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NFT: New York Yankees @ Oakland A's - Game 3 - 9:37p

arcarsenal : 8/22/2019 6:25 pm
NYY (83-45)

1. DJ LeMahieu (R) 3B
2. Aaron Judge (R) RF
3. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
4. Gio Urshela (R) DH
5. Gary Sanchez (R) C
6. Brett Gardner (L) CF
7. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
8. Mike Tauchman (L) LF
9. Mike Ford (L) 1B

M. Tanaka (RHP): 144.0 IP, 9-6, 4.56/4.52


OAK (73-53)

1. Marcus Semien (R) SS
2. Robbie Grossman (S) LF
3. Matt Chapman (R) 3B
4. Matt Olson (L) 1B
5. Mark Canha (R) CF
6. Stephen Piscotty (R) RF
7. Khris Davis (R) DH
8. Corban Joseph (L) 2B
9. Josh Phegley (R) C

T. Roark (RHP): 128.0 IP, 7-8, 4.01/4.14


Looking to salvage one in the world's most obnoxious shithole of a ballpark. Need Masa to be a stopper tonight. His last two starts have been good - especially the 8 inning gem in Toronto.

Can't wait to get out of here and move onto LA. Let's go, Yanks!
Need a win tonight  
Carson53 : 8/22/2019 7:05 pm : link
I forgot they start at 9:30, that is actually good news.
They need good Tanaka tonight. Jump on Roark early and often!
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arcarsenal : 8/22/2019 7:33 pm : link
Yep - happy for the slightly earlier start.

These games are tough to stay up for. I've been doing it.. but I get up at 6 most days, and all these nights of 4-5 hours' sleep are starting to take a toll... my sleeping habits suck as it is.

Used to love the late, west coast games when I was younger. I think one of the biggest tell's that you're getting old is when you start hating the late West Coast start times. :)
A win tonight and  
Neckbone1333 : 8/22/2019 7:57 pm : link
loss by Rays would be huge. There is a chance we could only be up 5 games by end of week
Judge baby!  
adamg : 8/22/2019 9:40 pm : link
Oppo Double. He's getting back.
Arc  
adamg : 8/22/2019 9:41 pm : link
what are the two numbers you have there for pitchers?

Is it ERA/FIP?
Nvm  
adamg : 8/22/2019 9:54 pm : link
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Well I’ll know in about 5 minutes how long  
The_Boss : 8/22/2019 9:56 pm : link
I’m gonna give the game tonight...
First Inning  
Percy : 8/22/2019 10:04 pm : link
Yankees give up their normal three runs.
Yeah bad Tanaka tonight  
adamg : 8/22/2019 10:04 pm : link
At least with Tanaka it's clear which guy you're getting. Paxton will blow the first and then pitch great. Tanaka can pitch a shutout. Not tonight though.
They might have to take him out  
adamg : 8/22/2019 10:05 pm : link
31 pitches and 1 out

This is bad.
I can't believe he only gave up 3 runs  
adamg : 8/22/2019 10:09 pm : link
That was ridiculous
Brutal baserunning by Gary  
adamg : 8/22/2019 10:14 pm : link
Oi vey. Take the bad with the good. He's not a baserunner. Just has to keep hitting 40 homeruns a year.
Bounces back with a 7 pitch 2nd  
adamg : 8/22/2019 10:23 pm : link
alright
Happ last night and Tanaka tonight.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/22/2019 10:24 pm : link
Literally hate our starting pitching. Disgraceful.
this west coast trip could really turn out to be brutal  
Jints in Carolina : 8/22/2019 10:27 pm : link
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I mean  
adamg : 8/22/2019 10:28 pm : link
They were on a crazy streak. They're were bound to have a losing stretch.
16-3 isn't sustainable  
adamg : 8/22/2019 10:29 pm : link
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RE: 16-3 isn't sustainable  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/22/2019 10:30 pm : link
In comment 14540635 adamg said:
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Of course that type of winning isn't sustainable. Doesn't mean they have to get swept by Oakland, though. There is a middle-ground in there.
I am not saying it is sustainable  
Jints in Carolina : 8/22/2019 10:33 pm : link
but win one fucking game in Oakland.

The pitching is a huge concern.
RE: this west coast trip could really turn out to be brutal  
BH28 : 8/22/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14540629 Jints in Carolina said:
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Not just this west coast trip, the rest of the season schedule is brutal. 12 home games left, 21 on the road. Houston has a cake walk September so it's going to be a struggle to hold them off for best record in the AL
Between the defense, the base-running, and the inane  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/22/2019 10:35 pm : link
decision to play the IF in with TWO guys in scoring position, the Yanks aren't looking sharp in any phase.
I don't disagree with you guys  
adamg : 8/22/2019 10:36 pm : link
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I'm just not too nervous about the long term implications of this trip  
adamg : 8/22/2019 10:37 pm : link
I think it's just a shitty stretch. I'll be more concerned if Tanaka isn't pitching well come post season.
Then again  
adamg : 8/22/2019 10:38 pm : link
I haven't watched the past two days, so I'm not as pissed about it. lol
Wow  
adamg : 8/22/2019 10:42 pm : link
Gleyber mucked that up
Yanks are 15-26 vs OAK since 2013  
BH28 : 8/22/2019 10:43 pm : link
Including 7-20 in OAK. I fully expect them to take 2 of 3 against the As next week in the Bronx.

Really not surprising what we are seeing here.
They Are Not  
Percy : 8/22/2019 10:44 pm : link
Playing well tonight. Going to bed might be a better idea.
I had a feeling the series wouldn't be pretty,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/22/2019 10:45 pm : link
but I thought they would at least take 1 game. Oakland is like the Angels used to be when I was young. The Yankees never won there and Mark Langston would look like Cy Young every time they saw him.
Tanaka is just not locating tonight  
adamg : 8/22/2019 10:58 pm : link
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Wish we played more NL teams.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/22/2019 10:59 pm : link
The NL is brutal outside of the Dodgers. Mediocre to trash outside of LA.
Gleyber!  
adamg : 8/22/2019 11:07 pm : link
double. he's 2-2
Tauchy!  
adamg : 8/22/2019 11:09 pm : link
Singles in Torres

5-1
RE: Between the defense, the base-running, and the inane  
yatqb : 8/22/2019 11:19 pm : link
In comment 14540651 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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decision to play the IF in with TWO guys in scoring position, the Yanks aren't looking sharp in any phase.


Exactly.
Gleyber day!  
adamg : 8/22/2019 11:47 pm : link
3-3 today

5-2
Gleyber screws up his chance for the cycle  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/23/2019 12:27 am : link
by hitting another HR.
Torres again, he's a beast  
adamg : 8/23/2019 12:27 am : link
4-4 2 HR, 1 2B, 3 R


And the strike zone sucks  
adamg : 8/23/2019 12:28 am : link
I hate that they added the zone outline to the centerfield cam. Now you can really tell how bad the umps are.
Gleyber and DJ are the best players on this team this year.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/23/2019 12:29 am : link
Sorry Aaron and Gary. Doesn't mean Aaron and Gary won't retake that status next season, but this season has been the season of DJ and Gleyber from an offensive standpoint.

Amazing how deep this lineup is. We just need them all healthy at the same time.
Had playing the IF in prevented any of those 3 runs from scoring,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/23/2019 12:30 am : link
the game would still be going on.

Forget the sweep. Onto LA.
Sweep  
adamg : 8/23/2019 12:31 am : link
Oh well.

And Judge ended up 2-3 with a walk. He's slowly putting together a good stretch. Needs to keep it going.
RE: Had playing the IF in prevented any of those 3 runs from scoring,  
section125 : 8/23/2019 12:32 am : link
In comment 14540808 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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the game would still be going on.

Forget the sweep. Onto LA.


In field in is one of the dumbest defensive alignments in baseball. Like the bunt, someday metrics will show how bad it truly is, IMHO.
Impressed Tanaka made it 6  
adamg : 8/23/2019 12:34 am : link
after going over 30 pitches in that first and over 20 pitches in the third. Silver lining to a bad start.
More diappointing were the bats  
adamg : 8/23/2019 12:36 am : link
Outside of Torres and Judge. Silence.
The pitching staff isn't good:  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/23/2019 12:56 am : link
Tanaka Road ERA: 6.48
German Road ERA: 5.82
Paxton Road ERA: 5.21
Happ Road ERA: 5.62
Sabathia Road ERA: 6.95
RE: The pitching staff isn't good:  
adamg : 8/23/2019 1:25 am : link
In comment 14540817 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Tanaka Road ERA: 6.48
German Road ERA: 5.82
Paxton Road ERA: 5.21
Happ Road ERA: 5.62
Sabathia Road ERA: 6.95


Yeah. Definitely gambling on a good run over a short stretch. Idk what Cash could have done. Even adding Stroman to the rotation wouldn't do much. Just have to get lucky and hope the bats go crazy. But it's baseball. That's possible.
should the Red Sox go on a tear  
PaulBlakeTSU : 8/23/2019 8:01 am : link
like last season, the A's sweep could be what still keeps them out of the postseason. So now I'll go ice my hamstrings after that giant stretch of a silver lining.
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arcarsenal : 8/23/2019 8:01 am : link
Ugh. What a nightmare series. House of horrors to be sure.

Hasn't been a kind ballpark to the Yanks. I believe 7-21 since 2012. So, it's not even just this year - that place has been a problem for a while now. And who can blame them? Its probably annoying to try doing anything when a bunch of morons are pounding on drums and blowing horns completely out of sync for 3 hours straight.

Anyway... I know there's once again going to be a lot of concern over the pitching, and it's fair to wonder how we're going to make this work, but the postseason will be a different animal. Happ isn't going to get postseason starts - I think the Yanks will do a lot of mixing and matching to get innings and over the next month, they're going to figure out some roles that might work for different pitchers.

We have a lot of guys who should be able to give us more than an inning out of the pen. We may have to get creative and change up the conventional formulas even more - but I do think having the best bullpen in the majors will allow us to do some different things come postseason time.

I think the boys will be ready to play in LA and we'll see better results. Just gotta leave this series in the rearview and move on.
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Percy : 8/23/2019 8:54 am : link
In comment 14540927 arcarsenal said:
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Ugh. What a nightmare series. House of horrors to be sure.

Hasn't been a kind ballpark to the Yanks. I believe 7-21 since 2012. So, it's not even just this year - that place has been a problem for a while now. And who can blame them? Its probably annoying to try doing anything when a bunch of morons are pounding on drums and blowing horns completely out of sync for 3 hours straight.

Anyway... I know there's once again going to be a lot of concern over the pitching, and it's fair to wonder how we're going to make this work, but the postseason will be a different animal. Happ isn't going to get postseason starts - I think the Yanks will do a lot of mixing and matching to get innings and over the next month, they're going to figure out some roles that might work for different pitchers.

We have a lot of guys who should be able to give us more than an inning out of the pen. We may have to get creative and change up the conventional formulas even more - but I do think having the best bullpen in the majors will allow us to do some different things come postseason time.

I think the boys will be ready to play in LA and we'll see better results. Just gotta leave this series in the rearview and move on.


I did go to bed instead and am glad I did.

Blame the field, the West Coast trip, whatever. It's one thing to have to confront the weakness of Yankee starting pitching, which is demonstrably woeful), but another to be forced to face the fact that our HR-oriented batters can be and are being whipped by descent -- not just great, but descent --pitching.

We got a little suckered in there by brutalizing weak teams like the O's and a deflated Red Sox team, but now we're seeing that playing stronger teams (and the A's, earning a sweep, are not at the top of that heap) is different, exposing the limitations of this Yankee team. Love to beat the Dodgers convincingly, but facing their starting pitching could produce a very different result and leave the Yankees in tatters. I will watch avidly and hope for the best -- and the very best will be needed to prove that the Yankees thesis (great bull pens can get you through regardless of the weakness of your starters if your bats are strong) is sound.

It ain't over, folks and I fear it could be just the beginning of a demonstration that teams that ignore having great starting pitching do not come to a good end.
Oh well, season is over  
adamg : 8/23/2019 9:09 am : link
It was nice while it lasted. If only we had the beat record in the AL...

But alas, 3 losses in a row and now it ended.
Percy  
nygnyy274 : 8/23/2019 1:09 pm : link
What worries me is the Rays are playing the Orioles and I’m not saying it will happen but if did. The dodgers sweep and the rays sweep come Monday we are only 5 up with over a month to play. Yankees have a tough month ahead while the Rays do not. If the starting pitching was good I would not worry but you have to be a little worried come Monday if this happens. I hope and pray it does not
nygnyy274  
arniefez : 8/23/2019 1:54 pm : link
Why worry? Either they're good enough or they're not. Hopefully Severino and Betances will ride to the rescue or this year will be a repeat of last year. As currently constructed this team is an easy out in the playoffs. Starting pitchers who can't miss bats and hitters that are easy strikeouts are exactly the opposite of what wins World Series in the current MLB.
RE: nygnyy274  
nygnyy274 : 8/23/2019 4:22 pm : link
In comment 14541590 arniefez said:
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Why worry? Either they're good enough or they're not. Hopefully Severino and Betances will ride to the rescue or this year will be a repeat of last year. As currently constructed this team is an easy out in the playoffs. Starting pitchers who can't miss bats and hitters that are easy strikeouts are exactly the opposite of what wins World Series in the current MLB.


When are the coming back September call ups?
Yanks add Cody Gearrin off waivers from M’s  
Hsilwek92 : 8/23/2019 4:27 pm : link
Release Domingo Acevedo.

I assume they’ll try to re-sign Acevedo?
RE: Percy  
Percy : 8/23/2019 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14541520 nygnyy274 said:
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What worries me is the Rays are playing the Orioles and I’m not saying it will happen but if did. The dodgers sweep and the rays sweep come Monday we are only 5 up with over a month to play. Yankees have a tough month ahead while the Rays do not. If the starting pitching was good I would not worry but you have to be a little worried come Monday if this happens. I hope and pray it does not

Legit concern. Severino and Bettances are thought to be salvation here. Let's see. Maybe we'll get one or both. And maybe they'll be sharp. Or not. All eyes still awake tonight will be on the Yankees long before any real indication that salvation is even on its way.
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