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Big Blue '56 : 8/20/2019 2:37 pm
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This is not what I said....just so we’re clear. I also said I was surprised I got drafted number one. Then was talking about the flaws in evaluating QB’s. Where I brought up winning being important. Reporters and media will do anything to come up with a click bait story. Heard nothing but good things and wish nothing but the best for Daniel.




I thought it deserved it’s own thread given how his remarks might have gotten buried in the other Mayfield thread.

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Big Blue '56 : 8/20/2019 2:39 pm : link
had the tweet
Sure it wasn’t Mayfield  
dep026 : 8/20/2019 2:39 pm : link
We all believe you...
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arcarsenal : 8/20/2019 2:40 pm : link
Someone said he was under the impression his comments wouldn't be made public. I think this caught him off guard and now he's trying to walk it back.
A little advice for Mayfield...  
That’s Gold, Jerry : 8/20/2019 2:41 pm : link
since he has been caught saying other things also. Shut the FUCK UP! Really, just keep your big mouth shut. Walk away, don't be on Twitter...if you want to be like anyone, be like Eli who, by the way, was not a big winner at Ole Miss but still went on to win 2 Super Bowls.

The Browns are a shit show and an explosion waiting to happen!
Not to defend Mayfield  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2019 2:43 pm : link
but I was surprised Jones was drafted #6 overall too.

I'd say maybe 75% of the world who cares about the NFL draft was surprised he went #6, so he's not wrong about that little piece even if it's bad form to say so.

now the reasons and W/L being a major part of eval I don't agree with, but that piece no argument.
I can't wait for the recording to come out  
Rudy5757 : 8/20/2019 2:45 pm : link
but at least he back tracked off of the comments like he should have. DJ handled it the best and is very Eli like in his response.
RE: Not to defend Mayfield  
RC in MD : 8/20/2019 2:46 pm : link
In comment 14537093 pjcas18 said:
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but I was surprised Jones was drafted #6 overall too.

I'd say maybe 75% of the world who cares about the NFL draft was surprised he went #6, so he's not wrong about that little piece even if it's bad form to say so.

now the reasons and W/L being a major part of eval I don't agree with, but that piece no argument.


I was pretty upset that Jones was drafted #6 as well...even though a bad feeling in my gut told me that he would be as we approached #6 pick. With that being said, he's proven that he can be a gamer, and I've grown to really like him as our QB. Mayfield is a bit of a tool...I think we don't need this incident to confirm that.
I assume GQ interview  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/20/2019 2:46 pm : link
Was before DJ8 went viral and lit up preseason XD
I read the article  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/20/2019 2:49 pm : link
The closest defense I can give to Mayfield is that he was surprised that the Giants drafted Jones, but that doesn't mean that he thinks Jones is a bad or unworthy football player. It just means, given where a lot of the mocks had him, that he was surprised at the turn of events.

Then next, his comments about teams over thinking it was in response to a new question from the interviewer. It wasn't about Jones. The interviewer asked him (yes, as a result of the Jones comment) a general question about QB evaluation, and Mayfield made comments agnostic of Daniel Jones about how teams over think it.

In that sense, I suppose it's possible the comments were taken out of context. And there really is no logical reason to for Mayfield to care at all about Jones.

But still, just shut up.
Annapolis Mike strikes again  
gidiefor : Mod : 8/20/2019 2:53 pm : link
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He’s backtracking.  
Brown Recluse : 8/20/2019 2:54 pm : link
He said what he said and it was dumb. Period.

And I don't care what fans do. Baker is not a fan, he's a professional. Players shouldn't be criticizing other players. Its unprofessional, makes him look stupid, and creates the sort of attention and distractions that no team needs.

He is full of shit  
ZogZerg : 8/20/2019 2:55 pm : link
I don't believe him.

RE: He’s backtracking.  
RC in MD : 8/20/2019 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14537103 Brown Recluse said:
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He said what he said and it was dumb. Period.

And I don't care what fans do. Baker is not a fan, he's a professional. Players shouldn't be criticizing other players. Its unprofessional, makes him look stupid, and creates the sort of attention and distractions that no team needs.


Shut up, you sexy bald headed fool!
when do we play them?  
mattlawson : 8/20/2019 2:59 pm : link
next year hopefully?
Athlete  
ryanmkeane : 8/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
does outspoken GQ interview, GQ prints interview, athlete comes out and says it was "taken out of context" wash, rinse, repeat. These guys really think we are all stupid.
RE: when do we play them?  
ryanmkeane : 8/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
In comment 14537110 mattlawson said:
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next year hopefully?

We play them regular season next year.
RE: Athlete  
mfsd : 8/20/2019 3:04 pm : link
In comment 14537112 ryanmkeane said:
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does outspoken GQ interview, GQ prints interview, athlete comes out and says it was "taken out of context" wash, rinse, repeat. These guys really think we are all stupid.


Bullseye
Something  
ryanmkeane : 8/20/2019 3:08 pm : link
Cutcliffe said is really hitting home on a day like today. He said with Jones, you'll never have an ounce of worry or go to sleep thinking he's going to screw up. He'll be a 15 year pro and show up every single day and work.

RE: Something  
Big Blue '56 : 8/20/2019 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14537122 ryanmkeane said:
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Cutcliffe said is really hitting home on a day like today. He said with Jones, you'll never have an ounce of worry or go to sleep thinking he's going to screw up. He'll be a 15 year pro and show up every single day and work.


As long as he doesn’t switch to the infamous # 17..:)
Well, if that's true, then Mayfield isn't as big of a dick.  
TC : 8/20/2019 3:14 pm : link
What, sports writer's taking stuff out of context and distorting it!? Never happens!! ;-)
I'm going to give Mayfield  
mrvax : 8/20/2019 3:17 pm : link
the benefit of doubt. Else, he wouldn't have walked anything back. He is never afraid to express a foolish opinion.
RE: when do we play them?  
Ron Johnson : 8/20/2019 3:18 pm : link
In comment 14537110 mattlawson said:
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next year hopefully?


the circus comes to town next year
Baker would be best served.....  
thrunthrublue : 8/20/2019 3:24 pm : link
By watching tim Robbins at the end of bull durham, learn, and repeat.
Baker is trying to not be...  
sober297 : 8/20/2019 3:29 pm : link
percieved as the second coming of Johnny Manziel.
#Backtracking
RE: Something  
RobCarpenter : 8/20/2019 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14537122 ryanmkeane said:
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Cutcliffe said is really hitting home on a day like today. He said with Jones, you'll never have an ounce of worry or go to sleep thinking he's going to screw up. He'll be a 15 year pro and show up every single day and work.


The same can be said of Barkley as well.
The first part of the comments was fine  
Stu11 : 8/20/2019 4:52 pm : link
Many of us were surprised/anguished at the pick. The 2nd part of the comments was an undeniable shot at Jones and his win-loss record at Duke. Why Mayfield should give a shit where Jones was picked is beyond me. #1 they weren't in the same draft class, #2 Mayfield was picked first overall so by his logic GMs evidently do take win loss into account. Guy is an idiot and him and Diva Odell are putting a gigantic target on their back that 2 excellently coached and well run teams the Ravens/Steelers will be happy to take aim at in their division.
RE: Baker is trying to not be...  
UConn4523 : 8/20/2019 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14537161 sober297 said:
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percieved as the second coming of Johnny Manziel.
#Backtracking


He's infinitely better than Manziel without the drug problem. Mayfield is a dick, but he shouldn't be compared to Manziel.
I don't know what Mayfield said or didn't say to GQ, so I'll give him  
Ira : 8/20/2019 5:02 pm : link
the benefit if the doubt. Jones' response was typically classy -
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I think he’s a great player. He can throw it and I enjoy watching him play.

I completely understand DG's concern with getting high character players for the Giants. He's proving that you can find both character and talent in individual players.
...  
dank41 : 8/20/2019 5:07 pm : link
I thought Baker's comment "Some people overthink it" was kind of ironic because I thought the Browns front office did a lot of overthinking this offseason.

Traded a great offensive lineman and defensive player for a diva WR that they arguably didn't need.

Signed Kareem Hunt when they had Chubb/Johnson.

Everyone is talking about what they have added but not neccesarily the affects of what they lost.






RE: Something  
RDJR : 8/20/2019 5:17 pm : link
In comment 14537122 ryanmkeane said:
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Cutcliffe said is really hitting home on a day like today. He said with Jones, you'll never have an ounce of worry or go to sleep thinking he's going to screw up. He'll be a 15 year pro and show up every single day and work.


And let’s hope he has a winning record and brings the franchise back to prominence. That’s what he’s here for, not to be a lunch pail guy.
RE: Not to defend Mayfield  
Gman11 : 8/20/2019 5:34 pm : link
In comment 14537093 pjcas18 said:
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but I was surprised Jones was drafted #6 overall too.

I'd say maybe 75% of the world who cares about the NFL draft was surprised he went #6, so he's not wrong about that little piece even if it's bad form to say so.

now the reasons and W/L being a major part of eval I don't agree with, but that piece no argument.


It doesn't matter if he's right or wrong. You don't throw shade at a player on another team. If you don't want to say something good about the other guy you just give some evasive remark like "I'm sure the Giants are satisfied with their pick." Then, move on. Why in hell he's making a comment about a Giants' player is beyond me.
RE: RE: Not to defend Mayfield  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2019 5:38 pm : link
In comment 14537352 Gman11 said:
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In comment 14537093 pjcas18 said:


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but I was surprised Jones was drafted #6 overall too.

I'd say maybe 75% of the world who cares about the NFL draft was surprised he went #6, so he's not wrong about that little piece even if it's bad form to say so.

now the reasons and W/L being a major part of eval I don't agree with, but that piece no argument.



It doesn't matter if he's right or wrong. You don't throw shade at a player on another team. If you don't want to say something good about the other guy you just give some evasive remark like "I'm sure the Giants are satisfied with their pick." Then, move on. Why in hell he's making a comment about a Giants' player is beyond me.


I agree.
RE: RE: Not to defend Mayfield  
Big Blue '56 : 8/20/2019 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14537352 Gman11 said:
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In comment 14537093 pjcas18 said:


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but I was surprised Jones was drafted #6 overall too.

I'd say maybe 75% of the world who cares about the NFL draft was surprised he went #6, so he's not wrong about that little piece even if it's bad form to say so.

now the reasons and W/L being a major part of eval I don't agree with, but that piece no argument.



It doesn't matter if he's right or wrong. You don't throw shade at a player on another team. If you don't want to say something good about the other guy you just give some evasive remark like "I'm sure the Giants are satisfied with their pick." Then, move on. Why in hell he's making a comment about a Giants' player is beyond me.


That’s it in a nutshell
Mayfield is taking his PR lessons from OBJ  
PatersonPlank : 8/20/2019 6:07 pm : link
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If he was misquoted then which he could very well  
Blue21 : 8/20/2019 6:25 pm : link
could have been. Then he's a little less of an idiot than I thought he was.But he needs to be careful to chose his words like Daniel does.
RE: I can't wait for the recording to come out  
joeinpa : 8/20/2019 7:47 pm : link
In comment 14537094 Rudy5757 said:
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but at least he back tracked off of the comments like he should have. DJ handled it the best and is very Eli like in his response.


I hope these Eli comparisons end soon. He s not Eli, he s Daniel Jones.

I m hoping he has a bit more fire than Eli.
Nothing to see here  
mavric : 8/20/2019 7:48 pm : link
it's just professional backpedaling. He may have said the negative stuff off the record and just blowing out shit not thinking it would become a national story. Once it did - he was probably embarrassed and is trying to backpedal out of the situation. It's not sports, but rather meaningless gossip that feeds fans hungry for anything while waiting for the real games to begin.
I could..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/20/2019 8:40 pm : link
care less how much fire a QB shows as long as he has poise under pressure.
RE: .  
Jay on the Island : 8/20/2019 8:48 pm : link
In comment 14537088 arcarsenal said:
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Someone said he was under the impression his comments wouldn't be made public. I think this caught him off guard and now he's trying to walk it back.

That was me. PFT speculated that Mayfield was unaware that his comments about Jones would be used in the article and probably thought they were off the record. From these new remarks I think PFT's report has merit.

I hope Mayfield has learned from this.
Lets be honest  
TMS : 8/20/2019 9:57 pm : link
Mayfield was taking a shot at Jones because he is stuck in Cleveland with OBJ, a talented big mouth fool. Where would you rather be as a rich superstar ? OBJ sees that now and it is eating him up. TS
Why would  
MookGiants : 8/20/2019 10:04 pm : link
anyone care about the "fire" Jones has. And using it essentially as a knock against Eli.

Every single one of us would sign for Jones having the same success as Eli has had. Eli not being overly emotional likely helped him in NY. "Fire" doesn't win you football games.
Dude is a good QB. May be great one day. He also  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/20/2019 10:19 pm : link
May not. He seems wind up screwed IMO with two egotistical assholes who care more about IG likes and the next endorsement deals. And their Madden ratings. Landry is not prize either. Another ball hog diva.

That Mayfield is dumb enough to throw dogs at NY is kind of sad. I never thought OBJ was a bad guy. But it’s apparent he’s an insecure asshole who just can’t STFU and on top of that needs his QB to constantly massage his ego.
RE: I could..  
joeinpa : 8/21/2019 8:14 am : link
In comment 14537532 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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care less how much fire a QB shows as long as he has poise under pressure.


Yep, like Phil Simms, agree with you 100%
RE: Why would  
joeinpa : 8/21/2019 8:21 am : link
In comment 14537609 MookGiants said:
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anyone care about the "fire" Jones has. And using it essentially as a knock against Eli.

Every single one of us would sign for Jones having the same success as Eli has had. Eli not being overly emotional likely helped him in NY. "Fire" doesn't win you football games.


You guys are ridiculous sometimes. This was not meant as a knock against Eli, you have no idea how big a fan I have been of his and continue to be, I just prefer the Type if fire Phil Simms used to show, what s wrong with that?

Really some of the sensitivity here towards Eli makes it difficult to even have an objective discussion where he is concerned. No one can deny he s been a great Giant and leader. You re correct Giants would be blessed if Jones becomes a clone of Eli,

They d also be blessed if he became Phil Simms like
Who Cares?  
Jeffrey : 8/21/2019 8:23 am : link
Please let this season begin so we can stop focusing on fake news and meaningless stories. Mayfield has always been cocky and something of an ass. The fact that he might have criticized Jones in a manner much less harsh than many Giants' fans and other NFL fans did is completely irrelevant. No need to get worked up over this type of BS. Let Jones actually prove himself and then this stops. Until then the comments of an egotistical, big-mouthed QB in Cleveland mean nothing.
You do..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/21/2019 8:26 am : link
realize that Simms and Eli have pretty similar demeanors, right?

Simms was pushed to the brink by Parcells to get him fired up, but the vast majority of the time, Simms was a calming force. It's like people forget Eli getting fired up in big games or celebrating after throwing crucial TD passes.

Simms himself has said that he let Parcells get him too worked up, but learning from that helped him channel his emotions better for the rest of his career.
RE: Who Cares?  
Big Blue '56 : 8/21/2019 8:28 am : link
In comment 14537759 Jeffrey said:
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Please let this season begin so we can stop focusing on fake news and meaningless stories. Mayfield has always been cocky and something of an ass. The fact that he might have criticized Jones in a manner much less harsh than many Giants' fans and other NFL fans did is completely irrelevant. No need to get worked up over this type of BS. Let Jones actually prove himself and then this stops. Until then the comments of an egotistical, big-mouthed QB in Cleveland mean nothing.


No one’s getting worked up per se. No one really cares, also per se. Some of us, however, are sort of incredulous that another player would say something like that about a fellow player. Media and fans? Sure, but they’re not part of a fraternity. That’s the difference. And yes, in the scheme of things this means squat
RE: You do..  
Big Blue '56 : 8/21/2019 8:29 am : link
In comment 14537767 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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realize that Simms and Eli have pretty similar demeanors, right?

Simms was pushed to the brink by Parcells to get him fired up, but the vast majority of the time, Simms was a calming force. It's like people forget Eli getting fired up in big games or celebrating after throwing crucial TD passes.

Simms himself has said that he let Parcells get him too worked up, but learning from that helped him channel his emotions better for the rest of his career.


Can you still see Parcells mouth the words, “sit the fuck down?”
RE: RE: Why would  
Bill L : 8/21/2019 8:52 am : link
In comment 14537756 joeinpa said:
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In comment 14537609 MookGiants said:


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anyone care about the "fire" Jones has. And using it essentially as a knock against Eli.

Every single one of us would sign for Jones having the same success as Eli has had. Eli not being overly emotional likely helped him in NY. "Fire" doesn't win you football games.



You guys are ridiculous sometimes. This was not meant as a knock against Eli, you have no idea how big a fan I have been of his and continue to be, I just prefer the Type if fire Phil Simms used to show, what s wrong with that?

Really some of the sensitivity here towards Eli makes it difficult to even have an objective discussion where he is concerned. No one can deny he s been a great Giant and leader. You re correct Giants would be blessed if Jones becomes a clone of Eli,

They d also be blessed if he became Phil Simms like


S, what you're saying is that "fire" is basically an irrelevant quality.
My..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/21/2019 8:54 am : link
favorite part about Parcells yelling at Simms is after Simms would get up and scream at him, Parcells would give a smirk as Simms was sent away fuming!

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Can you still see Parcells mouth the words, “sit the fuck down?”
Parcells also knew who not to yell at ...  
Spider56 : 8/21/2019 9:35 am : link
On Bavaro .... I’d hate to have to fight that son of a bitch ... he’s a mean one. .... still fires do run deep.
Meant  
Spider56 : 8/21/2019 9:36 am : link
Still waters run deep
Backtracking is a punk move  
j_rud : 8/21/2019 9:58 am : link
Either keep it bland when an interviewer is around or own what you say. Id have more respect for the person who sticks to his opinions in the face of criticism. Walking it back, claiming you were misquoted or that it was taken out of context, complaining about the media...thats a chump move.

Mayfield cultivates this tough guy/anti-hero image. Talking shit on the field throughout his college career. Staring down Hue Jackson last season. His comments on Duke Johnson not too long ago. And by and large people/media eat it up. "Thats just Baker." "He keeps it a-hunnit." But the first time in his pro career he maybe steps out a bit too far, ruffles some feathers and gets some blowback, its "woah woah woah, I didnt say that." Yes you did. Just own it. Cuz if you dont it undermines all the other stuff and makes you look a bit like a bitch.
Agreed rud  
mittenedman : 8/21/2019 10:02 am : link
His act will grow old just like Odell's did here.

And him saying he didn't mean for anyone to hear it (thought he said it off the record?) doesn't excuse anything. What a putz. Like it's fine talking shit behind someone's back as long as they don't hear it. Can you imagine what comes out of this asshole's mouth in private?

Brandon Tierney said that Mayfield has passed the point of getting the  
Ira : 8/21/2019 10:03 am : link
benefit of the doubt.
RE: Backtracking is a punk move  
crick n NC : 8/21/2019 10:05 am : link
In comment 14537956 j_rud said:
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Either keep it bland when an interviewer is around or own what you say. Id have more respect for the person who sticks to his opinions in the face of criticism. Walking it back, claiming you were misquoted or that it was taken out of context, complaining about the media...thats a chump move.

Mayfield cultivates this tough guy/anti-hero image. Talking shit on the field throughout his college career. Staring down Hue Jackson last season. His comments on Duke Johnson not too long ago. And by and large people/media eat it up. "Thats just Baker." "He keeps it a-hunnit." But the first time in his pro career he maybe steps out a bit too far, ruffles some feathers and gets some blowback, its "woah woah woah, I didnt say that." Yes you did. Just own it. Cuz if you dont it undermines all the other stuff and makes you look a bit like a bitch.


Sticky this man's Gospel.
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