Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Brief moment of optimism as Sam Beal (hamstring) stretched with the team but right to the side with the trainers after. Antonio Hamilton (groin) also on the side. Don’t see Golden Tate (concussion), Michael Thomas (NLFPA duties, presumably) and George Asafo-Adjei (concussion).
Because that's what is going to happen with Cleveland.
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Brief moment of optimism as Sam Beal (hamstring) stretched with the team but right to the side with the trainers after. Antonio Hamilton (groin) also on the side. Don’t see Golden Tate (concussion), Michael Thomas (NLFPA duties, presumably) and George Asafo-Adjei (concussion).
Think GAA is going to be IRed in 2019,using it as a learning season for him!
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - Fowler fingertip grab of a L post from Eli for 50 yds....Next snap, White a L out from Eli for 20 inside sideline
He says "history shows that" and yet his article contains not single link to anything that backs up his claim about QBs with losing records in college being bad QBs in the NFL.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - Slayton catching everything thrown his way today.....and looking very fluid as he did before the hammy
He says "history shows that" and yet his article contains not single link to anything that backs up his claim about QBs with losing records in college being bad QBs in the NFL.
How he has a job is beyond me.
Yes he is. A little google search. 2 QBs with losing records in College:
1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Jared Goff
Both Recent Top 10 Picks. Yet douchebag Ranaan and Baker act like this hasn't happened since John Elway and QBs can't win in the NFL. What a bunch of FUCKING CLOWNS!
So, I didn't know much about DJ before the draft, and I still don't know as much as most of you. That said, after I saw what Raanan posted I looked up DJ's stats and Dukes records.
So, as a redshirt freshman, the team only won 4 games, but Jones had a pretty good season, statistically. The next (and final) two seasons, he starts, Duke has winning records both seasons and Jones put up very nice stats. With, from all accounts, little in the way of a supporting cast. In a tough (the toughest?) conference.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - Slayton catching everything thrown his way today.....and looking very fluid as he did before the hammy
He says "history shows that" and yet his article contains not single link to anything that backs up his claim about QBs with losing records in college being bad QBs in the NFL.
How he has a job is beyond me.
Yes he is. A little google search. 2 QBs with losing records in College:
1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Jared Goff
Both Recent Top 10 Picks. Yet douchebag Ranaan and Baker act like this hasn't happened since John Elway and QBs can't win in the NFL. What a bunch of FUCKING CLOWNS!
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - Slayton catching everything thrown his way today.....and looking very fluid as he did before the hammy
Best news all day!
Especially given that his hands were one of the biggest knocks on Slayton coming out of Auburn. Very good news.
Dan Salomone
@NYGsalomone
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Coach Shurmur said they’re just going to have to see where Sam Beal is when it comes to roster placement. “He’s getting better everyday.”
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Shurmur on the comments from Cleveland: “Quite frankly, on our list of issues of the day, it really doesn’t matter what Odell or Baker say.”
2 QBs with losing records in College:
1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Jared Goff
Might as well throw in Johnny Unitas.
And Phil Simms.
More to the point, this "winning QBs" thing seems like a case of correlation rather than causation. The strongest NCAA programs generally get the top recruits, so there's a self-reinforcing cycle of winning teams getting good QBs, who help the teams continue to win.
Meanwhile, as noted above, only one QB who has won an FBS championship in the title-game era has done much of anything in the NFL.
Paul Schwartz
@NYPost_Schwartz
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More Shurmur on Baker Mayfield’s rip of Daniel Jones: “Don’t confuse calm and composed for a guy who is competitive and a winner.”
Meanwhile, as noted above, only one QB who has won an FBS championship in the past twenty years of the title-game era has done much of anything in the NFL.
Dan Salomone
@NYGsalomone
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Coach Shurmur said they’re just going to have to see where Sam Beal is when it comes to roster placement. “He’s getting better everyday.”
What does that even mean? They invested a third round pick into him. He has to make the team.
Dan Salomone
@NYGsalomone
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Coach Shurmur said they’re just going to have to see where Sam Beal is when it comes to roster placement. “He’s getting better everyday.”
What does that even mean? They invested a third round pick into him. He has to make the team.
Fuck that. If he is not cutting it, move on and give the spot to someone who is.
He says "history shows that" and yet his article contains not single link to anything that backs up his claim about QBs with losing records in college being bad QBs in the NFL.
How he has a job is beyond me.
Yes he is. A little google search. 2 QBs with losing records in College:
1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Jared Goff
Both Recent Top 10 Picks. Yet douchebag Ranaan and Baker act like this hasn't happened since John Elway and QBs can't win in the NFL. What a bunch of FUCKING CLOWNS!
And all, the great winning QBs from big time programs Leinhart, Young, Sanchez, Mccoy...
Dan Salomone
@NYGsalomone
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Coach Shurmur said they’re just going to have to see where Sam Beal is when it comes to roster placement. “He’s getting better everyday.”
What does that even mean? They invested a third round pick into him. He has to make the team.
Fuck that. If he is not cutting it, move on and give the spot to someone who is.
It's not a matter of him cutting it. They have no idea what they have in him and they spent a third round pick to get him. He has to make the team.
Dan Salomone
@NYGsalomone
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Coach Shurmur said they’re just going to have to see where Sam Beal is when it comes to roster placement. “He’s getting better everyday.”
What does that even mean? They invested a third round pick into him. He has to make the team.
Fuck that. If he is not cutting it, move on and give the spot to someone who is.
It's not a matter of him cutting it. They have no idea what they have in him and they spent a third round pick to get him. He has to make the team.
Dan Salomone
@NYGsalomone
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Coach Shurmur said they’re just going to have to see where Sam Beal is when it comes to roster placement. “He’s getting better everyday.”
What does that even mean? They invested a third round pick into him. He has to make the team.
Fuck that. If he is not cutting it, move on and give the spot to someone who is.
It's not a matter of him cutting it. They have no idea what they have in him and they spent a third round pick to get him. He has to make the team.
IR-DRF?
That may be the way they go, but to outright cut him? That's simply unacceptable. And look, I have no idea how good Beal can be or not. I knew nothing about him when we took in the Supp. Draft, but you don't cut a guy you invested a third rounder in.
1) Jones lost more games than he won in college.
2) Therefore, he is a loser.
3) It doesn't matter that he had no OL and no wr and an overall really awful team.
4) Winners make really awful teams win.
Dan Salomone
@NYGsalomone
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Coach Shurmur said they’re just going to have to see where Sam Beal is when it comes to roster placement. “He’s getting better everyday.”
What does that even mean? They invested a third round pick into him. He has to make the team.
Fuck that. If he is not cutting it, move on and give the spot to someone who is.
This was my concern yesterday, when I made the similar comment about their dilemma in what to do with him. He hasn't played in pre-season the last two years. There has to be a point where he shows what he can do in a game against live comp. I suppose they could keep him on the 53, but he can't stay healthy and he won't get in quality practice time during the season. I don't think they'll cut him after investing a 3rd round pick and can't expose him to waivets or the PS either.
1) Jones lost more games than he won in college.
2) Therefore, he is a loser.
3) It doesn't matter that he had no OL and no wr and an overall really awful team.
4) Winners make really awful teams win.
Baker is less that half-baked, it is clear.
I think there's too much of an assumption that Mayfield's "winner" comments were directly tied to his "Couldn't believe the Giants took Jones" comment. It may not have been. They weren't part of the same question, and I feel like he was mostly referring to how some good QBs fall through the cracks because of over-analysis despite showing the less-quantifiable traits of being a winner.
I think he's basically referring to himself there, and how he was a walk-on and doubted all of his career with the notable exception of the Browns at draft time.
2 QBs with losing records in College:
1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Jared Goff
Might as well throw in Johnny Unitas.
And Phil Simms.
More to the point, this "winning QBs" thing seems like a case of correlation rather than causation. The strongest NCAA programs generally get the top recruits, so there's a self-reinforcing cycle of winning teams getting good QBs, who help the teams continue to win.
Meanwhile, as noted above, only one QB who has won an FBS championship in the title-game era has done much of anything in the NFL.
Who was the QB from Miami that won the Heisman and never even sniffed success..think he might have been with Carolina.
Mayfield is a Grade A douche........won't be long before someone takes a swing at him.
I don't give a damn about Baker Mayfield or Odell Beckham, Jr.... Â
Or the Goddamned Cleveland Browns. I wish our own beat writers felt the same way.
The OBJ and Baker threads are the two most active threads today. Cant fault the media for latching on to what is obviously going to be a hot story.
Good take. It is all of our collective fault. We all complain about the media but we train them what to write by what we choose to comment on and view. Is what it is.
RE: RE: I don't give a damn about Baker Mayfield or Odell Beckham, Jr.... Â
Or the Goddamned Cleveland Browns. I wish our own beat writers felt the same way.
The OBJ and Baker threads are the two most active threads today. Cant fault the media for latching on to what is obviously going to be a hot story.
Good take. It is all of our collective fault. We all complain about the media but we train them what to write by what we choose to comment on and view. Is what it is.
That makes the beats essentially a bunch of trolls. They don't have to "report" anything useful or insightful...they just have to print what's most likely to get a response (and the more emotional the response, the better).
1) Jones lost more games than he won in college.
2) Therefore, he is a loser.
3) It doesn't matter that he had no OL and no wr and an overall really awful team.
4) Winners make really awful teams win.
Baker is less that half-baked, it is clear.
(Ahem) Some guy named Phil Simms went 2-6-1 his senior year in college, had an overall 48.6 completion percentage and never played in a bowl game. How did that work out? Mayfield is a jerk.
...just like his newly acquired WR. Why on earth would he want to piss on Daniel Jones is way beyond my comprehension!?!
Here's a novel idea for Baker Mayfield:
Why not show the NFL you can lead the Browns back to the playoffs rather than disrespecting other NFL players.
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp - Beal and AHamilton with trainers on side
@DDuggan21
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Brief moment of optimism as Sam Beal (hamstring) stretched with the team but right to the side with the trainers after. Antonio Hamilton (groin) also on the side. Don’t see Golden Tate (concussion), Michael Thomas (NLFPA duties, presumably) and George Asafo-Adjei (concussion).
@DDuggan21
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Light practice today: No pads and 1’s vs. scout team. Had two physical practices in the heat before today.
Make it stop. Please! https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/08/20/cleveland-browns-odell-beckham-jr-jarvis-landry-baker-mayfield-john-dorsey-freddie-kitchens?utm_campaign=themmqb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com …
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@DDuggan21
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Brief moment of optimism as Sam Beal (hamstring) stretched with the team but right to the side with the trainers after. Antonio Hamilton (groin) also on the side. Don’t see Golden Tate (concussion), Michael Thomas (NLFPA duties, presumably) and George Asafo-Adjei (concussion).
Think GAA is going to be IRed in 2019,using it as a learning season for him!
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - Jones perfect 40 yd bomb down L sideline to Slayton
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - Remember, this is two days out from Bengals game, so it is a carded practice
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - SShepard nice fingertip.grab on R rollout from Lauletta
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - Fowler fingertip grab of a L post from Eli for 50 yds....Next snap, White a L out from Eli for 20 inside sideline
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - Tanney connects with a dart to Wesley on a R crossing route
How he has a job is beyond me.
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - Slayton catching everything thrown his way today.....and looking very fluid as he did before the hammy
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - Jones perfect 40 yd bomb down L sideline to Slayton
Beautiful.
How he has a job is beyond me.
Yes he is. A little google search. 2 QBs with losing records in College:
1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Jared Goff
Both Recent Top 10 Picks. Yet douchebag Ranaan and Baker act like this hasn't happened since John Elway and QBs can't win in the NFL. What a bunch of FUCKING CLOWNS!
So, as a redshirt freshman, the team only won 4 games, but Jones had a pretty good season, statistically. The next (and final) two seasons, he starts, Duke has winning records both seasons and Jones put up very nice stats. With, from all accounts, little in the way of a supporting cast. In a tough (the toughest?) conference.
WTF, then? How is he a losing college QB if his team won two of the three seasons he started and had good numbers?
Daniel Jones Duke by the numbers - ( New Window )
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - Slayton catching everything thrown his way today.....and looking very fluid as he did before the hammy
Best news all day!
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 red zone - Jones hits Simonson inside back line on R cross for a TD
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 red zone - Lauletta TD on a tightrope to Conrad on R seam
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 Red Zone - Jones for TD to Jones in back R corner
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 red zone - Lauletta TD on a dart to Scott
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He says "history shows that" and yet his article contains not single link to anything that backs up his claim about QBs with losing records in college being bad QBs in the NFL.
How he has a job is beyond me.
Yes he is. A little google search. 2 QBs with losing records in College:
1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Jared Goff
Both Recent Top 10 Picks. Yet douchebag Ranaan and Baker act like this hasn't happened since John Elway and QBs can't win in the NFL. What a bunch of FUCKING CLOWNS!
Might as well throw in Johnny Unitas.
Might as well throw in Johnny Unitas.
Why? You don't need to go past 3 years.
Jay Cutler went 11-34 in his 4 years as a starter at Vandy.
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp 11 on 11 - Slayton catching everything thrown his way today.....and looking very fluid as he did before the hammy
Best news all day!
Especially given that his hands were one of the biggest knocks on Slayton coming out of Auburn. Very good news.
@NYGsalomone
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Coach Shurmur said they’re just going to have to see where Sam Beal is when it comes to roster placement. “He’s getting better everyday.”
@giantswfan
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#GiantsCamp - Beal getting better...want to see him play as roster decisions are coming
@giantswfan
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#Giants #Shumur - Big George still in concussion protocol
Dan Salomone
@NYGsalomone
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Shurmur says WR Darius Slayton is getting really, really close but “we’ll see” if he plays Thursday night.
@DDuggan21
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Shurmur on the comments from Cleveland: “Quite frankly, on our list of issues of the day, it really doesn’t matter what Odell or Baker say.”
1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Jared Goff
Might as well throw in Johnny Unitas.
And Phil Simms.
More to the point, this "winning QBs" thing seems like a case of correlation rather than causation. The strongest NCAA programs generally get the top recruits, so there's a self-reinforcing cycle of winning teams getting good QBs, who help the teams continue to win.
Meanwhile, as noted above, only one QB who has won an FBS championship in the title-game era has done much of anything in the NFL.
@NYPost_Schwartz
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More Shurmur on Baker Mayfield’s rip of Daniel Jones: “Don’t confuse calm and composed for a guy who is competitive and a winner.”
@NYGsalomone
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Coach Shurmur said they’re just going to have to see where Sam Beal is when it comes to roster placement. “He’s getting better everyday.”
What does that even mean? They invested a third round pick into him. He has to make the team.
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Dan Salomone
@NYGsalomone
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Coach Shurmur said they’re just going to have to see where Sam Beal is when it comes to roster placement. “He’s getting better everyday.”
What does that even mean? They invested a third round pick into him. He has to make the team.
Fuck that. If he is not cutting it, move on and give the spot to someone who is.
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He says "history shows that" and yet his article contains not single link to anything that backs up his claim about QBs with losing records in college being bad QBs in the NFL.
How he has a job is beyond me.
Yes he is. A little google search. 2 QBs with losing records in College:
1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Jared Goff
Both Recent Top 10 Picks. Yet douchebag Ranaan and Baker act like this hasn't happened since John Elway and QBs can't win in the NFL. What a bunch of FUCKING CLOWNS!
And all, the great winning QBs from big time programs Leinhart, Young, Sanchez, Mccoy...
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Dan Salomone
@NYGsalomone
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Coach Shurmur said they’re just going to have to see where Sam Beal is when it comes to roster placement. “He’s getting better everyday.”
What does that even mean? They invested a third round pick into him. He has to make the team.
Fuck that. If he is not cutting it, move on and give the spot to someone who is.
It's not a matter of him cutting it. They have no idea what they have in him and they spent a third round pick to get him. He has to make the team.
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Dan Salomone
@NYGsalomone
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Coach Shurmur said they’re just going to have to see where Sam Beal is when it comes to roster placement. “He’s getting better everyday.”
What does that even mean? They invested a third round pick into him. He has to make the team.
Fuck that. If he is not cutting it, move on and give the spot to someone who is.
It's not a matter of him cutting it. They have no idea what they have in him and they spent a third round pick to get him. He has to make the team.
IR-DRF?
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Dan Salomone
@NYGsalomone
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Coach Shurmur said they’re just going to have to see where Sam Beal is when it comes to roster placement. “He’s getting better everyday.”
What does that even mean? They invested a third round pick into him. He has to make the team.
Fuck that. If he is not cutting it, move on and give the spot to someone who is.
It's not a matter of him cutting it. They have no idea what they have in him and they spent a third round pick to get him. He has to make the team.
IR-DRF?
That may be the way they go, but to outright cut him? That's simply unacceptable. And look, I have no idea how good Beal can be or not. I knew nothing about him when we took in the Supp. Draft, but you don't cut a guy you invested a third rounder in.
2) Therefore, he is a loser.
3) It doesn't matter that he had no OL and no wr and an overall really awful team.
4) Winners make really awful teams win.
Baker is less that half-baked, it is clear.
Jordan’s just trying to get people to click on his articles
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Dan Salomone
@NYGsalomone
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Coach Shurmur said they’re just going to have to see where Sam Beal is when it comes to roster placement. “He’s getting better everyday.”
What does that even mean? They invested a third round pick into him. He has to make the team.
Fuck that. If he is not cutting it, move on and give the spot to someone who is.
This was my concern yesterday, when I made the similar comment about their dilemma in what to do with him. He hasn't played in pre-season the last two years. There has to be a point where he shows what he can do in a game against live comp. I suppose they could keep him on the 53, but he can't stay healthy and he won't get in quality practice time during the season. I don't think they'll cut him after investing a 3rd round pick and can't expose him to waivets or the PS either.
2) Therefore, he is a loser.
3) It doesn't matter that he had no OL and no wr and an overall really awful team.
4) Winners make really awful teams win.
Baker is less that half-baked, it is clear.
I think there's too much of an assumption that Mayfield's "winner" comments were directly tied to his "Couldn't believe the Giants took Jones" comment. It may not have been. They weren't part of the same question, and I feel like he was mostly referring to how some good QBs fall through the cracks because of over-analysis despite showing the less-quantifiable traits of being a winner.
I think he's basically referring to himself there, and how he was a walk-on and doubted all of his career with the notable exception of the Browns at draft time.
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2 QBs with losing records in College:
1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Jared Goff
Might as well throw in Johnny Unitas.
And Phil Simms.
More to the point, this "winning QBs" thing seems like a case of correlation rather than causation. The strongest NCAA programs generally get the top recruits, so there's a self-reinforcing cycle of winning teams getting good QBs, who help the teams continue to win.
Meanwhile, as noted above, only one QB who has won an FBS championship in the title-game era has done much of anything in the NFL.
Who was the QB from Miami that won the Heisman and never even sniffed success..think he might have been with Carolina.
Mayfield is a Grade A douche........won't be long before someone takes a swing at him.
They need the clicks.
They are "king of crap" - they twat/write whatever gets them a click.
Doesn't get clicks tho.
The OBJ and Baker threads are the two most active threads today. Cant fault the media for latching on to what is obviously going to be a hot story.
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Or the Goddamned Cleveland Browns. I wish our own beat writers felt the same way.
The OBJ and Baker threads are the two most active threads today. Cant fault the media for latching on to what is obviously going to be a hot story.
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Or the Goddamned Cleveland Browns. I wish our own beat writers felt the same way.
The OBJ and Baker threads are the two most active threads today. Cant fault the media for latching on to what is obviously going to be a hot story.
I don't know if that's a bigger indictment of them or us.
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Or the Goddamned Cleveland Browns. I wish our own beat writers felt the same way.
The OBJ and Baker threads are the two most active threads today. Cant fault the media for latching on to what is obviously going to be a hot story.
Good take. It is all of our collective fault. We all complain about the media but we train them what to write by what we choose to comment on and view. Is what it is.
That makes the beats essentially a bunch of trolls. They don't have to "report" anything useful or insightful...they just have to print what's most likely to get a response (and the more emotional the response, the better).
2) Therefore, he is a loser.
3) It doesn't matter that he had no OL and no wr and an overall really awful team.
4) Winners make really awful teams win.
Baker is less that half-baked, it is clear.
(Ahem) Some guy named Phil Simms went 2-6-1 his senior year in college, had an overall 48.6 completion percentage and never played in a bowl game. How did that work out? Mayfield is a jerk.
I know..really a waste of time. Drama queens