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Chris Carter impressed with Daniel Jones

BSIMatt : 8/23/2019 10:30 am
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Chris Carter liking Daniel Jones - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/23/2019 10:31 am : link
I'm not impressed with Chris Carter.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/23/2019 10:32 am : link
But I am impressed by Reuben Droughns.
Dorsey Levens was impressive vs. the Eagles.  
Britt in VA : 8/23/2019 10:32 am : link
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RE: Dorsey Levens was impressive vs. the Eagles.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/23/2019 10:33 am : link
In comment 14541225 Britt in VA said:
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Was it Levens? I botched that one.
RE: Dorsey Levens was impressive vs. the Eagles.  
Jints in Carolina : 8/23/2019 10:35 am : link
In comment 14541225 Britt in VA said:
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that was the greatest. he was on the front page for like 6 months.
Definitely Levens.  
Britt in VA : 8/23/2019 10:35 am : link
Chris Canty with a great take on Manning/Jones. Voice of reason.
Not this shit again!  
Big Blue '56 : 8/23/2019 10:38 am : link
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The difference between Canty and Carter speaking  
dep026 : 8/23/2019 10:38 am : link
Is night and day.
RE: RE: Dorsey Levens was impressive vs. the Eagles.  
FranknWeezer : 8/23/2019 10:41 am : link
In comment 14541227 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14541225 Britt in VA said:


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Was it Levens? I botched that one.


Dammit Eric
Someone should tell David Cutcliffe  
Mr. Bungle : 8/23/2019 10:41 am : link
that he didn't run a Duke offense in which Jones threw passes like that.

"If he deeed, he wouldn't have been there at 6! If he was that guuuuud!"

Apparently, Cris Carter knows something nobody else does.

That guy is awful.

In 2 weeks he'll hate him again  
PatersonPlank : 8/23/2019 10:42 am : link
Plus he will always love that bust Haskins
I’m impressed with his newfound humility but...  
5BowlsSoon : 8/23/2019 10:49 am : link
He said he never saw Jones make those throws at Duke.....this is BS! Just look at that YouTube video on Jones. He makes a lot of great throws. What is he talking about? Like carter said, he liked Haskins so his agenda was to mock Jones to elevate his boy Haskins.
RE: I’m impressed with his newfound humility but...  
Blue21 : 8/23/2019 10:52 am : link
In comment 14541253 5BowlsSoon said:
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He said he never saw Jones make those throws at Duke.....this is BS! Just look at that YouTube video on Jones. He makes a lot of great throws. What is he talking about? Like carter said, he liked Haskins so his agenda was to mock Jones to elevate his boy Haskins.


He probably never watched Jones or any of his videos from Duke. He was probably just rambling what he heard from other "experts" who never followed Jones either.
He'd never have time to make throws like that and if he  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/23/2019 10:53 am : link
did his guys would just drop it. I wonder if Jones develepoed his amazing touch because of shitty wrs.
He and Stephen A. Smith should team up. Dip and Shit.  
Jints in Carolina : 8/23/2019 10:57 am : link
They can talk about Jones and Lawrence Taylor.

It is amazing to me  
ryanmkeane : 8/23/2019 11:00 am : link
and actually somewhat astounding that these media people are STILL dying on the hill of "you have to be amazing in college to be good in the pros"

We have seen time and time again that literally, it pretty much has no bearing on NFL success.
Eric...  
ryanmkeane : 8/23/2019 11:01 am : link
how funny is it to see the media now all on the Jones bandwagon? When they were literally laughing in their seats on draft night?

This Jones situation is the prime example of how much the media sucks. Well...the majority of them anyway.
RE: Eric...  
Jints in Carolina : 8/23/2019 11:04 am : link
In comment 14541274 ryanmkeane said:
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how funny is it to see the media now all on the Jones bandwagon? When they were literally laughing in their seats on draft night?

This Jones situation is the prime example of how much the media sucks. Well...the majority of them anyway.


No they suck. All of them. It is all about clicks.
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ghost718 : 8/23/2019 11:04 am : link
RE: It is amazing to me  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/23/2019 11:09 am : link
In comment 14541273 ryanmkeane said:
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and actually somewhat astounding that these media people are STILL dying on the hill of "you have to be amazing in college to be good in the pros"

We have seen time and time again that literally, it pretty much has no bearing on NFL success.


People still don't think football is a team sport and great players are what it takes to win. If it was all the quarterbacks they would take a higher percentage of the cap than they do. The reason qb are still overpaid as a whole is not because of great qb play being extremely conducive to winning, but how fastly poor qb play can sink you. It is more a negative feedback loop.
RE: I’m impressed with his newfound humility but...  
BSIMatt : 8/23/2019 11:10 am : link
In comment 14541253 5BowlsSoon said:
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He said he never saw Jones make those throws at Duke.....this is BS! Just look at that YouTube video on Jones. He makes a lot of great throws. What is he talking about? Like carter said, he liked Haskins so his agenda was to mock Jones to elevate his boy Haskins.


Carter never watched a snap of Jones at Duke...but he certainly had a lot to say about a guy he never watched play...I can’t stand Carter..only shared it so BBI fans could watch him eat some crow.
I'd love to see Jones Duke coach from college and Carter  
Blue21 : 8/23/2019 11:10 am : link
have a debate on Jones from college play. I'd pay for that. Carter talking like his 18 years in the media he knows everything about drafting talent and Jones didn't play like that in college or play in that style offense. I call BS. I'm just glad at the end he starts to recant what he originally said and admits it looks like Gettlemen knew what he was doing. Ironically he now straddles the fence so no matter how Jones turns out he'll land on the right side of it.
Carter quote  
Burtman : 8/23/2019 11:20 am : link
"(Coach Shurmur)saying that's the guy that we saw... he wouldn't have been there at 6. Alright, he wouldn't have been there at 6 if he was that good. They would have won more games at Duke"

So now he's calling Shurmur a liar about knowing Jones was that good. Shurmur knew. Gettleman knew. Chris Carter didn't know. That's the truth
RE: Carter quote  
Jints in Carolina : 8/23/2019 11:22 am : link
In comment 14541301 Burtman said:
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"(Coach Shurmur)saying that's the guy that we saw... he wouldn't have been there at 6. Alright, he wouldn't have been there at 6 if he was that good. They would have won more games at Duke"

So now he's calling Shurmur a liar about knowing Jones was that good. Shurmur knew. Gettleman knew. Chris Carter didn't know. That's the truth


and yet this ass wipe will get to spew nonsense as fact week after week and get paid for it.
This must be a deep fake  
Strahan91 : 8/23/2019 11:23 am : link
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he's so full of himself  
I Love Clams Casino : 8/23/2019 11:23 am : link
Lets not forget why the Eagles got rid of this douche
eat shit  
Jints in Carolina : 8/23/2019 11:26 am : link
Carter probably didn't see too many throws "like that" from Jones  
CT Charlie : 8/23/2019 11:28 am : link
because he watched highlight tapes. A lot of good throws by Jones "like that" were dropped and didn't make the tape. Still, most of us were able find more inclusive videos, and anyone with a pair of eyes could see that Jones was an accurate passer.
RE: eat shit  
Dave in PA : 8/23/2019 11:28 am : link
In comment 14541310 Jints in Carolina said:
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never gets old. Best game I’ve ever been to!
You can throw Louis Riddick in with Carter  
BSIMatt : 8/23/2019 11:35 am : link
He’s got an axe to grind with Giants, and when praising Jones when comparing him to Haskins he’s got to qualify it somehow so he throws in “I like how the Giants are managing Jones, they are setting him up for success”, then to Haskins “the Redskins are asking him to push it downfield more”.

Translation: I called out Giants for taking Jones over Haskins and the only way to explain the disparity in their performances thus far is the coaching staffs. Lmao...Riddick is an idiot.
He did eat some humble pie and didn't do a bad job of it. And he  
Ira : 8/23/2019 11:36 am : link
did make a positive mention of the Giants ownership which might have been a weak attempt to make up for that remark regarding racism. I would have liked to have seen him take it further, but it's clear that he realizes that he was wrong about Jones and he admitted it.
it was good to see him own the mistake  
islander1 : 8/23/2019 11:42 am : link
there's that.
What an idiot. Chris, be a professional.  
George from PA : 8/23/2019 11:47 am : link
The pass after he got hit on the side was not a TD.

After eating crow, at least get your facts right.
RE: Someone should tell David Cutcliffe  
Zepp : 8/23/2019 11:48 am : link
In comment 14541240 Mr. Bungle said:
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that he didn't run a Duke offense in which Jones threw passes like that.

"If he deeed, he wouldn't have been there at 6! If he was that guuuuud!"

Apparently, Cris Carter knows something nobody else does.

That guy is awful.


What the hell is that? The guy doesn't even talk like that.
RE: He did eat some humble pie and didn't do a bad job of it. And he  
Zepp : 8/23/2019 11:50 am : link
In comment 14541329 Ira said:
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did make a positive mention of the Giants ownership which might have been a weak attempt to make up for that remark regarding racism. I would have liked to have seen him take it further, but it's clear that he realizes that he was wrong about Jones and he admitted it.


Yeah exactly. The guy is basically admitting he was wrong. Give him credit.

Other guys wouldn't even do that. Has Adam Schein admitted he was wrong for saying Saquon Barkley was a bad pick or that DG is clueless? No one gets on him for that.
Some of the best  
ryanmkeane : 8/23/2019 11:50 am : link
quarterbacks of all time never won a super bowl. Some waited their entire career to win before finally doing it at the end of their career. it is baffling that the media is still not seeing it.
RE: You can throw Louis Riddick in with Carter  
Fred in Atlanta : 8/23/2019 11:53 am : link
In comment 14541324 BSIMatt said:
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He’s got an axe to grind with Giants, and when praising Jones when comparing him to Haskins he’s got to qualify it somehow so he throws in “I like how the Giants are managing Jones, they are setting him up for success”, then to Haskins “the Redskins are asking him to push it downfield more”.

Translation: I called out Giants for taking Jones over Haskins and the only way to explain the disparity in their performances thus far is the coaching staffs. Lmao...Riddick is an idiot.


Haskins has completed a total of 4 passes over 20 yards in 40 attempts, while Jones completed 8 over 20 yards in 30 attempts. So I quess Haskins must be throwing downfield a lot, he is just not completing them.
RE: RE: But I thought the Giants were racist for taking Jones over Haskins?  
ColHowPepper : 8/23/2019 12:10 pm : link
In comment 14541286 Jints in Carolina said:
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...race baiting is a full time job in this country.
It's sad that this type of sentiment makes it into a football community thread. Sad but true, that sentiment.
RE: I'd love to see Jones Duke coach from college and Carter  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/23/2019 12:46 pm : link
In comment 14541289 Blue21 said:
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have a debate on Jones from college play. I'd pay for that. Carter talking like his 18 years in the media he knows everything about drafting talent and Jones didn't play like that in college or play in that style offense. I call BS. I'm just glad at the end he starts to recant what he originally said and admits it looks like Gettlemen knew what he was doing. Ironically he now straddles the fence so no matter how Jones turns out he'll land on the right side of it.

Take a cue from butthurt Kurt.
RE: I’m impressed with his newfound humility but...  
santacruzom : 8/23/2019 12:52 pm : link
In comment 14541253 5BowlsSoon said:
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He said he never saw Jones make those throws at Duke.....this is BS! Just look at that YouTube video on Jones. He makes a lot of great throws. What is he talking about?


I didn't take it THAT literally. The gist is that he wasn't playing as well overall at Duke as he is in his first NFL preseason. Shouldn't be that controversial a thing to say, right?
RE: RE: He did eat some humble pie and didn't do a bad job of it. And he  
santacruzom : 8/23/2019 12:56 pm : link
In comment 14541370 Zepp said:
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In comment 14541329 Ira said:


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did make a positive mention of the Giants ownership which might have been a weak attempt to make up for that remark regarding racism. I would have liked to have seen him take it further, but it's clear that he realizes that he was wrong about Jones and he admitted it.



Yeah exactly. The guy is basically admitting he was wrong. Give him credit.

Other guys wouldn't even do that. Has Adam Schein admitted he was wrong for saying Saquon Barkley was a bad pick or that DG is clueless? No one gets on him for that.


That's probably because Adam Schein never lost a game to us 41-0, so we can't ascribe some vendetta motive to everything he says.
Chris Carter is a hack  
tyrik13 : 8/23/2019 1:01 pm : link
He most definitely did not watch Jones at the college level because if he did, he would’ve seen Jones MAKE those types of throws, the problem is his wr ‘s dropped them every damn time.
RE: Eric...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/23/2019 1:06 pm : link
In comment 14541274 ryanmkeane said:
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how funny is it to see the media now all on the Jones bandwagon? When they were literally laughing in their seats on draft night?

This Jones situation is the prime example of how much the media sucks. Well...the majority of them anyway.


They are almost unwatchable. It's one of the major reasons why so many people are cutting the cord.
Let’s not forget that CC went to ‘The’ OSU ...  
Spider56 : 8/23/2019 1:12 pm : link
A lot of what he thinks of Haskins is probably based on loyalty to a fellow alum ... Imagine the hate DJ would have gotten had he gone to Michigan.
I gotta tell you, guys,  
81_Great_Dane : 8/23/2019 1:19 pm : link
having been a reporter and a columnist, and having worked among reporters for a long-ass time, what they write generally isn't personal. As in, they usually don't have any strong feelings about the subject they're covering, and if they do, that's not what motivates coverage.

It's a super-competitive business and reporters/columnists/commentators are much more motivated by constant competition and the insecurity that comes with it. Everybody's racing for the next scoop. With opinion, it's being both accurate and provocative. Being a must-read or a must-watch. Same with talk radio.

Big exception: I worked for an editor who used his position to reward his friends and punish his enemies. But he had the power to do that — the reporters working for him, including me, didn't have that power. We were just under pressure to bring in scoops every goddam day.

I don't care much for Chris Carter or Kurt Warner but I doubt that what they say is personal. Who at the Giants would Kurt Warner hold a grudge against at this point? The owners he played for are dead. The coaches and GM are long gone. Same with Carter. The Giants that he played against are ancient history. I don't think ex-NFLers in the media business root for (or against) "laundry" the way we fans do. Yeah, some guys are Giants for life, or Cowboys for life. But now they're in a different business where they are easily replaced if they're lazy or unfair.
I don't know how you can insinuate that a team is racist....  
Britt in VA : 8/23/2019 1:27 pm : link
for passing on Haskins for Jones without it being personal to everybody involved (owner, management, Jones).
Mike Francessa calling Dave Gettleman a loser....  
Britt in VA : 8/23/2019 1:28 pm : link
felt personal.
RE: You can throw Louis Riddick in with Carter  
WillVAB : 8/23/2019 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14541324 BSIMatt said:
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He’s got an axe to grind with Giants, and when praising Jones when comparing him to Haskins he’s got to qualify it somehow so he throws in “I like how the Giants are managing Jones, they are setting him up for success”, then to Haskins “the Redskins are asking him to push it downfield more”.

Translation: I called out Giants for taking Jones over Haskins and the only way to explain the disparity in their performances thus far is the coaching staffs. Lmao...Riddick is an idiot.


Plenty of dumbasses here cried when “Jints Central” chose Gettleman over Riddick.
RE: ...  
DavidinBMNY : 8/23/2019 6:12 pm : link
In comment 14541221 Eric from BBI said:
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I'm not impressed with Chris Carter.
I don't mind seeing him eat humble pie though.
Definitely agree with the folks  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/23/2019 7:11 pm : link
who said that unfortunately race has something to do with Carter, Anderson, and Riddick getting on Jones and the Giants due the racial factor. It's sad.
RE: RE: It is amazing to me  
djm : 8/23/2019 9:35 pm : link
In comment 14541287 Zeke's Alibi said:
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and actually somewhat astounding that these media people are STILL dying on the hill of "you have to be amazing in college to be good in the pros"

We have seen time and time again that literally, it pretty much has no bearing on NFL success.



People still don't think football is a team sport and great players are what it takes to win. If it was all the quarterbacks they would take a higher percentage of the cap than they do. The reason qb are still overpaid as a whole is not because of great qb play being extremely conducive to winning, but how fastly poor qb play can sink you. It is more a negative feedback loop.


Yup
RE: RE: You can throw Louis Riddick in with Carter  
joeinpa : 8/24/2019 8:00 am : link
In comment 14541378 Fred in Atlanta said:
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In comment 14541324 BSIMatt said:


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He’s got an axe to grind with Giants, and when praising Jones when comparing him to Haskins he’s got to qualify it somehow so he throws in “I like how the Giants are managing Jones, they are setting him up for success”, then to Haskins “the Redskins are asking him to push it downfield more”.

Translation: I called out Giants for taking Jones over Haskins and the only way to explain the disparity in their performances thus far is the coaching staffs. Lmao...Riddick is an idiot.



Haskins has completed a total of 4 passes over 20 yards in 40 attempts, while Jones completed 8 over 20 yards in 30 attempts. So I quess Haskins must be throwing downfield a lot, he is just not completing them.


These people throw narratives out there then spin reporting to support a false narrative. They will never admit they are wrong and are best ignored.

Being bothered by what they say or countering their arguments is an act of futility and will only leave you frustrated. He could win two Super Bowls and the critics will call it a fluke, sound familiar?
not one of the said Eli  
bc4life : 8/24/2019 9:48 am : link
should be starting because he's earned it and has played very well in the pre-season.

Canty - Eli had 5-6 losing seasons - completely ignores the fact that he was surrounded by a mediocre supporting cast.

RE: Carter "That's not what we saw in college" Shurmur and Gettleman drafted him based on what they saw in college. WTF?
If you want to discuss racism or race  
gidiefor : Mod : 8/24/2019 4:01 pm : link
do it somewhere else -- a continuation of this subject matter here will result in a loss of posting privileges
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