Pat Shurmur Quote on Daniel Jones

it’s more than a players game. it’s a front office game. it’s a “fortune” game of injury and bounce.
So much of career and legend depend on what is not in qb control that the terms “ franchise qb”, etc really are external to the qb that they become AMOST meaningless.
I just pray the surrounding elements some of which i mentioned above, roll in our and Jones favor that many of you will be having this same discussion about DJ more than a decade from now.

In comment 14541508 Canton said:

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And another, actual star, beginning to fade to the foreground, is a bit disheartening. This photo says it all.. I hope Eli can have his one last hurrah this season.

Eli had plenty of reporters around him right after this was taken.

Let the guy put on his shoes for crissakes

on a question from a coach I've ever heard.

I was critical of the pick.

My main issue with him was a form of spacial recognition/anticipation with regards to where defenders will be by the time the ball reach its target.

I saw a number of plays where he threw into a windo only considering the primary defender covering the reciever. He wasn't considering secondary defenders. I.E. Bracket coverage, either over under, or inside outside. It seems like he only accounted for one of them. Another situations was a secondary defender reading and jumping on the play. Like a corner reading the throw and pealing off the outside guy to jump the inside route. We won't know about these issues until real bullets are flying and defenses are disguising coverages.

That said, I am quite happy that he has far exceeded my expectations so far. He has looked really good. Hoping he keeps it going.

I was hard pressed to find any place more hysterical about this pick than BBI when it happened.

In comment 14542103 joeinpa said:

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I was hard pressed to find any place more hysterical about this pick than BBI when it happened.

Todd Mcshay called gettleman an idiot and called jones a 3rd day pick who would be a career back up..

Every radio show killed gettleman and said the giants were run by morons

A team with four Lombardis added to the trophy case over the past 30 years. The same Francesa who never criticizes Jim Dolan.

If Jones is good, Gettleman should brag about it every day for the rest of his life.

In comment 14541422 Britt in VA said:

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is doing or has done. Let's not twist it to make people feel better for acting like complete fools, here or anywhere else. The reaction to the Jones pick was over the top foolishness, regardless of how it turns out.

Jones is a top 3 QB before his rookie contract ends and he wins multiple rings under Shurmur. Book it

In comment 14542103 joeinpa said:

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I was hard pressed to find any place more hysterical about this pick than BBI when it happened.

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Wasn't sure that was gonna work but the link at the bottom is still good.

In comment 14542201 Prude said:

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In comment 14541422 Britt in VA said: Quote: is doing or has done. Let's not twist it to make people feel better for acting like complete fools, here or anywhere else. The reaction to the Jones pick was over the top foolishness, regardless of how it turns out. Jones is a top 3 QB before his rookie contract ends and he wins multiple rings under Shurmur. Book it

sign me up for that right now.

In comment 14542140 bceagle05 said:

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A team with four Lombardis added to the trophy case over the past 30 years. The same Francesa who never criticizes Jim Dolan. If Jones is good, Gettleman should brag about it every day for the rest of his life.

Well, that all depends. If the Giants start Eli this year and post a losing record, and then extend him and post ANOTHER losing record, and then finally start Jones, DG would lose some bragging rights...

In comment 14541611 ColHowPepper said:

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In comment 14541508 Canton said Quote: This photo says it all Canton, that IS quite a photo

Ditto.

Great photo Canton. Like some scene out of "The Natural."

In comment 14541569 Les in TO said:

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In comment 14541504 TrueBlue56 said: Quote: In comment 14541424 Les in TO said: Quote: But in terms of handling the media, Shurmur did flub the question last week about who the starting QB was by awkwardly referencing Mara’s quote. Just served as fodder for the meddling owner argument. He was asked a direct question about what the owner said. How else was he supposed to answer the question? Smh False. Shurmur was asked whether Eli was still the starter or if Jones has altered the plan? Mara was not referenced in the question. Maybe you should spend less time smacking your head and more time reading or listening

Direct question and answer..

Q: John (Mara) said that in a perfect world Eli would play the whole year, because that means you’re having a good season and Eli is having one. Is that the case that Eli is your guy, or does Daniel have a chance?

A: John owns the team, right? We’re on the same page. There is really not much more to say. I think I’ve been saying it all along. I just get a sense once in a while that when I answer those questions nobody believes me. Well you heard it from the owner.

Now show me where pat shurmur referenced John mara without being asked by the media.

In comment 14541470 Britt in VA said:

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In comment 14541467 Tesla said: Quote: there are absolutely fans here calling him a franchise QB. Someone started a thread last night making that claim. So what?

I mean there's no law against being a homer, I guess.

Thanks - I was talking about McShay:

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It was either Todd McShay or Max Kellerman, or probably both.

He sounded like a rambling idiot on draft day. Basically ant analyst who has an extremely strong opinion one way or another does

In comment 14542452 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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Thanks - I was talking about McShay: Quote: It was either Todd McShay or Max Kellerman, or probably both. He sounded like a rambling idiot on draft day. Basically ant analyst who has an extremely strong opinion one way or another does

I recently watched a clip from that Shannon Sharpe-Skip Bayless show. Sharpe made a point about how if a coach or a GM is wrong about a player, it can get them fired. But if an analyst is wrong about a player, no one cares. There's no accountability on that side of things.

In comment 14541508 Canton said:

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And another, actual star, beginning to fade to the foreground, is a bit disheartening. This photo says it all.. I hope Eli can have his one last hurrah this season.

+1 ... he will.

In comment 14543431 short lease said:

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In comment 14541508 Canton said: Quote: And another, actual star, beginning to fade to the foreground, is a bit disheartening. This photo says it all.. I hope Eli can have his one last hurrah this season. +1 ... he will.

Career season. SB win. HOF lock