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Redskins turned down 1st round pick

Big Rick in FL : 8/22/2019 11:42 am
From the Patriots for Trent Williams. Per JP Finlay of NBCsportsWashington.
Skins & Pats trade - ( New Window )
I probably  
Jon in NYC : 8/22/2019 11:44 am : link
would have taken that. Skins are far from competing, Williams is 31 and has no intentions of re-joining the team without a mega deal.
Damn. No wonder Trent Williams  
Motley Two : 8/22/2019 11:44 am : link
is so pissed.
The redskins continue to F*ck up this situation  
ZogZerg : 8/22/2019 11:44 am : link
His value is only going down as the season starts.

I believe him when he says he will never play for them again. The redskins should as well.
From my armchair,  
Big Blue '56 : 8/22/2019 11:46 am : link
I would have taken that, albeit it would probably be a late first-rounder
Crazy if it's true  
Big Rick in FL : 8/22/2019 11:48 am : link
Williams has made 95 million on the field plus whatever else he's made off the field. Doesn't seem like he needs to ever play again.
Doesn't sound like the Pats  
upnyg : 8/22/2019 11:48 am : link
to give a 1st for a 31 year old. Unless they can keep his pay down from the market.
They should have taken that. If true.  
MM_in_NYC : 8/22/2019 11:49 am : link
I'm glad they didn't.
I'm calling..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/22/2019 11:49 am : link
BS on that report. At this point, the Skins should take what they can.
Someone is bound  
pjcas18 : 8/22/2019 11:50 am : link
to say "well it would basically be a 2nd round pick" - which is mind numbingly absurd.

I see no way this is true.

and if it is, thank you Redskins
RE: The redskins continue to F*ck up this situation  
bw in dc : 8/22/2019 11:52 am : link
In comment 14539234 ZogZerg said:
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His value is only going down as the season starts.

I believe him when he says he will never play for them again. The redskins should as well.


I think this is right. Williams seems committed to his cause.
I'm not sure this claim is entirely true...  
BamaBlue : 8/22/2019 11:56 am : link
the Redskins have no leverage and must believe there's a better deal out there. On the other hand, this is the Redskins and it is my sincere hope that Dan Snyder doesn't change a thing and lives to be 150 years old.
If this is true it is just further truth that the Redskins are a  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/22/2019 11:59 am : link
complete clown show. 1st round pick for a 31 year old tackle with an inability to stay on field. Sounds like they turned it down out of spite, which would totally track with the MO of the Danny Boy lead Skins. If this is true the Pats pretty much coming out saying they don't think much of the draft class next year, at least at the elite talent level.
Skins are either stupid or there is more to this story.  
Blue21 : 8/22/2019 12:02 pm : link
I say they are stupid.
The fact that we can't tell if this story is true or not says a lot  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/22/2019 12:03 pm : link
about the Skins.
If true  
Jay on the Island : 8/22/2019 12:03 pm : link
Which I don’t think it is because they have Wynn at LT, they’re idiots for turning that down.
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Strahan91 : 8/22/2019 12:09 pm : link
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From what I understand, this is false. “Unequivocally not true” was the precise wording. So, carry on
Pats wouldnt offer a 1st, that's so far from their MO  
j_rud : 8/22/2019 12:18 pm : link
Also, as dumb as the Skins often appear to be, even they arent dumb enough to turn that down. At first youd think it was concoted by Williams agent but you would hope he's not that tone deaf.
I'm sure someone has offered a first for Trent Williams  
RobCarpenter : 8/22/2019 12:24 pm : link
But I seriously doubt it was the Patriots.

The Redskins are in complete denial about the situation with Williams. I really think they expect him to come back.
The Pats are in win now mode. They have a several aging great  
Ira : 8/22/2019 12:26 pm : link
players. Offering a late first for an older, but not that old star tackle makes a lot of sense to me.
I don't believe  
darren in pdx : 8/22/2019 12:45 pm : link
that at all, I can't imagine any team turning down a 1st round pick in that type of situation at all.
Yeah, I am finding this a bit hard to believe  
figgy2989 : 8/22/2019 12:51 pm : link
I know they are steadfast on getting a player for player type trade, but at this point, Williams has flat out said he will never play for the Redskins again.

Do they really think that they are going to do any better than a first? That is why I am not believing this report.
RE: I probably  
djstat : 8/22/2019 12:51 pm : link
In comment 14539232 Jon in NYC said:
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would have taken that. Skins are far from competing, Williams is 31 and has no intentions of re-joining the team without a mega deal.
His holdout is not about money
RE: Yeah, I am finding this a bit hard to believe  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/22/2019 12:54 pm : link
In comment 14539360 figgy2989 said:
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I know they are steadfast on getting a player for player type trade, but at this point, Williams has flat out said he will never play for the Redskins again.

Do they really think that they are going to do any better than a first? That is why I am not believing this report.


Is that true about the player for player trade? This is the type of reason they are consistently a 500 football team. Thank God I wasn't born a Skins fan I'd probably would have jumped ship a long time ago.
RE: The Pats are in win now mode. They have a several aging great  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/22/2019 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14539311 Ira said:
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players. Offering a late first for an older, but not that old star tackle makes a lot of sense to me.


This. Plus Wynn is prolly better suited to OG or RT.
Trent Williams team  
Eli2020 : 8/22/2019 1:44 pm : link
probably planted the story. Sounds like a PR move to say F-U to Snyder
I believe Finlay  
Now Mike in MD : 8/22/2019 2:04 pm : link
over IR. Finlay is pretty connected with the team. IR has a history of bad reporting. If anything, IR's report is probably spin from NE to reduce upsetting the apple cart on the team. Finally, Gary Uberstine was on 106.7. He used to be an agent and dealt with Allen a lot. He represented Kennan McCardell when he was holding out And he said he had dealt with Bruce Allen a lot and it would not suprprise him at all if he dug his heels in and refused to make a trade just out of obstinacy
RE: I believe Finlay  
RobCarpenter : 8/22/2019 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14539469 Now Mike in MD said:
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over IR. Finlay is pretty connected with the team. IR has a history of bad reporting. If anything, IR's report is probably spin from NE to reduce upsetting the apple cart on the team. Finally, Gary Uberstine was on 106.7. He used to be an agent and dealt with Allen a lot. He represented Kennan McCardell when he was holding out And he said he had dealt with Bruce Allen a lot and it would not suprprise him at all if he dug his heels in and refused to make a trade just out of obstinacy


It makes no sense as something that NE would do. If anything it's the opposite.
RE: RE: I believe Finlay  
Now Mike in MD : 8/22/2019 2:40 pm : link
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over IR. Finlay is pretty connected with the team. IR has a history of bad reporting. If anything, IR's report is probably spin from NE to reduce upsetting the apple cart on the team. Finally, Gary Uberstine was on 106.7. He used to be an agent and dealt with Allen a lot. He represented Kennan McCardell when he was holding out And he said he had dealt with Bruce Allen a lot and it would not suprprise him at all if he dug his heels in and refused to make a trade just out of obstinacy



It makes no sense as something that NE would do. If anything it's the opposite.


I disagree. If the current LT knows they are shopping for TW, it might make for a disjointed locker room. Why do you think that makes no sense?
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RobCarpenter : 8/22/2019 2:53 pm : link
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over IR. Finlay is pretty connected with the team. IR has a history of bad reporting. If anything, IR's report is probably spin from NE to reduce upsetting the apple cart on the team. Finally, Gary Uberstine was on 106.7. He used to be an agent and dealt with Allen a lot. He represented Kennan McCardell when he was holding out And he said he had dealt with Bruce Allen a lot and it would not suprprise him at all if he dug his heels in and refused to make a trade just out of obstinacy



It makes no sense as something that NE would do. If anything it's the opposite.



I disagree. If the current LT knows they are shopping for TW, it might make for a disjointed locker room. Why do you think that makes no sense?


Because the Patriots have let two LTs go in free agency and aren't about to spend massive draft capital on a 31 year old LT.
RE: I probably  
Thegratefulhead : 8/22/2019 2:57 pm : link
In comment 14539232 Jon in NYC said:
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would have taken that. Skins are far from competing, Williams is 31 and has no intentions of re-joining the team without a mega deal.
Patriots 1 is almost a 2 though. I would take a 1 from almost anyone else.
Williams  
Thegratefulhead : 8/22/2019 2:59 pm : link
Is a legit difference maker.
RE: I'm calling..  
UConn4523 : 8/22/2019 3:02 pm : link
In comment 14539244 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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BS on that report. At this point, the Skins should take what they can.


Same, no chance they turn that deal down. I also don't think BB would even offer that and then pay him on top of it.
We should start shining up Solder tonight  
Jimmy Googs : 8/22/2019 3:15 pm : link
and make the call to BB's office...
RE: RE: I probably  
Harvest Blend : 8/22/2019 3:16 pm : link
In comment 14539547 Thegratefulhead said:
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would have taken that. Skins are far from competing, Williams is 31 and has no intentions of re-joining the team without a mega deal.

Patriots 1 is almost a 2 though. I would take a 1 from almost anyone else.


LOL. You knew someone would say it.
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Now Mike in MD : 8/22/2019 3:36 pm : link
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over IR. Finlay is pretty connected with the team. IR has a history of bad reporting. If anything, IR's report is probably spin from NE to reduce upsetting the apple cart on the team. Finally, Gary Uberstine was on 106.7. He used to be an agent and dealt with Allen a lot. He represented Kennan McCardell when he was holding out And he said he had dealt with Bruce Allen a lot and it would not suprprise him at all if he dug his heels in and refused to make a trade just out of obstinacy



It makes no sense as something that NE would do. If anything it's the opposite.



I disagree. If the current LT knows they are shopping for TW, it might make for a disjointed locker room. Why do you think that makes no sense?



Because the Patriots have let two LTs go in free agency and aren't about to spend massive draft capital on a 31 year old LT.


I was misunderstanding what you were saying ne wouldnt do
If the offer was a first round selection from the Pats  
GeofromNJ : 8/22/2019 4:25 pm : link
the Redskins could be waiting for a better offer. Either an additional pick from the Pats or a 1st round selection from a team that's not likely to offer the 30-32 selection.
RE: If the offer was a first round selection from the Pats  
Diver_Down : 8/22/2019 4:56 pm : link
In comment 14539640 GeofromNJ said:
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the Redskins could be waiting for a better offer. Either an additional pick from the Pats or a 1st round selection from a team that's not likely to offer the 30-32 selection.


It was probably the Skins themselves planting a false story to hopefully drum up interest by other teams to offer more. The only truth to this whole issue is that Trent will never play for Washington. The org. has played the wrong hand with him thinking fines would force him to capitulate. Trent's made $95M. The fines would only be taken from future paychecks. They can pursue the pro-rated portion of his signing bonus ($1.6M), but that is hardly a figure that is punitive.
No way  
trueblueinpw : 8/22/2019 5:12 pm : link
Either side of the deal. No way.
RE: RE: If the offer was a first round selection from the Pats  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/22/2019 5:25 pm : link
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the Redskins could be waiting for a better offer. Either an additional pick from the Pats or a 1st round selection from a team that's not likely to offer the 30-32 selection.



It was probably the Skins themselves planting a false story to hopefully drum up interest by other teams to offer more. The only truth to this whole issue is that Trent will never play for Washington. The org. has played the wrong hand with him thinking fines would force him to capitulate. Trent's made $95M. The fines would only be taken from future paychecks. They can pursue the pro-rated portion of his signing bonus ($1.6M), but that is hardly a figure that is punitive.


Finley is reporting it and apparently he has never been wrong about anything Skins related. Banana land them turning this down, they won't get a better offer. Pats are probably overpaying a bit, which is crazy to say, but they are in a unique situation. Billy B is probably trying to rete to his boat once he gets 10 superbowl rings.
RE: RE: I believe Finlay  
bw in dc : 8/22/2019 5:50 pm : link
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It makes no sense as something that NE would do. If anything it's the opposite.


They are so unorthodox. They traded a first for Cooks on year and then let him go in FA the next.

Consider this. They may not feel Wynn is a good fit - yet - at LT. And Williams is almost a sure thing. A guy they could probably get another 3-4 good years from...So it could be plausible.
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