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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/21/2019 11:41 am
FYI...


Preview: New York Giants at Cincinnati Bengals, August 22, 2019 - ( New Window )
Brandon Jacobs  
Phil S : 8/21/2019 11:49 am : link
Not Jones.
RE: Brandon Jacobs  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/21/2019 11:51 am : link
In comment 14538139 Phil S said:
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Not Jones.


Then double apologies to him.
You owe Brandon Jacobs another apology.  
Klaatu : 8/21/2019 11:53 am : link
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Dude, you're getting almost as bad as Big Blue '56.  
Klaatu : 8/21/2019 11:55 am : link
"Barkley and Evans." Didn't they sing "In The Year 2525?"
RE: You owe Brandon Jacobs another apology.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/21/2019 11:55 am : link
In comment 14538145 Klaatu said:
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Hey, I've got Jones on the brain.
Nice write-up...  
M.S. : 8/21/2019 12:38 pm : link

...I'm particularly interested on how the defense guards against runs to the edge. Past several years (save for one) the Giants defense gave up as many soft corners as any team in the NFL!
Eric,  
winoguy : 8/21/2019 12:42 pm : link
in injury report you mention that those players wont play Friday night. Game is Thursday night...
Not sure TE report is all that accurate  
Bob in Newburgh : 8/21/2019 12:47 pm : link
I believe that Simonsen may be the best blocker of the bunch.

If that is the case, the bad drop must be put into context. Certainly a TE who might actually help SB is not on the bubble because of 1 drop in a meaningless game.

Not like any of the TEs not named EE are threatening to tear it up in the passing game.
Eric,  
MarkT : 8/21/2019 12:51 pm : link
Like the write up...
The only thing I have questioned in the past is about Eli being "shell shocked". I never looked at it that way. As I see it Eli did what he needed to do. Either take a self preservation dive, dump the ball, or hang in to pass. He rarely had the time after the snap. His "choice" of targets sometimes was limited by the coverage and rush, thus the "Eli cant pass deep" crowd. All being said, most quarterbacks would be ecstatic over his stats last year. "garbage time" or not, I feel he remained as competitive as ever, considering what he had to work with.
I'd Add Frank Gifford  
clatterbuck : 8/21/2019 1:33 pm : link
to the apologies list. :)
RE: I'd Add Frank Gifford  
Post Time : 8/21/2019 1:37 pm : link
In comment 14538275 clatterbuck said:
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to the apologies list. :)

He said RBs that Eli played with...
I think it's time to  
RollBlue : 8/21/2019 1:40 pm : link
move on from DeOssie. His snaps aren't that great anymore. Keep a young guy who can snap and play LB too if needed.
Do you have anything to synopsize the Bengals?  
Bill L : 8/21/2019 2:04 pm : link
I don't really know much about them or what to expect tomorrow.
RE: Not sure TE report is all that accurate  
Klaatu : 8/21/2019 2:09 pm : link
In comment 14538215 Bob in Newburgh said:
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I believe that Simonsen may be the best blocker of the bunch.

If that is the case, the bad drop must be put into context. Certainly a TE who might actually help SB is not on the bubble because of 1 drop in a meaningless game.

Not like any of the TEs not named EE are threatening to tear it up in the passing game.


Simonson is also the most likely to draw a flag, which doesn't help anybody.
RE: I think it's time to  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/21/2019 2:13 pm : link
In comment 14538282 RollBlue said:
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move on from DeOssie. His snaps aren't that great anymore. Keep a young guy who can snap and play LB too if needed.


Every year with the same thing. You know what has become a unicorn in the NFL? Long-snappers who actually log time at other positions.

Why don't we just save a roster spot and have Rosas PK and punt?? Why not have Peppers play WR and DB?

Is there that little awareness about what a long-snapper does?
DJ8 is doing better than me in Madden  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/21/2019 2:21 pm : link
I have like 15 interceptions with him and Lauletta. But I am running all over the field like a maniac and the Giants are 7-6. I think we would all take that record.

So far most impressive with him is his sensibilities. The go route TDs to the corner of the end zone are becoming routine and boring. I like most his throw to Fowler vs Bears the most, a muddy 4 defenders against a 3 combo route, but he sees and makes the throw to the deepest route Fowler on a slant in a fairly tight window. That's point guard vision that many QBs don't have. He's the John Stockton of football.
DeOssie is a critical position  
Bluesbreaker : 8/21/2019 2:29 pm : link
Number one he is consistant and does a good job
in punt coverage I the backup wins the job fine
Rather go with a sure thing . Baker concerns me and
as well as Ballentine has played CB is a big concern
Beal has been a non factor due to being injured so call me concerned there . The Loss of Tate stings too .
Expect to see BJ Hill Lawrence and Tomlinson to step it up
and start making some plays Laurence has yet to register
a single tackle yet . I expect to see him live up to his billing . Were gonna have our hands full with Zeke Elliott !
RE: Eric,  
Capt. Don : 8/21/2019 2:31 pm : link
In comment 14538228 MarkT said:
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Like the write up...
The only thing I have questioned in the past is about Eli being "shell shocked". I never looked at it that way. As I see it Eli did what he needed to do. Either take a self preservation dive, dump the ball, or hang in to pass. He rarely had the time after the snap. His "choice" of targets sometimes was limited by the coverage and rush, thus the "Eli cant pass deep" crowd. All being said, most quarterbacks would be ecstatic over his stats last year. "garbage time" or not, I feel he remained as competitive as ever, considering what he had to work with.


He is most definitely shell shocked. There many times last season that Eli checked the ball down or just crumbled at just the perception of pressure.

That isnt even a criticism...who wouldnt be after several years of inept line play. But he definitely reacts to phantom pressure.
Also, I don't think Simonson is a good blocker  
Capt. Don : 8/21/2019 2:38 pm : link
When I have watched him closely, he has been average.
RE: Not sure TE report is all that accurate  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/21/2019 3:51 pm : link
In comment 14538215 Bob in Newburgh said:
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I believe that Simonsen may be the best blocker of the bunch.

If that is the case, the bad drop must be put into context. Certainly a TE who might actually help SB is not on the bubble because of 1 drop in a meaningless game.

Not like any of the TEs not named EE are threatening to tear it up in the passing game.


Nowhere did I knock Simonson's blocking. I merely said he's not safe. I think folks are ignoring Garrett.
RE: RE: I think it's time to  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/21/2019 4:14 pm : link
In comment 14538340 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14538282 RollBlue said:


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move on from DeOssie. His snaps aren't that great anymore. Keep a young guy who can snap and play LB too if needed.



Every year with the same thing. You know what has become a unicorn in the NFL? Long-snappers who actually log time at other positions.

Why don't we just save a roster spot and have Rosas PK and punt?? Why not have Peppers play WR and DB?

Is there that little awareness about what a long-snapper does?

Using someone at multiple positions is too wavy gravy for Jints Central, leave that crazy stuff to Belichick and Payton.
RE: I think it's time to  
Larry in Pencilvania : 8/21/2019 4:20 pm : link
In comment 14538282 RollBlue said:
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move on from DeOssie. His snaps aren't that great anymore. Keep a young guy who can snap and play LB too if needed.


Trey Junkin...no thanks
Bengals are interesting  
mittenedman : 8/21/2019 4:31 pm : link
Seems like just yesterday they were a stacked well-coached football team at every position. The talent difference was so clear during that joint practice session 2 years back.

Now, they are the latest team with a pipsqueak coach (Zac Taylor, 36 years old?) and a roster of nobody's. Joe Mixon is one of the best RBs in the NFL. After that, their OLine is a mess (John Jerry is rotating at LG and Bobby Hart is their starting RT). Last year's 1st round pick C Billy Price has been compromised by a foot injury and has not played well. Their D has an aging Geno Atkins and Carlos Dunlap and not a helluva lot else.

This is a rebuilding team, and it will be interesting to see if the Giants clobber them upside the head.
Just saying, discussion - not dissing anyone  
Bob in Newburgh : 8/21/2019 5:18 pm : link
If there is a significant difference, best run blocker is going to be viewed as next after EE with the further proviso that the blocking TE cannot be worthless as a receiver.

Other than EE, none are safe. It makes some sense that RE could be vulnerable. Not a DG signing, not going to get better, positive cap ramification.
Excellent job, Eric  
Jay in Toronto : 8/21/2019 6:49 pm : link
though I fear that the ghost of one of the 'Realists' will appear and demand to void your membership in their club.

I've also been impressed with Kenny Ladler. He just seems to make and/'or be near plays. Is he on any of the STs?
RE: Bengals are interesting  
shyster : 8/21/2019 9:43 pm : link
In comment 14538451 mittenedman said:
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Seems like just yesterday they were a stacked well-coached football team at every position. The talent difference was so clear during that joint practice session 2 years back.

Now, they are the latest team with a pipsqueak coach (Zac Taylor, 36 years old?) and a roster of nobody's.


Joint practice was 4 years ago, Coughlin's last year.

But yes, Bengals have been going the wrong way. Pats won't play anybody next week, so this is as much of a test as NYG will get before Dallas.
RE: Just saying, discussion - not dissing anyone  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/22/2019 2:01 am : link
In comment 14538491 Bob in Newburgh said:
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If there is a significant difference, best run blocker is going to be viewed as next after EE with the further proviso that the blocking TE cannot be worthless as a receiver.

Other than EE, none are safe. It makes some sense that RE could be vulnerable. Not a DG signing, not going to get better, positive cap ramification.


Ellison is connected to Shurmur and does multiple things competently, if nothing very well. He knows all phases of the TE and HBack positions in PS's O.

I doubt he's vulnerable in the least for this year.
And Ellison has been cited as a very positive locker room presence  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/22/2019 2:04 am : link
going back to his college days. He's from an NFL football family, IIRC. He's the veteran leader of the TE room, until Engram proves he is THE GUY.

RE: I think it's time to  
Ivan15 : 8/22/2019 7:57 am : link
In comment 14538282 RollBlue said:
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move on from DeOssie. His snaps aren't that great anymore. Keep a young guy who can snap and play LB too if needed.


When there are bad snaps, pressure up the middle, or late in punt coverage, it will be time to move on. I haven’t seen that yet.
Even when it is..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/22/2019 8:23 am : link
time to move on from DeOssie, replacing him with the intent of having a two-way player shouldn't be the priority. It should be to replace him with the best long snapper.
DeOssie had a few questionable snaps  
section125 : 8/22/2019 10:45 am : link
last year and some the year before. It might be time to seriously consider a replacement. He is not done, but the cracks are evident. He still covers well, without doubt. Dixon saved his bacon more than once last year.
I'm actually in Cincinnati for work  
JonC : 8/22/2019 10:52 am : link
and hoping I can go tonight.
From the little I have seen,  
section125 : 8/22/2019 10:55 am : link
I like Ballentine as K/O returner. He has a very nice explosion through the whole and seems to attack the coverage and not wait to find a seam. Aggressive style that seems to be the best method.
Looking forward to watching real time tonight as I have had  
Jimmy Googs : 8/22/2019 11:28 am : link
to deal with nightmare delays at LaGuardia last two games.

Some things to view include the competitions at Tight End and Linebacker, as well as the returners.

Obviously all eyes on Manning vs. Jones...as you know Cris Carter will be watching



RE: I'm actually in Cincinnati for work  
Mr. Bungle : 8/22/2019 11:32 am : link
In comment 14539150 JonC said:
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and hoping I can go tonight.

Awesome timing! You should go!
I didn't make it to the game  
JonC : 8/22/2019 8:55 pm : link
but I do think I saw Dianna Russini at the airport. She work the game?
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