Even though it was to kinda trash Eli Manning. I agree with the article and so do a ton of Giants fans. BBI is wonderful but it does sometimes feel like a foreign land for Giants fans and especially those of us who revere Eli. He may not be the best player, but you can definitely make a strong case that he is the most important. From the SBs, to the records, the streak, the WPMOTY honor, funny commercials and media appearances like Sunday Night, to being a member of so called football royalty. All of it combined has reached everyone.
I frequently mention my family in my posts and that’s because we’re Giants fans through generations. Through the men, women and kids. The most fascinating thing about Eli is how everyone from my grandfather, grandmother, uncles, aunts, etc., we always all stood strongly behind Eli. He NEVER let us down. That is very unique. Some say Lawrence Taylor is the greatest player, but most of the women (and many of the men) in my family can’t stomach him anymore. On the field and OFF, Eli is it. The Jeter comparison is common and understandable. Not sure why so many fans here dislike him. I hope Daniel Jones can earn this kind of stature one day. But it won’t be easy.
...Charlie Conerly's name never comes up in these shitfests.
Well, it possible Eli’s new son is named after Charlie Conerly. If he ever plays QB for the Giants, Charlie Conerly’s name will come up a bit more. Which would be pretty cool.
Every week the coaches could count on a QB to achieve without any worry about the game plan, the opposition or the physical or mental ability of the QB ... Gave a lot of time to insure other matters will be taken care of ...
That importance to a coaching staff is probably the best the Giants ever had ...
The discussion should've ended when I said Benny Friedman Â
How can you argue that any of the players that followed were more important than him (or as important as him)? The guy revolutionized the passing game in all of football. He was the New York Football Giants during his years with the team.
Every week the coaches could count on a QB to achieve without any worry about the game plan, the opposition or the physical or mental ability of the QB ... Gave a lot of time to insure other matters will be taken care of ...
That importance to a coaching staff is probably the best the Giants ever had ...
Eli was reliable and durable but his actual output was very hot and cold over the years. There were some brilliant moments and horrid stinkers.
what Eli did when he was 27 and 31. It has NO relevancy in this year. Yeah, he’s one of the greatest Giants ever! BUT, the organization would be better off NOW, turning the page.
Anyone over 55 years old who roots for the Giants knows exactly who is the #1 NY Giant in any and/or every positive way. #2 is closer to #20 than he is to #1. You want to discuss Eli being #2 since 1965 when I really started going to games you'd have a good case. I can't speak to pre 1965 when it comes to #2. But there is 0.0 discussion who #1 is period.
Dragged a shit team to a championship like Eli did in 2011. That was a 4 win team if not for Eli. Jeter played on loaded teams with a payroll 2x the size of the rest of the league.
he was a huge part of the Camelot Era. And he played when the NFC was an absolute beast in the '80s with the Skins, Bears, and 9ers. The Giants were really a pretender until Simms emerged as the leader of the offense.
He, unfortunately, gets screwed by the fact he got hurt in 1990 when he was having a sensational year before the injury against Buffalo...But I refuse to hold that against him.
Without him, there is no Camelot. And that carries significant weight.
he was a huge part of the Camelot Era. And he played when the NFC was an absolute beast in the '80s with the Skins, Bears, and 9ers. The Giants were really a pretender until Simms emerged as the leader of the offense.
He, unfortunately, gets screwed by the fact he got hurt in 1990 when he was having a sensational year before the injury against Buffalo...But I refuse to hold that against him.
Without him, there is no Camelot. And that carries significant weight.
I totally agree with all of this. It was very difficult in the pre salary cap era to break into the top tier of teams. There was no such thing as worst to first as is common now.
Phil Simms never had a great wide receiver. He also played in the pre climate change old Giants stadium which was always very windy and cold and still compiled huge numbers.
The most important Giants after the 50's-60's were Simms/Young/Parcells.
I was going to mention GY and Parcells. And even Rozelle for stepping in and brokering the deal for GY.
But I was thinking the OP meant players.
The Giants has a championship caliber D for a long time actually in those early '80s. However, it wasn't until Simms found himself that this organization became an NFL power. Not recognizing that is a poor understanding of the history here...
The most important Giants were the owners, since they paid for the damn thing. I suppose the Gm's would be second since they made sure that there was someone to step on the field. I might put the groundskeepers third in terms of importance.
I frequently mention my family in my posts and that’s because we’re Giants fans through generations. Through the men, women and kids. The most fascinating thing about Eli is how everyone from my grandfather, grandmother, uncles, aunts, etc., we always all stood strongly behind Eli. He NEVER let us down. That is very unique. Some say Lawrence Taylor is the greatest player, but most of the women (and many of the men) in my family can’t stomach him anymore. On the field and OFF, Eli is it. The Jeter comparison is common and understandable. Not sure why so many fans here dislike him. I hope Daniel Jones can earn this kind of stature one day. But it won’t be easy.
Well, it possible Eli’s new son is named after Charlie Conerly. If he ever plays QB for the Giants, Charlie Conerly’s name will come up a bit more. Which would be pretty cool.
Someone get serious hurt or have a life threatening illness?
Not saying he wouldn’t be under consideration for that honor, but there was a lot of Giants football prior to Eli.
Not saying he wouldn’t be under consideration for that honor, but there was a lot of Giants football prior to Eli.
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That importance to a coaching staff is probably the best the Giants ever had ...
That importance to a coaching staff is probably the best the Giants ever had ...
He, unfortunately, gets screwed by the fact he got hurt in 1990 when he was having a sensational year before the injury against Buffalo...But I refuse to hold that against him.
Without him, there is no Camelot. And that carries significant weight.
The discussion starts at #4.
He, unfortunately, gets screwed by the fact he got hurt in 1990 when he was having a sensational year before the injury against Buffalo...But I refuse to hold that against him.
Without him, there is no Camelot. And that carries significant weight.
I totally agree with all of this. It was very difficult in the pre salary cap era to break into the top tier of teams. There was no such thing as worst to first as is common now.
Phil Simms never had a great wide receiver. He also played in the pre climate change old Giants stadium which was always very windy and cold and still compiled huge numbers.
The most important Giants after the 50's-60's were Simms/Young/Parcells.
But I was thinking the OP meant players.
The Giants has a championship caliber D for a long time actually in those early '80s. However, it wasn't until Simms found himself that this organization became an NFL power. Not recognizing that is a poor understanding of the history here...
He's not in the discussion because people aren't thinking clearly... ;)
The most important Giants were the owners, since they paid for the damn thing. I suppose the Gm's would be second since they made sure that there was someone to step on the field. I might put the groundskeepers third in terms of importance.