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I like all of this negativity towards the Giants.....

Britt in VA : 8/20/2019 1:11 pm
Been a while since they've gotten dragged through the mud and piled on like this.

Not that they haven't deserved it in the past couple of years, but we've been so bad it just felt like people didn't care.... But something has awoken in the national spotlight aspect, just the sheer animosity from the media, talking heads, fans, etc.... The vitriol towards the franchise, ownership, management, and now the players.... It's excessive, I think. And I like it.

Good team building exercise. Us against the world. I like it when the Giants play like that. Coughlin used to be a master of motivation with that stuff. Parcells too. Hopefully Shurmur can use some of this stuff to light a fire.

And yeah, I know the usual suspects will jump on this thread and say "you think these guys care about that stuff? Culture and lockerroom is bullshit, etc...."

Yeah, I do believe it matters, and I do believe they are taking note.
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christian : 8/21/2019 6:51 pm : link
Top 10 picks who aren't part of the conventional (and clearly flawed and poorly informed) draft projections evoke all kinds of negative reactions every year.

Mitch Trabisky got bood by the home town draft audience and at a Bulls game later that week, just as a recent reference.

I guess my definition of brutal and what's galvanizing for a team is just much higher.

To me Jones got panned, and 2 pre-season games later is well regarded and well covered in the press.
RE: Googs  
Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2019 6:53 pm : link
In comment 14538572 crick n NC said:
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You don't get along with FMIC we all know. No reason to add more fuel to an already burning fire.


When crap like this stops...


Not an..
FatMan in Charlotte : 8:20 am : link : reply
unhinged hater.

Just a pretty dim bulb with a consistently contrarian take.
DG’s so called bad vet FA moves in 2018  
djm : 8/21/2019 6:55 pm : link
Are so overstated in my view. Anyone want to give solder back it you could do it over again? Didn’t think so. So he’s overpaid. So was Oliver Vernon and all we heard on BBI was how deadly that contract would turn out. Ok the stewart move didn’t work but cmon guys it was a stupid one year deal and really done more for locker room glue than anything else. Same with the terrible left guard with the hard to spell last name. You’re gonna kill DG for that shit? One year vet MIN type deals? What about the half dozen young player building blocks from last year? Or the good early buzz on this year’s class?

No one is perfect certainly not DG but the early returns are good. As usual the media has gone out of their way to cast DG in an unfavorable light. And why? Because DG basically told many of them to fuck off, much like coughlin did. Much like so many in this town have done only to be sabotaged or cut open at every turn by the media. It happens every where but it’s more pronounced here with the giants. I’ve never be convinced otherwised.
RE: ...  
djm : 8/21/2019 6:56 pm : link
In comment 14538575 christian said:
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Top 10 picks who aren't part of the conventional (and clearly flawed and poorly informed) draft projections evoke all kinds of negative reactions every year.

Mitch Trabisky got bood by the home town draft audience and at a Bulls game later that week, just as a recent reference.

I guess my definition of brutal and what's galvanizing for a team is just much higher.

To me Jones got panned, and 2 pre-season games later is well regarded and well covered in the press.


I didn’t know that about Mitch and Chicago. Interesting.
RE: RE: Screw the media .  
djm : 8/21/2019 6:59 pm : link
In comment 14538413 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14538405 Bluesbreaker said:


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The Barkley and Jones
picks the slaughtered both decisions and It looks like
he has proved them wrong on both ,



Jones has proven something by playing well in meaningless exhibitions? Hoooo-k.


Jones hasn’t proven a thing other than show he has legit NFL potential. That in itself shuts a lot of people up who insisted he was hot garbage on a good day.
RE: RE: RE: Here is my actual take`  
djm : 8/21/2019 7:05 pm : link
In comment 14538550 ron mexico said:
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And I'd be happy to compare brainpans with you any time


Getts is a mixed bag for me
ron mexico : 7/27/2019 8:47 pm : link
In the positives:
Drafting looks very good (this is very dependent on Jones working out)

Negatives:
Free agent signings
The assessment that last years team could compete

and then there are the trades

I love the zeiter trade and I get the OBJ trade. It's way too early to make a call here.


I will add that the draft
ron mexico : 7/28/2019 5:26 pm : link
Is the most important part of team building, alongside picking the right HC.

So I'm glad it's that area he is doing well in.



Any fan that rails against the GM because said GM “assessed that last year’s team could compete” is fucking weird. Sorry, it’s true. You’re not only blaming the GM for lip service but WTF do you expect any GM to say in that spot? “We’re gonna suck, everyone.”

You’re not alone, dozens of fans have bashed DG for this. And you’re all nuts for doing so.



Sigh

For the 10th time I'm talking about his actions not his words


His actions show a clear resetting of the roster. The guy nuked this shit from orbit.
RE: RE: Googs  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/21/2019 7:05 pm : link
In comment 14538576 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 14538572 crick n NC said:


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You don't get along with FMIC we all know. No reason to add more fuel to an already burning fire.



When crap like this stops...


Not an..
FatMan in Charlotte : 8:20 am : link : reply
unhinged hater.

Just a pretty dim bulb with a consistently contrarian take.


LOL. It is like you felt left out so you had to make an appearance.

Of course, not discussing the topic at hand as usual.

The long troll....
RE: RE: RE: RE: Here is my actual take`  
ron mexico : 8/21/2019 7:08 pm : link
In comment 14538586 djm said:
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In comment 14538550 ron mexico said:


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In comment 14538544 djm said:


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In comment 14537777 ron mexico said:


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And I'd be happy to compare brainpans with you any time


Getts is a mixed bag for me
ron mexico : 7/27/2019 8:47 pm : link
In the positives:
Drafting looks very good (this is very dependent on Jones working out)

Negatives:
Free agent signings
The assessment that last years team could compete

and then there are the trades

I love the zeiter trade and I get the OBJ trade. It's way too early to make a call here.


I will add that the draft
ron mexico : 7/28/2019 5:26 pm : link
Is the most important part of team building, alongside picking the right HC.

So I'm glad it's that area he is doing well in.



Any fan that rails against the GM because said GM “assessed that last year’s team could compete” is fucking weird. Sorry, it’s true. You’re not only blaming the GM for lip service but WTF do you expect any GM to say in that spot? “We’re gonna suck, everyone.”

You’re not alone, dozens of fans have bashed DG for this. And you’re all nuts for doing so.



Sigh

For the 10th time I'm talking about his actions not his words



His actions show a clear resetting of the roster. The guy nuked this shit from orbit.


His actions from midseason on, yes

I'm talking about what he did in the beginning of the 2018 season
RE: To be fair  
bw in dc : 8/21/2019 7:12 pm : link
In comment 14538568 djm said:
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I tend to overreact to any giants overt negativity. I admit it. Who we kidding.... but I still believe the giants get more heat than most teams. Even when they win it always seems like they shocked the world. When in doubt, bash the giants first and ask questions later seems to be the common theme.


I think every team is a distant second to Dallas. And that's been the case - nationally - for decades.
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christian : 8/21/2019 7:16 pm : link
These discussions typically go sideways when there's mitigating reason to defend every move a GM made.

Isn't it much more likely and honestly more credible, if Gettleman made some good, some average and some bad moves last year? And that a year and change into job no moves can really be declared extraordinary or tragedies?

I read a ton about the Giants and read way too much BBI, and I'd say more than the majority of content and opinions fit into the above perspective.

If Eric took a poll today, what do guys think the percentage would be of people who think Gettleman has done an awful, average, good, or great job so far?
I think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/21/2019 7:23 pm : link
more people would say awful than good, which is part of the reason these discussions exist.

It doesn't match with reality
RE: I think..  
christian : 8/21/2019 7:25 pm : link
In comment 14538601 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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more people would say awful than good, which is part of the reason these discussions exist.

It doesn't match with reality


I'd guess it'd be 60-40 positive to negative.
RE: RE: RE: Googs  
Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2019 7:25 pm : link
In comment 14538587 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14538576 Jimmy Googs said:


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In comment 14538572 crick n NC said:


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You don't get along with FMIC we all know. No reason to add more fuel to an already burning fire.



When crap like this stops...


Not an..
FatMan in Charlotte : 8:20 am : link : reply
unhinged hater.

Just a pretty dim bulb with a consistently contrarian take.



LOL. It is like you felt left out so you had to make an appearance.

Of course, not discussing the topic at hand as usual.

The long troll....


All you did was take the topic and convert it into a list of posters that bother you.

short troll...
Bar signal  
dep026 : 8/21/2019 7:28 pm : link
Beams loud!!!
RE: I think..  
Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2019 7:30 pm : link
In comment 14538601 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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more people would say awful than good, which is part of the reason these discussions exist.

It doesn't match with reality


No it wouldn’t say that
The largest bucket would say good but need to see  
Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2019 7:32 pm : link
how Jones turns out.

Then next largest is undecided

Then smallest group would say bad

Hey Googs..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/21/2019 7:38 pm : link
this was my first post on this thread:

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The Media often embraces teams that have been bad thinking they'd finally be consistently good.

They've embraced the Browns this year. The Jags last year. The Raiders two years ago. They almost always latch onto a team based on potential and prop them up before they've ever done a damn thing.

Heck, the Jets are getting a lot of love this year too. For years, they kept saying the Cardinals were going to break through. There's consistently been a lot of preseason optimism for the Lions under Stafford.

It isn't like the Media never does this.


I know it is a little wordy for your tastes and it actually discusses the topic, but I know that's out of your wheelhouse.

You should stay in your lane as a guy proudly wearing a badge as a terrible poster and flashing it whenever possible. That's your wheelhouse, Ace
It took you no time whatsoever  
Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2019 7:45 pm : link
to jump on your soapbox calling out the groups of contrarians, trolls, DG haters in your view.

Even creating a named list for Christ sake. Like who the hell do you think you are creating some type of black-ball list?

And when one Ron Mexico jumps back at you for doing so with facts... then he is basically called an idiot by you.

Just stop...
I was told..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/21/2019 7:50 pm : link
it was "maybe 1 or 2" people who dislike Gettleman.

Are you that inept at reading to not understand why I listed several posters?

And that's a rhetorical question.
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christian : 8/21/2019 8:09 pm : link
I don't want to interrupt your spat, but if that is in reference to what I posted on this thread, I said there were only a few posters who go in circles criticizing Gettleman, meaning no matter what he does, they change their stance or go out of their way just to oppose what he did.
No, you listed posters that you hate and associated that  
Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2019 8:16 pm : link
with your view that they also hate Gettleman. One even saw your nonsense and replied that you’re off base with your drama queen embellishments.

Shouldn’t you be on the current OBJ thread that you joined with the sole purpose to describe how you hate a couple of other posters? I must have missed how you joined that one for some other football talking purpose.

naming a list of posters like that is classless, and even thinking you should be the one to determine it is egregious

Lol  
dep026 : 8/21/2019 8:21 pm : link
Ignorance is bliss.
It..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/21/2019 8:31 pm : link
is news to me that I hate Greg in LI!

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No, you listed posters that you hate and associated that
Jimmy Googs : 8:16 pm : link : reply
with your view that they also hate Gettleman.


You like to associate me with terms like hate, goosestepping and a lot of things that cross the line. At least know what the fuck you are talking about.

Greg thinks Gettleman is doing a terrible job. He'd own up to that. How does that equate to me hating him?

I think you will be at a loss to explain that - but you sure took a lot of care to make assumptions, Boss.
Screaming at posters, calling out others with minority  
Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2019 8:42 pm : link
views, contrarians if they disagree with you, exaggerating to create sensational effects, making lists

Sorry, if your softer side isn't coming thru...
Great..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/21/2019 8:47 pm : link
another post that gives the temperature of other posters but doesn't say a fucking thing about the topic.

Awesome work.

So I take it you have no explanation to describe my hatred of Greg.
I can  
crick n NC : 8/21/2019 8:51 pm : link
See I helped out greatly!
RE: I can  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/21/2019 8:53 pm : link
In comment 14538682 crick n NC said:
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See I helped out greatly!


I chuckled at this. Soon you'll laugh - if you haven't gotten brain damage from banging your head against a wall already!!
Did you give your explanation that Ron Mexico  
Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2019 8:58 pm : link
showed up on your list? Anybody else that shouldn't be on it but somehow made your most recent call out sheet.

Is your list even finished as it was just off the top of your head...surely there are others that you have pondered that hate and criticize DG's every move at this point.

Sounds like Greg gets a get out of jail free pass and a christmas card from you this holiday season.
And it still  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/21/2019 8:59 pm : link
sounds like someone is fucking clueless and prancing around proudly shouting it.

And still not discussing the topic.

Color me fucking shocked.
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crick n NC : 8/21/2019 9:01 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 8/21/2019 9:03 pm : link
I still don't really get the endgame here with all of these armchair diagnosis' and sarcastic remarks regarding other posters' behavior. Is it any more conducive to football discussion than the behavior that is continually brought up as "classless" or disagreeable?

Everyone here can defend themselves. They don't need the white knight routine on a daily basis.

If the way FMiC handles himself here bugs you that much, maybe just ignore it and let those posters he's calling such mean and offensive names handle their own business. I'm sure they'll be okay. We've all been called much worse things than idiots, I'm sure.
RE: And it still  
dep026 : 8/21/2019 9:04 pm : link
In comment 14538696 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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sounds like someone is fucking clueless and prancing around proudly shouting it.

And still not discussing the topic.

Color me fucking shocked.


Hey I’ve been ringing this tune for over a year about him. Get your own material!!!

(This is another argument you and I are having btw :)
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arcarsenal : 8/21/2019 9:06 pm : link
In fact, posters like bw are more than content to fight their own battles - he'll be the first guy to tell you that. He enjoys the discourse.
The only topic of concern  
Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2019 9:07 pm : link
is you stopping the ridiculous berating of others. Its ponderous at this point that you don't see it being out of line tossing out fucksticks at the drop of a hat.
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Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2019 9:16 pm : link
In comment 14538701 arcarsenal said:
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I still don't really get the endgame here with all of these armchair diagnosis' and sarcastic remarks regarding other posters' behavior. Is it any more conducive to football discussion than the behavior that is continually brought up as "classless" or disagreeable?

Everyone here can defend themselves. They don't need the white knight routine on a daily basis.

If the way FMiC handles himself here bugs you that much, maybe just ignore it and let those posters he's calling such mean and offensive names handle their own business. I'm sure they'll be okay. We've all been called much worse things than idiots, I'm sure.


I think you know the end game is a better result. And it certainly shouldn't matter who steps up and says anything with regards to someone being offensive.
You know, this thread was pretty benign....  
Britt in VA : 8/21/2019 9:18 pm : link
Hey, it's us against the world, maybe we can use the negativity as motivation, sort of thread.... Pretty tame stuff.

Where this thread went sideways is when the usual suspects had to come on here and convince all of us that the negative attention is figments of our imagination.

For what reason? I'm thinking to be contrarian, as Fatman says. Or trolling perhaps? Or maybe to prove they are the smartest in the room, so they think?

But when I re-read my op, I'm still trying to figure out why somebody would vehemently argue and disagree with it, but whatever.
Can anybody agree on anything on this site?  
Britt in VA : 8/21/2019 9:20 pm : link
Or do you want to argue everything?
Britt - of course the Giants have gotten negative press  
Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2019 9:26 pm : link
and it is clearly going to be aligned to how negatively they performed. However, they get a lot of good press as well when the reverse happens. Sans Cris Carter, the media has been very favorable on Daniel Jones and his summer performance in camp and games as an example.

So like many things, it goes both ways
RE: Can anybody agree on anything on this site?  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/21/2019 9:28 pm : link
In comment 14538722 Britt in VA said:
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Or do you want to argue everything?


The one thing we should all agree on is the ton of negative attention we have received over this offseason. It is blindingly obvious, although it seems to have dissipated a bit. I think the Cards are getting the bulk of the "national joke" attention thrusted onto them.
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arcarsenal : 8/21/2019 9:29 pm : link
In comment 14538714 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 14538701 arcarsenal said:


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I still don't really get the endgame here with all of these armchair diagnosis' and sarcastic remarks regarding other posters' behavior. Is it any more conducive to football discussion than the behavior that is continually brought up as "classless" or disagreeable?

Everyone here can defend themselves. They don't need the white knight routine on a daily basis.

If the way FMiC handles himself here bugs you that much, maybe just ignore it and let those posters he's calling such mean and offensive names handle their own business. I'm sure they'll be okay. We've all been called much worse things than idiots, I'm sure.



I think you know the end game is a better result. And it certainly shouldn't matter who steps up and says anything with regards to someone being offensive.


I know that you may want the endgame to be a better result, but I'm surprised you think that namecalling or arguments on a football board would just cease or lessen dramatically as a result of any of this.

BBI has been like this for as long as I've been here... which isn't necessarily as long as some of the old timers, but it's been over 13 years now of posting here and I don't think we're ever going to have a cushy little Xanadu here where no one ever argues or throws around insults, etc.

I think there are certain insults and things that can cross a line even here... but calling people fucksticks, dipshits or whatever... who cares. We've heard it all and have heard it all since we were kids.

I've been called those things here at times, too. I don't really take it personally or care much - I can handle fighting my battles on my own without help. I think most of the guys here would probably say they're more than capable of doing the same.

None of us post about football 100% of the time; but obviously that should always be our goal when the topics are, indeed, football-related. Arguments are going to happen. Name calling is going to happen. Most of it is harmless - I've never really thought of FMIC's insults towards others as line crossing or truly classless. Sometimes people here really do cross lines by making things super personal - but for the most part, I really don't think it's a big deal, and I don't think anything on this particular thread was bad.

Certainly not to the point where we need to rehash it all each day on a new thread.

Just my .02, though.
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arcarsenal : 8/21/2019 9:34 pm : link
For what it's worth, I think there are just posters here who continually seek out the negative angle in anything we discuss and then hide behind the guise of "objectivity" or rationality when they're really not being fair and generally aren't fair. Those people kind of stick in the craw of others - and admittedly, they can be bothersome to me as well.

I'm not here to tell other people how to be a fan. But some posters have very clear agendas and will only show up when they can complain about the Giants or berate Gettleman.

We've sucked for a long time now, and criticism is warranted. I don't think any of us would disagree on that. But, it's like some people just won't accept a single shred of optimism and absolutely refuse to see things any other way than their own. Everything sucks, everything is the worst, the Giants will never be good again, Gettleman is clueless.... on and on.
RE: You know, this thread was pretty benign....  
Les in TO : 8/21/2019 9:35 pm : link
In comment 14538717 Britt in VA said:
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Hey, it's us against the world, maybe we can use the negativity as motivation, sort of thread.... Pretty tame stuff.

Where this thread went sideways is when the usual suspects had to come on here and convince all of us that the negative attention is figments of our imagination.

For what reason? I'm thinking to be contrarian, as Fatman says. Or trolling perhaps? Or maybe to prove they are the smartest in the room, so they think?

But when I re-read my op, I'm still trying to figure out why somebody would vehemently argue and disagree with it, but whatever.
did you want debate or discussion or did you just want everybody to say “you’re right” and amen? Your thread is premised on the notion that everyone has been highly critical of the Giants moves, which is debatable.
I read you  
Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2019 9:36 pm : link
and do think some behavior can change because it simply isnt hard
RE: You know, this thread was pretty benign....  
Les in TO : 8/21/2019 9:41 pm : link
In comment 14538717 Britt in VA said:
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Hey, it's us against the world, maybe we can use the negativity as motivation, sort of thread.... Pretty tame stuff.

Where this thread went sideways is when the usual suspects had to come on here and convince all of us that the negative attention is figments of our imagination.

For what reason? I'm thinking to be contrarian, as Fatman says. Or trolling perhaps? Or maybe to prove they are the smartest in the room, so they think?

But when I re-read my op, I'm still trying to figure out why somebody would vehemently argue and disagree with it, but whatever.
as well, you claim your topic was benign but in your opening post you take a pre emptive attack against the “usual suspects” who are cynical about the us vs the world mentality.
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Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2019 9:42 pm : link
In comment 14538736 arcarsenal said:
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I'm not here to tell other people how to be a fan. But some posters have very clear agendas and will only show up when they can complain about the Giants or berate Gettleman.



But if they indeed have an agenda and that is how they want to be a fan then so what? Maybe take your own advice from the post above that you wrote and treat these folks as harmless as well...
RE: RE: You know, this thread was pretty benign....  
arcarsenal : 8/21/2019 9:45 pm : link
In comment 14538739 Les in TO said:
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In comment 14538717 Britt in VA said:


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Hey, it's us against the world, maybe we can use the negativity as motivation, sort of thread.... Pretty tame stuff.

Where this thread went sideways is when the usual suspects had to come on here and convince all of us that the negative attention is figments of our imagination.

For what reason? I'm thinking to be contrarian, as Fatman says. Or trolling perhaps? Or maybe to prove they are the smartest in the room, so they think?

But when I re-read my op, I'm still trying to figure out why somebody would vehemently argue and disagree with it, but whatever.

did you want debate or discussion or did you just want everybody to say “you’re right” and amen? Your thread is premised on the notion that everyone has been highly critical of the Giants moves, which is debatable.


It's not, really - the Giants got crushed by a lot of people for picking Jones where they did.

Not everyone, but that's never going to be entirely true on really any topic.

It's not wrong to say that there's been a lot of negative press regarding this team recently.

Yes, there are some people who did like the Jones pick. Not everyone universally killed it. But there's been enough of it that the premise of the thread is most certainly fair.

I think the majority perception of the Giants' offseason through various media outlets, etc. has been negative.

It seems like maybe it's lightened a tad after people got a look at Jones and realized that maybe he's not this useless pile of garbage that they thought he'd be and that maybe there's something there... but I do think the general tune towards NYG has been more of the negative variety.. and some of the hot takes on Jones from draft night were excessive.

You'd think we'd all want to rally behind this team; but I get the impression that some people are rooting for their opinions to be validated more than they're rooting for NYG to get out of this dark, shitty hole they've been stuck in for the majority of the last 6-7 years.
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arcarsenal : 8/21/2019 9:49 pm : link
In comment 14538745 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 14538736 arcarsenal said:


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I'm not here to tell other people how to be a fan. But some posters have very clear agendas and will only show up when they can complain about the Giants or berate Gettleman.





But if they indeed have an agenda and that is how they want to be a fan then so what? Maybe take your own advice from the post above that you wrote and treat these folks as harmless as well...


How many people did I call out and argue with on this thread?

I mostly do take my own advice.

Perfect, I am not... sometimes I take the bait and argue points that I think are poor or don't make sense. But look at my first post on this thread... it's just my opinion on the Giants. It has nothing to do with any other poster. I didn't criticize anyone. The 2nd post was about Francesa.

And then my third was part of this current discussion.
RE: RE: RE: You know, this thread was pretty benign....  
Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2019 9:58 pm : link
In comment 14538750 arcarsenal said:
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You'd think we'd all want to rally behind this team; but I get the impression that some people are rooting for their opinions to be validated more than they're rooting for NYG to get out of this dark, shitty hole they've been stuck in for the majority of the last 6-7 years.


Probably some are rooting for their opinions to be validated but again...so what?

Sure as hell there are exponentially more rooting for the team.
RE: Can anybody agree on anything on this site?  
christian : 8/21/2019 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14538722 Britt in VA said:
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Or do you want to argue everything?


Not everyone is going to agree with your opinion, and not everyone thinks the Giants are victims of the mean press and the mean fans.

The "contrarians" thing is a little dopey. It might seem contrarian -- but some reasonably minded posters would actually like to participate in fact-based discussions, not hyperbolic generalizations.

When you post on this site, aren't you looking for conversation, debate, new information, and dialogue?

I don't think Jones was any more targeted in the media than Mitch Trubisky or Donovan McNabb, or really any other QB who was drafted before what was predicted.

Now two weeks into the pre-season, the New York and football press is pretty impressed by the kid. That's fantastic.

But man, sometimes I feel like a couple of you feel defending Gettleman or the Giants at large on BBI is actually going to have real world consequences.

It's just a place to swap opinions and hopefully some fact based knowledge about football, it's not actually real.
RE: RE: RE: .  
Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2019 10:04 pm : link
In comment 14538752 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14538745 Jimmy Googs said:


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In comment 14538736 arcarsenal said:


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I'm not here to tell other people how to be a fan. But some posters have very clear agendas and will only show up when they can complain about the Giants or berate Gettleman.





But if they indeed have an agenda and that is how they want to be a fan then so what? Maybe take your own advice from the post above that you wrote and treat these folks as harmless as well...



How many people did I call out and argue with on this thread?

I mostly do take my own advice.

Perfect, I am not... sometimes I take the bait and argue points that I think are poor or don't make sense. But look at my first post on this thread... it's just my opinion on the Giants. It has nothing to do with any other poster. I didn't criticize anyone. The 2nd post was about Francesa.

And then my third was part of this current discussion.


sorry didn't mean to imply that specifically to you. It was moreso that you stated it as a general rule earlier and I was repeating it in that context.

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