I like Pat Shumur, but he needs to be stronger in press conferences. You can't Eli Manning your way through press conferences as head coach, especially in NY, unless you are Bill Bellichik and what you are doing is generally unquestionable.
He could have squashed this whole narrative that ownership is calling the shots at starting QB, by being very clear it is his decision to make after he went into his you heard it from John comment. I hope their media plan for the transition is much better than what it has been, but I'm not too hopeful this isn't a clusterfuck based on what I've seen from ownership and FO.
The proof will always be on the field. If he wins, he will be fine.
He's articulate and brings some dry humor to it all. It's good he doesn't take those blowhards too seriously since they're mostly a joke.
He could have squashed this whole narrative that ownership is calling the shots at starting QB...
What narrative? By click-baiters? There is no real narrative..
The inclination is to say 'well, there's this coach in NE...', but you have to wonder - if he didn't have those rings, would he last long with that demeanor?
The inclination is to say 'well, there's this coach in NE...', but you have to wonder - if he didn't have those rings, would he last long with that demeanor?
No, and I'd be curious to see his progression with the media over time. As the wins racked up his clear disdain for the media has become more and more apparent. You can do that when you have clout.
I think that is why it is important to have a guy like Betcher around.
JFC.
JFC.
They don't. But our very own GM does a tremendous job playing the media, irregardless of the mouth breathers that get mad that he "lied".
I'm not going to pay a lot for this muffler!
Some "know" ownership is calling the shots, even though they say they do not.
Some say Jones should be starting now, even though he is not better than Manning.
Some "Know" Jones is starting game 1 of 2020, even though that could change with a successful year by Manning.
Some think they "know" everything and they are all sure management is lying.
The fact is, no-one talks in absolutes at a press conference. Only the fans interpretations.
It should be quite simple, as long as Manning is better than Jones, he should start. Even if it is 2 months or 2 years. The "Move on" crowd can sit and make up any crap they want. If/when Jones is ready, he should start. ALL "hypothetical s" and "What ifs" included.
Sir Sominex fo' sho' (move over Richard Neer...)
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head coaches and GMs in the league tell the press what exactly is going on? Give me a break. They all dance around the questions with non-answers. All the injuries "are coming along." All the rookies are "making progress." All the game decisions are "still being worked on."
JFC.
They don't. But our very own GM does a tremendous job playing the media, irregardless of the mouth breathers that get mad that he "lied".
While I agree with you, look at how those "mouthbreathers" have absolutely skewered Gettleman at every turn for his demeanor.
You can't win. If you are Shurmur, you are too boring. If you are gettleman, you are loud and abrasive. If you talk about pretzels and hot dogs, you get pummelled. If you talk about a player being touched by God, you get lambasted. If you say something about a bunch of nerds, it means you have an abacus and shun analytics.
I'm more convinced that no matter the demeanor of the person in front of the mic, many BBI'ers will trip over themselves to be critical. For a variety of fucking reasons.
For Instance: Mara says in a perfect world Manning starts all year and Jones sits and never plays - Translation: This is correct, in a perfect world Manning starts Game1 plays perfect, we go undefeated, and win the Super Bowl.
When they asked the coach - John owns the team, right? We’re on the same page. There is really not much more to say. I think I’ve been saying it all along. I just get a sense once in a while that when I answer those questions nobody believes me. Well you heard it from the owner."
TRANSLATION: We both think it best for us to give Eli a shot to be successful and give Daniel time to watch, if shit hits the fan, we pull the plug on Eli and put Daniel in.
The only ones I watch are the post game HC pressers. Usually that is your best bet to get anything useful.
Wrong
Then Payton Manning becomes HC while BBI, and Eli haters go Hillary after losing the election crazy ...
This. And it’s hysterical that fans that read every single quote anyone makes and freaks out about it, breaks it down, dissects it continue to pass off the blame to the media. Don’t get me wrong, the media sucks. But the media didn’t start this thread.
When YOU stop caring about the cat and mouse between organizations and the media, you will be better off for it. The media tries to create drama. It’s their job. And the fans buy into it hook, line and sinker. Stop being sheep and letting the damn media decide your feelings. Man the fuck up.
If you're treading water as a coach and the media starts pounding on you, ownership and management sees it. They are running a business and aren't immune to the influence of bad impressions.
And the players see it too. If you're constantly throwing guys under the bus, it's known. Players these days are a brand (as annoying as that maybe) and they've got teams tracking every mention of them. Getting shit on by a coach is different these days.
A coach should be nice, earnest, and patient with the media. You don't have to divulge everything, but respect the guys across the podium, even when they are dips. It literally costs nothing, and likely will help in keeping a job.
The proof will always be on the field. If he wins, he will be fine.
Wow! What an amazing concept.
You guys actually listen to these press conferences ??
If not a single word was uttered out of giants camp the last two years, something tells me the picture the giants are painting would be easier for people to see. But those damn presses and interviews. People are so confused because.... I’m not sure why, but they are.