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Were the late 50's/early 60's Giants viewed as....

Emlen'sGremlins : 8/21/2019 9:33 pm
....that generation's version of the early 90's Buffalo Bills at the time?

They lost the NFL Championship Game in 5 out of 6 years (1958, 1959, 1961, 1962 and 1963). Granted, two of the losses were to loaded Colts teams and two others were to the Lombardi Packers.
I was around..  
Big Blue '56 : 8/21/2019 9:41 pm : link
The sudden death game speaks for itself. The ‘59 game at Baltimore has us ahead 9-7 going into the 4th. The Colts erupted for 24 4th qtr points for a 31-16 win..

The ‘61 game was a slaughterhouse by the Packers. We lost the ‘62 game at home 16-7 to the Pack with swirling, horrific winds..The ‘63 Bears 14-10 win over us at Wrigley was a gift to them. We were up 7-0 and then Shofner dropped a wide open TD pass that should have made it 14-0..YA had his knee effectively shredded by Larry Morris and he threw 5 INTs, 3-4 of them on one, heavily bandaged leg..
come on, the buffalo bills? How can you put them in the same sentence  
plato : 8/21/2019 9:51 pm : link
as those great Giant teams of the mid 50’s to early 60’s? the giants were such a far better team with qb’s who could throw the ball down the field and hall of fame lineman, lb’ers etc.
It is always hard to compare eras, but a new york comparison of that era would be the football giants with baseball brooklyn dodgers. Great teams, each won their respective divisions/league but would lose the final game of the season.
nDodgers lost repeatedly to Yankees. And there were almost no Yankee fans in New York, except Bronx and out of town business visitors to new york. Anyway the analogy of Giant football of that era with Dodger baseball of the same years works much better that anything to do with the Buffalo Bills of any era.
It was much tougher for the Bill to make 4 straight SBs  
since1925 : 8/21/2019 10:10 pm : link
Then for the Giants to get to five of six championships in a much smaller league.

But the Giants managed to win a championship and the Bill's didn't.

So you decide.
I’ve seen the analogy before.  
81_Great_Dane : 8/21/2019 10:20 pm : link
But that ring makes a big difference.
More like the Atlanta braves of the 90s  
djm : 8/21/2019 10:41 pm : link
Could be worse...
I was around too, and no.  
Red Dog : 8/21/2019 10:45 pm : link
That analogy is really farging lame.
I am of that era...  
M.S. : 8/22/2019 5:42 am : link

...and I would say, "No."

But then again, it's hard to say because the reference to the Buffalo Bill is after the fact.

Our perspective might be different had the Late 50's / Early 60's Giants somehow -- in a crazy time warp machine -- followed the snake-bitten 90's Bills.
I too remember that era  
Mike in Boston : 8/22/2019 6:08 am : link
No. Nor do I remember anyone saying of the Bills that they were like the Giants of the late 50's and early 60's, which at least could have been said without a time machine. Partly because by the 1990's the media liked to pretend the NFL began with Super Bowl I (itself an anachronism). Also the Bills lost those games to teams that were more physical, while the Giants lost to teams that were just great teams. And they had won one in that era as well.
RE: I too remember that era  
M.S. : 8/22/2019 6:12 am : link
In comment 14538953 Mike in Boston said:
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No. Nor do I remember anyone saying of the Bills that they were like the Giants of the late 50's and early 60's, which at least could have been said without a time machine. Partly because by the 1990's the media liked to pretend the NFL began with Super Bowl I (itself an anachronism). Also the Bills lost those games to teams that were more physical, while the Giants lost to teams that were just great teams. And they had won one in that era as well.

Excellent points Mike!
No because they  
joeinpa : 8/22/2019 6:54 am : link
We’re champions in 56

In the overtime game Frank Gifford always felt he got the first down to clinch the game, but officials missed spot because of Geno Marchetti breaking leg on that play.

Against the Bears Tittle s injury was too much to overcome, they were better than the Bears.

The Colts and Packers were probably the better teams
The Giants were beaten by “hungrier” teams. After the 1st win in 1956  
Ivan15 : 8/22/2019 7:29 am : link
the Giants were the toast of the Town. They got all the commercials, all the TV appearances, front row seats and tables.

And they were convinced they were the best and their HCs weren’t real motivators. They were the best team but couldn’t get that extra incentive to win the big game.
The Giants competed in their losses.  
x meadowlander : 8/22/2019 10:53 am : link
...there were no Championship game blowouts of the level the Bills were getting their asses handed to them. They gave up 37 and 55 points in successive Super Bowls. Their fast paced offense was great against weak AFC teams, but ensured Giants, Redskins and Cowboys had all day to control the clock, wearing down the Bills shitty, shitty defenses.

1990 aside, honestly - the Bills were simply the best of a inferior Conference. NFC positively RULED most of the 90's.
I was too young for those games  
arniefez : 8/22/2019 11:17 am : link
I was lucky enough to start attending games in 1965. I'll trade with those championship loss suffering fans. 1965-1980 didn't scar me or shape my feelings toward the Giants at all. So much fun to be a Giant fan in those days.
A better comparison for the Bils  
since1925 : 8/22/2019 11:17 am : link
86, 87, 89 Broncos
RE: A better comparison for the Bils  
x meadowlander : 8/22/2019 12:07 pm : link
In comment 14539179 since1925 said:
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86, 87, 89 Broncos


Bills were better than those Bronco teams, dynamic offenses with excellent receivers and Thurman Thomas was the most dangerous back in football back then. Arguably deserved the SB MVP in 90'.

Elway was better than Kelly - he was better than anyone, Marino and Montana included, IMO. I saw all 3 play. Elway made IMPOSSIBLE throws. Off balance, across the field 50 yard rockets. John Elway was a ridiculous talent who willed a better-than-average football team to 3 consecutive Super Bowls.

When he finally got a very good team, he delivered.
Thanks for dredging up...  
BMac : 8/22/2019 12:35 pm : link
...that old heartbreak!
RE: I was around..  
clatterbuck : 8/22/2019 4:23 pm : link
In comment 14538743 Big Blue '56 said:
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The sudden death game speaks for itself. The ‘59 game at Baltimore has us ahead 9-7 going into the 4th. The Colts erupted for 24 4th qtr points for a 31-16 win..

The ‘61 game was a slaughterhouse by the Packers. We lost the ‘62 game at home 16-7 to the Pack with swirling, horrific winds..The ‘63 Bears 14-10 win over us at Wrigley was a gift to them. We were up 7-0 and then Shofner dropped a wide open TD pass that should have made it 14-0..YA had his knee effectively shredded by Larry Morris and he threw 5 INTs, 3-4 of them on one, heavily bandaged leg..


We wuz robbed in 58. And still maintain that if championship games were played at warm-weather neutral sites like the early SBs, we would have beaten the Bears and would have had a much better shot in the '62 home game against the Packers.
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