's gotten worse now. Half the team has been thrown out of the game by umpire sensitivities. How to ruin a game.
That a big frustrating side effect of these shitty umps.
I will also find any slight worries, negatives, perjoratives, assertions of downsides that I can find and post them during losses.
I will refrain from celebrating, acknowledging, praising, pointing out positives or posting during wins
In return for this original, insightful, near Patent Office level flood of brilliant scintillating information that none of you has ever seen elsewhere - I want acknowledgments of my brilliance, never to be modified, challenged or noticed as a worry wort pessimist at best and an annoyance at worst.
You can begin the string of praising posts for my contributions to these threads, your fandom, your knowledge, the New York Yankees and your lives.
Please do this quickly for I have to leave soon. Mr Cashman himself has sent a limo so I can address the Analytical Team of the New York Yankees at a dinner as soon as the Tampa contingent gets here on their private jet.
He got F'd on far too many outside pitches
I imagine the Yanks have the resources to do an analysis backed by video and send it to the Commissioner's office.
I imagine the Yanks have the resources to do an analysis backed by video and send it to the Commissioner's office.
Exactly. That's why half the dugout got thrown out.
There are times to get on the starting pitching. Today isn't one of them.
PS Puig is a funny guy.
Ron Guidry in 1978 had the most dominant season a Yankees pitcher has had during my years as a fan, but when it came to October, he was very hittable, not the same guy. And we've seen pitchers have mediocre seasons but be dominant come playoff time (this could be Tanaka maybe). So while I would gladly trade our starting staff for Houston's or LA's, it's not unfathomable that our guys are pitching better than their guys with 200+ innings on their arms.
The end of an era...
Velocity is all the way back. 103!
BP comes through. We beat the CLE and the umps.
You're rolling now Jints. Keep it up.
We're 16-3 in the last 19 games.
Happy Gleyber Day!
The ones that really bother me are when even winning doesn't make them happy and they find things to complain about. Or even worse say nothing when the Yankees win but show up at the slightest bit of trouble to spread their misery. Those are the worst fans in sports. Actually they are not even fans at that point.
Let them suffer.
If the league wants to silence chirping they need to find the root cause. We know what the root cause is - shitty umpiring behind the plate.
Since I did not see the calls (and there were several called Ks on Yankee players that Sterling seemed a bit hesitant about) were they bad calls or at least close?
Also, WTF is up with Paxton? And yes I said he needs an opener last week. Ok we know he is rough in the 1st. But in the 5th he got two quick outs then about pooped the bed.
out there....well Gardy, you gotta stop banging the dugout
roof about now. I think it's funny, but apparently those
in blue don't anymore. Another one in the W column.
Was Paxton just mediocre or better than his numbers
would indicate?
Yanks will be out in the Bay Area soon, expect a tough series out there, then on to LA.
out there....well Gardy, you gotta stop banging the dugout
roof about now. I think it's funny, but apparently those
in blue don't anymore. Another one in the W column.
Was Paxton just mediocre or better than his numbers
would indicate?
Apparently all Gardy did was bang the roof. That should not warrant an ejection.
I listened and Paxton was great in innings 2,3 and 4, got two quick outs in the 5th, then shit the bed.
Quote:
on the links myself, guess I missed some excitement
out there....well Gardy, you gotta stop banging the dugout
roof about now. I think it's funny, but apparently those
in blue don't anymore. Another one in the W column.
Was Paxton just mediocre or better than his numbers
would indicate?
Apparently all Gardy did was bang the roof. That should not warrant an ejection.
I listened and Paxton was great in innings 2,3 and 4, got two quick outs in the 5th, then shit the bed.
Excellent job the past 2 days. Umping was awful we know that, but awful job but Gardy getting tossed. Banging the roof is absolutely grounds for being tossed as you're showing up the ump. Like I said of course the HP ump was awful let Boone/Sabathia take care of that not the starting CF when Hicks is out and Judge is getting rest.
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on the links myself, guess I missed some excitement
out there....well Gardy, you gotta stop banging the dugout
roof about now. I think it's funny, but apparently those
in blue don't anymore. Another one in the W column.
Was Paxton just mediocre or better than his numbers
would indicate?
Apparently all Gardy did was bang the roof. That should not warrant an ejection.
I listened and Paxton was great in innings 2,3 and 4, got two quick outs in the 5th, then shit the bed.
Excellent job the past 2 days. Umping was awful we know that, but awful job but Gardy getting tossed. Banging the roof is absolutely grounds for being tossed as you're showing up the ump. Like I said of course the HP ump was awful let Boone/Sabathia take care of that not the starting CF when Hicks is out and Judge is getting rest.
Stu there is nothing in the rules about that. How is it showing up the ump when it is in the dugout? He wasn't shouting at anyone or arguing the call. Is it any different than clapping hands? How about Hallion was looking for an excuse to toss Gardy after Torre opened his mouth the other day to support the umps after the guy embarrassed himself and the league last week? This was umpires' overreaching for faux control.
I really think Steinbrenner needs to have a come to Jesus meeting at the league office. Yeah, I'd have Gardy tone it down, but you cannot allow incompetent calls behind the plate effect the game and you cannot have umpires looking for revenge when they were shown to have screwed the pooch the week before and that is exactly what that was today.
I consider it a 5 inning 2 run deal. The early runs are concerning. The later ones were bullshit caused by bad umping.
We disagree. My point was clapping to say, come on umps get this right. Anyway, Hallion and the umps were looking for a chance to toss Gardy. It was cheap and vindictive. Suzyn Waldman went ballistic and called out the league. I did not care for Torre as the manager (I may be the only one in Yankeedom that feels this way), I thought he got a free ride after Gene Michael and Buck Showalter built that team, and I thought his comments opened the door for this type of ejection. The umpires probably got excoriated after last week and I think they wanted to extract revenge. I'm telling you Hal has to go see Manfred and exert a little power slap up side his head.
I'll drop it because there is no point in arguing with you as you are probably more correct than me. I'm just seething at the league for allowing rookie umps to inject themselves into a game after being the cause of the ruckus. There was no reason that Hallion couldn't have told Gardy to knock it off - none. And I think Cashman deserves and explanation.
In an ideal world, Singleton would be the PBP guy.