Daniel Jones 25/30 83% 369 Yards 2 TD 0 Int 135 QB Rating...

it doesnt count..

It may be batting practice but I don’t remember a Giants QB playing that well or with those numbers in preseason in my life. Usually we are watching Eli stink it up rationalizing it only preseason.

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it doesnt count..

It doesn't count? The guy looked amazing, you cannot say that about Murray, Haskins and Lock.

guys its a joke. One of our better "fans" made the stupid comparison earlier.

is in three quarters of play.

but the stats are just a candy bar. The next step is how it translates week to week when you're being defensively scouted.

He did everything he had to do and more this preseason.

In comment 14540456 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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but the stats are just a candy bar. The next step is how it translates week to week when you're being defensively scouted. He did everything he had to do and more this preseason.

Pretty much this. He showed he is the goods. And he doesnt need to be rushed immediately either. So there is zero pressure on this kid when he comes in to perform. Eli had a great preseason as well, he will start and see how the season goes.

How any fan can not be excited by both Qbs right now is strange.

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guys its a joke. One of our better "fans" made the stupid comparison earlier.

Lol sorry dude

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it doesnt count..

LOL

the best we can say right now is that we are cautiously optimistic and that he throws a nice ball.

and just overall "feel" seem good to me. I think with experience, and time he will be very good. He looks the part and that's my biggest takeaway. He doesn't look like he's in over his head.

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guys its a joke. One of our better "fans" made the stupid comparison earlier.

I knew exactly who you were talking about. 😂👌

Eli is our starter so let’s support him and see how it goes.

Getting back to Jones, yes, he has shown me he has special skills with accuracy being one of them. Eli has never really been accurate. Heck, he can’t even throw short balls accurately, but Eli does have other skills and most of all experience reading defenses and checking down. I hope for Eli’s sake and ours that he doesn’t lay an egg in particular the first three games of the season. To be 0-3 depending on how good or bad he looks could get him yanked and then the Daniel Jones era officially begins. I don’t want to be 0-3 though so I don’t that doesn’t happen. We play Buffalo and Tampa as well as Dallas so we shouldn’t be 0-3. I think if he looks decent enough, even if 1-2 he will still start week 4.

calling Jones already a franchise quarterback. Now we'll see the usual suspects tell us how everyone thinks like this.

In comment 14540464 dep026 said:

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In comment 14540456 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: but the stats are just a candy bar. The next step is how it translates week to week when you're being defensively scouted. He did everything he had to do and more this preseason. Pretty much this. He showed he is the goods. And he doesnt need to be rushed immediately either. So there is zero pressure on this kid when he comes in to perform. Eli had a great preseason as well, he will start and see how the season goes. How any fan can not be excited by both Qbs right now is strange.

At this point I'm excited by 3 QBs, because I don't know who this guy is wearing LAULETTA on his back but he looks nothing like the Kyle Lauletta we saw last year.

Not have asked for a better start. Obviously regular season will present a different challenge with more complex defensive alignments and packages and adjustments but so far he’s checked all the boxes. Kid looks like the real deal.

kid looks like the real deal. Those that don't see it, don't want to see it.

We haven't seen him use his legs once and its one of his better traits out of college. 6'5 with track speed, saw him drag Christian Wilkins 5 yards during the Clemson game. We don't necessarily want him to run but he can if needed.

He's shown something every game. Perfect in a decisive and accurate drive in Game 1. Proves in the second game that he can bounce back from adversity. This game, he shows that he can drive the team down the field despite some iffy pass pro and penalties. Loving what I'm seeing so far.

DJ8 just amped it up to 80.

great throws but he needs to solve the fumbles

why not start him Week 1? This has been a moribund franchise and it needs a spark and a sense of excitement that Eli cannot bring at this stage. Eli will get booed at MetLife the first bad ball he throws. Eli may even play well, but he is not the future and this is not a championship caliber team. Allegiances and emotions aside it makes sense to make Jones the starter Week 1.

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Eli has been better in practice and played near perfectly this preseason. And right now is the better QB.

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. Eli has been better in practice and played near perfectly this preseason. And right now is the better QB.

I love Eli. But I am not sure if that is true. There is something about this kid that makes Eli look old. And I love Eli.

This year will be Eli’s last hurrah and it will be a big one. There’s zero good reason for DJ to start over Eli, as long as we are in contention.

For Eli to play well, for him and because if he's playing well then chances are the giants are playing well.

Nearly perfect and he played quite a bit.

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. Eli has been better in practice and played near perfectly this preseason. And right now is the better QB.

I’m not dissing Eli. He may be better, but he’s not the future. Move ahead and move on. We are not winning anything with or without Eli. The defense is not good. It’s gonna be Barkley right, Barkley Left. Let the kid run the offense and get a season’s worth of snaps behind him before we have a chance to contend next season or in 2021. I don’t believe Jones would embarrass himself.

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In comment 14540598 dep026 said: Quote: . Eli has been better in practice and played near perfectly this preseason. And right now is the better QB. I love Eli. But I am not sure if that is true. There is something about this kid that makes Eli look old. And I love Eli.

Well from every reporter and coach, Eli has been fantastic. He was 4-8 with 3 drops and was perfect last week too.

In comment 14540610 RDJR said:

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In comment 14540598 dep026 said: Quote: . Eli has been better in practice and played near perfectly this preseason. And right now is the better QB. I’m not dissing Eli. He may be better, but he’s not the future. Move ahead and move on. We are not winning anything with or without Eli. The defense is not good. It’s gonna be Barkley right, Barkley Left. Let the kid run the offense and get a season’s worth of snaps behind him before we have a chance to contend next season or in 2021. I don’t believe Jones would embarrass himself.

Then they should cut guys like Bethea and Golden and trade Jenkins then right?

Listen, we know the odds are against us. But giving up on the season before game 1 is not something the Giants not any team would do either. If they are out of it early, Jones will get plenty of snaps.

Patience young grasshopper.

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great throws but he needs to solve the fumbles

What could he have done about that fumble today?

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In comment 14540598 dep026 said: Quote: . Eli has been better in practice and played near perfectly this preseason. And right now is the better QB. I love Eli. But I am not sure if that is true. There is something about this kid that makes Eli look old. And I love Eli.

Well, he is old compared to Jones. Jones is the future, there is zero question about this. Eli playing 8-10 games this season isn't a big deal.

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In comment 14540589 Steve in ATL said: Quote: great throws but he needs to solve the fumbles What could he have done about that fumble today?

Not a damn thing which why fumbles by a QB is a tough stat to judge. Not all of them are on the QB.

in rookie/inexperienced QBs is for them to show a few "WOWs" and their ability to learn from mistakes. Not sure about Jones and item #2 but he has made some very accurate passes on balls over 20 yards.

Sort of makes me forget about Kyle Sloter.

The first one was a center exchange...Halapio still has not played a ton of C and Jones took most of his snaps from shotgun. There will be growing pains there.

The other two? It's obviously something you want him to be mindful of but at the same time you do want him to keep his eyes downfield and stand in there.

Experience will help in both instances.

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This year will be Eli’s last hurrah and it will be a big expensive one. There’s zero good reason for DJ to start over Eli, as long as we are in contention.

Fixed.

is going to make the leash on eli short. If he or the team get off to a slow start this season, the fans are not going to have the patience to sit back and watch another losing season . There are already calls for jones to start and the season hasn't even started yet

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. Eli has been better in practice and played near perfectly this preseason. And right now is the better QB.

But, so what if he is? The most important question is whether Daniel Jones is ready to play right now? If he is, then a good argument can be made that he should be starting. If he's not ready to play, then Eli should be the man. Playing Eli just to see if some magic happens (or a Kurt Warner-like 5-2 start) doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the future of the franchise if indeed the coaches believe Jones is ready to go.

Will always play the better guy. It’s really that simple. Jones will be the guy soon enough. It just won’t be week 1.

Is in his first year in this offense

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In comment 14540610 RDJR said: Quote: In comment 14540598 dep026 said: Quote: . Eli has been better in practice and played near perfectly this preseason. And right now is the better QB. I’m not dissing Eli. He may be better, but he’s not the future. Move ahead and move on. We are not winning anything with or without Eli. The defense is not good. It’s gonna be Barkley right, Barkley Left. Let the kid run the offense and get a season’s worth of snaps behind him before we have a chance to contend next season or in 2021. I don’t believe Jones would embarrass himself. Then they should cut guys like Bethea and Golden and trade Jenkins then right? Listen, we know the odds are against us. But giving up on the season before game 1 is not something the Giants not any team would do either. If they are out of it early, Jones will get plenty of snaps. Patience young grasshopper.

I wasn’t a fan of the Bethea or Golden signings. This is the “we want to contend and rebuild at the same time” problem. Can’t do both. I think there is still a level of wishful thinking from ownership and management that they can pull a rabbit out of the hat one more time with Eli. John Mara’s public comments support this idea. I believe the 2007 and 2011 magic carpet rides created this. I believe we should be playing the young kids that are going to be the foundation of the franchise.

And if he gets overwhelmed or bombs, then bring Eli in from the bullpen.

The Daniel Jones Era is here. Time to find out how far he can take this under live fire...

In a hurry isn't usually the best way to go about things. What's the rush?

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I wasn’t a fan of the Bethea or Golden signings. This is the “we want to contend and rebuild at the same time” problem. Can’t do both. I think there is still a level of wishful thinking from ownership and management that they can pull a rabbit out of the hat one more time with Eli. John Mara’s public comments support this idea. I believe the 2007 and 2011 magic carpet rides created this. I believe we should be playing the young kids that are going to be the foundation of the franchise.

It's usually a good thing to have some veteran players on a young team.

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In a hurry isn't usually the best way to go about things. What's the rush?

Fail forward my friend. Fail forward.

should take his lumps now and get his experience THIS year. However, the Giants allowed a $20M+ quarterback to remain on the team. Because of that alone, they have to play the guy.
It's known as "paying for your mistake".

but what has eli done or shown in recent years that proves he deserves to be the starter?

The luxury of better grasping the offense before hitting the field.

Tankers Away.

them giving Eli one final shot but I am not convinced that he gives the team the best chance to win. I have seen nothing from Jones to suggest that he is not capable of starting and playing well like many rookie QBs have in recent years.

It seems the consensus is that they will give Eli at least half the season. I would make the leash shorter than that.