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So you want to move Ereck Flowers to guard?

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/23/2019 8:25 am
Yikes...
https://twitter.com/JordanDajani/status/1164698088906383360 - ( New Window )
Oof - that was bad  
Eli Wilson : 8/23/2019 8:27 am : link
It looked like his feet were stuck in mud.
It almost looks like  
truebluelarry : 8/23/2019 8:28 am : link
Flowers intentionally moved out of the way to give the defender a direct path to the QB!
T minus  
Les in TO : 8/23/2019 8:28 am : link
3 weeks until he’s starting his new career as a bouncer
Hahaha  
jimvinct : 8/23/2019 8:29 am : link
Hahahahahaha
LOL  
ZogZerg : 8/23/2019 8:29 am : link
Guy is playing in quicksand.
He thought DT was going right and was burned.
Also  
George : 8/23/2019 8:30 am : link
He got flagged for holding on a third and goal from the one, on a play that otherwise would’ve gone for six. Instead the Foreskins has to settle for three. It was ugly.
Dios mio  
mfsd : 8/23/2019 8:30 am : link
He’s just awful. I hope the Skins are forced to start him all season
we took him ahead of Todd Gurley.....  
Jints in Carolina : 8/23/2019 8:31 am : link
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Was watching the WASH CIN game from earlier...  
Dan in the Springs : 8/23/2019 8:31 am : link
and saw him make a move I'm calling the "Flowers". He's the only guy who I've seen do this regularly and can't figure out why.

As the defender makes a move upfield he puts his head down, almost like he's going to spear him with his head.

Anyone remember him doing that regularly with us? What's that all about?

Anyway, he clearly hasn't fixed what's going on in his head and now that he's inside at guard defenders have a shorter path to the QB. Scary for WASH.
Maybe he'd be better as  
Pete in MD : 8/23/2019 8:32 am : link
a security guard?
No matter how pleased I am he's a Redskin now  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/23/2019 8:33 am : link
and likely to start even, I still have a bitter taste in my mouth that JR and the Giants wasted a high first round pick on this turkey.

Try not to float, men.
Gloat...  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/23/2019 8:34 am : link
not float.
Wow terrible  
Lines of Scrimmage : 8/23/2019 8:34 am : link
That's how you put your QB on IR.
man  
gidiefor : Mod : 8/23/2019 8:37 am : link
he can't bend and he is so unagile -- and he loses interest in the paly once he blows it -- that play tape is so very Eric Flowers -- thank god he's not a Giant anymore
RE: we took him ahead of Todd Gurley.....  
Saos1n : 8/23/2019 8:38 am : link
In comment 14540974 Jints in Carolina said:
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I don’t like you, anymore
Getting beat by a great player...  
bw in dc : 8/23/2019 8:38 am : link
like Jack Crawford is certainly understandable... ; )
RE: we took him ahead of Todd Gurley.....  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/23/2019 8:40 am : link
In comment 14540974 Jints in Carolina said:
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When Gurley kept falling I was very happy. Thought he would be a great fit. That being said, behind our OL, he'd probably have sucked!!
He's not even upright  
Bill in Del : 8/23/2019 8:44 am : link
and the def lineman is already past him. While we're at it, that center didn't look that great either.

RE: Was watching the WASH CIN game from earlier...  
sb from NYT Forum : 8/23/2019 8:48 am : link
In comment 14540975 Dan in the Springs said:
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As the defender makes a move upfield he puts his head down, almost like he's going to spear him with his head.

Anyone remember him doing that regularly with us? What's that all about?


I think it’s called being a pussy.
That  
Chef : 8/23/2019 8:48 am : link
right there is not even funny..
LOL - "He almost touched him"...  
x meadowlander : 8/23/2019 8:53 am : link
...OMG.

Hate to say it, he does not belong on an Offensive Line. Maybe XFL.

Is it too late to try him at DT?
RE: Was watching the WASH CIN game from earlier...  
regulator : 8/23/2019 8:54 am : link
In comment 14540975 Dan in the Springs said:
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and saw him make a move I'm calling the "Flowers". He's the only guy who I've seen do this regularly and can't figure out why.

As the defender makes a move upfield he puts his head down, almost like he's going to spear him with his head.

Anyone remember him doing that regularly with us? What's that all about?


CONSTANTLY.
That HB was caught completely by surprise  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/23/2019 9:17 am : link
By how fast the dlineman got in the backfield.
Your Delta name is...  
gmenatlarge : 8/23/2019 9:18 am : link
Flounder!
America is a great place  
BillT : 8/23/2019 9:25 am : link
Eric Flowers has already earned almost $16m. Where else can you be as bad as he has been and become a multi millionaire.
RE: Was watching the WASH CIN game from earlier...  
map7711 : 8/23/2019 9:32 am : link
In comment 14540975 Dan in the Springs said:
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and saw him make a move I'm calling the "Flowers". He's the only guy who I've seen do this regularly and can't figure out why.

As the defender makes a move upfield he puts his head down, almost like he's going to spear him with his head.

Anyone remember him doing that regularly with us? What's that all about?

Anyway, he clearly hasn't fixed what's going on in his head and now that he's inside at guard defenders have a shorter path to the QB. Scary for WASH.


Dropping his head was what the Giants tried for years to have him stop doing. He was either unwilling to stop or unable to stop. Either way, not good. Up against a halfway decent NFL D lineman, dropping your head is the kiss of death. You’re done. They will eat your lunch.
Meanwhile in Philly  
RobCarpenter : 8/23/2019 9:35 am : link
And not to beat a dead horse here but  
map7711 : 8/23/2019 9:42 am : link
That’s why you don’t draft a OL with technique issues in the first round that you have to develop. Technique is wayyy more important for a OL than size or strength. You can draft a “project” in the later rounds and hope he finally gets it but not in the first round and certainly not as high as he was drafted.
I'll always wonder...  
Zepp : 8/23/2019 9:44 am : link
what did Jerry Reese see on tape that made him think he was worth a high pick?
RE: RE: we took him ahead of Todd Gurley.....  
Jints in Carolina : 8/23/2019 9:45 am : link
In comment 14540992 Saos1n said:
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In comment 14540974 Jints in Carolina said:


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I don’t like you, anymore


HA!
RE: And not to beat a dead horse here but  
MM_in_NYC : 8/23/2019 9:46 am : link
In comment 14541112 map7711 said:
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That’s why you don’t draft a OL with technique issues in the first round that you have to develop. Technique is wayyy more important for a OL than size or strength. You can draft a “project” in the later rounds and hope he finally gets it but not in the first round and certainly not as high as he was drafted.


Very good point. This is big part of Boylhart's philosophy for o-line eval too.
RE: I'll always wonder...  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/23/2019 9:47 am : link
In comment 14541119 Zepp said:
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what did Jerry Reese see on tape that made him think he was worth a high pick?

By all indications, just some really lazy scouting. Eli Apple ffs!
RE: I'll always wonder...  
mfsd : 8/23/2019 9:47 am : link
In comment 14541119 Zepp said:
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what did Jerry Reese see on tape that made him think he was worth a high pick?


Probably liked his 3 cone time. I’m sure Marvin Austin’s was good too...
I wonder  
RollBlue : 8/23/2019 9:48 am : link
if we are concerned with Solder's play at LT? You could show at least three highlights of his play last night that were just as bad, and he's getting paid a TON!!!
RE: Oof - that was bad  
djstat : 8/23/2019 9:50 am : link
In comment 14540960 Eli Wilson said:
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It looked like his feet were stuck in mud.
I was screaming two years ago when people here were crying for him to move inside to guard, that he did not have the feet to play guard.
RE: I'll always wonder...  
RobCarpenter : 8/23/2019 9:52 am : link
In comment 14541119 Zepp said:
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what did Jerry Reese see on tape that made him think he was worth a high pick?


I think Reese left it to Ross, who either didn't seem to ever actually watch any game tape or is blind. Or both.

I know Hernandez had a poor showing last night, but he's light years better than any OL Reese/Ross ever picked.
RE: I'll always wonder...  
Ira : 8/23/2019 9:52 am : link
In comment 14541119 Zepp said:
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what did Jerry Reese see on tape that made him think he was worth a high pick?


What he saw was a big, strong guy with quick feet and awful technique which hadn't started to improve. Sometimes coaches and scouts feel that they can coach a guy like that up.
Flowers  
AcidTest : 8/23/2019 10:03 am : link
has terrible feet, and no lateral agility. Many of the OL Reese drafted had the same problems.
Flowers and Apple  
Marty866b : 8/23/2019 10:09 am : link
Two of the main reasons why we have been crap. Probably the two reasons why Reese has not been offered a job in the league.
Woof.  
Britt in VA : 8/23/2019 10:12 am : link
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It is somewhat remarkable that Flowers has  
Jimmy Googs : 8/23/2019 10:17 am : link
continued to get worse every year he has been in the league.

Is there a floor?
Flowers seems to react to the first miniscule twitch exhibited by  
GeofromNJ : 8/23/2019 10:32 am : link
a defender rather than hold his position until the defender actually moves. Once the defender makes his move, Erich is way too slow to redirect. I would feel sorry for the guy if not for the fact that he has a lot more money than I do.
You guys remember last preseason and the first few games  
mfsd : 8/23/2019 10:48 am : link
when the right side of our OL couldn’t even pick up a basic stunt? Yeah I don’t miss that
Drafting him was not the worst mistake  
averagejoe : 8/23/2019 10:52 am : link
Giants made. They started him for four years and wasted the prime of Eli's career. This preseason I can hardly recognize Eli standing upright. The Flowers and Apple picks insured Reese will be unemployed forever.
I actually thought Flowers did better than normal in that clip  
PatersonPlank : 8/23/2019 10:53 am : link
He seems to have made brief contact with the DT.
What's wrong!?  
HoustonGiant : 8/23/2019 11:11 am : link
I fully supported his move to guard.....for the Redskins.
How we picked him so high  
5BowlsSoon : 8/23/2019 11:14 am : link
Is still a mystery to me.
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ghost718 : 8/23/2019 12:07 pm : link
Marc Ross has a few things to say  
Mr. Bungle : 8/23/2019 12:11 pm : link
to all you assholes...

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Is he still the starting LG  
Jay on the Island : 8/23/2019 12:18 pm : link
?
we should've traded down.  
Platos : 8/23/2019 12:18 pm : link
like... for anything.
reese should've felt some sort of pit in his stomache and just traded down.

i'm not even upset about not drafting gurley as he had injury issues. we should've definitely drafted larry tunsil in 2016, or taylor decker. anyone but eli apple. i literally had to look up who he even was.
RE: T minus  
NYDCBlue : 8/23/2019 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14540963 Les in TO said:
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3 weeks until he’s starting his new career as a bouncer


Bouncers still have to block.... This is not the guy you want guarding your door. I think even I could sneak past him and get into that party! :)
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