would you even want him on the Giants at this point? Would any other team want him? I mean, that helmet issue isn't going away, so that has to be resolved. His feet seem to be fucked up; he has to be able to practice and play.
Knocks on HBO? I have no idea if or when they stop filming that show but it sure seems like this may be the case. I mean most star players barely play in preseason anyway so why not make a spectacle of it to draw an audience. Just a conspiracy theory.
Who would trade for him? If the Raiders called me and asked how I could make an Antonio Brown trade happen, I would literally say I want Brown and a 3rd round pick, and you get nothing.
If he refuses to wear the helmet they should be able withhold his pay. Good luck on Brown getting paid if refuses to wear the helmet. And leaving camp they can and should fine him
Funny part is Brown’s contract isn’t the worst the Raiders have on the books. That would be Gruden’s.
I'd be mad too in his position. By all accounts he complied with the results of the arbitration, and the NFL added a new hurdle
He's allowed to wear that same model helmet. He just can't wear the same one he has been for 10 years. That isn't an unreasonable rule and he isn't the only one impacted.
The only thing I learned from all of this is that a player can switch teams and apparently still demand to wear his old equipment. What's next, getting pissed because he can't play with Ben's balls?
The assumption here is that Brown has a mental illness. He could just be angling to get out of practice or wanting to put attention on himself.
It's sort of like assuming the Khardashian's have mental illness just because they hog the spotlight.
Could be true.
The reality is the nfl has created a model where even mediocre QBs deserve apparently to be paid 30 million plus a year and every other position goes year to year, not protected by rules/fines/injury, at maybe a 6th of that
Painful to watch this train wreck coming - but I can’t get on any non QB for looking out for number 1 at all times until this gets fixed
And so Brown embarked on a search for Schutt AiR Advantage helmets less than 10 years old. He found “a few” that had been made in 2010. Eventually, he found one that had been made in 2014, for a film.
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the NFL found its own 2011 version of the Schutt AiR Advantage, the NFL tested it on Thursday and Friday, and it did not pass. The NFL believes that any/all Schutt AiR Advantage helmets made within the last 10 years would also not pass.
Brown’s camp insists that the Raiders said on Monday night that, if Brown finds a Schutt AiR Advantage made within the last 10 years and if NOCSAE recertifies it, Brown would be permitted to wear the helmet in practices and games.
Bottom line is he doesn't want to wait for the certification process and he thinks he can just grab any model of that helmet and use it. He's picked out one used in a film???
Is someone else bothering you because they are different? Â
perfectly fine to continue to show off to the board that you are fucking useless and now it has degraded to following me from thread to thread?
I'm more than happy to let the rest of the posters see your fucking one-line shenanigans.
At least bring something, anything to the table. How many other people besides dep, arc and myself are you going to stalk like a mangy puppy?
He has this strange need to provide a daily temperature check of other posters' psyches. His posting almost never has anything to do with the topic - but instead, he goes from thread to thread evaluating how everyone is responding or pointing out that in his mind, posters are handling themselves in some sort of disagreeable manner.
Strange behavior indeed. Not really sure what the endgame is. I guess he's on a mission to fix the "self-concept issue" BBI has one poster at a time.
independently subjected the model line to a test. They moved the goalpost.
How is independently testing the helmet moving the goalpost? Who does the safety test is irrelevant. The helmet either meets the required standards or it does not.
In any event - it's not my place to speculate on AB's mental state, as I'm not anywhere near close enough to him to really have any idea.
But his behavior has been incredibly distracting and it's just one thing after another. The guy has yet to play a single snap in a Raiders uniform and yet, he's been a story throughout almost all of camp thus far for all the wrong reasons.
Players like this are exhausting. I imagine the Raiders are already getting pretty tired of it based on Mayock's comments.
He's a phenomenal talent... but is all of this nonsense worth it?
this whole quick to label everyone mentally ill is a bizarre phenomenon. His an attention whore asshole, has been for years. He also had a legit gripe and isn’t happy with the result.
as much as possible. For players who stay fit and don't need to get in shape, and for some who just don't want to be bothered with the extra work, it's not uncommon to try and skip camp.
as much as possible. For players who stay fit and don't need to get in shape, and for some who just don't want to be bothered with the extra work, it's not uncommon to try and skip camp.
I think all signs point to this.
Someone asked Rosenhaus why this was suddenly an issue with Brown because the NFL declared the helmet outdated over a year ago. Rosenhaus said they - I guess Team Brown - have been working with all parties involved for the last six months.
He is back at practice today after Mayock's call out.
I know there is probably more going on behind the scenes that we are not privy too, but the conspiracy theorist in me says this has something to do with Hard Knocks and getting people to watch the show.
I know...I know...that is absurd to think about, but what a weird situation with most of it being played out in the media.
RE: RE: It could just be his way of avoiding training camp Â
as much as possible. For players who stay fit and don't need to get in shape, and for some who just don't want to be bothered with the extra work, it's not uncommon to try and skip camp.
I think all signs point to this.
Someone asked Rosenhaus why this was suddenly an issue with Brown because the NFL declared the helmet outdated over a year ago. Rosenhaus said they - I guess Team Brown - have been working with all parties involved for the last six months.
Sure, Drew. Sure.
it sounded like AB appealed the league's decision and the league kicked it to a safety committee who re-tested the helmet, after re-testing it still failed - but it all took time. I guess.
this whole quick to label everyone mentally ill is a bizarre phenomenon. His an attention whore asshole, has been for years. He also had a legit gripe and isn’t happy with the result.
You use terms like holy shit, or bizarre...I am so glad that you have it all worked out.
I used the term mentally ill because I am concerned about his stability and health and wish him well. You have no special insight either. Even if he is an attention whore asshole, as you say, I would still hope he can get his life figured out.
I wish AB the best working through things.
A mess for sure.
I like our new team first team.
Who would trade for him? If the Raiders called me and asked how I could make an Antonio Brown trade happen, I would literally say I want Brown and a 3rd round pick, and you get nothing.
His value is literally below zero at the moment.
I wish AB the best working through things.
Best post on the subject. It's not funny at this point.
Funny part is Brown’s contract isn’t the worst the Raiders have on the books. That would be Gruden’s.
That's my thought and this helmet thing is just a cover.
If he suddenly shows up week 1 hitting on all cylinders then it probably cements it.
You can’t win with guys like this. Just cut bait and move on. What a lunatic.
Exactly this. You cannot win w guys like this on your team
mayock is really coming across as Matt Millen reincarnated. It’s not fair or true (yet) but he needs Better PR than this
I wish AB the best working through things.
The assumption here is that Brown has a mental illness. He could just be angling to get out of practice or wanting to put attention on himself.
It's sort of like assuming the Khardashian's have mental illness just because they hog the spotlight.
He's allowed to wear that same model helmet. He just can't wear the same one he has been for 10 years. That isn't an unreasonable rule and he isn't the only one impacted.
The only thing I learned from all of this is that a player can switch teams and apparently still demand to wear his old equipment. What's next, getting pissed because he can't play with Ben's balls?
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is not funny. Nor is impairment ...
I wish AB the best working through things.
The assumption here is that Brown has a mental illness. He could just be angling to get out of practice or wanting to put attention on himself.
It's sort of like assuming the Khardashian's have mental illness just because they hog the spotlight.
Could be true.
The reality is the nfl has created a model where even mediocre QBs deserve apparently to be paid 30 million plus a year and every other position goes year to year, not protected by rules/fines/injury, at maybe a 6th of that
Painful to watch this train wreck coming - but I can’t get on any non QB for looking out for number 1 at all times until this gets fixed
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the NFL found its own 2011 version of the Schutt AiR Advantage, the NFL tested it on Thursday and Friday, and it did not pass. The NFL believes that any/all Schutt AiR Advantage helmets made within the last 10 years would also not pass.
Brown’s camp insists that the Raiders said on Monday night that, if Brown finds a Schutt AiR Advantage made within the last 10 years and if NOCSAE recertifies it, Brown would be permitted to wear the helmet in practices and games.
Bottom line is he doesn't want to wait for the certification process and he thinks he can just grab any model of that helmet and use it. He's picked out one used in a film???
I'm more than happy to let the rest of the posters see your fucking one-line shenanigans.
At least bring something, anything to the table. How many other people besides dep, arc and myself are you going to stalk like a mangy puppy?
mayock is really coming across as Matt Millen reincarnated. It’s not fair or true (yet) but he needs Better PR than this
Mayock has very little say in Raiders moves. This is Gruden. So was Martavis. So was trading away Mack.
I'm more than happy to let the rest of the posters see your fucking one-line shenanigans.
At least bring something, anything to the table. How many other people besides dep, arc and myself are you going to stalk like a mangy puppy?
He has this strange need to provide a daily temperature check of other posters' psyches. His posting almost never has anything to do with the topic - but instead, he goes from thread to thread evaluating how everyone is responding or pointing out that in his mind, posters are handling themselves in some sort of disagreeable manner.
Strange behavior indeed. Not really sure what the endgame is. I guess he's on a mission to fix the "self-concept issue" BBI has one poster at a time.
How is independently testing the helmet moving the goalpost? Who does the safety test is irrelevant. The helmet either meets the required standards or it does not.
But his behavior has been incredibly distracting and it's just one thing after another. The guy has yet to play a single snap in a Raiders uniform and yet, he's been a story throughout almost all of camp thus far for all the wrong reasons.
Players like this are exhausting. I imagine the Raiders are already getting pretty tired of it based on Mayock's comments.
He's a phenomenal talent... but is all of this nonsense worth it?
2-If it’s not mentally-related, he could indeed be angling to miss training camp
It’s SIJAS. Self Involved Jack Ass Syndrome.
And a lot of Drew Rosenhaus’s clients seem to have it. TO, Ocho, Plaxico, McCoy, Flowers, etc.
Or he’s just mentally unstable and has been for his entire life. Mental illness is a real thing doesn’t just come from CTE
Take your own advice, hoss. No one needs your armchair mental evaluations here.
You didn't have to be Kreskin to see this wouldn't end well.
There is no question that they moved the goalposts after arbitration, if the facts as reported are accurate.
The Raiders for handcuffing themselves to this guy with that contract.
Brown for handling this helmet situation like a child from the jump.
And the league for showing once again that the only consistent thing about them is what an inconsistent mess they make of anything they touch
I think all signs point to this.
Someone asked Rosenhaus why this was suddenly an issue with Brown because the NFL declared the helmet outdated over a year ago. Rosenhaus said they - I guess Team Brown - have been working with all parties involved for the last six months.
Sure, Drew. Sure.
I know there is probably more going on behind the scenes that we are not privy too, but the conspiracy theorist in me says this has something to do with Hard Knocks and getting people to watch the show.
I know...I know...that is absurd to think about, but what a weird situation with most of it being played out in the media.
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as much as possible. For players who stay fit and don't need to get in shape, and for some who just don't want to be bothered with the extra work, it's not uncommon to try and skip camp.
I think all signs point to this.
Someone asked Rosenhaus why this was suddenly an issue with Brown because the NFL declared the helmet outdated over a year ago. Rosenhaus said they - I guess Team Brown - have been working with all parties involved for the last six months.
Sure, Drew. Sure.
it sounded like AB appealed the league's decision and the league kicked it to a safety committee who re-tested the helmet, after re-testing it still failed - but it all took time. I guess.
You use terms like holy shit, or bizarre...I am so glad that you have it all worked out.
I used the term mentally ill because I am concerned about his stability and health and wish him well. You have no special insight either. Even if he is an attention whore asshole, as you say, I would still hope he can get his life figured out.
I bet if he didn't make that stupid mistake and could practice he wouldn't be spending so much effort on this.
Either way Oakland has to be having some buyers remorse.