In fact, it was a terrible business move. The Giants brass gave you a big contract and have to eat a considerable amount of dead money on this years cap by trading you away.
They were willing to do that just to be rid of you. So you are right Odell, it was personal. Maybe if you focused more on being a football player you might still be here.
This may be what dep is referring to. He's a very strange guy Â
“In a situation like his, Beckham says, a star player will often get a chance to discuss his preferred trade destinations. But he was never asked. In fact, he claims to know that the Giants received better offers and still chose to send him to Cleveland, out of spite, hoping to stain his career with the enduring stigma that comes with playing for the Browns.” Link - ( New Window )
"This wasn't no business move," Beckham told Ben Baskin of Sports Illustrated. "This was personal. They thought they'd send me here to die."
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Basking wrote that Beckham "claims to know that the Giants received better offers and still chose to send him to Cleveland, out of spite, hoping to stain his career with the enduring stigma that comes with playing for the Browns."
Please Odell, tell us what team offered something better and exactly what the offer was.
What a fucking clown!! Every comment he makes, makes DG look smarter and smarter for trading his ass.
I freely admit I have a mild, passing interest in what Beckham says, no denial. The extent of my information on his comings and goings are limited to BBI.
I certainly don't seek out news, and definitely don't have enough emotional investment to think he's a raging prick.
He's an entertaining character who used to play for the team, got traded for good value, and is a funny foil.
"This wasn't no business move," Beckham told Ben Baskin of Sports Illustrated. "This was personal. They thought they'd send me here to die."
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Basking wrote that Beckham "claims to know that the Giants received better offers and still chose to send him to Cleveland, out of spite, hoping to stain his career with the enduring stigma that comes with playing for the Browns."
Please Odell, tell us what team offered something better and exactly what the offer was.
What a fucking clown!! Every comment he makes, makes DG look smarter and smarter for trading his ass.
Oddly enough, earlier the article talks about OBJ meeting Landry after the latter was traded to Cleveland and they talked about dreaming to play together. So, why would he have that degree of bitterness if the trade facilitate dhis dreams?
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Got into a fist fight at the 50 yard line - would anyone wanna stop it? Or watch til one gets knocked the fuck out?
Those two fighting would be more of a slap and tickle. Baseball players would brawl more meaningfully than those two.
I wonder what Dorsey thinks of his team’s complete lack of focus this summer? He was handed a fuckload of can’t miss high draft picks by his predecessor and has turned it into maybe a 2 year window before their cap bites them... and their players don’t seem at all interested in focusing on themselves and how they can help their own team finally win a playoff game in over 20 years.
to the city and people of Cleveland. It is clear he sees being traded there as a punishment and can't get past that. If I were a fan of the Browns I think I would be more concerned that he sees our city, town and team as a death sentence.
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to the city and people of Cleveland. It is clear he sees being traded there as a punishment and can't get past that. If I were a fan of the Browns I think I would be more concerned that he sees our city, town and team as a death sentence.
yeah ... how else can you read "hoping to stain his career with the enduring stigma that comes with playing for the Browns"?
The house organ grinders are back playing that house song Â
Is anyone at all curious as to why several of the guys traded are claiming they were screwed or lied to and continue to be vexed about it? Isn't that a little unusual? Or are you all just listening to the house siren song that these people were all malcontents who needed to be dumped so the unicorns and rainbows would come out.
Beckham has a problem with everything, and people like that tend to not realize the common variable in equations is them.
Too bad it turned out this way. After his rookie year there was a bunch of chatter about him getting advice from Lebron and MJ on how handle success -- that clearly didn't work.
I'm surprised Coughlin didn't nip it in the bud, he was typically pretty good with that type of player.
to the city and people of Cleveland. It is clear he sees being traded there as a punishment and can't get past that. If I were a fan of the Browns I think I would be more concerned that he sees our city, town and team as a death sentence.
to the city and people of Cleveland. It is clear he sees being traded there as a punishment and can't get past that. If I were a fan of the Browns I think I would be more concerned that he sees our city, town and team as a death sentence.
I'd agree with him. But they're not. Their arrow was pointing up when last season ended in a big way. At this point, he's just being a baby. No way around it.
to the city and people of Cleveland. It is clear he sees being traded there as a punishment and can't get past that. If I were a fan of the Browns I think I would be more concerned that he sees our city, town and team as a death sentence.
This is actually a great point.
I don't think he is referencing the city, but the complete ineptitude of the Browns.
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Is anyone at all curious as to why several of the guys traded are claiming they were screwed or lied to and continue to be vexed about it? Isn't that a little unusual? Or are you all just listening to the house siren song that these people were all malcontents who needed to be dumped so the unicorns and rainbows would come out.
What several guys are you referring to? Who has claimed they were screwed with or lied to?
OBJ is the only guy we traded who’s talking (not a peep from Vernon), and even he’s never said he was screwed with or lied to, his gripe is the Giants didn’t throw rose petals at his feet on the way out the door.
Landon wasn’t traded, he left in free agency, and his gripe has been a perceived lack of respect when the Giants didn’t even try to bring him back.
2 immediate starters and 1 eventual (hopefully) starter for that me-first asshole who's most likely going to miss at least a quarter of the season? Yes please. Thank you very much.
Needs therapy badly. This is an unhealthy obsession and an inability to play the cards you're dealt. He has the QB he wanted and he's playing with his best friend, that sounds like maybe DG did him a favor by sending him there. His take on this is 100% backwards.
I actually didn't need to click anything - I got a B/R alert on my phone because this fell under "Giants news" for them - which is what I subscribe to as far as football goes along with other general breaking news. I don't subscribe to Browns news or Beckham.
So, I'm guessing for most of us - we didn't really need to actively seek this out. I don't follow him on Twitter, I don't follow him on Instagram and I don't look up anything he does... but I still saw this anyway.
And all the people who point this out are the same ones opening these threads. So, we can play the whole "you care! No YOU care!" game all day long... but if he's going to speak directly about NYG or the trade, I think most people would be at least mildly curious to know what was said.
Is anyone at all curious as to why several of the guys traded are claiming they were screwed or lied to and continue to be vexed about it? Isn't that a little unusual? Or are you all just listening to the house siren song that these people were all malcontents who needed to be dumped so the unicorns and rainbows would come out.
Beckham isn't claiming he was lied to. His issue, apparently from his quote, is that he was entitled to dictate his next location in trade and that did not happen.
to the city and people of Cleveland. It is clear he sees being traded there as a punishment and can't get past that. If I were a fan of the Browns I think I would be more concerned that he sees our city, town and team as a death sentence.
This is actually a great point.
They will eventually run with this story in Cleveland. Wait until he has to start answering those questions. Get your popcorn ready is so overused but it is so appropriate. He will not be worth his contract, this will all end in a shit storm. "Can you explain what you meant when you talked about the stigma of being a Cleveland Brown and can you describe what you were thinking when you said death sentence" lol
Love it more every second now. He just doesn't get it. World class talent, $5 cent head.
I hated that it deteriorated to the point that a trade was necessary, but I definitely didn't hate the trade itself. In fact, I was kinda hoping they'd have done it a year prior, even as early as the point where we were seeking a new coach.
I used to defend this guy and believed he could/would grow up. Â
Is anyone at all curious as to why several of the guys traded are claiming they were screwed or lied to and continue to be vexed about it? Isn't that a little unusual? Or are you all just listening to the house siren song that these people were all malcontents who needed to be dumped so the unicorns and rainbows would come out.
Strange take. We are talking about Beckham and Collins here. Maybe we should ask DRC for his take?
Players that never won anything here, rarely showed leadership... are bitter that they were shown the door by a new GM and Coach. And yet the Giants are to blame for this? McAdoo, Reese, Ross are gone....
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I actually didn't need to click anything - I got a B/R alert on my phone because this fell under "Giants news" for them - which is what I subscribe to as far as football goes along with other general breaking news. I don't subscribe to Browns news or Beckham.
So, I'm guessing for most of us - we didn't really need to actively seek this out. I don't follow him on Twitter, I don't follow him on Instagram and I don't look up anything he does... but I still saw this anyway.
And all the people who point this out are the same ones opening these threads. So, we can play the whole "you care! No YOU care!" game all day long... but if he's going to speak directly about NYG or the trade, I think most people would be at least mildly curious to know what was said.
There's a degree of distance between 1) Beckham said something dopey again I'm curious and 2) he's a raging prick, asshole, and people who defend him are slurping him.
Maybe he's a little too bothersome for some and should be ignored?
Cleveland is an up and coming team that finally got a qb who can play (but who's almost as stupid as Beckham).
Yeah, that's true... if the Giants were truly looking for a franchise to send him to "die" on, the Browns as currently constructed would have been an odd choice. And I have to think Browns fans bristle a bit at that comment (though maybe they're resigned to the fact that there's been merit to it).
of a guy but man, we have to be grateful every day that there are players like Saquon Barkley still out there who keep it humble and positive and play the game. I'm glad I don't have kids who are watching some of these guys.
Beckham wanted to stay in NY and if not possible, would be happy to play in FL or CA, but nowhere else, and Cleveland is the worst selection in the world of nowhere else.
Needs therapy badly. This is an unhealthy obsession and an inability to play the cards you're dealt. He has the QB he wanted and he's playing with his best friend, that sounds like maybe DG did him a favor by sending him there. His take on this is 100% backwards.
This is what is mind-boggling. He said he wanted a "real" quarterback and wanted to play with his best friend. He got everything he wanted (including the contract) except it's not in LA.
Holy shit.
He is just jealous that AB has been out-divaing him lately Â
to the city and people of Cleveland. It is clear he sees being traded there as a punishment and can't get past that. If I were a fan of the Browns I think I would be more concerned that he sees our city, town and team as a death sentence.
Ya THINK??!!
FWIW, Cleveland is a fantastic football town, loyal to a fault - fan culture there worships Browns as much as any rabid College town supporting it's school.
LeBron already showed by example how to be a star in that town.
Odell ignores that and yes, the fans there are definitely hearing those words the same way we are.
I give him 3 years tops before his whiny, always-injured ass is traded again - maybe sooner depending how long it takes him to piss off the entire organization. He has become the hot-potato prima-donna of the era, he is Randy Moss, he is Terrell Owens.
Needs therapy badly. This is an unhealthy obsession and an inability to play the cards you're dealt. He has the QB he wanted and he's playing with his best friend, that sounds like maybe DG did him a favor by sending him there. His take on this is 100% backwards.
This is what is mind-boggling. He said he wanted a "real" quarterback and wanted to play with his best friend. He got everything he wanted (including the contract) except it's not in LA.
Holy shit.
I think it's pretty clear Beckham lacks the self awareness to understand he's part of, and often times all of, the problem.
Two head coaches and two GMs had a crack at getting through to him, low likely anyone does until he's an older, wiser individual.
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I actually didn't need to click anything - I got a B/R alert on my phone because this fell under "Giants news" for them - which is what I subscribe to as far as football goes along with other general breaking news. I don't subscribe to Browns news or Beckham.
So, I'm guessing for most of us - we didn't really need to actively seek this out. I don't follow him on Twitter, I don't follow him on Instagram and I don't look up anything he does... but I still saw this anyway.
And all the people who point this out are the same ones opening these threads. So, we can play the whole "you care! No YOU care!" game all day long... but if he's going to speak directly about NYG or the trade, I think most people would be at least mildly curious to know what was said.
There's a degree of distance between 1) Beckham said something dopey again I'm curious and 2) he's a raging prick, asshole, and people who defend him are slurping him.
Maybe he's a little too bothersome for some and should be ignored?
especially when the person who calls Beckham a prick and an asshole is such an upstanding gentleman who always treats other posters with respect and civility
And you can't find a teammate who'd say a bad thing about him!
Well that’s probably because they aren’t assholes like him. I’m sure what one says and what one thinks can be totally different. And we are talking only a few players who have really stood up for him.
especially when the person who calls Beckham a prick and an asshole is such an upstanding gentleman who always treats other posters with respect and civility
Get fucking lost scumbag. After you laughing at my cancer scare earlier this summer and then mocking a serious concussion I got when I was younger - you are the biggest POS on this site. It’s people like you who should be fucking banned but somehow you keep avoiding the mods or you’re related to them. Either or.
to the city and people of Cleveland. It is clear he sees being traded there as a punishment and can't get past that. If I were a fan of the Browns I think I would be more concerned that he sees our city, town and team as a death sentence.
Ya THINK??!!
FWIW, Cleveland is a fantastic football town, loyal to a fault - fan culture there worships Browns as much as any rabid College town supporting it's school.
LeBron already showed by example how to be a star in that town.
Odell ignores that and yes, the fans there are definitely hearing those words the same way we are.
I give him 3 years tops before his whiny, always-injured ass is traded again - maybe sooner depending how long it takes him to piss off the entire organization. He has become the hot-potato prima-donna of the era, he is Randy Moss, he is Terrell Owens.
Antonio Brown has a pretty good claim to that “throne”
But generally I agree...I really think DG and the Giants decided to sell high on OBJ before he went full AB and forced his way out
get the anger and vitriol directed at guys like Beckham. he's not some great intellectual, thinker or someone who has anything interesting to say. Like most elite athletes he is basically an uninteresting ignoramus. I would not be interested to spend more than ten minutes with such people. They mostly have nothing interesting to say outside of their perception of sports. And I have met many pro athletes, related to my work and sometimes just out and about. They are interesting because of their athletic exploits, not because of anything they have in their minds.
get the anger and vitriol directed at guys like Beckham. he's not some great intellectual, thinker or someone who has anything interesting to say. Like most elite athletes he is basically an uninteresting ignoramus. I would not be interested to spend more than ten minutes with such people. They mostly have nothing interesting to say outside of their perception of sports. And I have met many pro athletes, related to my work and sometimes just out and about. They are interesting because of their athletic exploits, not because of anything they have in their minds.
I don't get that you don't get the anger.
It's like having a former employee, friend, guest, etc. talking trash about you, especially after you gave them what they supposed wanted.
Idk, if I was a Browns fan, I’d be kinda insulted by that comment lol. Players go to the Browns to die? Thanks a lot Odell. Baker Mayfield being the over sensitive diva that he is, should be a little annoyed too.
Idk, if I was a Browns fan, I’d be kinda insulted by that comment lol. Players go to the Browns to die? Thanks a lot Odell. Baker Mayfield being the over sensitive diva that he is, should be a little annoyed too.
Look, they're the worst franchise in football since the original franchise moved to Baltimore - there's truth to what Beckham said.
But it's entertaining to watch him put his foot in his mouth.
And you can't find a teammate who'd say a bad thing about him!
Well that’s probably because they aren’t assholes like him. I’m sure what one says and what one thinks can be totally different. And we are talking only a few players who have really stood up for him.
No, I'm referencing all the people who used to say that Beckham couldn't possibly be a negative influence because if he were, his teammates wouldn't be complimenting him all the time.
It was constantly offered as proof that his detractors were all off base.
He is just mad lefraud James left Cleveland to L.A. before he got his Drama ass traded to the Browns.Poor Baby, with all that money you got from the Giants no wonder why your Hip Hurts.I thought T.O., Chris Carter, Randy Moss,Chad Johnson were divas, but OBJ AND ANTONIO BROWN Take it to a hole new Level.
He is probably a good teammate. Works hard, generous with his time. Personable. I trust that most of his teammates love him. He got a Giant contract with guaranteed money and then promptly publicly shit on his QB and indicated he would rather play elsewhere. I am sure this was in direct conflict with what they expected of him after they made him the face of the franchise with the aforementioned contract. I don't like him at all anymore. He could have just STFU and moved on with class. He is a no class, disloyal and bitter piece of garbage. I hope he rots in Cleveland.
Is anyone at all curious as to why several of the guys traded are claiming they were screwed or lied to and continue to be vexed about it? Isn't that a little unusual? Or are you all just listening to the house siren song that these people were all malcontents who needed to be dumped so the unicorns and rainbows would come out.
Sheesh, HJ, are you still feeling butthurt about Giants' treatment of TC? And, yes, no question, I agree that it should have been Reese first, or both together.
But, back to the premise of the OP:
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Beckham also said he felt stifled in New York, between the intense media environment and the Giants organization.
One guy who didn't stifle him was TC, in the awful Norman WWE event. Had TC actually been the adult in the room, the disciplinarian he claimed to be, he would have benched him then and there and maybe for the next game also. Maybe that would have helped OBJ gain some perspective, re-think his 'I am bigger than the team' mentality. Naahh, likely not. But it would have brought things to a head more quickly.
That failure on his (Tom's) part, and his failure to own up to it afterwards, was the beginning of the end for him.
to the city and people of Cleveland. It is clear he sees being traded there as a punishment and can't get past that. If I were a fan of the Browns I think I would be more concerned that he sees our city, town and team as a death sentence.
This is actually a great point.
I think he knows this and is why he is so upset. He was suppose to go to Tinsel Town.
Is anyone at all curious as to why several of the guys traded are claiming they were screwed or lied to and continue to be vexed about it? Isn't that a little unusual? Or are you all just listening to the house siren song that these people were all malcontents who needed to be dumped so the unicorns and rainbows would come out.
Sheesh, HJ, are you still feeling butthurt about Giants' treatment of TC? And, yes, no question, I agree that it should have been Reese first, or both together.
But, back to the premise of the OP:
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Beckham also said he felt stifled in New York, between the intense media environment and the Giants organization.
One guy who didn't stifle him was TC, in the awful Norman WWE event. Had TC actually been the adult in the room, the disciplinarian he claimed to be, he would have benched him then and there and maybe for the next game also. Maybe that would have helped OBJ gain some perspective, re-think his 'I am bigger than the team' mentality. Naahh, likely not. But it would have brought things to a head more quickly.
That failure on his (Tom's) part, and his failure to own up to it afterwards, was the beginning of the end for him.
Give me a break. Odell is who is he is, for better or worse.
TC doing something that day wasn't going alter anything.
Is anyone at all curious as to why several of the guys traded are claiming they were screwed or lied to and continue to be vexed about it? Isn't that a little unusual? Or are you all just listening to the house siren song that these people were all malcontents who needed to be dumped so the unicorns and rainbows would come out.
Sheesh, HJ, are you still feeling butthurt about Giants' treatment of TC? And, yes, no question, I agree that it should have been Reese first, or both together.
But, back to the premise of the OP:
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Beckham also said he felt stifled in New York, between the intense media environment and the Giants organization.
One guy who didn't stifle him was TC, in the awful Norman WWE event. Had TC actually been the adult in the room, the disciplinarian he claimed to be, he would have benched him then and there and maybe for the next game also. Maybe that would have helped OBJ gain some perspective, re-think his 'I am bigger than the team' mentality. Naahh, likely not. But it would have brought things to a head more quickly.
That failure on his (Tom's) part, and his failure to own up to it afterwards, was the beginning of the end for him.
Give me a break. Odell is who is he is, for better or worse.
TC doing something that day wasn't going alter anything.
Agree with this. Coughlin gets WAY too much shit for this, and it was a hot take at the time.
Two things I remember about that time period. One was Beckham open to being "coached/coachable". I remember interviews with him where he said "I told Coach to stay on me, stay on me coach, I need it..."
And then, in the post game of that debacle, Tom Coughlin said specifically "He needs to learn. He needs to be out there and learn". I've always assumed he meant learn to properly channel that anger, learn how it affects the team negatively and what happens when you take the bait as Beckham did from Norman. And let's not forget, Josh Norman started all that shit. This was a lesson in what not do do and I believe Coughlin was thinking longer term than one game.
But that's just my take. I know some think that symbolizes and old senile man that couldn't reach the young athlete.
Idk, if I was a Browns fan, I’d be kinda insulted by that comment lol. Players go to the Browns to die? Thanks a lot Odell. Baker Mayfield being the over sensitive diva that he is, should be a little annoyed too.
Look, they're the worst franchise in football since the original franchise moved to Baltimore - there's truth to what Beckham said.
But it's entertaining to watch him put his foot in his mouth.
He really did put his foot in his mouth. In a big way. Lol. Just amazed that Odell couldnt see how Browns fans, as bad as they’ve been, are still proud and want to win.
I’ve been saying this since the day of the trade Â
They sent him to Cleveland. Its absolutely hilarious. They called only one other team. Buffalo. Mara and Gettleman knew exactly what they were doing and how much it would drive Beckham crazy. He’s in the AFC who they play one time every four years. The way Beckham’s health is trending it’s 50/50 they’ll have to see him even twice for the rest of his career. Well played Giants.
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Is anyone at all curious as to why several of the guys traded are claiming they were screwed or lied to and continue to be vexed about it? Isn't that a little unusual? Or are you all just listening to the house siren song that these people were all malcontents who needed to be dumped so the unicorns and rainbows would come out.
Sheesh, HJ, are you still feeling butthurt about Giants' treatment of TC? And, yes, no question, I agree that it should have been Reese first, or both together.
But, back to the premise of the OP:
Quote:
Beckham also said he felt stifled in New York, between the intense media environment and the Giants organization.
One guy who didn't stifle him was TC, in the awful Norman WWE event. Had TC actually been the adult in the room, the disciplinarian he claimed to be, he would have benched him then and there and maybe for the next game also. Maybe that would have helped OBJ gain some perspective, re-think his 'I am bigger than the team' mentality. Naahh, likely not. But it would have brought things to a head more quickly.
That failure on his (Tom's) part, and his failure to own up to it afterwards, was the beginning of the end for him.
This is Coughlins fault? Holy Stretch.
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They sent him to Cleveland. Its absolutely hilarious. They called only one other team. Buffalo. Mara and Gettleman knew exactly what they were doing and how much it would drive Beckham crazy. He’s in the AFC who they play one time every four years. The way Beckham’s health is trending it’s 50/50 they’ll have to see him even twice for the rest of his career. Well played Giants.
I think the value was there but I 100% buy this as well. No doubt he would have rather played for SF even if he couldn't get to LA. Still, if you are being a pro nothing close to this is coming out of your mouth.
is how good of a performance odell put in. He was the reason we had a chance to win it
ron, as hot a debate topic as Odell is here, no one I can think of, certainly not me, doubts his talent. I could hardly believe the team's good fortune as it became apparent just how good he was.
But your point about his performance up to the point where he lost his head--and the serial apologizers and defenders above who cry about Norman's role--is beside the point. When TC failed to reign him in, this was a big deal in terms of the cohesion of a football team, where teamwork and everyone pulling in the same direction are paramount. It signaled that the HC had variable standards as to who had to play by team rules and what's for the benefit of the team and who did not. That's a significant tell in this game of football. And that is how it played out, as it turned out.
is how good of a performance odell put in. He was the reason we had a chance to win it
ron, as hot a debate topic as Odell is here, no one I can think of, certainly not me, doubts his talent. I could hardly believe the team's good fortune as it became apparent just how good he was.
But your point about his performance up to the point where he lost his head--and the serial apologizers and defenders above who cry about Norman's role--is beside the point. When TC failed to reign him in, this was a big deal in terms of the cohesion of a football team, where teamwork and everyone pulling in the same direction are paramount. It signaled that the HC had variable standards as to who had to play by team rules and what's for the benefit of the team and who did not. That's a significant tell in this game of football. And that is how it played out, as it turned out.
What happened there was unprecedented. So much so that the NFL made a rule about it the following year.
That was not a player being held to a different standard over the course of a season. This was about one game/instance, and one so extraordinary that they changed the rules because of it.
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is how good of a performance odell put in. He was the reason we had a chance to win it
ron, as hot a debate topic as Odell is here, no one I can think of, certainly not me, doubts his talent. I could hardly believe the team's good fortune as it became apparent just how good he was.
But your point about his performance up to the point where he lost his head--and the serial apologizers and defenders above who cry about Norman's role--is beside the point. When TC failed to reign him in, this was a big deal in terms of the cohesion of a football team, where teamwork and everyone pulling in the same direction are paramount. It signaled that the HC had variable standards as to who had to play by team rules and what's for the benefit of the team and who did not. That's a significant tell in this game of football. And that is how it played out, as it turned out.
Plus, as good as he was in that game, one consequence was that he was suspended for a game and had undue focus, including pregame warnings, for the next several games. There may have been an unsportmsanlike or two mixed in as well, but I can't really recall. So, it wasn't all help; some of it was hurt.
get the anger and vitriol directed at guys like Beckham. he's not some great intellectual, thinker or someone who has anything interesting to say. Like most elite athletes he is basically an uninteresting ignoramus. I would not be interested to spend more than ten minutes with such people. They mostly have nothing interesting to say outside of their perception of sports. And I have met many pro athletes, related to my work and sometimes just out and about. They are interesting because of their athletic exploits, not because of anything they have in their minds.
I don't get that you don't get the anger.
It's like having a former employee, friend, guest, etc. talking trash about you, especially after you gave them what they supposed wanted.
really? it's like a friend trash-talking you. not making too much of this? athletes are fucking idiots for most part. many, like OBJ, are raging narcissists. Who gives a shit what he says. He was great for us while he was here and now he's gone, because the team determined they couldn't win with him. They were probably right. Sayonara. He's just bitching and pining for attention. Ignore it, I say.
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is how good of a performance odell put in. He was the reason we had a chance to win it
ron, as hot a debate topic as Odell is here, no one I can think of, certainly not me, doubts his talent. I could hardly believe the team's good fortune as it became apparent just how good he was.
But your point about his performance up to the point where he lost his head--and the serial apologizers and defenders above who cry about Norman's role--is beside the point. When TC failed to reign him in, this was a big deal in terms of the cohesion of a football team, where teamwork and everyone pulling in the same direction are paramount. It signaled that the HC had variable standards as to who had to play by team rules and what's for the benefit of the team and who did not. That's a significant tell in this game of football. And that is how it played out, as it turned out.
I'f my memory serves, most of his big plays happened after the earhole incident. My memory may be off, looking at the box score for that game he didn't have the monster game I thought he did.
...would have been STOKED for the opportunity to be a part of potentially turning the Browns into a legitimate contender - to celebrate the rich history of football in that city, to embrace it's culture, it's fans - to be as beloved as the other hero's and greats that city has produced over the last century.
He's still rich enough to travel wherever the hell he wants. Outside of football season, he doesn't even need to live there.
He should be ALL IN on this and as much fun as I'm having watching him implode, indeed giving in to exactly the 'exile to Siberia' he's accusing the Giants of - it's sad.
RE: RE: RE: One thing that gets lost about that game Â
is how good of a performance odell put in. He was the reason we had a chance to win it
ron, as hot a debate topic as Odell is here, no one I can think of, certainly not me, doubts his talent. I could hardly believe the team's good fortune as it became apparent just how good he was.
But your point about his performance up to the point where he lost his head--and the serial apologizers and defenders above who cry about Norman's role--is beside the point. When TC failed to reign him in, this was a big deal in terms of the cohesion of a football team, where teamwork and everyone pulling in the same direction are paramount. It signaled that the HC had variable standards as to who had to play by team rules and what's for the benefit of the team and who did not. That's a significant tell in this game of football. And that is how it played out, as it turned out.
I'f my memory serves, most of his big plays happened after the earhole incident. My memory may be off, looking at the box score for that game he didn't have the monster game I thought he did.
He caught the game tying TD, over Norman one on one, with a minute left in the game.
He will not even realize that he insulted Cleveland Â
...I'f my memory serves, most of his big plays happened after the earhole incident. My memory may be off, looking at the box score for that game he didn't have the monster game I thought he did.
Thanks for the candor, and I would have taken you at your word, or recall. What stood out for me about that game was the melt-down, the not taking him off the field, TC's utter lack of candor in the post-game presser (he walked it back slightly on Monday AM). It was stunning to me, but it didn't turn me against Odell. I was perplexed, confused, I guess, because it wouldn't become clear whether this was going to become a constant.
On the other hand, and FMiC roasts this point of view, I was pissed off when the boat story before the Packers game came out, and we know how that played out.
What a waste, for team and player to have it go this way.
seen a guy get so fucked up by fame as Beckham. As alluded to above, he simply can't handle it and it's sad to watch it unfold on TV. This guy is a complete embarrassment and I'm glad I don't have to root for him anymore.
Beckham is afraid the Browns won’t make the playoffs With him Â
Not Mara, not Tisch, not Reese, not Coughlin, not McAdoo and quite frankly neither did Shurmur or Gettleman (at least in year one).
The truth is, Beckham is no good and we do know now that it likely wouldn't have mattered how they handled him.
He is an asshole now just as he was an asshole in 2016 when he was performing at a high level.
Some of us have been saying it the whole time.
I think if they were able to put together a winning team, these issues would not have surfaced. Or at least be limited to fringe issues like TD celebrations and hotel room videos.
I think you can win with a guy like OBJ if you have the rest of the pieces in place, but he is not a guy you want during a rebuild.
Their real failure was in building the rest of the roster, not in mis-handling OBJ.
Gettlemen said on the day he was hired "I don't want players who want to win, I want players who hate to lose"
He probably followed it up during the 2018 season with a "NOT LIKE THAT!"
The boat trip followed by choking in the Playoff game was when I started turning on him too. He is a cautionary tale of what can happen to a star athlete in the modern era.
to the city and people of Cleveland. It is clear he sees being traded there as a punishment and can't get past that. If I were a fan of the Browns I think I would be more concerned that he sees our city, town and team as a death sentence.
This +1 -- I'd be super annoyed as a Browns fan at this stuff .
I thought some of the dumb stuff he did was blown out of proportion. But he's way too focused on how his time in NY fell apart, and this was a dumb thing to say. It's done, move on - plus pretty insulting to CLE fans. I didn't really root against him and Mayfield, but they are making it hard by trying to create some rivalry - win some games first before talking so much...
I thought some of the dumb stuff he did was blown out of proportion. But he's way too focused on how his time in NY fell apart, and this was a dumb thing to say. It's done, move on - plus pretty insulting to CLE fans. I didn't really root against him and Mayfield, but they are making it hard by trying to create some rivalry - win some games first before talking so much...
if he wanted to stay in NY he had a funny way of showing it..
He is just mad lefraud James left Cleveland to L.A. before he got his Drama ass traded to the Browns.Poor Baby, with all that money you got from the Giants no wonder why your Hip Hurts.I thought T.O., Chris Carter, Randy Moss,Chad Johnson were divas, but OBJ AND ANTONIO BROWN Take it to a hole new Level.
and from a talent perspective, that is true. However, his mouth and actions (plus being injury prone) may end up costing him in the long run.
I would not be surprised if one day years from now we will be talking about how he blew is chance to get into the hall of fame.
I loved Odell when he was here, but to call him a generational talent is offbase. Deandre Hopkins is a better player than him most definetly, and he may only be the 5th best WR in the league. That isn't generational.
RE: We have been calling him a generational talent... Â
and from a talent perspective, that is true. However, his mouth and actions (plus being injury prone) may end up costing him in the long run.
I would not be surprised if one day years from now we will be talking about how he blew is chance to get into the hall of fame.
So the thing is, yeah, he was the type of WR that you don't get very often.
However - I don't know how much longer Beckham would've stayed, well, Beckham. I think he does well this year when he's on the field because Cleveland is stacked, but the arrow might be trending downhill.
And who knows where his head is.
The trade was the correct move.
RE: RE: We have been calling him a generational talent... Â
I loved Odell when he was here, but to call him a generational talent is offbase. Deandre Hopkins is a better player than him most definetly, and he may only be the 5th best WR in the league. That isn't generational.
"Most definitely"? Hopkins has certainly managed to stay healthier (especially the last 2 seasons), but they've scored almost an equal amount of TDs despite Beckham playing 36 less games in his career.
to the city and people of Cleveland. It is clear he sees being traded there as a punishment and can't get past that. If I were a fan of the Browns I think I would be more concerned that he sees our city, town and team as a death sentence.
My thoughts exactly. What a way to ingratiate yourself to your new fans.
to be suspended for helmet to helmet hit. If I recall correctly he is also the only Giant for being suspended for on-field play. We had drug and domestic abuse and other suspensions but has anyone been suspended for on-field play? Suspension of OBJ - ( New Window )
I actually didn't need to click anything - I got a B/R alert on my phone because this fell under "Giants news" for them - which is what I subscribe to as far as football goes along with other general breaking news. I don't subscribe to Browns news or Beckham.
So, I'm guessing for most of us - we didn't really need to actively seek this out. I don't follow him on Twitter, I don't follow him on Instagram and I don't look up anything he does... but I still saw this anyway.
And all the people who point this out are the same ones opening these threads. So, we can play the whole "you care! No YOU care!" game all day long... but if he's going to speak directly about NYG or the trade, I think most people would be at least mildly curious to know what was said.
There's a degree of distance between 1) Beckham said something dopey again I'm curious and 2) he's a raging prick, asshole, and people who defend him are slurping him.
Maybe he's a little too bothersome for some and should be ignored?
especially when the person who calls Beckham a prick and an asshole is such an upstanding gentleman who always treats other posters with respect and civility
I couldn't agree more, he almost seems like an internet odell minus the actual talent.
He's the same fucking moron who calls people "Eli fanboys", who says that Eli was carried by the defense in the SB wins and who has shit on the QB throughout his career.
It would be like me telling people to not curse.
RE: RE: RE: We have been calling him a generational talent... Â
I loved Odell when he was here, but to call him a generational talent is offbase. Deandre Hopkins is a better player than him most definetly, and he may only be the 5th best WR in the league. That isn't generational.
"Most definitely"? Hopkins has certainly managed to stay healthier (especially the last 2 seasons), but they've scored almost an equal amount of TDs despite Beckham playing 36 less games in his career.
The Texans offense has been atrocious with no quarterback up until recently. DeAndre Hopkins did not drop a pass in 2018. Beckham can barely go a game without a drop.
I wish he was traded to Buffalo. He'd live out the rest of his prime with Josh Allen throwing 80 passes/yr his way with about 40 of them uncatchable before he inevitably ends up in Oakland which will probably be embroiled in a qb battle between some rookie qb and an ancient Fitzpatrick
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I dont know what force makes people care so much Â
I actually didn't need to click anything - I got a B/R alert on my phone because this fell under "Giants news" for them - which is what I subscribe to as far as football goes along with other general breaking news. I don't subscribe to Browns news or Beckham.
So, I'm guessing for most of us - we didn't really need to actively seek this out. I don't follow him on Twitter, I don't follow him on Instagram and I don't look up anything he does... but I still saw this anyway.
And all the people who point this out are the same ones opening these threads. So, we can play the whole "you care! No YOU care!" game all day long... but if he's going to speak directly about NYG or the trade, I think most people would be at least mildly curious to know what was said.
There's a degree of distance between 1) Beckham said something dopey again I'm curious and 2) he's a raging prick, asshole, and people who defend him are slurping him.
Maybe he's a little too bothersome for some and should be ignored?
especially when the person who calls Beckham a prick and an asshole is such an upstanding gentleman who always treats other posters with respect and civility
I couldn't agree more, he almost seems like an internet odell minus the actual talent.
Of my concussion. Grade A scumbag who must have pictures of the moderators.
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Les in TO : 7/16/2019 5:16 pm : link
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I went sleigh riding across the street from my house. Had to be 20-30 kids around same age just having fun and we tried knocking whoever walked up the hill. Well I missed a guy, turned around to laugh, and when I looked straight ahead, I went head first into a telephone pole.
I flew into a snow pile where my sister dug me out. I was unconscious for about 10 hours. I was blinded for 6. Spent a week in the hospital to get various tests done. Had to watch the Bears-Giants 1990 playoff game in the hospital with my dad.
this explains a lot
You threatened the site owner and his family! You've had to come back in several reincarnations because the other ones were banned or the criticism to your rampant stupidity kept getting exposed.
Rover on his FOURTH handle
Les mocking someone with serious injuries and laughing at a person with cancer scare.
Yet both are still here - pathetic.
Weren't you banned for a year, and as an adult no less, AFTER you were banned from the BBI fantasy league AFTER you drove weatherman off BBI?
Les forgets more about football each day than you'll accumulate over your lifetime. Keep up the swell work.
Listen schmuck.... you don’t even have your god damn facts straight. Which is about 99% of the time.
I didn’t Drive weatherman from this site. And he didn’t kick me out of the BBI fantasy league. I quit the league when I dropped my entire team because weatherman made it a free league instead of a money league without consulting anyone in the league. Furthermore once you entered the league(a league in which I kicked your ass every time we played :)...) you went on rampages against Arc, cursing him up and down cause he made fun of your fandom of being a rangers/penguins. Younruined the league with your histrionics every time someone made fun of you, you pathetic turd.
And yes I was banned for a year and I’m not afraid to admit it. If some poster repeatedly called me a faggot and told me to suck a cock every other postand I stick up for myself and get banned so be it. While the other poster didn’t so much get a warning.
But go ahead and trash other posters while you are still here after threatening the owners family and once again on your FOURTH handle. You wanna see the spirit of how many posters are here on their 4th handle? You suck at fandom as much as Les knows football. You’re the same great “fan” who said you rather not see the Giants win any Super Bowls if it meant the Washington Capitals never winning one.
He's the same fucking moron who calls people "Eli fanboys", who says that Eli was carried by the defense in the SB wins and who has shit on the QB throughout his career.
It would be like me telling people to not curse.
He also laughed at me when I had a cancer scare. He is the biggest joke on the board. Always has been, always will be.
Rover on his FOURTH handle
Les mocking someone with serious injuries and laughing at a person with cancer scare.
Yet both are still here - pathetic.
Weren't you banned for a year, and as an adult no less, AFTER you were banned from the BBI fantasy league AFTER you drove weatherman off BBI?
Les forgets more about football each day than you'll accumulate over your lifetime. Keep up the swell work.
Listen schmuck.... you don’t even have your god damn facts straight. Which is about 99% of the time.
I didn’t Drive weatherman from this site. And he didn’t kick me out of the BBI fantasy league. I quit the league when I dropped my entire team because weatherman made it a free league instead of a money league without consulting anyone in the league. Furthermore once you entered the league(a league in which I kicked your ass every time we played :)...) you went on rampages against Arc, cursing him up and down cause he made fun of your fandom of being a rangers/penguins. Younruined the league with your histrionics every time someone made fun of you, you pathetic turd.
And yes I was banned for a year and I’m not afraid to admit it. If some poster repeatedly called me a faggot and told me to suck a cock every other post and I stick up for myself and get banned so be it. While the other poster didn’t so much get a warning.
But go ahead and trash other posters while you are still here after threatening the owners family and once again on your FOURTH handle. You wanna see the spirit of how many posters are here on their 4th handle? You suck at fandom as much as Les knows football. You’re the same great “fan” who said you rather not see the Giants win any Super Bowls if it meant the Washington Capitals never winning one.
You threatened the site owner and his family! You've had to come back in several reincarnations because the other ones were banned or the criticism to your rampant stupidity kept getting exposed.
I'm not getting into any of the specifics of what you said, other than it's pathetic you keep brining it up verbatim to discredit me over and over.
We're talking about 2001 at age 17, I'm 35 and it's 2019, my record speaks for itself.
And this is not my 4th handle.
But since you do bring up the past, I recall when you were winning a few years ago, made a long statement about how this site sucked and you were 'taking your ball' and leaving (which was quite nice), and that same owner all but told you not to let the door hit you, so really fatten, get off your high horse.
Rover on his FOURTH handle
Les mocking someone with serious injuries and laughing at a person with cancer scare.
Yet both are still here - pathetic.
Weren't you banned for a year, and as an adult no less, AFTER you were banned from the BBI fantasy league AFTER you drove weatherman off BBI?
Les forgets more about football each day than you'll accumulate over your lifetime. Keep up the swell work.
Listen schmuck.... you don’t even have your god damn facts straight. Which is about 99% of the time.
I didn’t Drive weatherman from this site. And he didn’t kick me out of the BBI fantasy league. I quit the league when I dropped my entire team because weatherman made it a free league instead of a money league without consulting anyone in the league. Furthermore once you entered the league(a league in which I kicked your ass every time we played :)...) you went on rampages against Arc, cursing him up and down cause he made fun of your fandom of being a rangers/penguins. Younruined the league with your histrionics every time someone made fun of you, you pathetic turd.
And yes I was banned for a year and I’m not afraid to admit it. If some poster repeatedly called me a faggot and told me to suck a cock every other postand I stick up for myself and get banned so be it. While the other poster didn’t so much get a warning.
But go ahead and trash other posters while you are still here after threatening the owners family and once again on your FOURTH handle. You wanna see the spirit of how many posters are here on their 4th handle? You suck at fandom as much as Les knows football. You’re the same great “fan” who said you rather not see the Giants win any Super Bowls if it meant the Washington Capitals never winning one.
Keep spouting nonsense like you always do.
Wrong.
1st, don't play victim on this board like Palestine does to Israel. Just look at this thread title.
2nd, I never had ANY such problems on the BBI fantasy baseball league. I got the emails from weatherman commending me for ignoring you and your unprovoked verbal attacks which did lead you to you being banned. I didn't behave in any such manner, I let you hang yourself and look like a fool, which you did.
3rd, I said perhaps I would give away one of the Pens back-back cup victories if it meant the Caps not winning...and really because I like two teams...thats what you use against me. SMH.
He's the same fucking moron who calls people "Eli fanboys", who says that Eli was carried by the defense in the SB wins and who has shit on the QB throughout his career.
It would be like me telling people to not curse.
He also laughed at me when I had a cancer scare. He is the biggest joke on the board. Always has been, always will be.
I was not aware of this and won't condone it.
Although I have had my own medical issues discussed on this board and I can't recall if it was you whom you used those against me too.
We're talking about 2001 at age 17, I'm 35 and it's 2019, my record speaks for itself.
What fucking record?? One of the most annoying posters on this site? What exactly do you think your record is, asking where to park a fucking car in the NYC metro area? What the percentage of fans was in the stadium each week? What kind of glorious history do you think you have on this site?
And by the way - I did "take my ball" and go home, just as I said. I didn't say it would be permanent- I took a several month break, and actually I usually take a break each year (not coincidentally coinciding with vacations and travel abroad). And yet - I have my same handle since I started here.
Wrong.
1st, don't play victim on this board like Palestine does to Israel. Just look at this thread title.
2nd, I never had ANY such problems on the BBI fantasy baseball league. I got the emails from weatherman commending me for ignoring you and your unprovoked verbal attacks which did lead you to you being banned. I didn't behave in any such manner, I let you hang yourself and look like a fool, which you did.
3rd, I said perhaps I would give away one of the Pens back-back cup victories if it meant the Caps not winning...and really because I like two teams...thats what you use against me. SMH.
1. Bullshit. I am not here spouting lies like you did. I told you why I got banned. I told you why I left the BBI league and I didn’t drive Weathrrman from this board like you proclaimed. You’re a flat out liar.
2. You cried and post negative attacks on the BBI yahoo page that cursed everyone up and down the board when they poked fun at you. It was actually weatherman who told everyone to stop picking in YOU cause how sensitive you were and your language would get the board in trouble. When the yahoo league became free due to weatherman’s decision, bigblueshock deopped our. And everyone stopped following their team cause there was no reason too. Try getting facts right. And when weatherman told everyone to stop making fun of you and let you act like petulant child - that’s when I left the league. The league in which I won two years prior. Kicked your ass every time, remember sparky?
3 and Bullshit again- you said you rather never see any of your sports teams win if it meant the Capitals never won.
Now get lost. You came here to start shit with me. Added nothing to the original topic. So dont you play the victim goldenHudsonroverTrent.
He's the same fucking moron who calls people "Eli fanboys", who says that Eli was carried by the defense in the SB wins and who has shit on the QB throughout his career.
It would be like me telling people to not curse.
He also laughed at me when I had a cancer scare. He is the biggest joke on the board. Always has been, always will be.
I was not aware of this and won't condone it.
Although I have had my own medical issues discussed on this board and I can't recall if it was you whom you used those against me too.
Well being that I never knew you had any... I couldn’t have.
I never batted an eye I mean for all the talent the amazing plays to me went in the shitter after the playoff loss
it burned my ass how small he and the other two Cruz and Manningham played so poorly . Putting up with his antics it was one of the best moves DG could have made . I don't
wish bad on him but damn sure glad he is gone . Good Luck
Browns your gonna need it ,
We're talking about 2001 at age 17, I'm 35 and it's 2019, my record speaks for itself.
What fucking record?? One of the most annoying posters on this site? What exactly do you think your record is, asking where to park a fucking car in the NYC metro area? What the percentage of fans was in the stadium each week? What kind of glorious history do you think you have on this site?
And by the way - I did "take my ball" and go home, just as I said. I didn't say it would be permanent- I took a several month break, and actually I usually take a break each year (not coincidentally coinciding with vacations and travel abroad). And yet - I have my same handle since I started here.
Will that be on your tombstone? 1 handle on BBI?
You’re a loudmouth asshole, always have been and have been called as much by management and posters.
But hey, at least you’ve been consistent for the past few decades.
Wrong.
1st, don't play victim on this board like Palestine does to Israel. Just look at this thread title.
2nd, I never had ANY such problems on the BBI fantasy baseball league. I got the emails from weatherman commending me for ignoring you and your unprovoked verbal attacks which did lead you to you being banned. I didn't behave in any such manner, I let you hang yourself and look like a fool, which you did.
3rd, I said perhaps I would give away one of the Pens back-back cup victories if it meant the Caps not winning...and really because I like two teams...thats what you use against me. SMH.
1. Bullshit. I am not here spouting lies like you did. I told you why I got banned. I told you why I left the BBI league and I didn’t drive Weathrrman from this board like you proclaimed. You’re a flat out liar.
2. You cried and post negative attacks on the BBI yahoo page that cursed everyone up and down the board when they poked fun at you. It was actually weatherman who told everyone to stop picking in YOU cause how sensitive you were and your language would get the board in trouble. When the yahoo league became free due to weatherman’s decision, bigblueshock deopped our. And everyone stopped following their team cause there was no reason too. Try getting facts right. And when weatherman told everyone to stop making fun of you and let you act like petulant child - that’s when I left the league. The league in which I won two years prior. Kicked your ass every time, remember sparky?
3 and Bullshit again- you said you rather never see any of your sports teams win if it meant the Capitals never won.
Now get lost. You came here to start shit with me. Added nothing to the original topic. So dont you play the victim goldenHudsonroverTrent.
Please. You have to reach back to when I was a teenager to equate your most recent banning with me.
And you’re a liar, Weatherman commended me for ignoring and not responding to your shit stirring provocation.
Just look at the title of this thread, you really think any unbiased person would believe you’re the rational, collected one that doesn’t exist to provoke?
Will that be on your tombstone? 1 handle on BBI?
You’re a loudmouth asshole, always have been and have been called as much by management and posters.
But hey, at least you’ve been consistent for the past few decades.
I don't see my stance towards trolls, dupes and fucking morons changing.
And not surprisingly, that's the way I address you. You can mock a person having one handle, but you have such a noticeable, ridiculous posting style that you're outed within days of coming back with a new one.
you're trying to walk back threatening the site owner and his family??
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Please. You have to reach back to when I was a teenager to equate your most recent banning with me.
I can count on one finger the number of posters who personally threatened eric. so think about that. Out of the thousands of people who have posted on this board, you make up the .0001% of posters who have done that.
you're trying to walk back threatening the site owner and his family??
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Please. You have to reach back to when I was a teenager to equate your most recent banning with me.
I can count on one finger the number of posters who personally threatened eric. so think about that. Out of the thousands of people who have posted on this board, you make up the .0001% of posters who have done that.
Percentages!!
Blah blah blah. It’s pathetic you keep reaching back 18 years pulling up stuff as a teenager. You’re the same loudmouth punk you’ve always been. Well done.
Isn’t it time you take your ball and have another vacation?
Care to explain why weatherman posted for 2 years after I left the BBI league? Or you just going to admit you are full of shit? Just stop.
And yes Beckham is a raging prick. He’s proven he’s as much as one as you have proven to be a liar.
Right. Weatherman didn’t ban you from the BBI league for repeated unprovoked flaming. That type of behavior wouldn’t be consistent with getting a ban more recently here long term, or starting a thread as articulate as this one. SMH.
Care to explain why weatherman posted for 2 years after I left the BBI league? Or you just going to admit you are full of shit? Just stop.
And yes Beckham is a raging prick. He’s proven he’s as much as one as you have proven to be a liar.
Right. Weatherman didn’t ban you from the BBI league for repeated unprovoked flaming. That type of behavior wouldn’t be consistent with getting a ban more recently here long term, or starting a thread as articulate as this one. SMH.
Alright schmuck. I’ll slow this down for you so you can understand.
1. Weatherman made it a free money league where people dropped out. And people stopped following it cause there was no point.
2. You acted like a nut when people use to tease you.
3. Weatherman told me in emails to stop making fun of you and him and I went back and forth about how bad the league got.
4. I decided to leave the league by dropping my team. The league got beyond stupid especially with your histrionics.
5. He then deleted my team cause I quit.
So whatever he told you is not true. And nor did I force him out of this forum either. Like you said already. So everything you said is a flat out lie. Not cut the shit out.
I don’t care what the hell people think cause everyone knows your on at least your FOURTH handle. So why should anyone believe your lies?
Care to explain why weatherman posted for 2 years after I left the BBI league? Or you just going to admit you are full of shit? Just stop.
And yes Beckham is a raging prick. He’s proven he’s as much as one as you have proven to be a liar.
Right. Weatherman didn’t ban you from the BBI league for repeated unprovoked flaming. That type of behavior wouldn’t be consistent with getting a ban more recently here long term, or starting a thread as articulate as this one. SMH.
Alright schmuck. I’ll slow this down for you so you can understand.
1. Weatherman made it a free money league where people dropped out. And people stopped following it cause there was no point.
2. You acted like a nut when people use to tease you.
3. Weatherman told me in emails to stop making fun of you and him and I went back and forth about how bad the league got.
4. I decided to leave the league by dropping my team. The league got beyond stupid especially with your histrionics.
5. He then deleted my team cause I quit.
So whatever he told you is not true. And nor did I force him out of this forum either. Like you said already. So everything you said is a flat out lie. Not cut the shit out.
I don’t care what the hell people think cause everyone knows your on at least your FOURTH handle. So why should anyone believe your lies?
this rover may be everything you say, but you need help man...
Care to explain why weatherman posted for 2 years after I left the BBI league? Or you just going to admit you are full of shit? Just stop.
And yes Beckham is a raging prick. He’s proven he’s as much as one as you have proven to be a liar.
Right. Weatherman didn’t ban you from the BBI league for repeated unprovoked flaming. That type of behavior wouldn’t be consistent with getting a ban more recently here long term, or starting a thread as articulate as this one. SMH.
Alright schmuck. I’ll slow this down for you so you can understand.
1. Weatherman made it a free money league where people dropped out. And people stopped following it cause there was no point.
2. You acted like a nut when people use to tease you.
3. Weatherman told me in emails to stop making fun of you and him and I went back and forth about how bad the league got.
4. I decided to leave the league by dropping my team. The league got beyond stupid especially with your histrionics.
5. He then deleted my team cause I quit.
So whatever he told you is not true. And nor did I force him out of this forum either. Like you said already. So everything you said is a flat out lie. Not cut the shit out.
I don’t care what the hell people think cause everyone knows your on at least your FOURTH handle. So why should anyone believe your lies?
Lol you do care which is why you are so animated.
If we were to believe you, then you basically at best pulled a Fat Msn in Charlotte, taking your ball and quitting the league.
Reminds of our president when Steph Curry refused to go to the WH and our current POTUS claimed he wasn’t invited.
4th handle?
I changed my name from Hudson to Rover, keeping the same account, so that doesn’t count.
Everybody knows you’re an off balanced loud mouth (look at the title of this thread and the agitated tone) who just got back from a long term ban, whose disputing he got banned from another league for similar behavior...all the while attempting to discredit me by going back to 2001. # of bans since 2011 for me < # of bans for you.
/Night bud.
Over and over and over and over again. Holy shit. Are you this dense? You come here to take a shit at me, make up lies, and run to bed. Good riddance.
Your so infatuated with this fucking debunked BBI league that you keep mentioning it over and over again without a fucking shred of truth to it. I whooped your ass in the league time and time again. I left the league because you whined and cried like the bitch you were. Now go change your handle again, and go look at the splits of people who give a fuck about it.
There’s one poster here who threatened Eric’s family and you have the balls to call out others? You’re trash buddy. Always have been, always will be.
when someone comes on tries to talk shit on someone, makes up lies, gets called out on it by multiple posters, and the tries to play the innocent victim.
There are a lot of shitty posters here, but Trent has to be near the top. And newsflash, the splits say its true as well!
But I am sure he will back it up with something about a dumb baseball league he couldnt compete it or something Weatherman supposedly said.
Hello - the original poster who threatened the site owner was.......TRENT!
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4th handle?
I changed my name from Hudson to Rover, keeping the same account, so that doesn’t count.
But hey, maybe that doesn't count because it was when the douchenozzle was a teenager? heees jusakid fer chissakes!!
And we shouldn't even be debating if it is just hudson or Rover - there were more iterations in there (even excluding Trent). That being the case - why are you still talking about bannings? You have literally changed handles multiple times. Are you really fucking denying that?
Up with Go Terps. He hasn't posted in a while, and it must strike him as bizarre to see how so many people he used to go toe to toe with have nearly whitewashed their former position on Beckham out of existence.
Up with Go Terps. He hasn't posted in a while, and it must strike him as bizarre to see how so many people he used to go toe to toe with have nearly whitewashed their former position on Beckham out of existence.
Hey there. I'm doing fine; just had my fill of posting here. Wasn't getting much out of it except aggravation at the bullshit people spout here. And the switch of opinions isn't surprising. If he were still a Giant all the people knocking him would still be defending him. Beckham didn't just become an asshole in March. But being rational isn't the same as being a fan.
Anyway, I'll probably be back for the mock draft on April. But otherwise, I'm out. Enjoy the season.
Hey there. I'm doing fine; just had my fill of posting here. Wasn't getting much out of it except aggravation at the bullshit people spout here. And the switch of opinions isn't surprising. If he were still a Giant all the people knocking him would still be defending him. Beckham didn't just become an asshole in March. But being rational isn't the same as being a fan.
Anyway, I'll probably be back for the mock draft on April. But otherwise, I'm out. Enjoy the season.
I hope you change your mind. I know there is a lot of crap posted here, but you always offer good content/opinions and we are all smarter for it.
Go Terps is just running away because Baltimore is trying what he Â
has been proposing for years, its gonna suck, and he's going to look like a moron! Jk,Jk, I actually think they are going to be one of the most interesting watches of 2019.
I'm guessing this is in reference to his latest quote...
"This wasn't no business move, it was personal. They thought they'd send me here to die."
Why can't his mouth do the same?
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I'm guessing this is in reference to his latest quote...
"This wasn't no business move, it was personal. They thought they'd send me here to die."
I think he is half right - it was both personal (see Lil Wayne interview) and business, get Peppers to replace LC plus some picks...
They were willing to do that just to be rid of you. So you are right Odell, it was personal. Maybe if you focused more on being a football player you might still be here.
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He made it that way.
But he'll never take responsibility - which is why he'll put himself above every team. The Browns included.
Maybe he'll finally get to LA like Moss did after a few more injury-filled seasons
“In a situation like his, Beckham says, a star player will often get a chance to discuss his preferred trade destinations. But he was never asked. In fact, he claims to know that the Giants received better offers and still chose to send him to Cleveland, out of spite, hoping to stain his career with the enduring stigma that comes with playing for the Browns.”
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I'm guessing this is in reference to his latest quote...
"This wasn't no business move, it was personal. They thought they'd send me here to die."
They did.
And in all likelihood, it will work.
You say you don't care, but you care.
"This wasn't no business move," Beckham told Ben Baskin of Sports Illustrated. "This was personal. They thought they'd send me here to die."
Basking wrote that Beckham "claims to know that the Giants received better offers and still chose to send him to Cleveland, out of spite, hoping to stain his career with the enduring stigma that comes with playing for the Browns."
Please Odell, tell us what team offered something better and exactly what the offer was.
What a fucking clown!! Every comment he makes, makes DG look smarter and smarter for trading his ass.
You say you don't care, but you care.
Or is he the ex-girlfriend that continues to stalk the boyfriend?
I'm not too surprised the onus has been put on the fans in that take.
That Odell has officially realized that Cleveland is not New York.
Good God, already...
You say you don't care, but you care.
Well, you're here too, aren't you?
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Beckham is the ex-girlfriend you don't unfollow on Instagram.
You say you don't care, but you care.
Or is he the ex-girlfriend that continues to stalk the boyfriend?
I'm not too surprised the onus has been put on the fans in that take.
Well in this case, if you're the boyfriend, do you feel stalked by Beckham?
Of course. But, somehow that POV is more "rational" or something.
DG doesn't get along with jackasses. That's a +1 for me.
I certainly don't seek out news, and definitely don't have enough emotional investment to think he's a raging prick.
He's an entertaining character who used to play for the team, got traded for good value, and is a funny foil.
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"This wasn't no business move," Beckham told Ben Baskin of Sports Illustrated. "This was personal. They thought they'd send me here to die."
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Basking wrote that Beckham "claims to know that the Giants received better offers and still chose to send him to Cleveland, out of spite, hoping to stain his career with the enduring stigma that comes with playing for the Browns."
Please Odell, tell us what team offered something better and exactly what the offer was.
What a fucking clown!! Every comment he makes, makes DG look smarter and smarter for trading his ass.
Oddly enough, earlier the article talks about OBJ meeting Landry after the latter was traded to Cleveland and they talked about dreaming to play together. So, why would he have that degree of bitterness if the trade facilitate dhis dreams?
Some irony here.
Those two fighting would be more of a slap and tickle. Baseball players would brawl more meaningfully than those two.
I wonder what Dorsey thinks of his team’s complete lack of focus this summer? He was handed a fuckload of can’t miss high draft picks by his predecessor and has turned it into maybe a 2 year window before their cap bites them... and their players don’t seem at all interested in focusing on themselves and how they can help their own team finally win a playoff game in over 20 years.
It's a long-term, reality drama, following a organization over years.
So yes, as part of following the part of the 'drama' of the Giants, we are paying attention to Odell Beckham.
Because it is an entertainment business, and his reactions to being traded to Cleveland are seriously fucking entertaining.
And still Giants fans feed into it, just as he is hoping they will.
Nice
yeah ... how else can you read "hoping to stain his career with the enduring stigma that comes with playing for the Browns"?
Too bad it turned out this way. After his rookie year there was a bunch of chatter about him getting advice from Lebron and MJ on how handle success -- that clearly didn't work.
I'm surprised Coughlin didn't nip it in the bud, he was typically pretty good with that type of player.
+1 This was my first thought as well.
This is actually a great point.
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to the city and people of Cleveland. It is clear he sees being traded there as a punishment and can't get past that. If I were a fan of the Browns I think I would be more concerned that he sees our city, town and team as a death sentence.
This is actually a great point.
I don't think he is referencing the city, but the complete ineptitude of the Browns.
What several guys are you referring to? Who has claimed they were screwed with or lied to?
OBJ is the only guy we traded who’s talking (not a peep from Vernon), and even he’s never said he was screwed with or lied to, his gripe is the Giants didn’t throw rose petals at his feet on the way out the door.
Landon wasn’t traded, he left in free agency, and his gripe has been a perceived lack of respect when the Giants didn’t even try to bring him back.
Who else?
2 immediate starters and 1 eventual (hopefully) starter for that me-first asshole who's most likely going to miss at least a quarter of the season? Yes please. Thank you very much.
Sing along..
me me me me me me me me me me me
me me me me
me!
What a teammate!
I actually didn't need to click anything - I got a B/R alert on my phone because this fell under "Giants news" for them - which is what I subscribe to as far as football goes along with other general breaking news. I don't subscribe to Browns news or Beckham.
So, I'm guessing for most of us - we didn't really need to actively seek this out. I don't follow him on Twitter, I don't follow him on Instagram and I don't look up anything he does... but I still saw this anyway.
And all the people who point this out are the same ones opening these threads. So, we can play the whole "you care! No YOU care!" game all day long... but if he's going to speak directly about NYG or the trade, I think most people would be at least mildly curious to know what was said.
Beckham isn't claiming he was lied to. His issue, apparently from his quote, is that he was entitled to dictate his next location in trade and that did not happen.
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to the city and people of Cleveland. It is clear he sees being traded there as a punishment and can't get past that. If I were a fan of the Browns I think I would be more concerned that he sees our city, town and team as a death sentence.
This is actually a great point.
I hated that it deteriorated to the point that a trade was necessary, but I definitely didn't hate the trade itself. In fact, I was kinda hoping they'd have done it a year prior, even as early as the point where we were seeking a new coach.
Strange take. We are talking about Beckham and Collins here. Maybe we should ask DRC for his take?
Players that never won anything here, rarely showed leadership... are bitter that they were shown the door by a new GM and Coach. And yet the Giants are to blame for this? McAdoo, Reese, Ross are gone....
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Nobody's making you click these links.
I actually didn't need to click anything - I got a B/R alert on my phone because this fell under "Giants news" for them - which is what I subscribe to as far as football goes along with other general breaking news. I don't subscribe to Browns news or Beckham.
So, I'm guessing for most of us - we didn't really need to actively seek this out. I don't follow him on Twitter, I don't follow him on Instagram and I don't look up anything he does... but I still saw this anyway.
And all the people who point this out are the same ones opening these threads. So, we can play the whole "you care! No YOU care!" game all day long... but if he's going to speak directly about NYG or the trade, I think most people would be at least mildly curious to know what was said.
There's a degree of distance between 1) Beckham said something dopey again I'm curious and 2) he's a raging prick, asshole, and people who defend him are slurping him.
Maybe he's a little too bothersome for some and should be ignored?
Yeah, that's true... if the Giants were truly looking for a franchise to send him to "die" on, the Browns as currently constructed would have been an odd choice. And I have to think Browns fans bristle a bit at that comment (though maybe they're resigned to the fact that there's been merit to it).
Nobody pays attention to Gene.
And you can't find a teammate who'd say a bad thing about him!
This is what is mind-boggling. He said he wanted a "real" quarterback and wanted to play with his best friend. He got everything he wanted (including the contract) except it's not in LA.
Holy shit.
FWIW, Cleveland is a fantastic football town, loyal to a fault - fan culture there worships Browns as much as any rabid College town supporting it's school.
LeBron already showed by example how to be a star in that town.
Odell ignores that and yes, the fans there are definitely hearing those words the same way we are.
I give him 3 years tops before his whiny, always-injured ass is traded again - maybe sooner depending how long it takes him to piss off the entire organization. He has become the hot-potato prima-donna of the era, he is Randy Moss, he is Terrell Owens.
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Needs therapy badly. This is an unhealthy obsession and an inability to play the cards you're dealt. He has the QB he wanted and he's playing with his best friend, that sounds like maybe DG did him a favor by sending him there. His take on this is 100% backwards.
This is what is mind-boggling. He said he wanted a "real" quarterback and wanted to play with his best friend. He got everything he wanted (including the contract) except it's not in LA.
Holy shit.
I think it's pretty clear Beckham lacks the self awareness to understand he's part of, and often times all of, the problem.
Two head coaches and two GMs had a crack at getting through to him, low likely anyone does until he's an older, wiser individual.
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Nobody's making you click these links.
I actually didn't need to click anything - I got a B/R alert on my phone because this fell under "Giants news" for them - which is what I subscribe to as far as football goes along with other general breaking news. I don't subscribe to Browns news or Beckham.
So, I'm guessing for most of us - we didn't really need to actively seek this out. I don't follow him on Twitter, I don't follow him on Instagram and I don't look up anything he does... but I still saw this anyway.
And all the people who point this out are the same ones opening these threads. So, we can play the whole "you care! No YOU care!" game all day long... but if he's going to speak directly about NYG or the trade, I think most people would be at least mildly curious to know what was said.
There's a degree of distance between 1) Beckham said something dopey again I'm curious and 2) he's a raging prick, asshole, and people who defend him are slurping him.
Maybe he's a little too bothersome for some and should be ignored?
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And you can't find a teammate who'd say a bad thing about him!
Well that’s probably because they aren’t assholes like him. I’m sure what one says and what one thinks can be totally different. And we are talking only a few players who have really stood up for him.
As a good friend always says: "Body by Nautilus, brains by Mattel."
This and Bakers quotes should tide us over till Thursday night.
especially when the person who calls Beckham a prick and an asshole is such an upstanding gentleman who always treats other posters with respect and civility
Get fucking lost scumbag. After you laughing at my cancer scare earlier this summer and then mocking a serious concussion I got when I was younger - you are the biggest POS on this site. It’s people like you who should be fucking banned but somehow you keep avoiding the mods or you’re related to them. Either or.
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to the city and people of Cleveland. It is clear he sees being traded there as a punishment and can't get past that. If I were a fan of the Browns I think I would be more concerned that he sees our city, town and team as a death sentence.
Ya THINK??!!
FWIW, Cleveland is a fantastic football town, loyal to a fault - fan culture there worships Browns as much as any rabid College town supporting it's school.
LeBron already showed by example how to be a star in that town.
Odell ignores that and yes, the fans there are definitely hearing those words the same way we are.
I give him 3 years tops before his whiny, always-injured ass is traded again - maybe sooner depending how long it takes him to piss off the entire organization. He has become the hot-potato prima-donna of the era, he is Randy Moss, he is Terrell Owens.
Antonio Brown has a pretty good claim to that “throne”
But generally I agree...I really think DG and the Giants decided to sell high on OBJ before he went full AB and forced his way out
I don't get that you don't get the anger.
It's like having a former employee, friend, guest, etc. talking trash about you, especially after you gave them what they supposed wanted.
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But it's entertaining to watch him put his foot in his mouth.
He was traded from a team that went 5-11 to a team that went 7-8-1 and contended for a playoff spot.
Not enough Paparazzi to document his night life I suppose.
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And you can't find a teammate who'd say a bad thing about him!
Well that’s probably because they aren’t assholes like him. I’m sure what one says and what one thinks can be totally different. And we are talking only a few players who have really stood up for him.
No, I'm referencing all the people who used to say that Beckham couldn't possibly be a negative influence because if he were, his teammates wouldn't be complimenting him all the time.
It was constantly offered as proof that his detractors were all off base.
The only one acting like a girl is OBJ
Not enough Paparazzi to document his night life I suppose.
Man these small city downtown areas are ghost towns after 6.
But, back to the premise of the OP:
That failure on his (Tom's) part, and his failure to own up to it afterwards, was the beginning of the end for him.
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to the city and people of Cleveland. It is clear he sees being traded there as a punishment and can't get past that. If I were a fan of the Browns I think I would be more concerned that he sees our city, town and team as a death sentence.
This is actually a great point.
I think he knows this and is why he is so upset. He was suppose to go to Tinsel Town.
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Is anyone at all curious as to why several of the guys traded are claiming they were screwed or lied to and continue to be vexed about it? Isn't that a little unusual? Or are you all just listening to the house siren song that these people were all malcontents who needed to be dumped so the unicorns and rainbows would come out.
Sheesh, HJ, are you still feeling butthurt about Giants' treatment of TC? And, yes, no question, I agree that it should have been Reese first, or both together.
But, back to the premise of the OP:
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Beckham also said he felt stifled in New York, between the intense media environment and the Giants organization.
One guy who didn't stifle him was TC, in the awful Norman WWE event. Had TC actually been the adult in the room, the disciplinarian he claimed to be, he would have benched him then and there and maybe for the next game also. Maybe that would have helped OBJ gain some perspective, re-think his 'I am bigger than the team' mentality. Naahh, likely not. But it would have brought things to a head more quickly.
That failure on his (Tom's) part, and his failure to own up to it afterwards, was the beginning of the end for him.
Give me a break. Odell is who is he is, for better or worse.
TC doing something that day wasn't going alter anything.
He won't bring the team down, he'll just get "injured" if he's unhappy.
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Is anyone at all curious as to why several of the guys traded are claiming they were screwed or lied to and continue to be vexed about it? Isn't that a little unusual? Or are you all just listening to the house siren song that these people were all malcontents who needed to be dumped so the unicorns and rainbows would come out.
Sheesh, HJ, are you still feeling butthurt about Giants' treatment of TC? And, yes, no question, I agree that it should have been Reese first, or both together.
But, back to the premise of the OP:
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Beckham also said he felt stifled in New York, between the intense media environment and the Giants organization.
One guy who didn't stifle him was TC, in the awful Norman WWE event. Had TC actually been the adult in the room, the disciplinarian he claimed to be, he would have benched him then and there and maybe for the next game also. Maybe that would have helped OBJ gain some perspective, re-think his 'I am bigger than the team' mentality. Naahh, likely not. But it would have brought things to a head more quickly.
That failure on his (Tom's) part, and his failure to own up to it afterwards, was the beginning of the end for him.
Give me a break. Odell is who is he is, for better or worse.
TC doing something that day wasn't going alter anything.
Agree with this. Coughlin gets WAY too much shit for this, and it was a hot take at the time.
Two things I remember about that time period. One was Beckham open to being "coached/coachable". I remember interviews with him where he said "I told Coach to stay on me, stay on me coach, I need it..."
And then, in the post game of that debacle, Tom Coughlin said specifically "He needs to learn. He needs to be out there and learn". I've always assumed he meant learn to properly channel that anger, learn how it affects the team negatively and what happens when you take the bait as Beckham did from Norman. And let's not forget, Josh Norman started all that shit. This was a lesson in what not do do and I believe Coughlin was thinking longer term than one game.
But that's just my take. I know some think that symbolizes and old senile man that couldn't reach the young athlete.
We give him a QB he wants and his best friend and he shits all the Giants.
He still gets video clips of him doing trick catches in practice in Cleveland.
Isn't that everything he's ever wanted?
*when he wasn't injured or getting an iv in the locker room
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Idk, if I was a Browns fan, I’d be kinda insulted by that comment lol. Players go to the Browns to die? Thanks a lot Odell. Baker Mayfield being the over sensitive diva that he is, should be a little annoyed too.
Look, they're the worst franchise in football since the original franchise moved to Baltimore - there's truth to what Beckham said.
But it's entertaining to watch him put his foot in his mouth.
He really did put his foot in his mouth. In a big way. Lol. Just amazed that Odell couldnt see how Browns fans, as bad as they’ve been, are still proud and want to win.
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Is anyone at all curious as to why several of the guys traded are claiming they were screwed or lied to and continue to be vexed about it? Isn't that a little unusual? Or are you all just listening to the house siren song that these people were all malcontents who needed to be dumped so the unicorns and rainbows would come out.
Sheesh, HJ, are you still feeling butthurt about Giants' treatment of TC? And, yes, no question, I agree that it should have been Reese first, or both together.
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Beckham also said he felt stifled in New York, between the intense media environment and the Giants organization.
One guy who didn't stifle him was TC, in the awful Norman WWE event. Had TC actually been the adult in the room, the disciplinarian he claimed to be, he would have benched him then and there and maybe for the next game also. Maybe that would have helped OBJ gain some perspective, re-think his 'I am bigger than the team' mentality. Naahh, likely not. But it would have brought things to a head more quickly.
That failure on his (Tom's) part, and his failure to own up to it afterwards, was the beginning of the end for him.
This is Coughlins fault? Holy Stretch.
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is how good of a performance odell put in. He was the reason we had a chance to win it
*when he wasn't injured or getting an iv in the locker room
I'm talking specifically about that Carolina game, but I think you know that.
I think the value was there but I 100% buy this as well. No doubt he would have rather played for SF even if he couldn't get to LA. Still, if you are being a pro nothing close to this is coming out of your mouth.
But your point about his performance up to the point where he lost his head--and the serial apologizers and defenders above who cry about Norman's role--is beside the point. When TC failed to reign him in, this was a big deal in terms of the cohesion of a football team, where teamwork and everyone pulling in the same direction are paramount. It signaled that the HC had variable standards as to who had to play by team rules and what's for the benefit of the team and who did not. That's a significant tell in this game of football. And that is how it played out, as it turned out.
Could be interpreted as him calling them a bunch of losers. Won't be long before they hate him too.
I'm surprised Coughlin didn't nip it in the bud, he was typically pretty good with that type of player.
Except he only gave a shit about saving his job at the time.
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is how good of a performance odell put in. He was the reason we had a chance to win it
ron, as hot a debate topic as Odell is here, no one I can think of, certainly not me, doubts his talent. I could hardly believe the team's good fortune as it became apparent just how good he was.
But your point about his performance up to the point where he lost his head--and the serial apologizers and defenders above who cry about Norman's role--is beside the point. When TC failed to reign him in, this was a big deal in terms of the cohesion of a football team, where teamwork and everyone pulling in the same direction are paramount. It signaled that the HC had variable standards as to who had to play by team rules and what's for the benefit of the team and who did not. That's a significant tell in this game of football. And that is how it played out, as it turned out.
What happened there was unprecedented. So much so that the NFL made a rule about it the following year.
That was not a player being held to a different standard over the course of a season. This was about one game/instance, and one so extraordinary that they changed the rules because of it.
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is how good of a performance odell put in. He was the reason we had a chance to win it
ron, as hot a debate topic as Odell is here, no one I can think of, certainly not me, doubts his talent. I could hardly believe the team's good fortune as it became apparent just how good he was.
But your point about his performance up to the point where he lost his head--and the serial apologizers and defenders above who cry about Norman's role--is beside the point. When TC failed to reign him in, this was a big deal in terms of the cohesion of a football team, where teamwork and everyone pulling in the same direction are paramount. It signaled that the HC had variable standards as to who had to play by team rules and what's for the benefit of the team and who did not. That's a significant tell in this game of football. And that is how it played out, as it turned out.
Plus, as good as he was in that game, one consequence was that he was suspended for a game and had undue focus, including pregame warnings, for the next several games. There may have been an unsportmsanlike or two mixed in as well, but I can't really recall. So, it wasn't all help; some of it was hurt.
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get the anger and vitriol directed at guys like Beckham. he's not some great intellectual, thinker or someone who has anything interesting to say. Like most elite athletes he is basically an uninteresting ignoramus. I would not be interested to spend more than ten minutes with such people. They mostly have nothing interesting to say outside of their perception of sports. And I have met many pro athletes, related to my work and sometimes just out and about. They are interesting because of their athletic exploits, not because of anything they have in their minds.
I don't get that you don't get the anger.
It's like having a former employee, friend, guest, etc. talking trash about you, especially after you gave them what they supposed wanted.
really? it's like a friend trash-talking you. not making too much of this? athletes are fucking idiots for most part. many, like OBJ, are raging narcissists. Who gives a shit what he says. He was great for us while he was here and now he's gone, because the team determined they couldn't win with him. They were probably right. Sayonara. He's just bitching and pining for attention. Ignore it, I say.
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is how good of a performance odell put in. He was the reason we had a chance to win it
ron, as hot a debate topic as Odell is here, no one I can think of, certainly not me, doubts his talent. I could hardly believe the team's good fortune as it became apparent just how good he was.
But your point about his performance up to the point where he lost his head--and the serial apologizers and defenders above who cry about Norman's role--is beside the point. When TC failed to reign him in, this was a big deal in terms of the cohesion of a football team, where teamwork and everyone pulling in the same direction are paramount. It signaled that the HC had variable standards as to who had to play by team rules and what's for the benefit of the team and who did not. That's a significant tell in this game of football. And that is how it played out, as it turned out.
I'f my memory serves, most of his big plays happened after the earhole incident. My memory may be off, looking at the box score for that game he didn't have the monster game I thought he did.
He's still rich enough to travel wherever the hell he wants. Outside of football season, he doesn't even need to live there.
He should be ALL IN on this and as much fun as I'm having watching him implode, indeed giving in to exactly the 'exile to Siberia' he's accusing the Giants of - it's sad.
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is how good of a performance odell put in. He was the reason we had a chance to win it
ron, as hot a debate topic as Odell is here, no one I can think of, certainly not me, doubts his talent. I could hardly believe the team's good fortune as it became apparent just how good he was.
But your point about his performance up to the point where he lost his head--and the serial apologizers and defenders above who cry about Norman's role--is beside the point. When TC failed to reign him in, this was a big deal in terms of the cohesion of a football team, where teamwork and everyone pulling in the same direction are paramount. It signaled that the HC had variable standards as to who had to play by team rules and what's for the benefit of the team and who did not. That's a significant tell in this game of football. And that is how it played out, as it turned out.
I'f my memory serves, most of his big plays happened after the earhole incident. My memory may be off, looking at the box score for that game he didn't have the monster game I thought he did.
He caught the game tying TD, over Norman one on one, with a minute left in the game.
The truth is, Beckham is no good and we do know now that it likely wouldn't have mattered how they handled him.
He is an asshole now just as he was an asshole in 2016 when he was performing at a high level.
Some of us have been saying it the whole time.
On the other hand, and FMiC roasts this point of view, I was pissed off when the boat story before the Packers game came out, and we know how that played out.
What a waste, for team and player to have it go this way.
The truth is, Beckham is no good and we do know now that it likely wouldn't have mattered how they handled him.
He is an asshole now just as he was an asshole in 2016 when he was performing at a high level.
Some of us have been saying it the whole time.
I think if they were able to put together a winning team, these issues would not have surfaced. Or at least be limited to fringe issues like TD celebrations and hotel room videos.
I think you can win with a guy like OBJ if you have the rest of the pieces in place, but he is not a guy you want during a rebuild.
Their real failure was in building the rest of the roster, not in mis-handling OBJ.
Gettlemen said on the day he was hired "I don't want players who want to win, I want players who hate to lose"
He probably followed it up during the 2018 season with a "NOT LIKE THAT!"
This +1 -- I'd be super annoyed as a Browns fan at this stuff .
3. I still like him on the field and I want to see him do well.
if he wanted to stay in NY he had a funny way of showing it..
3. I still like him on the field and I want to see him do well.
100%. exactly my feelings. i hope he does well.. but i'm glad he is off the team.
He's more of an entitled nitwit than anything.
"He's more than just a hole!"
Baker Mayfield
I would not be surprised if one day years from now we will be talking about how he blew is chance to get into the hall of fame.
Is it fair to say that people need to get over people not getting over Beckham?
I would not be surprised if one day years from now we will be talking about how he blew is chance to get into the hall of fame.
I loved Odell when he was here, but to call him a generational talent is offbase. Deandre Hopkins is a better player than him most definetly, and he may only be the 5th best WR in the league. That isn't generational.
I would not be surprised if one day years from now we will be talking about how he blew is chance to get into the hall of fame.
So the thing is, yeah, he was the type of WR that you don't get very often.
However - I don't know how much longer Beckham would've stayed, well, Beckham. I think he does well this year when he's on the field because Cleveland is stacked, but the arrow might be trending downhill.
And who knows where his head is.
The trade was the correct move.
I loved Odell when he was here, but to call him a generational talent is offbase. Deandre Hopkins is a better player than him most definetly, and he may only be the 5th best WR in the league. That isn't generational.
"Most definitely"? Hopkins has certainly managed to stay healthier (especially the last 2 seasons), but they've scored almost an equal amount of TDs despite Beckham playing 36 less games in his career.
My thoughts exactly. What a way to ingratiate yourself to your new fans.
Suspension of OBJ - ( New Window )
3. I still like him on the field and I want to see him do well.
I disagree with #3. I hope he sucks.
I loved Odell when he was here, but to call him a generational talent is offbase.
The truth is that I have never referred to anyone as a generational talent. I really was just parroting what is said here.
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Nobody's making you click these links.
I actually didn't need to click anything - I got a B/R alert on my phone because this fell under "Giants news" for them - which is what I subscribe to as far as football goes along with other general breaking news. I don't subscribe to Browns news or Beckham.
So, I'm guessing for most of us - we didn't really need to actively seek this out. I don't follow him on Twitter, I don't follow him on Instagram and I don't look up anything he does... but I still saw this anyway.
And all the people who point this out are the same ones opening these threads. So, we can play the whole "you care! No YOU care!" game all day long... but if he's going to speak directly about NYG or the trade, I think most people would be at least mildly curious to know what was said.
There's a degree of distance between 1) Beckham said something dopey again I'm curious and 2) he's a raging prick, asshole, and people who defend him are slurping him.
Maybe he's a little too bothersome for some and should be ignored?
especially when the person who calls Beckham a prick and an asshole is such an upstanding gentleman who always treats other posters with respect and civility
I couldn't agree more, he almost seems like an internet odell minus the actual talent.
He's the same fucking moron who calls people "Eli fanboys", who says that Eli was carried by the defense in the SB wins and who has shit on the QB throughout his career.
It would be like me telling people to not curse.
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I loved Odell when he was here, but to call him a generational talent is offbase. Deandre Hopkins is a better player than him most definetly, and he may only be the 5th best WR in the league. That isn't generational.
"Most definitely"? Hopkins has certainly managed to stay healthier (especially the last 2 seasons), but they've scored almost an equal amount of TDs despite Beckham playing 36 less games in his career.
The Texans offense has been atrocious with no quarterback up until recently. DeAndre Hopkins did not drop a pass in 2018. Beckham can barely go a game without a drop.
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Nobody's making you click these links.
I actually didn't need to click anything - I got a B/R alert on my phone because this fell under "Giants news" for them - which is what I subscribe to as far as football goes along with other general breaking news. I don't subscribe to Browns news or Beckham.
So, I'm guessing for most of us - we didn't really need to actively seek this out. I don't follow him on Twitter, I don't follow him on Instagram and I don't look up anything he does... but I still saw this anyway.
And all the people who point this out are the same ones opening these threads. So, we can play the whole "you care! No YOU care!" game all day long... but if he's going to speak directly about NYG or the trade, I think most people would be at least mildly curious to know what was said.
There's a degree of distance between 1) Beckham said something dopey again I'm curious and 2) he's a raging prick, asshole, and people who defend him are slurping him.
Maybe he's a little too bothersome for some and should be ignored?
especially when the person who calls Beckham a prick and an asshole is such an upstanding gentleman who always treats other posters with respect and civility
I couldn't agree more, he almost seems like an internet odell minus the actual talent.
Rover on his FOURTH handle
Les mocking someone with serious injuries and laughing at a person with cancer scare.
Yet both are still here - pathetic.
Les in TO : 7/16/2019 5:16 pm : link
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I went sleigh riding across the street from my house. Had to be 20-30 kids around same age just having fun and we tried knocking whoever walked up the hill. Well I missed a guy, turned around to laugh, and when I looked straight ahead, I went head first into a telephone pole.
I flew into a snow pile where my sister dug me out. I was unconscious for about 10 hours. I was blinded for 6. Spent a week in the hospital to get various tests done. Had to watch the Bears-Giants 1990 playoff game in the hospital with my dad.
this explains a lot
Rover on his FOURTH handle
Les mocking someone with serious injuries and laughing at a person with cancer scare.
Yet both are still here - pathetic.
Weren't you banned for a year, and as an adult no less, AFTER you were banned from the BBI fantasy league AFTER you drove weatherman off BBI?
Les forgets more about football each day than you'll accumulate over your lifetime. Keep up the swell work.
You threatened the site owner and his family! You've had to come back in several reincarnations because the other ones were banned or the criticism to your rampant stupidity kept getting exposed.
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Two biggest assholes on the BBI.
Rover on his FOURTH handle
Les mocking someone with serious injuries and laughing at a person with cancer scare.
Yet both are still here - pathetic.
Weren't you banned for a year, and as an adult no less, AFTER you were banned from the BBI fantasy league AFTER you drove weatherman off BBI?
Les forgets more about football each day than you'll accumulate over your lifetime. Keep up the swell work.
Listen schmuck.... you don’t even have your god damn facts straight. Which is about 99% of the time.
I didn’t Drive weatherman from this site. And he didn’t kick me out of the BBI fantasy league. I quit the league when I dropped my entire team because weatherman made it a free league instead of a money league without consulting anyone in the league. Furthermore once you entered the league(a league in which I kicked your ass every time we played :)...) you went on rampages against Arc, cursing him up and down cause he made fun of your fandom of being a rangers/penguins. Younruined the league with your histrionics every time someone made fun of you, you pathetic turd.
And yes I was banned for a year and I’m not afraid to admit it. If some poster repeatedly called me a faggot and told me to suck a cock every other postand I stick up for myself and get banned so be it. While the other poster didn’t so much get a warning.
But go ahead and trash other posters while you are still here after threatening the owners family and once again on your FOURTH handle. You wanna see the spirit of how many posters are here on their 4th handle? You suck at fandom as much as Les knows football. You’re the same great “fan” who said you rather not see the Giants win any Super Bowls if it meant the Washington Capitals never winning one.
Keep spouting nonsense like you always do.
He's the same fucking moron who calls people "Eli fanboys", who says that Eli was carried by the defense in the SB wins and who has shit on the QB throughout his career.
It would be like me telling people to not curse.
He also laughed at me when I had a cancer scare. He is the biggest joke on the board. Always has been, always will be.
... but BBI said "we got fleeced"
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Two biggest assholes on the BBI.
Rover on his FOURTH handle
Les mocking someone with serious injuries and laughing at a person with cancer scare.
Yet both are still here - pathetic.
Weren't you banned for a year, and as an adult no less, AFTER you were banned from the BBI fantasy league AFTER you drove weatherman off BBI?
Les forgets more about football each day than you'll accumulate over your lifetime. Keep up the swell work.
Listen schmuck.... you don’t even have your god damn facts straight. Which is about 99% of the time.
I didn’t Drive weatherman from this site. And he didn’t kick me out of the BBI fantasy league. I quit the league when I dropped my entire team because weatherman made it a free league instead of a money league without consulting anyone in the league. Furthermore once you entered the league(a league in which I kicked your ass every time we played :)...) you went on rampages against Arc, cursing him up and down cause he made fun of your fandom of being a rangers/penguins. Younruined the league with your histrionics every time someone made fun of you, you pathetic turd.
And yes I was banned for a year and I’m not afraid to admit it. If some poster repeatedly called me a faggot and told me to suck a cock every other post and I stick up for myself and get banned so be it. While the other poster didn’t so much get a warning.
But go ahead and trash other posters while you are still here after threatening the owners family and once again on your FOURTH handle. You wanna see the spirit of how many posters are here on their 4th handle? You suck at fandom as much as Les knows football. You’re the same great “fan” who said you rather not see the Giants win any Super Bowls if it meant the Washington Capitals never winning one.
Keep spouting nonsense like you always do.
You threatened the site owner and his family! You've had to come back in several reincarnations because the other ones were banned or the criticism to your rampant stupidity kept getting exposed.
I'm not getting into any of the specifics of what you said, other than it's pathetic you keep brining it up verbatim to discredit me over and over.
We're talking about 2001 at age 17, I'm 35 and it's 2019, my record speaks for itself.
And this is not my 4th handle.
But since you do bring up the past, I recall when you were winning a few years ago, made a long statement about how this site sucked and you were 'taking your ball' and leaving (which was quite nice), and that same owner all but told you not to let the door hit you, so really fatten, get off your high horse.
Trent
Hudson
Rover
Add them all. Do all the splits you want. It all adds up to 4.
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Two biggest assholes on the BBI.
Rover on his FOURTH handle
Les mocking someone with serious injuries and laughing at a person with cancer scare.
Yet both are still here - pathetic.
Weren't you banned for a year, and as an adult no less, AFTER you were banned from the BBI fantasy league AFTER you drove weatherman off BBI?
Les forgets more about football each day than you'll accumulate over your lifetime. Keep up the swell work.
Listen schmuck.... you don’t even have your god damn facts straight. Which is about 99% of the time.
I didn’t Drive weatherman from this site. And he didn’t kick me out of the BBI fantasy league. I quit the league when I dropped my entire team because weatherman made it a free league instead of a money league without consulting anyone in the league. Furthermore once you entered the league(a league in which I kicked your ass every time we played :)...) you went on rampages against Arc, cursing him up and down cause he made fun of your fandom of being a rangers/penguins. Younruined the league with your histrionics every time someone made fun of you, you pathetic turd.
And yes I was banned for a year and I’m not afraid to admit it. If some poster repeatedly called me a faggot and told me to suck a cock every other postand I stick up for myself and get banned so be it. While the other poster didn’t so much get a warning.
But go ahead and trash other posters while you are still here after threatening the owners family and once again on your FOURTH handle. You wanna see the spirit of how many posters are here on their 4th handle? You suck at fandom as much as Les knows football. You’re the same great “fan” who said you rather not see the Giants win any Super Bowls if it meant the Washington Capitals never winning one.
Keep spouting nonsense like you always do.
Wrong.
1st, don't play victim on this board like Palestine does to Israel. Just look at this thread title.
2nd, I never had ANY such problems on the BBI fantasy baseball league. I got the emails from weatherman commending me for ignoring you and your unprovoked verbal attacks which did lead you to you being banned. I didn't behave in any such manner, I let you hang yourself and look like a fool, which you did.
3rd, I said perhaps I would give away one of the Pens back-back cup victories if it meant the Caps not winning...and really because I like two teams...thats what you use against me. SMH.
Trent
Hudson
Rover
Add them all. Do all the splits you want. It all adds up to 4.
To be fair, Rover is probably not lying - he hasnt had 4 handles - he's probably had way more
Trent
Hudson
Rover
Add them all. Do all the splits you want. It all adds up to 4.
Goldentee was confirmed not to be me, as was JerseyJoe.
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Trent
Hudson
Rover
Add them all. Do all the splits you want. It all adds up to 4.
Goldentee was confirmed not to be me, as was JerseyJoe.
Bullshit.
Not at all.
Fake news lol.
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GoldenTee
Trent
Hudson
Rover
Add them all. Do all the splits you want. It all adds up to 4.
To be fair, Rover is probably not lying - he hasnt had 4 handles - he's probably had way more
Yeh, I was also GmanJoe and BaltimoreJack lol
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is Les talking about respect and civility.
He's the same fucking moron who calls people "Eli fanboys", who says that Eli was carried by the defense in the SB wins and who has shit on the QB throughout his career.
It would be like me telling people to not curse.
He also laughed at me when I had a cancer scare. He is the biggest joke on the board. Always has been, always will be.
I was not aware of this and won't condone it.
Although I have had my own medical issues discussed on this board and I can't recall if it was you whom you used those against me too.
lol!
What fucking record?? One of the most annoying posters on this site? What exactly do you think your record is, asking where to park a fucking car in the NYC metro area? What the percentage of fans was in the stadium each week? What kind of glorious history do you think you have on this site?
And by the way - I did "take my ball" and go home, just as I said. I didn't say it would be permanent- I took a several month break, and actually I usually take a break each year (not coincidentally coinciding with vacations and travel abroad). And yet - I have my same handle since I started here.
Just read them in Trentese.... WHere's Joey when you need him?
I miss Randy!
Wrong.
1st, don't play victim on this board like Palestine does to Israel. Just look at this thread title.
2nd, I never had ANY such problems on the BBI fantasy baseball league. I got the emails from weatherman commending me for ignoring you and your unprovoked verbal attacks which did lead you to you being banned. I didn't behave in any such manner, I let you hang yourself and look like a fool, which you did.
3rd, I said perhaps I would give away one of the Pens back-back cup victories if it meant the Caps not winning...and really because I like two teams...thats what you use against me. SMH.
1. Bullshit. I am not here spouting lies like you did. I told you why I got banned. I told you why I left the BBI league and I didn’t drive Weathrrman from this board like you proclaimed. You’re a flat out liar.
2. You cried and post negative attacks on the BBI yahoo page that cursed everyone up and down the board when they poked fun at you. It was actually weatherman who told everyone to stop picking in YOU cause how sensitive you were and your language would get the board in trouble. When the yahoo league became free due to weatherman’s decision, bigblueshock deopped our. And everyone stopped following their team cause there was no reason too. Try getting facts right. And when weatherman told everyone to stop making fun of you and let you act like petulant child - that’s when I left the league. The league in which I won two years prior. Kicked your ass every time, remember sparky?
3 and Bullshit again- you said you rather never see any of your sports teams win if it meant the Capitals never won.
Now get lost. You came here to start shit with me. Added nothing to the original topic. So dont you play the victim goldenHudsonroverTrent.
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is Les talking about respect and civility.
He's the same fucking moron who calls people "Eli fanboys", who says that Eli was carried by the defense in the SB wins and who has shit on the QB throughout his career.
It would be like me telling people to not curse.
He also laughed at me when I had a cancer scare. He is the biggest joke on the board. Always has been, always will be.
I was not aware of this and won't condone it.
Although I have had my own medical issues discussed on this board and I can't recall if it was you whom you used those against me too.
Well being that I never knew you had any... I couldn’t have.
Damn, you said the name.
Nice knowing you, Bill...
it burned my ass how small he and the other two Cruz and Manningham played so poorly . Putting up with his antics it was one of the best moves DG could have made . I don't
wish bad on him but damn sure glad he is gone . Good Luck
Browns your gonna need it ,
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We're talking about 2001 at age 17, I'm 35 and it's 2019, my record speaks for itself.
What fucking record?? One of the most annoying posters on this site? What exactly do you think your record is, asking where to park a fucking car in the NYC metro area? What the percentage of fans was in the stadium each week? What kind of glorious history do you think you have on this site?
And by the way - I did "take my ball" and go home, just as I said. I didn't say it would be permanent- I took a several month break, and actually I usually take a break each year (not coincidentally coinciding with vacations and travel abroad). And yet - I have my same handle since I started here.
Will that be on your tombstone? 1 handle on BBI?
You’re a loudmouth asshole, always have been and have been called as much by management and posters.
But hey, at least you’ve been consistent for the past few decades.
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Wrong.
1st, don't play victim on this board like Palestine does to Israel. Just look at this thread title.
2nd, I never had ANY such problems on the BBI fantasy baseball league. I got the emails from weatherman commending me for ignoring you and your unprovoked verbal attacks which did lead you to you being banned. I didn't behave in any such manner, I let you hang yourself and look like a fool, which you did.
3rd, I said perhaps I would give away one of the Pens back-back cup victories if it meant the Caps not winning...and really because I like two teams...thats what you use against me. SMH.
1. Bullshit. I am not here spouting lies like you did. I told you why I got banned. I told you why I left the BBI league and I didn’t drive Weathrrman from this board like you proclaimed. You’re a flat out liar.
2. You cried and post negative attacks on the BBI yahoo page that cursed everyone up and down the board when they poked fun at you. It was actually weatherman who told everyone to stop picking in YOU cause how sensitive you were and your language would get the board in trouble. When the yahoo league became free due to weatherman’s decision, bigblueshock deopped our. And everyone stopped following their team cause there was no reason too. Try getting facts right. And when weatherman told everyone to stop making fun of you and let you act like petulant child - that’s when I left the league. The league in which I won two years prior. Kicked your ass every time, remember sparky?
3 and Bullshit again- you said you rather never see any of your sports teams win if it meant the Capitals never won.
Now get lost. You came here to start shit with me. Added nothing to the original topic. So dont you play the victim goldenHudsonroverTrent.
Please. You have to reach back to when I was a teenager to equate your most recent banning with me.
And you’re a liar, Weatherman commended me for ignoring and not responding to your shit stirring provocation.
Just look at the title of this thread, you really think any unbiased person would believe you’re the rational, collected one that doesn’t exist to provoke?
Which board?
Most of my board posts originate from general and sports demographic interests. That’s my stickt, not a loudmouth asshole.
Care to explain why weatherman posted for 2 years after I left the BBI league? Or you just going to admit you are full of shit? Just stop.
And yes Beckham is a raging prick. He’s proven he’s as much as one as you have proven to be a liar.
You’re a loudmouth asshole, always have been and have been called as much by management and posters.
But hey, at least you’ve been consistent for the past few decades.
I don't see my stance towards trolls, dupes and fucking morons changing.
And not surprisingly, that's the way I address you. You can mock a person having one handle, but you have such a noticeable, ridiculous posting style that you're outed within days of coming back with a new one.
Put that into percentiles, Einstein.
If you are going to reference posters who aren't here anymore, you should at least get things attributed to them right.
And he tries to pawn off at being the innocent victim. Total whack job.
I can count on one finger the number of posters who personally threatened eric. so think about that. Out of the thousands of people who have posted on this board, you make up the .0001% of posters who have done that.
Percentages!!
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Please. You have to reach back to when I was a teenager to equate your most recent banning with me.
I can count on one finger the number of posters who personally threatened eric. so think about that. Out of the thousands of people who have posted on this board, you make up the .0001% of posters who have done that.
Percentages!!
Blah blah blah. It’s pathetic you keep reaching back 18 years pulling up stuff as a teenager. You’re the same loudmouth punk you’ve always been. Well done.
Isn’t it time you take your ball and have another vacation?
Care to explain why weatherman posted for 2 years after I left the BBI league? Or you just going to admit you are full of shit? Just stop.
And yes Beckham is a raging prick. He’s proven he’s as much as one as you have proven to be a liar.
Right. Weatherman didn’t ban you from the BBI league for repeated unprovoked flaming. That type of behavior wouldn’t be consistent with getting a ban more recently here long term, or starting a thread as articulate as this one. SMH.
People not threatening the site owner - 99.9999%
Let that sink in - even if it is slowly....
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So who the fuck would believe you?
Care to explain why weatherman posted for 2 years after I left the BBI league? Or you just going to admit you are full of shit? Just stop.
And yes Beckham is a raging prick. He’s proven he’s as much as one as you have proven to be a liar.
Right. Weatherman didn’t ban you from the BBI league for repeated unprovoked flaming. That type of behavior wouldn’t be consistent with getting a ban more recently here long term, or starting a thread as articulate as this one. SMH.
Alright schmuck. I’ll slow this down for you so you can understand.
1. Weatherman made it a free money league where people dropped out. And people stopped following it cause there was no point.
2. You acted like a nut when people use to tease you.
3. Weatherman told me in emails to stop making fun of you and him and I went back and forth about how bad the league got.
4. I decided to leave the league by dropping my team. The league got beyond stupid especially with your histrionics.
5. He then deleted my team cause I quit.
So whatever he told you is not true. And nor did I force him out of this forum either. Like you said already. So everything you said is a flat out lie. Not cut the shit out.
I don’t care what the hell people think cause everyone knows your on at least your FOURTH handle. So why should anyone believe your lies?
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So who the fuck would believe you?
Care to explain why weatherman posted for 2 years after I left the BBI league? Or you just going to admit you are full of shit? Just stop.
And yes Beckham is a raging prick. He’s proven he’s as much as one as you have proven to be a liar.
Right. Weatherman didn’t ban you from the BBI league for repeated unprovoked flaming. That type of behavior wouldn’t be consistent with getting a ban more recently here long term, or starting a thread as articulate as this one. SMH.
Alright schmuck. I’ll slow this down for you so you can understand.
1. Weatherman made it a free money league where people dropped out. And people stopped following it cause there was no point.
2. You acted like a nut when people use to tease you.
3. Weatherman told me in emails to stop making fun of you and him and I went back and forth about how bad the league got.
4. I decided to leave the league by dropping my team. The league got beyond stupid especially with your histrionics.
5. He then deleted my team cause I quit.
So whatever he told you is not true. And nor did I force him out of this forum either. Like you said already. So everything you said is a flat out lie. Not cut the shit out.
I don’t care what the hell people think cause everyone knows your on at least your FOURTH handle. So why should anyone believe your lies?
this rover may be everything you say, but you need help man...
Now come back with something that has nothing to do with anything but to insult or whatever you always do “...”
Bang that drum buddy...
That's awfully weak to sith here cheerleading from the sidelines while two guys go at it and then try to take a shot.
It's really fucking weak on your part
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LOL a lot which could be helpful to your cause...
That's awfully weak to sith here cheerleading from the sidelines while two guys go at it and then try to take a shot.
It's really fucking weak on your part
but its ok on your part though
whomp...
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LOL a lot which could be helpful to your cause...
That's awfully weak to sith here cheerleading from the sidelines while two guys go at it and then try to take a shot.
It's really fucking weak on your part
but its ok on your part though
I call it like I see it and trent got his ass handed to him. You carry on Sally...Rah! Rah!
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So who the fuck would believe you?
Care to explain why weatherman posted for 2 years after I left the BBI league? Or you just going to admit you are full of shit? Just stop.
And yes Beckham is a raging prick. He’s proven he’s as much as one as you have proven to be a liar.
Right. Weatherman didn’t ban you from the BBI league for repeated unprovoked flaming. That type of behavior wouldn’t be consistent with getting a ban more recently here long term, or starting a thread as articulate as this one. SMH.
Alright schmuck. I’ll slow this down for you so you can understand.
1. Weatherman made it a free money league where people dropped out. And people stopped following it cause there was no point.
2. You acted like a nut when people use to tease you.
3. Weatherman told me in emails to stop making fun of you and him and I went back and forth about how bad the league got.
4. I decided to leave the league by dropping my team. The league got beyond stupid especially with your histrionics.
5. He then deleted my team cause I quit.
So whatever he told you is not true. And nor did I force him out of this forum either. Like you said already. So everything you said is a flat out lie. Not cut the shit out.
I don’t care what the hell people think cause everyone knows your on at least your FOURTH handle. So why should anyone believe your lies?
Lol you do care which is why you are so animated.
If we were to believe you, then you basically at best pulled a Fat Msn in Charlotte, taking your ball and quitting the league.
Reminds of our president when Steph Curry refused to go to the WH and our current POTUS claimed he wasn’t invited.
4th handle?
I changed my name from Hudson to Rover, keeping the same account, so that doesn’t count.
Everybody knows you’re an off balanced loud mouth (look at the title of this thread and the agitated tone) who just got back from a long term ban, whose disputing he got banned from another league for similar behavior...all the while attempting to discredit me by going back to 2001. # of bans since 2011 for me < # of bans for you.
/Night bud.
Your so infatuated with this fucking debunked BBI league that you keep mentioning it over and over again without a fucking shred of truth to it. I whooped your ass in the league time and time again. I left the league because you whined and cried like the bitch you were. Now go change your handle again, and go look at the splits of people who give a fuck about it.
There’s one poster here who threatened Eric’s family and you have the balls to call out others? You’re trash buddy. Always have been, always will be.
Here it is!
There are a lot of shitty posters here, but Trent has to be near the top. And newsflash, the splits say its true as well!
But I am sure he will back it up with something about a dumb baseball league he couldnt compete it or something Weatherman supposedly said.
I changed my name from Hudson to Rover, keeping the same account, so that doesn’t count.
But hey, maybe that doesn't count because it was when the douchenozzle was a teenager? heees jusakid fer chissakes!!
And we shouldn't even be debating if it is just hudson or Rover - there were more iterations in there (even excluding Trent). That being the case - why are you still talking about bannings? You have literally changed handles multiple times. Are you really fucking denying that?
RESPECKT!
TIA
a fag or something the SPLC sent me a warning message
about nevermind ...
Hey there. I'm doing fine; just had my fill of posting here. Wasn't getting much out of it except aggravation at the bullshit people spout here. And the switch of opinions isn't surprising. If he were still a Giant all the people knocking him would still be defending him. Beckham didn't just become an asshole in March. But being rational isn't the same as being a fan.
Anyway, I'll probably be back for the mock draft on April. But otherwise, I'm out. Enjoy the season.
Plus I want to hear your take on the Lamar Jackson experiment and how they will work in the kid from penn state.
Anyway, I'll probably be back for the mock draft on April. But otherwise, I'm out. Enjoy the season.
I hope you change your mind. I know there is a lot of crap posted here, but you always offer good content/opinions and we are all smarter for it.