Just heard Jamie Dukes defend Daniel Jones

Thanks.

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Sit Jones for two years because he fumbled twice in his second preseason game? Good grief

But from what I watched he was under so much duress it's fair to wait-and-see how he performs with (hopefully) more protection

2nd fumble, it seemed he felt the pressure and was stepping up, but didn't protect the ball enough. Seemed this play's failure was much more the OL's mistake - but still a teaching moment for DJ

First one was a rook flub if not a miscomm, can't happen moving fwd but fair so long as it doesn't persist

but it looked like the snap was fine?
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go figure...that was a good addition of detail on that play

Thanks for posting!

Just one more reason why fans suck. Despite what Jones is showing with his arm and skill set, he should be sent to purgatory for not one, but two seasons because of a botched snap and a strip fumble.

Never mind the fact that he’s stillness getting used to taking snaps under center that he rarely did in college and is taking snaps from a guy he likely doesn’t have a ton of time with. Nope. Needs to be benched for two seasons after that!

In comment 14534096 Ben in Tampa said:

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Sit Jones for two years because he fumbled twice in his second preseason game? Good grief

The good ones get cut off. I was watching this before the game and a caller had to correct these guys that McAdoo didn't get fired because of the benching and that the two superbowl teams main core from Accorsi were the ones that really won the 2007 and 2011 superbowls (with an awesome draft from 2007 from JR, the last time he was in charge of scouting). But they cut him off and started screaming about two superbowls as GM and McAdoo got fired because of the benching. The national media loves creating their own narratives because they don't deep dive on the specific teams like we do.

Eli has fumbled the ball I don’t know 50 million times

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in front of him, he isn't going to start developing that in the NFL.

In comment 14534128 mattlawson said:

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Eli has fumbled the ball I don’t know 50 million times

Let’s keep this objective and not be given towards hyperbole. 50 million? 49 million perhaps, but I think 5o is an exaggeration.

Too bad that isn't what sells. Thanks for the info. There are still hardcore fans, like many of us, who do car. Much appreciated.

then I guess Haskins needs to sit for 3 or 4 years..

Either way, Jones has to get that snap even if the center fucked up. The second fumble his eyes were downfield, he could have avoided the rusher or protected the ball better but it was also partly on the o-line letting the guy get through after the chip and the defender made a really good play on the ball.

Isn't that standard?

In comment 14534188 since1925 said:

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Isn't that standard?

Someone needs to tell Josh Allen he probably needs to retire

Sam Darnold wouldn't play until 2028

Jones had less fumbles lost in 3 years than Darnold did in 2.

Was Jones has been practicing all camp with second team and that botched exchange came with first team line(Halapio)..you do tend to see plays like that more with new QB/Center pairings. Not that Jones hasn’t taken any reps with Halapio, I know he has...but it is still a fair point.

In comment 14534228 BSIMatt said:

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Was Jones has been practicing all camp with second team and that botched exchange came with first team line(Halapio)..you do tend to see plays like that more with new QB/Center pairings. Not that Jones hasn’t taken any reps with Halapio, I know he has...but it is still a fair point.

IIRC it was reported that last weeks preseason game vs the Jets was the first time Jones has played with the 1st team OL including practice.

One of the rare sports person that doesn't make me sick with their schtick and clickbait.

give Eli $50M and extend him for 2 more years. SMH.

In comment 14534112 BigBlueShock said:

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Just one more reason why fans suck. Despite what Jones is showing with his arm and skill set, he should be sent to purgatory for not one, but two seasons because of a botched snap and a strip fumble. Never mind the fact that he’s stillness getting used to taking snaps under center that he rarely did in college and is taking snaps from a guy he likely doesn’t have a ton of time with. Nope. Needs to be benched for two seasons after that!

He definitely should sit behind Eli for two more seasons because Eli never fumbles it. Right?

That snap clearly hits DJ in the hands. DJ just dropped it, probably rushing a touch, but just a random error that’s neither a trend nor unheard of for QBs.

This seems to me the opposite of the prior trend, now DJ can do no wrong? Kid dropped a snap, BFD. Let’s not blame everyone else.

That fan was crazy: two years? That’s BS. He should sit forever. We should draft another QB and force DJ to sit behind that guy. For his entire contract. That is the only sane move for a Rookie QB making minor errors in execution in the preseason. Then when his contract is up we should make him our Franchise player to continue to sit him. That’s the only move a good GM would make

In comment 14534342 Daniel in MI said:

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That snap clearly hits DJ in the hands. DJ just dropped it, probably rushing a touch, but just a random error that’s neither a trend nor unheard of for QBs. This seems to me the opposite of the prior trend, now DJ can do no wrong? Kid dropped a snap, BFD. Let’s not blame everyone else.

It's quite common for fans to defend their players no matter what.

However, we certainly should investigate the whole play vs assuming if we want good discussion.

Back in Coughlin's\Gilbride's offense it was quite common for a wr to run an incorrect route considering that offense relied on both the qb and wr to correctly read not only the type of coverage the defense was in but also what coverage techniques they were using. Not to mention the defense knew this and tried to not only fool the qb, but also fool the wr.

It's interesting because sometimes we don't study the play and assume we know what happened, yet over and over again we are shown there are more dimensions that we're not b seeing. Yet, also at times the simple answer is correct

Pretty sure he’s not a Giants fan, was just passing along what he said, as well as what his cohost said.

He is a very smart kid that will learn from his mistakes.

Teaching moments for DJ.

Smart, accurate, athletic, doesn't mentally fall apart after a mistake - All very important attributes of a successful NFL QB.

In comment 14534223 BSIMatt said:

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Jones had less fumbles lost in 3 years than Darnold did in 2.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument. Holy hell.

I can't tell...

That said, Jones wasn't taking snaps from under center in college. So its new to him... Just saying.

But hey, this is the time to have these kinds of mistakes, and as somebody said above, these are teaching moments. Not a big deal.