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NCAA News - Rashan Gary turned down 300k

dep026 : 8/20/2019 3:22 pm
to play for another school other than Michigan. Now this all rumor and speculation - but Sam Webb is a pretty linked in guy when it comes to Michigan football. And they dont speculate who it was because it seems like Clemson is the school because they were the other big player for Gary before he signed.
Is this from the John U Bacon book?  
RobCarpenter : 8/20/2019 3:28 pm : link
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is the assumption ...  
Csonka : 8/20/2019 3:29 pm : link
that he turned down $300k from someone and got nothing from Michigan?
I would bet...  
bw in dc : 8/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
it's Auburn or Ole Miss.
RE: Is this from the John U Bacon book?  
dep026 : 8/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
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I believe so.
Wonder how much  
Jon in NYC : 8/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
Michigan paid. Probably closer to 500 or 600.
RE: Wonder how much  
dep026 : 8/20/2019 4:12 pm : link
In comment 14537220 Jon in NYC said:
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Michigan paid. Probably closer to 500 or 600.


Um, no.
I actually do think it's Clemson  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 8/20/2019 4:35 pm : link
Michigan hired Gary's HS coach, Chris Patridge, to get him and they also had Peppers and other North Jersey kids (Kareem Walker decommitted from Ohio St. to UM but flamed out).

So Clemson - the other finalist - really had to step it up.
RE: I actually do think it's Clemson  
Gatorade Dunk : 8/20/2019 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14537277 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Michigan hired Gary's HS coach, Chris Patridge, to get him and they also had Peppers and other North Jersey kids (Kareem Walker decommitted from Ohio St. to UM but flamed out).

So Clemson - the other finalist - really had to step it up.

If he played at UM for free, why would the supposed runner up have necessarily been the one offering him that? If the money wasn't a factor in where he ultimately did go, it could have been any of the schools that recruited him along the way, couldn't it?

That is, of course, if you are certain that he chose Michigan for reasons that are entirely consistent with amateur athletics only.
Yeah, I'm sure Michigan is beyond reproach.  
Maryland Giant : 8/20/2019 5:23 pm : link
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And hopefully...  
bw in dc : 8/20/2019 5:27 pm : link
Gary did get paid because these college athletes deserve to...



I love when people think guys like Gary don't get paid. Michigan  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/20/2019 5:33 pm : link
pretty much said academic standards? what academic standards when it came to him. Wonder what Michigan offered if he turned down 300k.
He's been pretty much incognito in preseason too even though he's  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/20/2019 5:35 pm : link
a large percentage of snaps.
RE: He's been pretty much incognito in preseason too even though he's  
dep026 : 8/20/2019 5:50 pm : link
In comment 14537353 Zeke's Alibi said:
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a large percentage of snaps.


If you watched his all-22 he dominated his opponent in the first game in limited snaps. He was credited with 3 hurries in three 3 step drops. Not shabby if you ask me.
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Zeke's Alibi : 8/20/2019 6:03 pm : link
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a large percentage of snaps.



If you watched his all-22 he dominated his opponent in the first game in limited snaps. He was credited with 3 hurries in three 3 step drops. Not shabby if you ask me.


Where did you see this? All I saw was 66 defensive snaps and nothing on the stat sheet. For a guy that his biggest question mark was production that has to be concerning, especially when he has opportunites to go against 2nd string lineman.
He didnít make any tackles  
dep026 : 8/20/2019 6:41 pm : link
But there was an article written after the first game how he flashed and was getting in the backfield.
Yeh I saw that, it was written by a professional fan, and the plays  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/20/2019 6:49 pm : link
I saw were a bit of a stretch to say he flashed. Its still only two preseason games, but when you have Aaron Rodgers at QB you'll have plenty of opportunity to rush the passer. We shall see.
RE: RE: I actually do think it's Clemson  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 8/20/2019 7:14 pm : link
In comment 14537307 Gatorade Dunk said:
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Michigan hired Gary's HS coach, Chris Patridge, to get him and they also had Peppers and other North Jersey kids (Kareem Walker decommitted from Ohio St. to UM but flamed out).

So Clemson - the other finalist - really had to step it up.


If he played at UM for free, why would the supposed runner up have necessarily been the one offering him that? If the money wasn't a factor in where he ultimately did go, it could have been any of the schools that recruited him along the way, couldn't it?

That is, of course, if you are certain that he chose Michigan for reasons that are entirely consistent with amateur athletics only.


Where did I say he played for free?
Jesus how naive  
HomerJones45 : 8/20/2019 7:52 pm : link
to think the guy turned down 300k to play for the purity of MI athletics.

Either the 300k story was bullshit or MI at least matched it.
Smart move by Michigan  
Metnut : 8/20/2019 8:11 pm : link
to outbid the $300K. He was a good player for them. Reminds me of the fab5.

Back to irrelevance for them though sadly with their coach leaving. At least they have Harbaugh and football to look forward to!
RE: Smart move by Michigan  
Metnut : 8/20/2019 8:12 pm : link
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to outbid the $300K. He was a good player for them. Reminds me of the fab5.

Back to irrelevance for them though sadly with their coach leaving. At least they have Harbaugh and football to look forward to!


Damn... I canít even troll right. Mixed up Gary with a basketball player.
LOL at UM fans with their holier-than-thou BS  
nygmen84 : 8/21/2019 3:01 am : link
They are the worst and completely removed from reality.
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ajr2456 : 8/21/2019 8:26 am : link
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Michigan paid. Probably closer to 500 or 600.



Um, no.


Lol he absolutely got paid by Michigan
Yeah, smear the kid and everyone else who recruited him.  
Crispino : 8/21/2019 8:27 am : link
Maybe he was offered money by someone, but maybe he turned it down because he knew it was opening him up to a lot of trouble if it was exposed.
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dep026 : 8/21/2019 8:35 am : link
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Michigan paid. Probably closer to 500 or 600.



Um, no.



Lol he absolutely got paid by Michigan


Statement backed up by what?
Michigan sports...  
bw in dc : 8/21/2019 8:42 am : link
certainly have a dark side.

See the Fab 5 scandal with booster Ed Martin.

I doubt Michigan gave him  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 8/21/2019 8:47 am : link
anything other than the feeling of pride when putting on that maize and blue uniform. #Hail #MichiganMan
RE: Michigan sports...  
dep026 : 8/21/2019 8:48 am : link
In comment 14537806 bw in dc said:
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certainly have a dark side.

See the Fab 5 scandal with booster Ed Martin.



Nearly 30 years ago.
RE: Yeah, smear the kid and everyone else who recruited him.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 8/21/2019 9:01 am : link
In comment 14537769 Crispino said:
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Maybe he was offered money by someone, but maybe he turned it down because he knew it was opening him up to a lot of trouble if it was exposed.


You are absolutely right. BUT Chris Partridge is involved, and a leopard doesn't change his spots. You are from the area,so you know this.
RE: RE: Yeah, smear the kid and everyone else who recruited him.  
Crispino : 8/21/2019 9:47 am : link
In comment 14537846 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Maybe he was offered money by someone, but maybe he turned it down because he knew it was opening him up to a lot of trouble if it was exposed.



You are absolutely right. BUT Chris Partridge is involved, and a leopard doesn't change his spots. You are from the area,so you know this.


Fair point. I just think itís a little unfair for everyone to assume they know what went on.
RE: Yeah, smear the kid and everyone else who recruited him.  
HomerJones45 : 8/21/2019 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14537769 Crispino said:
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Maybe he was offered money by someone, but maybe he turned it down because he knew it was opening him up to a lot of trouble if it was exposed.
Yeah right. Cam Newton and the SEC bidding war over him put that problem to rest.

The NCAA is far too busy investigating the big offenses like posing for charity calendars and getting $20 to go to Wendy's at midnight to bother with these penny ante football issues out of money printing "power conferences".
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HomerJones45 : 8/21/2019 12:29 pm : link
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Michigan paid. Probably closer to 500 or 600.



Um, no.



Lol he absolutely got paid by Michigan



Statement backed up by what?
Logic. Either the story was BS or Michigan paid him. These kids aren't independently wealthy to turn down that kind of cash.
While I have no skin in this game regarding UM...  
RC in MD : 8/21/2019 1:28 pm : link
it's naive to think that any D1 college football program is clean. While most schools may not be able to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to its players or their family members, there some level of incentives given to the players.

Even the perennial powerhouse football programs like Army, Navy, and AF have been marked by their own scandals over the years regarding star players being protected from punishment after they violated academy rules/military regulations, etc.

The powerhouse comment, of course, was in jest. But the fact remains that whether it's UM or any other school, they all have some level of playing by their own rules to recruit or to keep their current star players.
Jeez, I really hope UVA football is clean  
Greg from LI : 8/21/2019 2:03 pm : link
If that's the kind of results we got while still cheating? Woof.
Rutgers is beyond reproach  
Dave : 8/21/2019 4:08 pm : link
and if you need proof, just look at their W-L record
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bw in dc : 8/21/2019 5:13 pm : link
In comment 14538193 HomerJones45 said:
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Logic. Either the story was BS or Michigan paid him. These kids aren't independently wealthy to turn down that kind of cash.


And he may have been paid from the Michigan booster network without any knowledge from the coaching staff.

Harbaugh does not seem like a win at all costs coach. So I would sort of be stunned, even despite the growing pressure, if Harbaugh went down that path...
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ajr2456 : 8/22/2019 8:34 am : link
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Michigan paid. Probably closer to 500 or 600.



Um, no.



Lol he absolutely got paid by Michigan



Statement backed up by what?


That it happens at every Power 5 division one school. Every single one.
Michigan's  
Jon in NYC : 8/22/2019 8:59 am : link
becoming a national laughingstock. Recommend reading Dan Wolken's twitter feed this morning.
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RE: Michigan's  
dep026 : 8/22/2019 9:17 am : link
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becoming a national laughingstock. Recommend reading Dan Wolken's twitter feed this morning. Link - ( New Window )


Exaggerate much?
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ajr2456 : 8/22/2019 10:29 am : link
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becoming a national laughingstock. Recommend reading Dan Wolken's twitter feed this morning. Link - ( New Window )



Exaggerate much?


This excerpt from the book is pretty laughable. Nobody believes this
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RE: Michigan's  
RobCarpenter : 8/22/2019 10:50 am : link
In comment 14539020 Jon in NYC said:
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becoming a national laughingstock. Recommend reading Dan Wolken's twitter feed this morning. Link - ( New Window )


People who hate Michigan use a book written by an author who works for Michigan and went to Michigan to continue to hate Michigan. That's nothing new at all, and doesn't make the school a national laughingstock.

Plus, if you've read the other Bacon books about the Rich Rod and Brady Hoke eras, you'd see that he takes the school to task about hiring that assclown AD.

As to Michigan having integrity, it's been widely reported how Beilein was frustrated by cheating in college basketball, leading to him deciding to go to the NBA.

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ajr2456 : 8/22/2019 11:08 am : link
In comment 14539149 RobCarpenter said:
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becoming a national laughingstock. Recommend reading Dan Wolken's twitter feed this morning. Link - ( New Window )



People who hate Michigan use a book written by an author who works for Michigan and went to Michigan to continue to hate Michigan. That's nothing new at all, and doesn't make the school a national laughingstock.

Plus, if you've read the other Bacon books about the Rich Rod and Brady Hoke eras, you'd see that he takes the school to task about hiring that assclown AD.

As to Michigan having integrity, it's been widely reported how Beilein was frustrated by cheating in college basketball, leading to him deciding to go to the NBA. Link - ( New Window )


Aka he wasnít as good at cheating.
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bw in dc : 8/22/2019 11:16 am : link
In comment 14539149 RobCarpenter said:
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Plus, if you've read the other Bacon books about the Rich Rod and Brady Hoke eras, you'd see that he takes the school to task about hiring that assclown AD.



That RichRod hire is still amazes me. Talk about a hire who seemed so antithetical to Michigan tradition...
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RobCarpenter : 8/22/2019 11:34 am : link
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Plus, if you've read the other Bacon books about the Rich Rod and Brady Hoke eras, you'd see that he takes the school to task about hiring that assclown AD.





That RichRod hire is still amazes me. Talk about a hire who seemed so antithetical to Michigan tradition...


You're not the only one. Even after reading Bacon's book I'm not sure I know why they hired him.
RE: Michigan's  
jintz4life : 8/22/2019 11:48 am : link
In comment 14539020 Jon in NYC said:
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becoming a national laughingstock. Recommend reading Dan Wolken's twitter feed this morning. Link - ( New Window )


ah yes the guy who the tennessee ad texted asking to pump up the schiano

def the guy i want to look towards for unbiased anything
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