“I cannot believe the Giants took Daniel Jones. Blows my mind…Some people overthink it [what makes a good quarterback]. That’s where they go wrong. They forget you’ve gotta win.”
Managing to earn a level of dislike reserved for back tk back SB winners of questionable character, and theyre doing it coming off a 7 win season. Golf clab to you, Sir!
to hope they implode, once diversity strikes that team. Fingers crossed.
+1 Definitely will happen - Remember when (I think it was Vince Young?) declared the Eagles the "Dream Team"? Too many egos spoil the soup. The Browns seem to have a lot of unhealthy egos. We will see.
RE: Says the guy who payed for Oklahoma, loaded with talent Â
Put Mayfield on Duke and lets see what he would be saying then
Baker Mayfield turned down scholarships to walk on at Texas Tech. He didn’t go the lesser talented team so he could start and get a scholarship. He went and beat out players who were offered scholarships and then he transferred to Oklahoma, where he was a walk on again. He then went there and beat out guys to get the job too.
Weird how a Giants fan visits a thread like this and their first instinct is to find any comment they can respond to where they can go to bat for Mayfield, but.. to each their own.
There are tons of IG stories and photos of them from March. I wonder how this affects their relationship.
It won't at all. Giants defensive players won't take shots at him for this. Giants players will still be hugging him and laughing with him and taking pictures with him on the field after the next Giants/Browns game. Especially Shepard, who will always share the Sooner link with Mayfield. It seems to me that NFL players feel more loyalty to their fellow college alums than they do their NFL teammates.
NFL fans want their team's players to hate other teams' players. But that rarely happens the way it used to in decades past, for a variety of reasons. If you want to see that, you're better off following a big NCAA program.
This is who Baker Mayfield was, is, and will continue to be -- a hyper-alpha douche. I thought his beer shotgunning at the Indians game recently was a pretty immature look. But I'm not a 20-something anymore, so what do I know? It would be nice to watch Mayfield get served some humble pie sometime. But he probably won't.
who openly call out Giants fans for having a problem obsessing about Cleveland as they’ve shown affection for Mayfield and Beckham and have waxed poetic about how Cleveland is doing all the right things while the Giants are in the toilet.
I see a few of those are noticeably absent from this conversation.
The article makes it sound like he was responding to an ESPN scroll that flashed across the screen while they were preparing for the interview.
By itself, "I can't believe the Giants drafted Daniel Jones, blows my mind" isn't really that controversial or antagonistic an opinion. You just don't often hear other athletes opine like that.
Shouldn't the Brown be concerned with the Ravens Â
or Steelers? Why doesn't Mayfield throw some shade over at Lamar Jackson, like I can't believe the Ravens traded Flacco, there is no way Jackson is going to last a full season the way he plays.
I know that OBJ is probably the puppeteer behind the scenes for all this Browns talk about the Giants, but how long ago was this interview? Move on already. Focus on the Titans, maybe talk some smack about Mariota and how he you are the better Heisman QB in the NFL.
It's also easy to take shots at guys like Eli and Jones because you know they aren't going to respond to the nonsense.
A majority of BBI were saying way worse things about Daniel Jones and the pick when we took him...the draft party at the stadium filled with Giants fan booed. Video meltdowns were posted all over twitter and on this site.
Obviously I hope Daniel Jones makes Mayfield (and most of BBI) look foolish. However, he was stating how he was shocked that Daniel Jones was drafted at 6. There are a lot of worse things people say. I for one like that a rivalry may be born out of this. Let him speak his mind. Makes the NFL more interesting. Makes it that much more fun when The Giants have a better record and Jones becomes a pro bowler.
Is Baker Mayfield even a good quarterback? He's been in the league a minute. I was stunned when the Browns took Mayfield over Darnold.
I think Mayfield and Darnold are going to be in this league for years and years, and are both going to excel.
But as for Baker's fat mouth, I dunno what to make of it. Seems to have come out of left field. Why the FOOK does he give a shit about either the Giants in general or Daniel Jones in particular? It's not that the Giants passed on Baker Mayfield or selected DJ over him. So, what the FOOK gives?
A majority of BBI were saying way worse things about Daniel Jones and the pick when we took him...the draft party at the stadium filled with Giants fan booed. Video meltdowns were posted all over twitter and on this site.
Obviously I hope Daniel Jones makes Mayfield (and most of BBI) look foolish. However, he was stating how he was shocked that Daniel Jones was drafted at 6. There are a lot of worse things people say. I for one like that a rivalry may be born out of this. Let him speak his mind. Makes the NFL more interesting. Makes it that much more fun when The Giants have a better record and Jones becomes a pro bowler.
The "outrage" is there is an unspoken rule - especially among NFL quarterbacks - that you don't rip each other in public.
A majority of BBI were saying way worse things about Daniel Jones and the pick when we took him...the draft party at the stadium filled with Giants fan booed. Video meltdowns were posted all over twitter and on this site.
Obviously I hope Daniel Jones makes Mayfield (and most of BBI) look foolish. However, he was stating how he was shocked that Daniel Jones was drafted at 6. There are a lot of worse things people say. I for one like that a rivalry may be born out of this. Let him speak his mind. Makes the NFL more interesting. Makes it that much more fun when The Giants have a better record and Jones becomes a pro bowler.
Your analogy is poor. What fans say and what another starting NFL QB say are much different things.
A majority of BBI were saying way worse things about Daniel Jones and the pick when we took him...the draft party at the stadium filled with Giants fan booed. Video meltdowns were posted all over twitter and on this site.
Obviously I hope Daniel Jones makes Mayfield (and most of BBI) look foolish. However, he was stating how he was shocked that Daniel Jones was drafted at 6. There are a lot of worse things people say. I for one like that a rivalry may be born out of this. Let him speak his mind. Makes the NFL more interesting. Makes it that much more fun when The Giants have a better record and Jones becomes a pro bowler.
Let's put the shoe on the other foot and have Daniel Jones say that he couldn't believe the Redskins took Haskins.
You don't think people would be ripping him until the cows come home??
Actually he doesn’t. He didn’t start the first 2 games of the year at 0-2.
His record is 7-6-1 as starter.
You are incorrect, he came in as relief in game 3. The Browns were 0-1-1 in the 1st 2 games. Technically as a starter he is 6-7 as game 3 was a win in relief on Tyrod Taylor. Either way he is either 7-7 or 6-7 so not a winner. He had a chance to be a winner in the last game but threw an INT to end a chance for a winning season.
Bottom line his attitude will be a problem. He is a talented player but talent only gets you so far. I'm sure his mouth will get him in trouble at some point. Just a guy you dont want to root for. Hopefully kids follow more of Saquan Barkley than Baker Mayfield.
The media hype has been great. Mayfield believes his own propaganda. Mayfield, Landry, OBJ. Looks like the Browns will have a new coach next year again.
An expert at finding quarterbacks or evaluating quarterbacks. The two skill sets are completely unrelated just ask John Elway.
This is the one thing that bugs me about ex quarterbacks making draft assessments on college QBs...there is a hell of a lot more that goes into evaluating prospects.
It's ridiculous that he is criticizing the Giants for taking Jones because of his college record. Jones has not played with a single player that was drafted or is expected to be drafted.
Mayfield on the other hand has played with 18 draft picks, 19 if you count Kyler Murray.
PFT is speculating that Mayfield made these remarks with the belief that it was off the record.
Near our booth, a SportsCenter segment about the New York Giants catches Mayfield's eye. “I cannot believe the Giants took Daniel Jones,” Mayfield says, about New York's much-maligned draft-day decision to spend the sixth pick on the quarterback from Duke (whose college record was a measly 17–19). “Blows my mind.”
I tell Mayfield that I'm mystified that so many supposedly expert quarterback scouts seem unable to predict what makes a good NFL quarterback.
“Some people overthink it,” Mayfield says. “That's where people go wrong. They forget you've gotta win.”
Really couldn’t care less what Mayfield thinks of Jones. Â
As for his criterion for judging QB talent, what do the following players have in common?
Josh Heupel
Ken Dorsey
Craig Krenzel
Matt Mauck
Matt Leinert
Vince Young
Chris Leak
Matt Flynn
Tim Tebow
Greg McElroy
A.J McCarron
Cardale Jones
Jake Coker
OK- I skipped Newton and Winston, but even they haven’t fully met expectations, especially Winston.
Fans respected him because he played well and has a fiery attitude but that will all change if he begins bashing other players around the league.
I am very curious to see how this all plays out when Mayfield finally deals with some adversity. He doesn't appear to be the type to handle criticism well.
PFT is speculating that Mayfield made these remarks with the belief that it was off the record.
This might be true. I have little trust in the press, across all segments - politics, sports, entertainment, etc.
And if it true, Mayfield should do the right thing and reach out to Jones and explain.
And say what? “Hey man, I didn’t mean to talk shit and disrespect you behind your back... ya know that wasn’t suppose to happen. My bad dude. You’re gonna be great!!”
The Giants don't get to play these douchebags this year. Too bad the old days are gone of taking someone's head off as they go across the middle or planting the QB into the ground ala LT style. I can name a few players that deserve such treatment....
PFT is speculating that Mayfield made these remarks with the belief that it was off the record.
This might be true. I have little trust in the press, across all segments - politics, sports, entertainment, etc.
And if it true, Mayfield should do the right thing and reach out to Jones and explain.
And say what? “Hey man, I didn’t mean to talk shit and disrespect you behind your back... ya know that wasn’t suppose to happen. My bad dude. You’re gonna be great!!”
No, he meant to do it behind his back. It's the public part that would cause him to reach out.
<checks notes>
Multiple National Championships & Super Bowls.
Lol.
Actually he doesn’t. He didn’t start the first 2 games of the year at 0-2.
His record is 7-6-1 as starter.
meh~
+1 Definitely will happen - Remember when (I think it was Vince Young?) declared the Eagles the "Dream Team"? Too many egos spoil the soup. The Browns seem to have a lot of unhealthy egos. We will see.
Baker Mayfield turned down scholarships to walk on at Texas Tech. He didn’t go the lesser talented team so he could start and get a scholarship. He went and beat out players who were offered scholarships and then he transferred to Oklahoma, where he was a walk on again. He then went there and beat out guys to get the job too.
Weird how a Giants fan visits a thread like this and their first instinct is to find any comment they can respond to where they can go to bat for Mayfield, but.. to each their own.
It won't at all. Giants defensive players won't take shots at him for this. Giants players will still be hugging him and laughing with him and taking pictures with him on the field after the next Giants/Browns game. Especially Shepard, who will always share the Sooner link with Mayfield. It seems to me that NFL players feel more loyalty to their fellow college alums than they do their NFL teammates.
NFL fans want their team's players to hate other teams' players. But that rarely happens the way it used to in decades past, for a variety of reasons. If you want to see that, you're better off following a big NCAA program.
This is who Baker Mayfield was, is, and will continue to be -- a hyper-alpha douche. I thought his beer shotgunning at the Indians game recently was a pretty immature look. But I'm not a 20-something anymore, so what do I know? It would be nice to watch Mayfield get served some humble pie sometime. But he probably won't.
So far, they're okay. I suppose they could add a Chinese or a Mexican guy and then they would fall apart. But, I'm not exactly sure why.
Well played big guy
Its hard to hate guys like Wentz and Prescott
In comment 14536470 Eric from BBI said:
I would suggest they focus on themselves until they win a playoff game or two.
I see a few of those are noticeably absent from this conversation.
The article makes it sound like he was responding to an ESPN scroll that flashed across the screen while they were preparing for the interview.
By itself, "I can't believe the Giants drafted Daniel Jones, blows my mind" isn't really that controversial or antagonistic an opinion. You just don't often hear other athletes opine like that.
I know that OBJ is probably the puppeteer behind the scenes for all this Browns talk about the Giants, but how long ago was this interview? Move on already. Focus on the Titans, maybe talk some smack about Mariota and how he you are the better Heisman QB in the NFL.
It's also easy to take shots at guys like Eli and Jones because you know they aren't going to respond to the nonsense.
Obviously I hope Daniel Jones makes Mayfield (and most of BBI) look foolish. However, he was stating how he was shocked that Daniel Jones was drafted at 6. There are a lot of worse things people say. I for one like that a rivalry may be born out of this. Let him speak his mind. Makes the NFL more interesting. Makes it that much more fun when The Giants have a better record and Jones becomes a pro bowler.
I think Mayfield and Darnold are going to be in this league for years and years, and are both going to excel.
But as for Baker's fat mouth, I dunno what to make of it. Seems to have come out of left field. Why the FOOK does he give a shit about either the Giants in general or Daniel Jones in particular? It's not that the Giants passed on Baker Mayfield or selected DJ over him. So, what the FOOK gives?
Obviously I hope Daniel Jones makes Mayfield (and most of BBI) look foolish. However, he was stating how he was shocked that Daniel Jones was drafted at 6. There are a lot of worse things people say. I for one like that a rivalry may be born out of this. Let him speak his mind. Makes the NFL more interesting. Makes it that much more fun when The Giants have a better record and Jones becomes a pro bowler.
The "outrage" is there is an unspoken rule - especially among NFL quarterbacks - that you don't rip each other in public.
What's to gain from this?
Obviously I hope Daniel Jones makes Mayfield (and most of BBI) look foolish. However, he was stating how he was shocked that Daniel Jones was drafted at 6. There are a lot of worse things people say. I for one like that a rivalry may be born out of this. Let him speak his mind. Makes the NFL more interesting. Makes it that much more fun when The Giants have a better record and Jones becomes a pro bowler.
Your analogy is poor. What fans say and what another starting NFL QB say are much different things.
Obviously I hope Daniel Jones makes Mayfield (and most of BBI) look foolish. However, he was stating how he was shocked that Daniel Jones was drafted at 6. There are a lot of worse things people say. I for one like that a rivalry may be born out of this. Let him speak his mind. Makes the NFL more interesting. Makes it that much more fun when The Giants have a better record and Jones becomes a pro bowler.
Let's put the shoe on the other foot and have Daniel Jones say that he couldn't believe the Redskins took Haskins.
You don't think people would be ripping him until the cows come home??
you don't talk about other player's contracts, pay, which I would think would extend to draft status. He's out of line
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from a QB with a losing record in the pros.
Actually he doesn’t. He didn’t start the first 2 games of the year at 0-2.
His record is 7-6-1 as starter.
You are incorrect, he came in as relief in game 3. The Browns were 0-1-1 in the 1st 2 games. Technically as a starter he is 6-7 as game 3 was a win in relief on Tyrod Taylor. Either way he is either 7-7 or 6-7 so not a winner. He had a chance to be a winner in the last game but threw an INT to end a chance for a winning season.
Bottom line his attitude will be a problem. He is a talented player but talent only gets you so far. I'm sure his mouth will get him in trouble at some point. Just a guy you dont want to root for. Hopefully kids follow more of Saquan Barkley than Baker Mayfield.
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from a QB with a losing record in the pros.
Actually he doesn’t. He didn’t start the first 2 games of the year at 0-2.
His record is 7-6-1 as starter.
Actually, it isn't.
Find another angle.
This is the one thing that bugs me about ex quarterbacks making draft assessments on college QBs...there is a hell of a lot more that goes into evaluating prospects.
But I am not surprised at his comments here on Jones. This guy is a wildcard. He borders on unhinged.
And I agree with someone above who suggested Mayfield is creating a huge bulls-eye on his uniform.
Hey...he has a steak named after him - the Baker Mayfieldsteak - at a steakhouse outside of Cleveland!
Mayfield on the other hand has played with 18 draft picks, 19 if you count Kyler Murray.
PFT is speculating that Mayfield made these remarks with the belief that it was off the record.
Near our booth, a SportsCenter segment about the New York Giants catches Mayfield's eye. “I cannot believe the Giants took Daniel Jones,” Mayfield says, about New York's much-maligned draft-day decision to spend the sixth pick on the quarterback from Duke (whose college record was a measly 17–19). “Blows my mind.”
I tell Mayfield that I'm mystified that so many supposedly expert quarterback scouts seem unable to predict what makes a good NFL quarterback.
“Some people overthink it,” Mayfield says. “That's where people go wrong. They forget you've gotta win.”
Josh Heupel
Ken Dorsey
Craig Krenzel
Matt Mauck
Matt Leinert
Vince Young
Chris Leak
Matt Flynn
Tim Tebow
Greg McElroy
A.J McCarron
Cardale Jones
Jake Coker
OK- I skipped Newton and Winston, but even they haven’t fully met expectations, especially Winston.
I am very curious to see how this all plays out when Mayfield finally deals with some adversity. He doesn't appear to be the type to handle criticism well.
PFT is speculating that Mayfield made these remarks with the belief that it was off the record.
This might be true. I have little trust in the press, across all segments - politics, sports, entertainment, etc.
And if it true, Mayfield should do the right thing and reach out to Jones and explain.
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PFT is speculating that Mayfield made these remarks with the belief that it was off the record.
This might be true. I have little trust in the press, across all segments - politics, sports, entertainment, etc.
And if it true, Mayfield should do the right thing and reach out to Jones and explain.
And say what? “Hey man, I didn’t mean to talk shit and disrespect you behind your back... ya know that wasn’t suppose to happen. My bad dude. You’re gonna be great!!”
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In comment 14536672 Jay on the Island said:
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PFT is speculating that Mayfield made these remarks with the belief that it was off the record.
This might be true. I have little trust in the press, across all segments - politics, sports, entertainment, etc.
And if it true, Mayfield should do the right thing and reach out to Jones and explain.
And say what? “Hey man, I didn’t mean to talk shit and disrespect you behind your back... ya know that wasn’t suppose to happen. My bad dude. You’re gonna be great!!”
No, he meant to do it behind his back. It's the public part that would cause him to reach out.