The morning after the draft, there was plenty of questions/disappointment/outrage with the selection of Jones at 6, especially since Allen was there for the taking. Well, would anyone today trade Jones for Allen straight up? In fact, would you trade him straight up for anyone in the top 10 selections in this years draft? I know it's way to early to know how it will all pan out, but the excitement of having a potential future starting franchise QB is hard to top. As a side note, after rewatching Fridays game, he only had one bad pass. The first incompletion was thrown short. Incomplete pass to TJ Jones was a beautiful pass, but he stumbled coming out of his break. The other was a pure drop.
You don; want to seem to seem to give QB the merit it deserves. You say it is important but you brush it under the rug. If RB is important as you say then our discussion is mute.
The EFC. That’s who... ; )
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You don; want to seem to seem to give QB the merit it deserves. You say it is important but you brush it under the rug. If RB is important as you say then our discussion is mute.
It is morons like you why its an accepted truth by those that have played the game that the QB gets more props than they deserve when they win and more blame than they should when they lose. It's moot btw.
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. Scott fucking Mitchell. Bravo. But yea, let’s use that Detroit model to rip the great RB.
Yeah right, I'm ripping a guy I called arguably the 3rd greatest RB in the history of the NFL. I;m ripping the position of RB vs QB. Otherwise I'll ask you as well- name a SB MVP RB in the past 25 years? How mnay RB's are taken in top 5 vs QB's? WHat is the most important position on the football field?
Unbelievable-- I'm ripping a guy who I say is at least 3rd best ever as a RB and you say I'm ripping him. Okay buddy sure.
My point is it is harder to build with RB;s. If it isn't what does "QB being the most important position mean then? For anyone that believes the QB is most impt - You can't just say a QB is most important then not believe a QB is easier to build a championship team vs a RB.
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You don; want to seem to seem to give QB the merit it deserves. You say it is important but you brush it under the rug. If RB is important as you say then our discussion is mute.
It is morons like you why its an accepted truth by those that have played the game that the QB gets more props than they deserve when they win and more blame than they should when they lose. It's moot btw.
Great here comes the insults now. I give you stats of Sb MVP's and you throw insults. Way to go. You;ve made up a theory which is basically laughed ta by the NFL by not taking RB;s instead they take QB's and somehow it's some huge conspiracy that over 25 years no RB has been MVP - all because it doesn't fit your theory.
I guess it doesn't matter much to Eli's legacy or getting into the HOF.
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goes to QBs even if they didn't deserve it.
I guess it doesn't matter much to Eli's legacy or getting into the HOF.
Who gives a shit about legacies or HOF. It is a media talking point. I am talking about winning football games from a practical standpoint.
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goes to QBs even if they didn't deserve it.
I guess it doesn't matter much to Eli's legacy or getting into the HOF.
Who gives a shit about legacies or HOF. It is a media talking point. I am talking about winning football games from a practical standpoint.
I can't wait for the next time a thread pops up and some posters make a point to say Eli belongs in the HOF as two time SUper Bowl MVP and you tell them "who gives a shit about he was a SB MVP?"
Noooo- it's your theories that mean jack squat. You are pretending like you are some sort of expert. You are trying to place yourself above the fray. It;s called being delusional and myopic.
"How he played in both 4 quarters" according to your subjective opinion? I agree he played well but hwo decides who plays god enouhg? You? And for example the other 3 quarters don't count?
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Although the defense as a whole deserved it. Tremendous performance.
"How he played in both 4 quarters" according to your subjective opinion? I agree he played well but hwo decides who plays god enouhg? You? And for example the other 3 quarters don't count?
As opposed to the writers and broadcasters who have never sniffed the football field, let alone at QB. Yeh I trust my opinion a bit more.
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Although the defense as a whole deserved it. Tremendous performance.
"How he played in both 4 quarters" according to your subjective opinion? I agree he played well but hwo decides who plays god enouhg? You? And for example the other 3 quarters don't count?
As opposed to the writers and broadcasters who have never sniffed the football field, let alone at QB. Yeh I trust my opinion a bit more.
Yes ofc. You who sits behind a computer anonymously making millions from your expert analysis. Yeah right I'll believe you.
I can't believe you said this after you have thrown insults at me. I've got to go and I don't want to say this but I can't resist so I'll say this lightly--
Ever watch "Married With Children?"
Have a good night.
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can't know anything about the game? Guess those guys that make 5k coaching high school are completely clueless.
I can't believe you said this after you have thrown insults at me. I've got to go and I don't want to say this but I can't resist so I'll say this lightly--
Ever watch "Married With Children?"
Have a good night.
You asked me why I trusted my opinion as opposed to the writers and broadcasters who vote on Superbowl MVP I answered. A lot of times they don't have more than a superficial understanding of the game, which is fine, but it leads to a lot of QBs that win are good and quarterbacks that lose suck. QB is the most important position, but it isn't the be all and all that people make it out to be.
Here is what was written:
Look at those Lions teams Sanders was on. From 1989 to 1998, it has been the most successful stretch of Lions football in the post-SB Era.
- 3 seasons of 10 wins or more.
- 5 Playoff appearances
- 2 division titles
Prior to Sanders, the Lions finished under .500 the previous 5 years, with a high in wins of 7. From 2000 to 2010 after Sanders, the Lions didn't make the playoffs and never finished higher than 3rd in the division. Finished last in the division 6 times.
Without Sanders, the Lions have gone to the playoffs only 7 other times since 1970.
Led his team nowhere??
Perhaps we can get another 5 paragraphs of dyslexic ramblings to support that?
Without Sanders, the Lions have gone to the playoffs only 7 other times since 1970.
Led his team nowhere??
Perhaps we can get another 5 paragraphs of dyslexic ramblings to support that?
And in those playoff games the Lions were 1-5. Sanders was keyed on and only broke 100 rushing yards once.
Why? Because the Lions' QBs were: Erik Kramer, Rodney Peete, Andre Ware, Scott Mitchell, David Krieg.
Bullshit. Results and to a smaller extent stats don't matter. But just because it's preseason passes don't magically more accurate.
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Without Sanders, the Lions have gone to the playoffs only 7 other times since 1970.
Led his team nowhere??
Perhaps we can get another 5 paragraphs of dyslexic ramblings to support that?
And in those playoff games the Lions were 1-5. Sanders was keyed on and only broke 100 rushing yards once.
Why? Because the Lions' QBs were: Erik Kramer, Rodney Peete, Andre Ware, Scott Mitchell, David Krieg.
Imagine if they had a halfway competent QB.